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Is it possible that widely praised philanthropist and media renegade Jane Fonda isn’t so charitable after all?
According to documents first unveiled by The Smoking Gun, the Fonda Foundation – of which the 75-year-old actress serves as president and chairman of the board – hasn’t donated a dime to charity over the last five years, according to its filed federal tax returns. While the 2011 return is void of donations, it seems the four years prior are too. And in 2006, the group made one single $1000 donation to the Atlanta Obstetric and Gynecology Society. But the apparent lack of financial donations also indicates that the Fonda Foundation, which is based in Atlanta, could be in serious trouble with the Internal Revenue Service, which requires that private foundations make annual distributions of at least five percent of its assets. As the Smoking Gun explains, the “five percent rule” is designed to prohibit such private groups from stockpiling and investing funds while failing to make donations and fulfill its intended purpose. This means that Fonda’s organization should have dished out a bare minimum of $40,000 in 2011, yet the document filing remains glaringly blank. Raising more eyebrows is the alleged notion that the group has attempted to grow its financial value through the stock market, as evidenced by the 2011 filing, which lists 166 separate trades totaling around $2200. The filing also claims that Fonda devotes ten hours per week to working for her foundation. “This looks awful. No way around it. It looks like Jane Fonda doesn't care and she is involved in the foundation just to make herself look good,” crisis communications specialist Glenn Selig told FOX411. “Unfortunately, not donating anything makes her look bad.” A representative for Fonda did not immediately respond to a request for comment. http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/12/12/records-jane-fonda-charity-foundation-hasnt-made-donation-in-5-years/ Hopefully she will go to jail this time, but she should have been executed for treason many years ago. |
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She's a real biaaach.
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Is it possible that widely praised philanthropist and media renegade Jane Fonda isn’t so charitable after all? According to documents first unveiled by The Smoking Gun, the Fonda Foundation – of which the 75-year-old actress serves as president and chairman of the board – hasn’t donated a dime to charity over the last five years, according to its filed federal tax returns. While the 2011 return is void of donations, it seems the four years prior are too. And in 2006, the group made one single $1000 donation to the Atlanta Obstetric and Gynecology Society. But the apparent lack of financial donations also indicates that the Fonda Foundation, which is based in Atlanta, could be in serious trouble with the Internal Revenue Service, which requires that private foundations make annual distributions of at least five percent of its assets. As the Smoking Gun explains, the “five percent rule” is designed to prohibit such private groups from stockpiling and investing funds while failing to make donations and fulfill its intended purpose. This means that Fonda’s organization should have dished out a bare minimum of $40,000 in 2011, yet the document filing remains glaringly blank. Raising more eyebrows is the alleged notion that the group has attempted to grow its financial value through the stock market, as evidenced by the 2011 filing, which lists 166 separate trades totaling around $2200. The filing also claims that Fonda devotes ten hours per week to working for her foundation. “This looks awful. No way around it. It looks like Jane Fonda doesn't care and she is involved in the foundation just to make herself look good,” crisis communications specialist Glenn Selig told FOX411. “Unfortunately, not donating anything makes her look bad.” A representative for Fonda did not immediately respond to a request for comment. http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/12/12/records-jane-fonda-charity-foundation-hasnt-made-donation-in-5-years/ Hopefully she will go to jail this time, but she should have been executed for treason many years ago. |
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America is comfortable with freedom of speech though some dont grasp the idea that having an opinion is in itself not heretical...
