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Topic: U.S. policy in Syria
Ɔʎɹɐx's photo
Wed 12/18/13 11:15 AM
Edited by Ɔʎɹɐx on Wed 12/18/13 11:16 AM
instead of fighting islamic terror , U.S. government plans to negotiate with them !!

U.S. may be open to Islamists joining Syrian rebel coalition




By Karen DeYoung, Published: December 13 E-mail the writer
The Obama administration is willing to consider supporting an expanded Syrian rebel coalition that would include Islamist groups, provided the groups are not allied with al-Qaeda and agree to support upcoming peace talks in Geneva, a senior U.S. official said Thursday.

In addition, the official said, the Americans would like the Islamic Front groups to return U.S. vehicles, communications gear and other non-lethal equipment they seized last weekend from warehouses at the Syria-Turkey border

washingtonpost



Ɔʎɹɐx's photo
Wed 12/18/13 11:19 AM
same historical mistake , as done in Afghanistan and Iraq before , shaking hands with beheaders

msharmony's photo
Wed 12/18/13 11:43 AM
who is a beheader? are we lumping all people together or do we know of specific individuals?


beheading is one form of capital punishment, we have our own in America too,,,


perfectly legal in many cases, ,, and not legal in others

Ɔʎɹɐx's photo
Wed 12/18/13 11:47 AM
Edited by Ɔʎɹɐx on Wed 12/18/13 11:55 AM
like beheading whole families for sectarian reasons ?
huh
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/item/15862-catholic-priest-beheaded-by-islamic-terrorists-in-syria
that was a simple example of so many ones which aren't published ... anyway i am not posting this to refer to the islamic terrorist organizations crimes which are well known to the whole world , we are talking about the suspicious attitude of the U.S. government willing to take advantage of them instead of trying to isolate them

msharmony's photo
Wed 12/18/13 11:57 AM

like beheading whole families for sectarian reasons ?
huh
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/item/15862-catholic-priest-beheaded-by-islamic-terrorists-in-syria
that was a simple example of so many ones which aren't published ... anyway i am not posting this to refer to the islamic terrorist organizations crimes which are well known to the whole world , we are talking about the suspicious attitude of the U.S. government willing to take advantage of them instead of trying to isolate them



and are THESE The individuals that would be getting support? or are there just others who may have a similar ethnic background, or religious umbrella?

Ɔʎɹɐx's photo
Wed 12/18/13 12:05 PM
Edited by Ɔʎɹɐx on Wed 12/18/13 12:05 PM
THESE individuals constitute THAT organizations i am talking about ..
and i am not talking about the religious umbrella as i am talking about the ideological one , you can't have civilized minds while they are stuck into middle ages .




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Wed 12/18/13 12:22 PM
this is usually what you get when "negotiating" with those Lunatics:"a quick way to get a haircut down to your neck."!

If you don't believe me,ask Daniel Pearl!

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Wed 12/18/13 01:53 PM

THESE individuals constitute THAT organizations i am talking about ..
and i am not talking about the religious umbrella as i am talking about the ideological one , you can't have civilized minds while they are stuck into middle ages .







what organization? islamists? you do realize how many people follow islam and how many of THOSE groups are at war with each other,,,,?


like I Asked, any information about what 'group' and their ACTUAL Ideologies,, as opposed to generalized stereotypes?

Ɔʎɹɐx's photo
Wed 12/18/13 10:33 PM


THESE individuals constitute THAT organizations i am talking about ..
and i am not talking about the religious umbrella as i am talking about the ideological one , you can't have civilized minds while they are stuck into middle ages .







what organization? islamists? you do realize how many people follow islam and how many of THOSE groups are at war with each other,,,,?


like I Asked, any information about what 'group' and their ACTUAL Ideologies,, as opposed to generalized stereotypes?

all of Islamist armed groups should be considered as terrorist groups as they have no respect for any of the civil or even human aspects of life , they only have in mind the applying of the Islamic rules all over the land without any consideration for those who don't agree with them , and once you don't agree the result is well known >>> beheading

Ɔʎɹɐx's photo
Thu 12/19/13 12:09 AM
I am not talking about or attacking Islam as a religion , i am Muslim by birth , but i can't accept religious rules to be dominated over people as a way for living .... religion should remain in temples , any attempt to expand it's influence over civil society will result in a huge mess and disorder , and worst of all , when religion becomes armed ... examples of armed religious groups are present in history and most of times are extremely dangerous .

