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Topic: ObamaCare (ACA) is affordable? By whose standards?
karmafury's photo
Tue 10/22/13 09:22 AM

My ObamaCare rate from the website for me and spose.






My paystub to show current health cost in Canada



All I removed was personal info, hours, Fed and Prov taxes. Paid every two weeks so double what is there to get monthly. This both Provincial and corporate coverage. Would only go up about $10 a month with spouse here.


How by the name of anything holy can Obama call it AFFORDABLE health care?

Looks like the wife going to be learning French.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 10/22/13 09:28 AM


How by the name of anything holy can Obama call it AFFORDABLE health care?


Mainly because he lies about everything

boredinaz06's photo
Tue 10/22/13 09:32 AM



How by the name of anything holy can Obama call it AFFORDABLE health care?


Mainly because he lies about everything


And he is on the take from the insurance lobby.

karmafury's photo
Tue 10/22/13 09:54 AM
This will be interesting



Quebec French spoken with a Missouri accent.




Without having to get three jobs to get healthcare.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Tue 10/22/13 12:16 PM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Tue 10/22/13 12:51 PM

This will be interesting



Quebec French spoken with a Missouri accent.




Without having to get three jobs to get healthcare.


Couple this with doctors leaving the field due to salary cuts.

No idea how im going to pay my student loans...


When calculating salaries/student loans/hours worked/and income, an MD would have to make about 190k a year to break even with nursing staff. And it takes only 2 years to get an RN degree and 12 years to get an MD. Wonder which one people will pick...

MD's are already underpaid. The only way I've seen a few get around it is by opening a private practice and denying medicare and medicaid.

But fear not, as i suppose we can outsource those too...

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/22/13 03:20 PM


My ObamaCare rate from the website for me and spose.






My paystub to show current health cost in Canada



All I removed was personal info, hours, Fed and Prov taxes. Paid every two weeks so double what is there to get monthly. This both Provincial and corporate coverage. Would only go up about $10 a month with spouse here.


How by the name of anything holy can Obama call it AFFORDABLE health care?

Looks like the wife going to be learning French.


please explain as most here don't speak French,,

what part of that image is your healthcare cost,,,?

and are you admitting there would be a 10 dollar increase?

is 10 dollars over a years time unaffordable?

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/22/13 03:22 PM


This will be interesting



Quebec French spoken with a Missouri accent.




Without having to get three jobs to get healthcare.


Couple this with doctors leaving the field due to salary cuts.

No idea how im going to pay my student loans...


When calculating salaries/student loans/hours worked/and income, an MD would have to make about 190k a year to break even with nursing staff. And it takes only 2 years to get an RN degree and 12 years to get an MD. Wonder which one people will pick...

MD's are already underpaid. The only way I've seen a few get around it is by opening a private practice and denying medicare and medicaid.

But fear not, as i suppose we can outsource those too...


mds are underpaid?,,,,interesting

anyway,, those I know haven't left their careers,, not much else that they can make a comparable salary with in this economy or culture without spending another 8-12 years in college,,which would REALLY cost them money

willing2's photo
Tue 10/22/13 03:31 PM
Like the other video says, it will pay better not to work.

One liberal poster claims tax payers pick up the tab for rentals of at least $1,000.00 a month.

Wonder, how much will their taxes go up to support this so-called affordable care?

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/22/13 03:38 PM
how much did they go up to support medicare/Medicaid?

boredinaz06's photo
Tue 10/22/13 04:02 PM



msharmony's photo
Tue 10/22/13 04:13 PM
healthcare through employment

adult + 1 = 124 every two weeks or 248 a month


aca cost 33 per month

,,SOME WILL SAVE, SOME WILL PAY MORE

its not an absolute,,,,but many who were turned away before will no longer be

and that makes it worth it for anyone who is able to care about people beyond themselves,,,


Lpdon's photo
Tue 10/22/13 05:43 PM

healthcare through employment

adult + 1 = 124 every two weeks or 248 a month


aca cost 33 per month

,,SOME WILL SAVE, SOME WILL PAY MORE

its not an absolute,,,,but many who were turned away before will no longer be

and that makes it worth it for anyone who is able to care about people beyond themselves,,,




Coming from someone who's on the receiving end, not the giving end.

boredinaz06's photo
Tue 10/22/13 05:48 PM


Country needs deevorce, I call the south and west coast and everybody else can have east coast and north.