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"I'm not fonda Hanoi Jane".... Nam vets will remember that one, and this traitorous biotch! How can you forget the biotch who turns the letters home palmed to her by the prisoners she greeted over to the Cong instead of delivering them to the prisoners families. Her act gave the Cong more info on the prisoners than they had been able to obtain thru torture up to that point. Many good men died as a result of this traitors betrayal! I wish there was a Hell so this biotch could burn in it! |
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"I'm not fonda Hanoi Jane".... Nam vets will remember that one, and this traitorous biotch! How can you forget the biotch who turns the letters home palmed to her by the prisoners she greeted over to the Cong instead of delivering them to the prisoners families. Her act gave the Cong more info on the prisoners than they had been able to obtain thru torture up to that point. Many good men died as a result of this traitors betrayal! I wish there was a Hell so this biotch could burn in it! You forgot to mention the tasteless photos she posed for with those big weapons (go figure a peace activist posing on and with weapons) and helping with propaganda and rising the morale of the enemy we were fighting. |
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"I'm not fonda Hanoi Jane".... Nam vets will remember that one, and this traitorous biotch! How can you forget the biotch who turns the letters home palmed to her by the prisoners she greeted over to the Cong instead of delivering them to the prisoners families. Her act gave the Cong more info on the prisoners than they had been able to obtain thru torture up to that point. Many good men died as a result of this traitors betrayal! I wish there was a Hell so this biotch could burn in it! The section in bold never happened. Even the vets who supposedly gave her these notes say it never happened. ............................ [The POWs] had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN [Social Security number] on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. [Larry] Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. But Carrigan does not corroborate the letter's claims. David Emery of the Urban Legends and Folklore website at about.com has written: "It's a figment of somebody's imagination," says Ret. Col. Larry Carrigan, whom I reached by phone at his home in Arizona. Carrigan, who was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967, says he has no idea why this story was attributed to him. "I never met Jane Fonda," he told me. It goes without saying he never handed her a secret message. The quotes attributed to Carrigan in Emery's account refuting the rumor have been published in several newspapers, including the September 19, 2000, edition of the Oregonian and the May 25, 2001, edition of the New York Daily News. Emery also debunked another baseless attack on Fonda from the chain letter -- that another former POW, Air Force pilot Jerry Driscoll, spat on Fonda in Vietnam and was severely beaten for his actions. As Emery noted, Driscoll called the accusation "the product of a very vivid imagination." http://mediamatters.org/research/2005/04/21/fox-news-military-analyst-hunt-revived-baseless/133083 http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp However, the allegation that she abused American POW’s is not true. It has simply been repeated over and over again, without proof, and duplicated on a number of websites. Respected online resources such as “Snopes”, “Truth Miners,” and “Urban Legends” have all cited key persons in the infamous email as having refuted its claims.[5] One man who was supposed to have encountered Jane Fonda, one Colonel Larry Carrigan, has denied any claim that he ever met her. According to the email she visited Hanoi in 1968. Her visit actually took place in 1972. Chris Appy, a historian who has written about Vietnam, told HNN he once asked POW Porter Halyburton about the claims made against Fonda. Halyburton told him that the POW's had tried to debunk them even though they regarded Fonda as an unsympathetic figure http://hnn.us/article/8920#sthash.ejZRVIwq.dpuf Regardless she should still have stood trial for treason. |
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Edited by
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Sat 12/14/13 06:14 AM
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"I'm not fonda Hanoi Jane".... Nam vets will remember that one, and this traitorous biotch! How can you forget the biotch who turns the letters home palmed to her by the prisoners she greeted over to the Cong instead of delivering them to the prisoners families. Her act gave the Cong more info on the prisoners than they had been able to obtain thru torture up to that point. Many good men died as a result of this traitors betrayal! I wish there was a Hell so this biotch could burn in it! The section in bold never happened. Even the vets who supposedly gave her these notes say it never happened. ............................ [The POWs] had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN [Social Security number] on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. [Larry] Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. But Carrigan does not corroborate the letter's claims. David Emery of the Urban Legends and Folklore website at about.com has written: "It's a figment of somebody's imagination," says Ret. Col. Larry Carrigan, whom I reached by phone at his home in Arizona. Carrigan, who was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967, says he has no idea why this story was attributed to him. "I never met Jane Fonda," he told me. It goes without saying he never handed her a secret message. The quotes attributed to Carrigan in Emery's account refuting the rumor have been published in several newspapers, including the September 19, 2000, edition of the Oregonian and the May 25, 2001, edition of the New York Daily News. Emery also debunked another baseless attack on Fonda from the chain letter -- that another former POW, Air Force pilot Jerry Driscoll, spat on Fonda in Vietnam and was severely beaten for his actions. As Emery noted, Driscoll called the accusation "the product of a very vivid imagination." http://mediamatters.org/research/2005/04/21/fox-news-military-analyst-hunt-revived-baseless/133083 http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp However, the allegation that she abused American POW’s is not true. It has simply been repeated over and over again, without proof, and duplicated on a number of websites. Respected online resources such as “Snopes”, “Truth Miners,” and “Urban Legends” have all cited key persons in the infamous email as having refuted its claims.