Ɔʎɹɐx's photo
Thu 12/19/13 12:18 AM
Edited by Ɔʎɹɐx on Thu 12/19/13 12:31 AM

this is usually what you get when "negotiating" with those Lunatics:"a quick way to get a haircut down to your neck."!

If you don't believe me,ask Daniel Pearl!

Daniel Pearl , Nicholas Evan , the British soldier that was beheaded lately in London , are all examples of what could happen to all considered as opponents to those terrorists .





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Thu 12/19/13 05:40 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 12/19/13 06:00 AM


this is usually what you get when "negotiating" with those Lunatics:"a quick way to get a haircut down to your neck."!

If you don't believe me,ask Daniel Pearl!

Daniel Pearl , Nicholas Evan , the British soldier that was beheaded lately in London , are all examples of what could happen to all considered as opponents to those terrorists .



Obozo drones his opponents, even 17 year old American citizens and their friends at a BBQ in a foreign land, while at home.... so far anyway.... he has only used the IRS and NSA .....that can be proven.

A lot of suspicious deaths surround this POTUS....even SEAL Team 6 and an American Ambassador made his Kill list, and potential witnesses are placed on the "No fly" list to keep them from appearing

http://pix11.com/2013/05/16/justice-for-seal-team-6-larry-mendte/#ixzz2TT95SWBV




msharmony's photo
Thu 12/19/13 08:23 AM

I am not talking about or attacking Islam as a religion , i am Muslim by birth , but i can't accept religious rules to be dominated over people as a way for living .... religion should remain in temples , any attempt to expand it's influence over civil society will result in a huge mess and disorder , and worst of all , when religion becomes armed ... examples of armed religious groups are present in history and most of times are extremely dangerous .



rebel: a person who rises in opposition or armed resistance against an established government or ruler


so, so you think the millions of gun toting americans who advocate for 'rebellion' here in the states should be considered 'terrorists'?

and are you ignoring that our society isn't the ONLY society or the only wy a society can or should exist

we are run by a political culture which is our choice as americans, why cant other nations choose to run by the culture they wish to live in? even if its deemed religious? its not really our business

and if within their country, just like ours, there is abuse or dissention why shouldn't we support their ability to be armed and 'rebel' against the entities they feel are obstructing or threatening their way of life?

mightymoe's photo
Thu 12/19/13 08:28 AM

same historical mistake , as done in Afghanistan and Iraq before , shaking hands with beheaders


sorry to burst your bubble, but the barry admin has been giving the terrorists weapons and money for years now..

msharmony's photo
Thu 12/19/13 08:32 AM
yeah,, and many administrations before ,,, how did Hussein get his gas again?

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 12/19/13 08:37 AM


I am not talking about or attacking Islam as a religion , i am Muslim by birth , but i can't accept religious rules to be dominated over people as a way for living .... religion should remain in temples , any attempt to expand it's influence over civil society will result in a huge mess and disorder , and worst of all , when religion becomes armed ... examples of armed religious groups are present in history and most of times are extremely dangerous .



rebel: a person who rises in opposition or armed resistance against an established government or ruler


so, so you think the millions of gun toting americans who advocate for 'rebellion' here in the states should be considered 'terrorists'?

and are you ignoring that our society isn't the ONLY society or the only wy a society can or should exist

we are run by a political culture which is our choice as americans, why cant other nations choose to run by the culture they wish to live in? even if its deemed religious? its not really our business

and if within their country, just like ours, there is abuse or dissention why shouldn't we support their ability to be armed and 'rebel' against the entities they feel are obstructing or threatening their way of life?


