Topic: Racist DHS employee fired
msharmony's photo
Tue 12/17/13 12:50 AM






the sight doesn't 'advocate' race war actually

it only professing to ' prepare to defend our interests and those of our future generations,'

much like gun advocates or nationalists, or constitutionalists do,,,


however, because it focuses on a RACE of people (worldwide) instead of a NATION Of people , it is in conflict with his role regarding americans of all races





Too many racists around.




agreed, with one correction

I don't care if someone addresses the socio historic realities of 'race',,, or cares to correct or attempt to seek reperation for past socio historic racial injustices


its just HATEFUL And ILLOGICAL and IMBALANCED racists that are becoming too abundant
you usually talk smart, i'm not sure what happened to ya here...



its complex

but basically, I Think people have a tendency to label anything that mentions or deals with the social realities of the construct of race and its historical and current impact on peoples lives

as 'racist'


I don't think merely acknowledging, mentioning, and looking at how nations or RACES of people within nations have impacted and been impacted should be discouraged

I do think being HATEFUL towards a whole race, or promoting VIOLENCE against a whole race, or belittling and berating a whole race of people should be discouraged


so, yes, in the context of how the term 'racist' is now so broadly used,, I do think there are some 'racist' things that need to continue for change to happen

and other 'racist' things that need to be discouraged,,,

ok, so if i open a website that promotes and advocates a race war with blacks, i wouldn't be racist... thanks for clearing that up for me...



have you went to the website?

As I have said, what I read there didn't 'advocate' war, anymore than gun enthusiasts who believe good people should have guns 'advocate' violence

its advocating to prepare to DEFEND Against violence

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 12/17/13 06:16 AM
Edited by Dodo_David on Tue 12/17/13 06:19 AM



racism is only wrong if it is with an intent to oppress or harm


To a non-racist, all racism is harmful. Thus, all racism is wrong.



I don't know any non racists,,,


Then you must be limited in the number of people that you know. :tongue:

I keep thinking of the New Testament verse Titus 1:15.

msharmony's photo
Tue 12/17/13 07:53 AM
I know plenty of people,

their minds , if they live in America, all work the same,,,, when it comes to race


the mind very NATURALLY categorizes things according to the environment so we can more easily access it

RACE is a very significant part of the environment or America, so, between entertainment, news, personal experiences and a number of other experiences,, the mind categorizes 'RACE' the same way

I don't really care about that, there is

nothing 'unpure' about it, its just acknowledging our US history,,our past, and its impact on the present as well as potential impact on the future,


which RACE Is big part of,,,


when I CARE, is when the RACE is belittled, oppressed, or otherwise attacked, or when individuals are prejudged on their RACE ALONE,,,as opposed to their words and behaviors

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 12/17/13 08:20 AM

I don't know any non racists,,,


msharmony, if your above-quoted statement is true, then every Democrat that you know is a racist. laugh

msharmony's photo
Tue 12/17/13 08:38 AM


I don't know any non racists,,,


msharmony, if your above-quoted statement is true, then every Democrat that you know is a racist. laugh


indeed, every American I have ever known or met is racist

but I see racism in a broader spectrum than most,,,so not all of these people have been bad people or hateful or hurtful people, and many are actually WONDERFUL people, to boot

mightymoe's photo
Tue 12/17/13 09:04 AM







the sight doesn't 'advocate' race war actually

it only professing to ' prepare to defend our interests and those of our future generations,'

much like gun advocates or nationalists, or constitutionalists do,,,


however, because it focuses on a RACE of people (worldwide) instead of a NATION Of people , it is in conflict with his role regarding americans of all races





Too many racists around.




agreed, with one correction

I don't care if someone addresses the socio historic realities of 'race',,, or cares to correct or attempt to seek reperation for past socio historic racial injustices


its just HATEFUL And ILLOGICAL and IMBALANCED racists that are becoming too abundant
you usually talk smart, i'm not sure what happened to ya here...