[5] One man who was supposed to have encountered Jane Fonda, one Colonel Larry Carrigan, has denied any claim that he ever met her. According to the email she visited Hanoi in 1968. Her visit actually took place in 1972. Chris Appy, a historian who has written about Vietnam, told HNN he once asked POW Porter Halyburton about the claims made against Fonda. Halyburton told him that the POW's had tried to debunk them even though they regarded Fonda as an unsympathetic figure http://hnn.us/article/8920#sthash.ejZRVIwq.dpuf Regardless she should still have stood trial for treason. I was in Vietnam at this time. We heard the broadcasts of this whore, the anti-American statements, the treasonous vile contempt of all of us. We may not have wanted to be there, maybe we even questioned why, but we were, we fought, we bled, we died, while Hanoi Jane cursed and mocked us for serving. We represented our country, but we fought for those beside us, not the principles that put us there. There were many who swore they would hunt down and kill this biotch upon returning home. While many, like me, upon returning home, were faced with continuing horrors of recall (PTSD), sleepless nights, drug addictions, personality disorders and sickness (AO), that quest was minimized under the bigger one of trying to forget, survive, and simply cope in a world that now spit on us, had turned its back on us, but we still called home and must live in. So while we may have lived under a lie, fought under a lie, believed a lie, the realities of Hanoi Janes actions, her radio broadcasts, her pictures with and praise of the enemy we were sent to fight were not a lie, nor was the reality of our nation turned against us in our service to it, and this whore can never be forgiven for those actions, and will always be remembered for them as the traitorous biotch she is , was and will always be in our eyes. My contempt every time my nation seeks to praise this traitor for the beauty and health her money has bought her, make a senator and presidential hopeful of yet another traitor (John McShame), the continuing slap in the face of the war veterans (like myself) of that era is a shame on the nation, and a testimony to the lack of regard most carry for the price paid by others for their freedom to do so. May she and McShame be forever cursed for their actions, and any who praise them be blessed with the same fate, for our nation has failed us who served her, not to exact justice, but rather to praise and honor the likes of traitors like these. |
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"I'm not fonda Hanoi Jane".... Nam vets will remember that one, and this traitorous biotch! How can you forget the biotch who turns the letters home palmed to her by the prisoners she greeted over to the Cong instead of delivering them to the prisoners families. Her act gave the Cong more info on the prisoners than they had been able to obtain thru torture up to that point. Many good men died as a result of this traitors betrayal! I wish there was a Hell so this biotch could burn in it! The section in bold never happened. Even the vets who supposedly gave her these notes say it never happened. ............................ [The POWs] had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN [Social Security number] on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. [Larry] Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. But Carrigan does not corroborate the letter's claims. David Emery of the Urban Legends and Folklore website at about.com has written: "It's a figment of somebody's imagination," says Ret. Col. Larry Carrigan, whom I reached by phone at his home in Arizona. Carrigan, who was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967, says he has no idea why this story was attributed to him. "I never met Jane Fonda," he told me. It goes without saying he never handed her a secret message. The quotes attributed to Carrigan in Emery's account refuting the rumor have been published in several newspapers, including the September 19, 2000, edition of the Oregonian and the May 25, 2001, edition of the New York Daily News. Emery also debunked another baseless attack on Fonda from the chain letter -- that another former POW, Air Force pilot Jerry Driscoll, spat on Fonda in Vietnam and was severely beaten for his actions. As Emery noted, Driscoll called the accusation "the product of a very vivid imagination." http://mediamatters.org/research/2005/04/21/fox-news-military-analyst-hunt-revived-baseless/133083 http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp However, the allegation that she abused American POW’s is not true. It has simply been repeated over and over again, without proof, and duplicated on a number of websites. Respected online resources such as “Snopes”, “Truth Miners,” and “Urban Legends” have all cited key persons in the infamous email as having refuted its claims.