3 words..... not our problem!

mightymoe's photo
Thu 12/19/13 08:38 AM

yeah,, and many administrations before ,,, how did Hussein get his gas again?


i'm sorry, i thought barry was president now, the present... so now you wanna bring up the past? and, since you did, when that was sold to saddam, were we at war with them? no, selling weapons to an enemy is actually treason, and who are we at war with? the same terrorists that are killing our soldiers now?

so barry wants to take our guns, give them to mexican cartels and the same terrorists we are fighting in afganistan...

totally worthy of the "peace" prize....

msharmony's photo
Thu 12/19/13 08:41 AM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 12/19/13 08:43 AM


yeah,, and many administrations before ,,, how did Hussein get his gas again?


i'm sorry, i thought barry was president now, the present... so now you wanna bring up the past? and, since you did, when that was sold to saddam, were we at war with them? no, selling weapons to an enemy is actually treason, and who are we at war with? the same terrorists that are killing our soldiers now?

so barry wants to take our guns, give them to mexican cartels and the same terrorists we are fighting in afganistan...

totally worthy of the "peace" prize....


are we at war with those who follow islam? whts your point exactly?


my point is, its part of US policy,, LONG BEFORE OBAMA to sell and trade arms that go into the hands of people who,, guess what? use them sometimes to kill innocent people

that's what guns do


US has been in the gun industry for decades,, just wanted to clear up any dilusion that this was in some exclusive way about OBama or this administration,,,


US dropped a NUCLER BOMB on innocent people
US armed Hussein
US has armed more 'rebels' than one can shake stick at,,,,,


just using the word 'islamist' or 'rebel' doesn't tell anyone anything about who is actually being armed or for what

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 12/19/13 08:45 AM



yeah,, and many administrations before ,,, how did Hussein get his gas again?


i'm sorry, i thought barry was president now, the present... so now you wanna bring up the past? and, since you did, when that was sold to saddam, were we at war with them? no, selling weapons to an enemy is actually treason, and who are we at war with? the same terrorists that are killing our soldiers now?

so barry wants to take our guns, give them to mexican cartels and the same terrorists we are fighting in afganistan...

totally worthy of the "peace" prize....


are we at war with those who follow islam? whts your point exactly?


my point is, its part of US policy,, LONG BEFORE OBAMA to sell and trade arms that go into the hands of people who,, guess what? use them sometimes to kill innocent people

that's what guns do


US has been in the gun industry for decades,, just wanted to clear up any dilusion that this was in some exclusive way about OBama or this administration,,,


US dropped a NUCLER BOMB on innocent people
US armed Hussein
US has armed more 'rebels' than one can shake stick at,,,,,


just using the word 'islamist' or 'rebel' doesn't tell anyone anything about who is actually being armed or for what


Simply proves the corruption of gov't. This POTUS however provides arms and support to our enemies WHILE we are at war with them

msharmony's photo
Thu 12/19/13 08:46 AM




yeah,, and many administrations before ,,, how did Hussein get his gas again?


i'm sorry, i thought barry was president now, the present... so now you wanna bring up the past? and, since you did, when that was sold to saddam, were we at war with them? no, selling weapons to an enemy is actually treason, and who are we at war with? the same terrorists that are killing our soldiers now?

so barry wants to take our guns, give them to mexican cartels and the same terrorists we are fighting in afganistan...

totally worthy of the "peace" prize....



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are we at war with those who follow islam? whts your point exactly?


my point is, its part of US policy,, LONG BEFORE OBAMA to sell and trade arms that go into the hands of people who,, guess what? use them sometimes to kill innocent people

that's what guns do


US has been in the gun industry for decades,, just wanted to clear up any dilusion that this was in some exclusive way about OBama or this administration,,,


US dropped a NUCLER BOMB on innocent people
US armed Hussein
US has armed more 'rebels' than one can shake stick at,,,,,


just using the word 'islamist' or 'rebel' doesn't tell anyone anything about who is actually being armed or for what


Simply proves the corruption of gov't. This POTUS however provides arms and support to our enemies WHILE we are at war with them



assuming much

the article doesn't say who is being armed,, so how do we know its someone we are 'at war' with?

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