its complex

but basically, I Think people have a tendency to label anything that mentions or deals with the social realities of the construct of race and its historical and current impact on peoples lives

as 'racist'


I don't think merely acknowledging, mentioning, and looking at how nations or RACES of people within nations have impacted and been impacted should be discouraged

I do think being HATEFUL towards a whole race, or promoting VIOLENCE against a whole race, or belittling and berating a whole race of people should be discouraged


so, yes, in the context of how the term 'racist' is now so broadly used,, I do think there are some 'racist' things that need to continue for change to happen

and other 'racist' things that need to be discouraged,,,

ok, so if i open a website that promotes and advocates a race war with blacks, i wouldn't be racist... thanks for clearing that up for me...



have you went to the website?

As I have said, what I read there didn't 'advocate' war, anymore than gun enthusiasts who believe good people should have guns 'advocate' violence

its advocating to prepare to DEFEND Against violence


you can sugar coat it all you want, racist is racist...i guess blacks really do think they can't be racists...

msharmony's photo
Tue 12/17/13 09:25 AM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 12/17/13 09:26 AM
lol,, case in point


I JUST STATED a belief that everyone in America is racist, but because I don't believe the site advocates war

it becomes an issue of what 'blacks' believe, instead of what I stated,, which happens to NOT Be what is assumed to be the belief of 'blacks,,

and to correct myself, anyone who has grown up with tv, internet, and public education in America is racist,,,wouldn't be able to help BUT BE

mightymoe's photo
Tue 12/17/13 10:04 AM

lol,, case in point


I JUST STATED a belief that everyone in America is racist, but because I don't believe the site advocates war

it becomes an issue of what 'blacks' believe, instead of what I stated,, which happens to NOT Be what is assumed to be the belief of 'blacks,,

and to correct myself, anyone who has grown up with tv, internet, and public education in America is racist,,,wouldn't be able to help BUT BE


so the arian brotherhood wouldn't be racist either then, by your standards... they promote the growth of whites, being pro white...

there is a difference of being pro black and anti white, and the same for the white people... are they anti black or pro white?

msharmony's photo
Tue 12/17/13 10:11 AM


lol,, case in point


I JUST STATED a belief that everyone in America is racist, but because I don't believe the site advocates war

it becomes an issue of what 'blacks' believe, instead of what I stated,, which happens to NOT Be what is assumed to be the belief of 'blacks,,

and to correct myself, anyone who has grown up with tv, internet, and public education in America is racist,,,wouldn't be able to help BUT BE


so the arian brotherhood wouldn't be racist either then, by your standards... they promote the growth of whites, being pro white...

there is a difference of being pro black and anti white, and the same for the white people... are they anti black or pro white?



the issue was whether he advocated war, not whether it was racist

people are FREE To be racist as long as they don't obstruct the rights of others in doing so

the site to me, appears to be pro black, not anti white


mightymoe's photo
Tue 12/17/13 10:19 AM



lol,, case in point


I JUST STATED a belief that everyone in America is racist, but because I don't believe the site advocates war

it becomes an issue of what 'blacks' believe, instead of what I stated,, which happens to NOT Be what is assumed to be the belief of 'blacks,,

and to correct myself, anyone who has grown up with tv, internet, and public education in America is racist,,,wouldn't be able to help BUT BE


so the arian brotherhood wouldn't be racist either then, by your standards... they promote the growth of whites, being pro white...

there is a difference of being pro black and anti white, and the same for the white people... are they anti black or pro white?



the issue was whether he advocated war, not whether it was racist

people are FREE To be racist as long as they don't obstruct the rights of others in doing so

the site to me, appears to be pro black, not anti white




he was fired for being a racist, hence he's a racist... the media and the government proclaimed that already...

i like how you to try to see the good in everything, but you miss a lot of the bad while trying to see the good...