[5] One man who was supposed to have encountered Jane Fonda, one Colonel Larry Carrigan, has denied any claim that he ever met her. According to the email she visited Hanoi in 1968. Her visit actually took place in 1972. Chris Appy, a historian who has written about Vietnam, told HNN he once asked POW Porter Halyburton about the claims made against Fonda. Halyburton told him that the POW's had tried to debunk them even though they regarded Fonda as an unsympathetic figure http://hnn.us/article/8920#sthash.ejZRVIwq.dpuf Regardless she should still have stood trial for treason. I was in Vietnam at this time. We heard the broadcasts of this whore, the anti-American statements, the treasonous vile contempt of all of us. We may not have wanted to be there, maybe we even questioned why, but we were, we fought, we bled, we died, while Hanoi Jane cursed and mocked us for serving. We represented our country, but we fought for those beside us, not the principles that put us there. There were many who swore they would hunt down and kill this biotch upon returning home. While many, like me, upon returning home, were faced with continuing horrors of recall (PTSD), sleepless nights, drug addictions, personality disorders and sickness (AO), that quest was minimized under the bigger one of trying to forget, survive, and simply cope in a world that now spit on us, had turned its back on us, but we still called home and must live in. So while we may have lived under a lie, fought under a lie, believed a lie, the realities of Hanoi Janes actions, her radio broadcasts, her pictures with and praise of the enemy we were sent to fight were not a lie, nor was the reality of our nation turned against us in our service to it, and this whore can never be forgiven for those actions, and will always be remembered for them as the traitorous biotch she is , was and will always be in our eyes. My contempt every time my nation seeks to praise this traitor for the beauty and health her money has bought her, make a senator and presidential hopeful of yet another traitor (John McShame), the continuing slap in the face of the war veterans (like myself) of that era is a shame on the nation, and a testimony to the lack of regard most carry for the price paid by others for their freedom to do so. May she and McShame be forever cursed for their actions, and any who praise them be blessed with the same fate, for our nation has failed us who served her, not to exact justice, but rather to praise and honor the likes of traitors like these. You forgot that Horsefaced Secretary Of State! |
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"I'm not fonda Hanoi Jane".... Nam vets will remember that one, and this traitorous biotch! How can you forget the biotch who turns the letters home palmed to her by the prisoners she greeted over to the Cong instead of delivering them to the prisoners families. Her act gave the Cong more info on the prisoners than they had been able to obtain thru torture up to that point. Many good men died as a result of this traitors betrayal! I wish there was a Hell so this biotch could burn in it! The section in bold never happened. Even the vets who supposedly gave her these notes say it never happened. ............................ [The POWs] had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN [Social Security number] on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. [Larry] Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. But Carrigan does not corroborate the letter's claims. David Emery of the Urban Legends and Folklore website at about.com has written: "It's a figment of somebody's imagination," says Ret. Col. Larry Carrigan, whom I reached by phone at his home in Arizona. Carrigan, who was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967, says he has no idea why this story was attributed to him. "I never met Jane Fonda," he told me. It goes without saying he never handed her a secret message. The quotes attributed to Carrigan in Emery's account refuting the rumor have been published in several newspapers, including the September 19, 2000, edition of the Oregonian and the May 25, 2001, edition of the New York Daily News. Emery also debunked another baseless attack on Fonda from the chain letter -- that another former POW, Air Force pilot Jerry Driscoll, spat on Fonda in Vietnam and was severely beaten for his actions. As Emery noted, Driscoll called the accusation "the product of a very vivid imagination." http://mediamatters.org/research/2005/04/21/fox-news-military-analyst-hunt-revived-baseless/133083 http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp However, the allegation that she abused American POW’s is not true. It has simply been repeated over and over again, without proof, and duplicated on a number of websites. Respected online resources such as “Snopes”, “Truth Miners,” and “Urban Legends” have all cited key persons in the infamous email as having refuted its claims.[5] One man who was supposed to have encountered Jane Fonda, one Colonel Larry Carrigan, has denied any claim that he ever met her. According to the email she visited Hanoi in 1968. Her visit actually took place in 1972. Chris Appy, a historian who has written about Vietnam, told HNN he once asked POW Porter Halyburton about the claims made against Fonda. Halyburton told him that the POW's had tried to debunk them even though they regarded Fonda as an unsympathetic figure http://hnn.us/article/8920#sthash.ejZRVIwq.dpuf Regardless she should still have stood trial for treason. I was in Vietnam at this time. We heard the broadcasts of this whore, the anti-American statements, the treasonous vile contempt of all of us. We may not have wanted to be there, maybe we even questioned why, but we were, we fought, we bled, we died, while Hanoi Jane cursed and mocked us for serving. We represented our country, but we fought for those beside us, not the principles that put us there. There were many who swore they would hunt down and kill this biotch upon returning home. While many, like me, upon returning home, were faced with continuing horrors of recall (PTSD), sleepless nights, drug addictions, personality disorders and sickness (AO), that quest was minimized under the bigger one of trying to forget, survive, and simply cope in a world that now spit on us, had turned its back on us, but we still called home and must live in. So while we may have lived under a lie, fought under a lie, believed a lie, the realities of Hanoi