TJN's photo
Tue 10/22/13 05:50 PM

healthcare through employment

adult + 1 = 124 every two weeks or 248 a month


aca cost 33 per month

,,SOME WILL SAVE, SOME WILL PAY MORE

its not an absolute,,,,but many who were turned away before will no longer be

and that makes it worth it for anyone who is able to care about people beyond themselves,,,



That's your premium. What is the deductible?

Bestinshow's photo
Tue 10/22/13 05:56 PM



Country needs deevorce, I call the south and west coast and everybody else can have east coast and north.
Well that would be wonderful for the blue states.

The facts.

States Receiving Most in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid:

1. D.C. ($6.17)
2. North Dakota ($2.03)
3. New Mexico ($1.89)
4. Mississippi ($1.84)
5. Alaska ($1.82)
6. West Virginia ($1.74)
7. Montana ($1.64)
8. Alabama ($1.61)
9. South Dakota ($1.59)
10. Arkansas ($1.53)

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html

Bestinshow's photo
Tue 10/22/13 05:58 PM
States Receiving Least in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid:

1. New Jersey ($0.62)
2. Connecticut ($0.64)
3. New Hampshire ($0.68)
4. Nevada ($0.73)
5. Illinois ($0.77)
6. Minnesota ($0.77)
7. Colorado ($0.79)
8. Massachusetts ($0.79)
9. California ($0.81)
10. New York ($0.81)

Two states -- Florida and Oregon (coincidentally, the two closest states in the 2000 Presidential election) -- received $1.00 in federal spending for each
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html

Peccy's photo
Tue 10/22/13 05:58 PM

healthcare through employment

adult + 1 = 124 every two weeks or 248 a month


aca cost 33 per month

,,SOME WILL SAVE, SOME WILL PAY MORE

its not an absolute,,,,but many who were turned away before will no longer be

and that makes it worth it for anyone who is able to care about people beyond themselves,,,


I care about people, that's just human nature, but Obamacare forces a person to care about everyone or there is a fine. Doesn't sound fair or logical, no matter how you try and spin it.

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/22/13 11:05 PM


healthcare through employment

adult + 1 = 124 every two weeks or 248 a month


aca cost 33 per month

,,SOME WILL SAVE, SOME WILL PAY MORE

its not an absolute,,,,but many who were turned away before will no longer be

and that makes it worth it for anyone who is able to care about people beyond themselves,,,



That's your premium. What is the deductible?



3500

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/22/13 11:06 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 10/22/13 11:09 PM


healthcare through employment

adult + 1 = 124 every two weeks or 248 a month


aca cost 33 per month

,,SOME WILL SAVE, SOME WILL PAY MORE

its not an absolute,,,,but many who were turned away before will no longer be

and that makes it worth it for anyone who is able to care about people beyond themselves,,,




Coming from someone who's on the receiving end, not the giving end.


plenty on the giving end who feel the same, as will I when I am blessed to be in that income bracket,,,

not that an income tax has anything to do with people being able to afford healthcare,,,

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/22/13 11:08 PM


healthcare through employment

adult + 1 = 124 every two weeks or 248 a month


aca cost 33 per month

,,SOME WILL SAVE, SOME WILL PAY MORE

its not an absolute,,,,but many who were turned away before will no longer be

and that makes it worth it for anyone who is able to care about people beyond themselves,,,


I care about people, that's just human nature, but Obamacare forces a person to care about everyone or there is a fine. Doesn't sound fair or logical, no matter how you try and spin it.


well, patriotism forces people to care about americans , soldiers,, etc,,,

I care about them AND the down trodden enough to contribute what I am ABLE to contribute,,

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