msharmony's photo
Tue 12/17/13 10:27 AM




lol,, case in point


I JUST STATED a belief that everyone in America is racist, but because I don't believe the site advocates war

it becomes an issue of what 'blacks' believe, instead of what I stated,, which happens to NOT Be what is assumed to be the belief of 'blacks,,

and to correct myself, anyone who has grown up with tv, internet, and public education in America is racist,,,wouldn't be able to help BUT BE


so the arian brotherhood wouldn't be racist either then, by your standards... they promote the growth of whites, being pro white...

there is a difference of being pro black and anti white, and the same for the white people... are they anti black or pro white?



the issue was whether he advocated war, not whether it was racist

people are FREE To be racist as long as they don't obstruct the rights of others in doing so

the site to me, appears to be pro black, not anti white




he was fired for being a racist, hence he's a racist... the media and the government proclaimed that already...

i like how you to try to see the good in everything, but you miss a lot of the bad while trying to see the good...



IM actually discussing facts,,,not an issue of good or bad for me here


the op states nothing about being fired 'for being a racist',,obviously his blog violated some part of his contract,,

the site is racist, as it deals specifically with race,,,but it doesn't 'advocate war',,,, in my opinion

mightymoe's photo
Tue 12/17/13 10:34 AM





lol,, case in point


I JUST STATED a belief that everyone in America is racist, but because I don't believe the site advocates war

it becomes an issue of what 'blacks' believe, instead of what I stated,, which happens to NOT Be what is assumed to be the belief of 'blacks,,

and to correct myself, anyone who has grown up with tv, internet, and public education in America is racist,,,wouldn't be able to help BUT BE


so the arian brotherhood wouldn't be racist either then, by your standards... they promote the growth of whites, being pro white...

there is a difference of being pro black and anti white, and the same for the white people... are they anti black or pro white?



the issue was whether he advocated war, not whether it was racist

people are FREE To be racist as long as they don't obstruct the rights of others in doing so

the site to me, appears to be pro black, not anti white




he was fired for being a racist, hence he's a racist... the media and the government proclaimed that already...

i like how you to try to see the good in everything, but you miss a lot of the bad while trying to see the good...



IM actually discussing facts,,,not an issue of good or bad for me here


the op states nothing about being fired 'for being a racist',,obviously his blog violated some part of his contract,,

the site is racist, as it deals specifically with race,,,but it doesn't 'advocate war',,,, in my opinion


we all have our "opinions", but it does advocate war, regardless... is there something i missed about white people getting ready to go to war with the blacks? did i not get that memo? what exactly is he defending the blacks from?

does he want want to kill white babies too?
or does he want protect the blacks from the evil white babies?

sometimes the wording makes a big difference....

msharmony's photo
Tue 12/17/13 10:40 AM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 12/17/13 10:42 AM






lol,, case in point


I JUST STATED a belief that everyone in America is racist, but because I don't believe the site advocates war

it becomes an issue of what 'blacks' believe, instead of what I stated,, which happens to NOT Be what is assumed to be the belief of 'blacks,,

and to correct myself, anyone who has grown up with tv, internet, and public education in America is racist,,,wouldn't be able to help BUT BE


so the arian brotherhood wouldn't be racist either then, by your standards... they promote the growth of whites, being pro white...

there is a difference of being pro black and anti white, and the same for the white people... are they anti black or pro white?



the issue was whether he advocated war, not whether it was racist

people are FREE To be racist as long as they don't obstruct the rights of others in doing so

the site to me, appears to be pro black, not anti white




he was fired for being a racist, hence he's a racist... the media and the government proclaimed that already...

i like how you to try to see the good in everything, but you miss a lot of the bad while trying to see the good...