Janes actions, her radio broadcasts, her pictures with and praise of the enemy we were sent to fight were not a lie, nor was the reality of our nation turned against us in our service to it, and this whore can never be forgiven for those actions, and will always be remembered for them as the traitorous biotch she is , was and will always be in our eyes. My contempt every time my nation seeks to praise this traitor for the beauty and health her money has bought her, make a senator and presidential hopeful of yet another traitor (John McShame), the continuing slap in the face of the war veterans (like myself) of that era is a shame on the nation, and a testimony to the lack of regard most carry for the price paid by others for their freedom to do so. May she and McShame be forever cursed for their actions, and any who praise them be blessed with the same fate, for our nation has failed us who served her, not to exact justice, but rather to praise and honor the likes of traitors like these. You forgot that Horsefaced Secretary Of State! Kerry was simply a liar, not so much a traitor (unlike McShame who spilled his guts for an easy ride in confinement), glorified falsely to promote his political career.... as with all the Bushes' and their relatives. That's not to say his actions and politics even to date aren't treasonous to some extent A Manchurian candidate so to speak |
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The following was submitted in the U.S. Congress House Committee on Internal Security, Travel to Hostile Areas. [HR16742, 19-25 September 1972, page 761] [Broadcast] This is Jane Fonda. During my two week visit in the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, I've had the opportunity to visit a great many places and speak to a large number of people from all walks of life- workers, peasants, students, artists and dancers, historians, journalists, film actresses, soldiers, militia girls, members of the women's union, writers. I visited the (Dam Xuac) agricultural coop, where the silk worms are also raised and thread is made. I visited a textile factory, a kindergarten in Hanoi. The beautiful Temple of Literature was where I saw traditional dances and heard songs of resistance. I also saw unforgettable ballet about the guerrillas training bees in the south to attack enemy soldiers. The bees were danced by women, and they did their job well. In the shadow of the Temple of Literature I saw Vietnamese actors and actresses perform the second act of Arthur Miller's play All My Sons, and this was very moving to me- the fact that artists here are translating and performing American plays while US imperialists are bombing their country. I cherish the memory of the blushing militia girls on the roof of their factory, encouraging one of their sisters as she sang a song praising the blue sky of Vietnam- these women, who are so gentle and poetic, whose voices are so beautiful, but who, when American planes are bombing their city, become such good fighters. I cherish the way a farmer evacuated from Hanoi, without hesitation, offered me, an American, their best individual bomb shelter while US bombs fell near by. The daughter and I, in fact, shared the shelter wrapped in each others arms, cheek against cheek. It was on the road back from Nam Dinh, where I had witnessed the systematic destruction of civilian targets- schools, hospitals, pagodas, the factories, houses, and the dike system. As I left the United States two weeks ago, Nixon was again telling the American people that he was winding down the war, but in the rubble- strewn streets of Nam Dinh, his words echoed with sinister (words indistinct) of a true killer. And like the young Vietnamese woman I held in my arms clinging to me tightly- and I pressed my cheek against hers- I thought, this is a war against Vietnam perhaps, but the tragedy is America's. One thing that I have learned beyond a shadow of a doubt since I've been in this country is that Nixon will never be able to break the spirit of these people; he'll never be able to turn Vietnam, north and south, into a neo- colony of the United States by bombing, by invading, by attacking in any way. One has only to go into the countryside and listen to the peasants describe the lives they led before the revolution to understand why every bomb that is dropped only strengthens their determination to resist. I've spoken to many peasants who talked about the days when their parents had to sell themselves to landlords as virtually slaves, when there were very few schools and much illiteracy, inadequate medical care, when they were not masters of their own lives. But now, despite the bombs, despite the crimes being created- being committed against them by Richard Nixon, these people own their own land, build their own schools- the children learning, literacy- illiteracy is being wiped out, there is no more prostitution as there was during the time when this was a French colony. In other words, the people have taken power into their own hands, and they are controlling their own lives. And after 4,000 years of struggling against nature and foreign invaders- and the last 25 years, prior to the revolution, of struggling against French colonialism- I don't think that the people of Vietnam are about to compromise in any way, shape or form about the freedom and independence of their country, and I think Richard Nixon would do well to read Vietnamese history, particularly their poetry, and particularly the poetry written by Ho Chi Minh. |
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there was never any intention of forming a neo colony whatever the heck that is. we were fighting to halt the red chinese and the spread of totalitarianism....whether misguided or not. There is a free Vietnam today. In the process the horrors and actions of Pol pot were uncovered and stopped in Cambodia also. So our presence in the region brought the concept and actuality of freedom from tyranny. It was not a total loss. Why anyone would have supported those totalitarian regimes is beyond me.
We made a very firm statement that SEAN nations were to be free & independent - a commitment I hope the US will always stand by. and also - thank you for your service. |
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there was never any intention of forming a neo colony whatever the heck that is. we were fighting to halt the red chinese and the spread of totalitarianism....whether misguided or not. There is a free Vietnam today. In the process the horrors and actions of Pol pot were uncovered and stopped in Cambodia also. So our presence in the region brought the concept and actuality of freedom from tyranny. It was not a total loss. Why anyone would have supported those totalitarian regimes is beyond me. We made a very firm statement that SEAN nations were to be free & independent - a commitment I hope the US will always stand by. and also - thank you for your service. I thank you for your recognition, but your beliefs are misguided I'm afraid. Believe what you wish, but I think much further reading would cause a second look at the reality of the Vietnam agenda....the traitors comments aside She may have been somewhat correct in some of her statements, but her choice of venue to air them and the agenda of her choice was a treasonous act indeed Let me clarify...... Most of the actions our soldiers fight and die for are to clean up the messes made by depts of our own gov't. The enemy of our enemy is our friend, until they are our enemy, after we have armed, trained and funded them. |
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"I'm not fonda Hanoi Jane".... Nam vets will remember that one, and this traitorous biotch! How can you forget the biotch who turns the letters home palmed to her by the prisoners she greeted over to the Cong instead of delivering them to the prisoners families. Her act gave the Cong more info on the prisoners than they had been able to obtain thru torture up to that point. Many good men died as a result of this traitors betrayal! I wish there was a Hell so this biotch could burn in it! The section in bold never happened. Even the vets who supposedly gave her these notes say it never happened. ............................ [The POWs] had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN [Social Security number] on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. [Larry] Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. But Carrigan does not corroborate the letter's claims. David Emery of the Urban Legends and Folklore website at about.com has written: "It's a figment of somebody's imagination," says Ret. Col. Larry Carrigan, whom I reached by phone at his home in Arizona. Carrigan, who was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967, says he has no idea why this story was attributed to him. "I never met Jane Fonda," he told me. It goes without saying he never handed her a secret message. The quotes attributed to Carrigan in Emery's account refuting the rumor have been published in several newspapers, including the September 19, 2000, edition of the Oregonian and the May 25, 2001, edition of the New York Daily News. Emery also debunked another baseless attack on Fonda from the chain letter -- that another former POW, Air Force pilot Jerry Driscoll, spat on Fonda in Vietnam and was severely beaten for his actions. As Emery noted, Driscoll called the accusation "the product of a very vivid imagination." http://mediamatters.org/research/2005/04/21/fox-news-military-analyst-hunt-revived-baseless/133083 http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp However, the allegation that she abused American POW’s is not true. It has simply been repeated over and over again, without proof, and duplicated on a number of websites. Respected online resources such as “Snopes”, “Truth Miners,” and “Urban Legends” have all cited key persons in the infamous email as having refuted its claims.[5] One man who was supposed to have encountered Jane Fonda, one Colonel Larry Carrigan, has denied any claim that he ever met her. According to the email she visited Hanoi in 1968. Her visit actually took place in 1972. Chris Appy, a historian who has written about Vietnam, told HNN he once asked POW Porter Halyburton about the claims made against Fonda. Halyburton told him that the POW's had tried to debunk them even though they regarded Fonda as an unsympathetic figure http://hnn.us/article/8920#sthash.ejZRVIwq.dpuf Regardless she should still have stood trial for treason. I was in Vietnam at this time. We heard the broadcasts of this whore, the anti-American statements, the treasonous vile contempt of all of us. We may not have wanted to be there, maybe we even questioned why, but we were, we fought, we bled, we died, while Hanoi Jane cursed and mocked us for serving. We represented our country, but we fought for those beside us, not the principles that put us there. There were many who swore they would hunt down and kill this biotch upon returning home. While many, like me, upon returning home, were faced with continuing horrors of recall (PTSD), sleepless nights, drug addictions, personality disorders and sickness (AO), that quest was minimized under the bigger one of trying to forget, survive, and simply cope in a world that now spit on us, had turned its back on us, but we still called home and must live in. So while we may have lived under a lie, fought under a lie, believed a lie, the realities of Hanoi Janes actions, her radio broadcasts, her pictures with and praise of the enemy we were sent to fight were not a lie, nor was the reality of our nation turned against us in our service to it, and this whore can never be forgiven for those actions, and will always be remembered for them as the traitorous biotch she is , was and will always be in our eyes. My contempt every time my nation seeks to praise this traitor for the beauty and health her money has bought her, make a senator and presidential hopeful of yet another traitor (John McShame), the continuing slap in the face of the war veterans (like myself) of that era is a shame on the nation, and a testimony to the lack of regard most carry for the price paid by others for their freedom to do so. May she and McShame be forever cursed for their actions, and any who praise them be blessed with the same fate, for our nation has failed us who served her, not to exact justice, but rather to praise and honor the likes of traitors like these. I honestly don't understand why a vet didn't whack her and claim PTSD. |
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I wish I could be around to see how many of her complainers are going to be making charitable donations in when they are 75 let alone PAYING taxes,,,,anymore miley syndrome alive and well |
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Ms Fonda's attourney explained how the Foundation had overpaid its contributions in 2004 meaning there was nothing to pay until the 2010/11 tax year.