IM actually discussing facts,,,not an issue of good or bad for me here


the op states nothing about being fired 'for being a racist',,obviously his blog violated some part of his contract,,

the site is racist, as it deals specifically with race,,,but it doesn't 'advocate war',,,, in my opinion


we all have our "opinions", but it does advocate war, regardless... is there something i missed about white people getting ready to go to war with the blacks? did i not get that memo? what exactly is he defending the blacks from?

does he want want to kill white babies too?
or does he want protect the blacks from the evil white babies?

sometimes the wording makes a big difference....



from what I saw ,he is PARANOID about an impending danger upon blacks that they need to be able to DEFEND Themselves from

I dont see it as advocating(recommending) war,, I see it as advocating self defense,,,



much like those who think americans should be prepared to defend themself against communists and government,,,etc,,,



they arent seeking to START War,, they are paranoid enough about the reality of war being started by SOMEONE ELSE that they obsess over their preparedness


its racist because it is based on race, and it is fear mongering because it seeks to enlist by spreading fear,,,but not advocatingfor war,,, in my opinion

mightymoe's photo
Tue 12/17/13 10:48 AM


we all have our "opinions", but it does advocate war, regardless... is there something i missed about white people getting ready to go to war with the blacks? did i not get that memo? what exactly is he defending the blacks from?

does he want want to kill white babies too?
or does he want protect the blacks from the evil white babies?

sometimes the wording makes a big difference....



from what I saw ,he is PARANOID about an impending danger upon blacks that they need to be able to DEFEND Themselves from

I dont see it as advocating(recommending) war,, I see it as advocating self defense,,,



much like those who think americans should be prepared to defend themself against communists and government,,,etc,,,



they arent seeking to START War,, they are paranoid enough about the reality of war being started by SOMEONE ELSE that they obsess over their preparedness


its racist because it is based on race, and it is fear mongering because it seeks to enlist by spreading fear,,,but not advocatingfor war,,, in my opinion


from what?


msharmony's photo
Tue 12/17/13 10:50 AM



we all have our "opinions", but it does advocate war, regardless... is there something i missed about white people getting ready to go to war with the blacks? did i not get that memo? what exactly is he defending the blacks from?

does he want want to kill white babies too?
or does he want protect the blacks from the evil white babies?

sometimes the wording makes a big difference....



from what I saw ,he is PARANOID about an impending danger upon blacks that they need to be able to DEFEND Themselves from

I dont see it as advocating(recommending) war,, I see it as advocating self defense,,,



much like those who think americans should be prepared to defend themself against communists and government,,,etc,,,



they arent seeking to START War,, they are paranoid enough about the reality of war being started by SOMEONE ELSE that they obsess over their preparedness


its racist because it is based on race, and it is fear mongering because it seeks to enlist by spreading fear,,,but not advocatingfor war,,, in my opinion


from what?





genocide

mightymoe's photo
Tue 12/17/13 10:54 AM




we all have our "opinions", but it does advocate war, regardless... is there something i missed about white people getting ready to go to war with the blacks? did i not get that memo? what exactly is he defending the blacks from?

does he want want to kill white babies too?
or does he want protect the blacks from the evil white babies?

sometimes the wording makes a big difference....



from what I saw ,he is PARANOID about an impending danger upon blacks that they need to be able to DEFEND Themselves from

I dont see it as advocating(recommending) war,, I see it as advocating self defense,,,



much like those who think americans should be prepared to defend themself against communists and government,,,etc,,,



they arent seeking to START War,, they are paranoid enough about the reality of war being started by SOMEONE ELSE that they obsess over their preparedness


its racist because it is based on race, and it is fear mongering because it seeks to enlist by spreading fear,,,but not advocatingfor war,,, in my opinion


from what?





genocide


your being suspiciously vague here... what genocide?