The Fonda Foundation’s returns show that most of its assets were provided years ago by the performer herself with more than $320,000 coming from a Connecticut firm that has booked speaking engagements for the two-time Academy Award winner. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2522838/Jane-Fonda-hits-claims-charitable-foundation-didnt-donate-dime-years.html#ixzz2nVSlLSxN Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook The two time Oscar winner also runs a $4 million dollar charity in Atlanta called GCAPP– Georgia Campaign for Adolescent Power and Potential. Last year GCAPP gave more than $4.2 million to running their Second Chance Homes for young mothers and their children. The charity provides education and assistance to teenagers about pregnancy and helps young women throughout Georgia. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2522838/Jane-Fonda-hits-claims-charitable-foundation-didnt-donate-dime-years.html#ixzz2nVSvHyJM Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook |
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sigh I wish I could be around to see how many of her complainers are going to be making charitable donations in when they are 75 let alone PAYING taxes,,,,anymore miley syndrome alive and well Figures you would support a traitor, but then you support Obozo, so it stands to reason. |
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"I'm not fonda Hanoi Jane".... Nam vets will remember that one, and this traitorous biotch! How can you forget the biotch who turns the letters home palmed to her by the prisoners she greeted over to the Cong instead of delivering them to the prisoners families. Her act gave the Cong more info on the prisoners than they had been able to obtain thru torture up to that point. Many good men died as a result of this traitors betrayal! I wish there was a Hell so this biotch could burn in it! The section in bold never happened. Even the vets who supposedly gave her these notes say it never happened. ............................ [The POWs] had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN [Social Security number] on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. [Larry] Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. But Carrigan does not corroborate the letter's claims. David Emery of the Urban Legends and Folklore website at about.com has written: "It's a figment of somebody's imagination," says Ret. Col. Larry Carrigan, whom I reached by phone at his home in Arizona. Carrigan, who was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967, says he has no idea why this story was attributed to him. "I never met Jane Fonda," he told me. It goes without saying he never handed her a secret message. The quotes attributed to Carrigan in Emery's account refuting the rumor have been published in several newspapers, including the September 19, 2000, edition of the Oregonian and the May 25, 2001, edition of the New York Daily News. Emery also debunked another baseless attack on Fonda from the chain letter -- that another former POW, Air Force pilot Jerry Driscoll, spat on Fonda in Vietnam and was severely beaten for his actions. As Emery noted, Driscoll called the accusation "the product of a very vivid imagination." http://mediamatters.org/research/2005/04/21/fox-news-military-analyst-hunt-revived-baseless/133083 http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp However, the allegation that she abused American POW’s is not true. It has simply been repeated over and over again, without proof, and duplicated on a number of websites. Respected online resources such as “Snopes”, “Truth Miners,” and “Urban Legends” have all cited key persons in the infamous email as having refuted its claims.[5] One man who was supposed to have encountered Jane Fonda, one Colonel Larry Carrigan, has denied any claim that he ever met her. According to the email she visited Hanoi in 1968. Her visit actually took place in 1972. Chris Appy, a historian who has written about Vietnam, told HNN he once asked POW Porter Halyburton about the claims made against Fonda. Halyburton told him that the POW's had tried to debunk them even though they regarded Fonda as an unsympathetic figure http://hnn.us/article/8920#sthash.ejZRVIwq.dpuf Regardless she should still have stood trial for treason. Just because this guy didn't doesn't mean others did and it was proven they did. |
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"I'm not fonda Hanoi Jane".... Nam vets will remember that one, and this traitorous biotch! How can you forget the biotch who turns the letters home palmed to her by the prisoners she greeted over to the Cong instead of delivering them to the prisoners families. Her act gave the Cong more info on the prisoners than they had been able to obtain thru torture up to that point. Many good men died as a result of this traitors betrayal! I wish there was a Hell so this biotch could burn in it! The section in bold never happened. Even the vets who supposedly gave her these notes say it never happened. ............................ [The POWs] had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN [Social Security number] on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. [Larry] Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. But Carrigan does not corroborate the letter's claims. David Emery of the Urban Legends and Folklore website at about.com has written: "It's a figment of somebody's imagination," says Ret. Col. Larry Carrigan, whom I reached by phone at his home in Arizona. Carrigan, who was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967, says he has no idea why this story was attributed to him. "I never met Jane Fonda," he told me. It goes without saying he never handed her a secret message. The quotes attributed to Carrigan in Emery's account refuting the rumor have been published in several newspapers, including the September 19, 2000, edition of the Oregonian and the May 25, 2001, edition of the New York Daily News. Emery also debunked another baseless attack on Fonda from the chain letter -- that another former POW, Air Force pilot Jerry Driscoll, spat on Fonda in Vietnam and was severely beaten for his actions. As Emery noted, Driscoll called the accusation "the product of a very vivid imagination." http://mediamatters.org/research/2005/04/21/fox-news-military-analyst-hunt-revived-baseless/133083 http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp However, the allegation that she abused American POW’s is not true. It has simply been repeated over and over again, without proof, and duplicated on a number of websites. Respected online resources such as “Snopes”, “Truth Miners,” and “Urban Legends” have all cited key persons in the infamous email as having refuted its claims.