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 12/17/13 10:56 AM



lol,, case in point


I JUST STATED a belief that everyone in America is racist, but because I don't believe the site advocates war

it becomes an issue of what 'blacks' believe, instead of what I stated,, which happens to NOT Be what is assumed to be the belief of 'blacks,,

and to correct myself, anyone who has grown up with tv, internet, and public education in America is racist,,,wouldn't be able to help BUT BE


so the arian brotherhood wouldn't be racist either then, by your standards... they promote the growth of whites, being pro white...

there is a difference of being pro black and anti white, and the same for the white people... are they anti black or pro white?



the issue was whether he advocated war, not whether it was racist

people are FREE To be racist as long as they don't obstruct the rights of others in doing so

the site to me, appears to be pro black, not anti white



..................and you want to tell me if a White Man or Group started such a Website,Pro-White,there wouldn't be a Hell of a Stink go up about them being Racist!:laughing:

msharmony's photo
Tue 12/17/13 10:57 AM





we all have our "opinions", but it does advocate war, regardless... is there something i missed about white people getting ready to go to war with the blacks? did i not get that memo? what exactly is he defending the blacks from?

does he want want to kill white babies too?
or does he want protect the blacks from the evil white babies?

sometimes the wording makes a big difference....



from what I saw ,he is PARANOID about an impending danger upon blacks that they need to be able to DEFEND Themselves from

I dont see it as advocating(recommending) war,, I see it as advocating self defense,,,



much like those who think americans should be prepared to defend themself against communists and government,,,etc,,,



they arent seeking to START War,, they are paranoid enough about the reality of war being started by SOMEONE ELSE that they obsess over their preparedness


its racist because it is based on race, and it is fear mongering because it seeks to enlist by spreading fear,,,but not advocatingfor war,,, in my opinion


from what?





genocide


your being suspiciously vague here... what genocide?



why? its his paranoia not mind


genocide: the deliberate killing of a large group of people, esp. those of a particular ethnic group or nation.


I would just GUESS that would be the group he considers himself a part of,,,

mightymoe's photo
Tue 12/17/13 10:58 AM






we all have our "opinions", but it does advocate war, regardless... is there something i missed about white people getting ready to go to war with the blacks? did i not get that memo? what exactly is he defending the blacks from?

does he want want to kill white babies too?
or does he want protect the blacks from the evil white babies?

sometimes the wording makes a big difference....



from what I saw ,he is PARANOID about an impending danger upon blacks that they need to be able to DEFEND Themselves from

I dont see it as advocating(recommending) war,, I see it as advocating self defense,,,



much like those who think americans should be prepared to defend themself against communists and government,,,etc,,,



they arent seeking to START War,, they are paranoid enough about the reality of war being started by SOMEONE ELSE that they obsess over their preparedness


its racist because it is based on race, and it is fear mongering because it seeks to enlist by spreading fear,,,but not advocatingfor war,,, in my opinion


from what?





genocide


your being suspiciously vague here... what genocide?



why? its his paranoia not mind


genocide: the deliberate killing of a large group of people, esp. those of a particular ethnic group or nation.


I would just GUESS that would be the group he considers himself a part of,,,


so your opinion is that he's not racist, just batchit crazy?

msharmony's photo
Tue 12/17/13 11:00 AM




lol,, case in point


I JUST STATED a belief that everyone in America is racist, but because I don't believe the site advocates war

it becomes an issue of what 'blacks' believe, instead of what I stated,, which happens to NOT Be what is assumed to be the belief of 'blacks,,

and to correct myself, anyone who has grown up with tv, internet, and public education in America is racist,,,wouldn't be able to help BUT BE


so the arian brotherhood wouldn't be racist either then, by your standards... they promote the growth of whites, being pro white...

there is a difference of being pro black and anti white, and the same for the white people... are they anti black or pro white?



the issue was whether he advocated war, not whether it was racist

people are FREE To be racist as long as they don't obstruct the rights of others in doing so

the site to me, appears to be pro black, not anti white



..................and you want to tell me if a White Man or Group started such a Website,Pro-White,there wouldn't be a Hell of a Stink go up about them being Racist!:laughing:



white men have sites like this up all over the internet,, so do people from all types of groups


there obviously was a 'stink' as he was fired