[5] One man who was supposed to have encountered Jane Fonda, one Colonel Larry Carrigan, has denied any claim that he ever met her. According to the email she visited Hanoi in 1968. Her visit actually took place in 1972. Chris Appy, a historian who has written about Vietnam, told HNN he once asked POW Porter Halyburton about the claims made against Fonda. Halyburton told him that the POW's had tried to debunk them even though they regarded Fonda as an unsympathetic figure http://hnn.us/article/8920#sthash.ejZRVIwq.dpuf Regardless she should still have stood trial for treason. I was in Vietnam at this time. We heard the broadcasts of this whore, the anti-American statements, the treasonous vile contempt of all of us. We may not have wanted to be there, maybe we even questioned why, but we were, we fought, we bled, we died, while Hanoi Jane cursed and mocked us for serving. We represented our country, but we fought for those beside us, not the principles that put us there. There were many who swore they would hunt down and kill this biotch upon returning home. While many, like me, upon returning home, were faced with continuing horrors of recall (PTSD), sleepless nights, drug addictions, personality disorders and sickness (AO), that quest was minimized under the bigger one of trying to forget, survive, and simply cope in a world that now spit on us, had turned its back on us, but we still called home and must live in. So while we may have lived under a lie, fought under a lie, believed a lie, the realities of Hanoi Janes actions, her radio broadcasts, her pictures with and praise of the enemy we were sent to fight were not a lie, nor was the reality of our nation turned against us in our service to it, and this whore can never be forgiven for those actions, and will always be remembered for them as the traitorous biotch she is , was and will always be in our eyes. My contempt every time my nation seeks to praise this traitor for the beauty and health her money has bought her, make a senator and presidential hopeful of yet another traitor (John McShame), the continuing slap in the face of the war veterans (like myself) of that era is a shame on the nation, and a testimony to the lack of regard most carry for the price paid by others for their freedom to do so. May she and McShame be forever cursed for their actions, and any who praise them be blessed with the same fate, for our nation has failed us who served her, not to exact justice, but rather to praise and honor the likes of traitors like these. You forgot that Horsefaced Secretary Of State! Kerry was simply a liar, not so much a traitor (unlike McShame who spilled his guts for an easy ride in confinement), glorified falsely to promote his political career.... as with all the Bushes' and their relatives. That's not to say his actions and politics even to date aren't treasonous to some extent A Manchurian candidate so to speak This guy very well maybe a liar, Kerry is a proven liar ( a purple heart for a stubbed toe) LOL BUT George H.W. Bush is a highly decorated War Hero. He was assigned to Torpedo Squadron (VT-51) in September 1943. The following year, his squadron was based on the USS San Jacinto as a member of Air Group 51, where his lanky physique earned him the nickname "Skin". During this time, the task force was victorious in one of the largest air battles of World War II: the Battle of the Philippine Sea. After Bush's promotion to Lieutenant (junior grade) on August 1, 1944, the San Jacinto commenced operations against the Japanese in the Bonin Islands. Bush piloted one of four Grumman TBM Avenger aircraft from VT-51 that attacked the Japanese installations on Chichijima. His crew for the mission, which occurred on September 2, 1944, included Radioman Second Class John Delaney and Lieutenant Junior Grade William White. During their attack, the Avengers encountered intense anti-aircraft fire; Bush's aircraft was hit by flak and his engine caught on fire. Despite his plane being on fire, Bush completed his attack and released bombs over his target, scoring several damaging hits. With his engine ablaze, Bush flew several miles from the island, where he and one other crew member on the TBM Avenger bailed out of the aircraft; the other man's parachute did not open. It has not been determined which man bailed out with Bush as both Delaney and White were killed as a result of the battle. Bush waited for four hours in an inflated raft, while several fighters circled protectively overhead until he was rescued by the lifeguard submarine USS Finback. For the next month he remained on the Finback, and participated in the rescue of other pilots. Bush subsequently returned to San Jacinto in November 1944 and participated in operations in the Philippines until his squadron was replaced and sent home to the United States. Through 1944, he flew 58 combat missions for which he received the Distinguished Flying Cross, three Air Medals, and the Presidential Unit Citation awarded to San Jacinto. Because of his valuable combat experience, Bush was reassigned to Norfolk Navy Base and put in a training wing for new torpedo pilots. He was later assigned as a naval aviator in a new torpedo squadron, VT-153, based at Naval Air Station Grosse Ile, Michigan. Upon the Japanese surrender in 1945, Bush was honorably discharged in September of that year. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_HW_Bush President George W. Bush is a decorated military pilot as well, just one who never saw combat. Nothing forged or embellished in either of their records my friend. |
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