Topic: What is real Christianity????
no1phD's photo
Wed 03/26/14 02:02 PM
...hmm...

TBRich's photo
Wed 03/26/14 02:09 PM

...hmm...


Sounds interesting, I would like to learn more.

Avatar46151's photo
Sun 03/30/14 06:22 AM
I don't even know what it means to be religious. Or even if I should say or even talk about my faith to god. I just can't explain it. I just don't know if I should go to church, there are so many with different ideas. I just wish I knew the place to go...

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/30/14 07:42 AM
to me, it is to walk in the spirit (in the manner) of Christ in our love towards God and each other and to believe in Jesus sacrifice on the cross to pay for sin and respect that sacrifice by 'sacrificing' our own WORLDLY values and priorities, for the priorities of turning from sin and growing in faith, and being there for others wishing to do the same

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 03/30/14 08:47 AM
something that went out when Paul The Globalist came in!

MartaRas's photo
Tue 04/01/14 03:46 PM
I am christian but I am also agnostic... so My religion for me is that I had christ and maybe I'll have merriage and the last sacrament. Rest like Bible and argues about that is not interesting for me. I like ladys so for some people I am acursed ];->

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Thu 04/03/14 05:35 AM

I think we can all logically agree that the past does not exist, except as memory, and the future is just a bunch of probabilities. A "prophesy" is someone's prediction or envisioned future probability. There is no guarantee that any prophesy or prediction will happen.

The only place you can do anything, think anything, be anything is in this present moment. The present moment (NOW) is all that exists.

So why not talk about NOW instead of 2000 year old stories?

What is salvation?

Definition: sal�va�tion
noun THEOLOGY
1. deliverance from sin and its consequences, believed by Christians to be brought about by faith in Christ.

The term Christ is a title, equivalent of the Old Testament term messiah and means anointed one. The anointed one delivers the elect from their sin. The Christ has three offices: Prophet, Priest, and King. As Prophet He is the mouthpiece of God (Matt. 5:27-28) and represents God to man. As Priest He represents man to God and restores fellowship between them by offering Himself as the sacrifice that removed the sin of those saved.

What is sin:
1. an immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law.
synonyms: immoral act, wrong, wrongdoing, act of evil/wickedness, transgression, crime, offense, misdeed, misdemeanor;

What is faith?noun":
1. complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
"this restores one's faith in politicians"
synonyms:trust, belief, confidence, conviction; More
antonyms: mistrust

2. strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.


What is messiah?

mes�si�ah -noun
1. the promised deliverer of the Jewish nation prophesied in the Hebrew Bible.
2. a leader or savior of a particular group or cause.


So simplified by these definitions, without worrying about what name you want to call the messiah or savior, I come to a conclusion that I have a question about.

Why would you believe that a blood sacrifice removes sin and What is the logic in that?

Before the Christ sacrifice, pagans killed animals. Some still do. What does that represent? Food for the beast? Who is the beast?

Then there are mythical stories of dragons to whom virgins were sacrificed. What symbolic meaning does that have?

In ancient mid evil times, what kind of monster god or devil required a blood sacrifice to forgive the 'sins' of the people?

Where did that symbolic myth come from? Or was it real? Were human and animal sacrifices given to some monster god or did the people just imagine there was a god who required blood sacrifice?

Hi, yes there is a god that requires human sacrifice to exist probably the devil himself.
The sad truth is 1/3 of world's population'Gen 6vs 1-7' rely on these sacrifices to exist.









regularfeller's photo
Fri 04/04/14 09:03 PM
perhaps we should ask the Spanish Inquisition!!!


“No one expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise, fear and surprise; two chief weapons, fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency! Er, among our chief weapons are: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, and near fanatical devotion to the Pope! Um, I'll come in again...”

deltaDawnII's photo
Sat 04/12/14 05:48 AM
Amen!

Bobby1050's photo
Sat 04/12/14 08:59 AM

something that went out when Paul The Globalist came in!


Are you sure you don't mean Maimonides the Globalist?

Better check your source.

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Sat 04/12/14 09:01 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 04/12/14 09:05 AM

deltaDawnII's photo
Sun 05/04/14 03:36 PM
It's simple folks
God had a plan. He loved us, his kids, so much that he sent his only son, Jesus Christ to be the sacrifice to atone for each of our sins, so that we would not have to die, but have eternal life.

the ONLY way to heaven is through Jesus Christ- to say that you believe He was a man who walked the Earth, chose to be crucified, was buried in the tomb, and rose, then ascended to Heaven to go prepare a place with many rooms for us.

Sin, by the way, isn't just murder and adultery and lying/stealing.
many sins even look kind and thoughtfulon the surface.
a sin is anything that creates distance in our relationship/friendship with God, our father in heaven. just like we have friends who we pull away from for one reason or another.

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Mon 05/05/14 04:37 AM

{a sin is anything that creates distance in our relationship/friendship with God}

Islam teaches that all the prophets of God – including Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad- taught basically the same religion: namely 'to worship the One True God and lead a life of obedience to His commandments'.
The story of our first parents Adam and Eve narrated in the Bible is also recounted in the Quran. Both Christians and Muslims are united in the belief that Adam was misled by Satan to disobey God and to eat the forbidden fruit, and consequently God expelled him and his progeny from Paradise.
Muslims believe that Adam soon after the act of disobedience became aware of the seriousness of his sin and repented. He sought the forgiveness of God, and God forgave him.
Sin, from the point of view of Islam, is a conscious and willful act that violates a commandment of God or the right of a fellow being. We cannot consider a person to be a sinner if he or she acts under duress or out of ignorance, because human accountability is an important aspect of justice as envisaged in Islam. And no one can be truly held accountable for an action he has no power to avoid, because, God does not lay more burden on a human than he can bear.
Islam teaches that sin is an avoidable act that harms the perpetrator's own soul. This means that there is no innate or inherited nature that prompts a person to disobey God. That is to say, it is a person's free choice whether to sin or not; and one's disposition to sin is only as much as, if not less than, their inclination to do good.




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Mon 05/05/14 05:13 AM


{a sin is anything that creates distance in our relationship/friendship with God}

Islam teaches that all the prophets of God – including Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad- taught basically the same religion: namely 'to worship the One True God and lead a life of obedience to His commandments'.
The story of our first parents Adam and Eve narrated in the Bible is also recounted in the Quran. Both Christians and Muslims are united in the belief that Adam was misled by Satan to disobey God and to eat the forbidden fruit, and consequently God expelled him and his progeny from Paradise.
Muslims believe that Adam soon after the act of disobedience became aware of the seriousness of his sin and repented. He sought the forgiveness of God, and God forgave him.
Sin, from the point of view of Islam, is a conscious and willful act that violates a commandment of God or the right of a fellow being. We cannot consider a person to be a sinner if he or she acts under duress or out of ignorance, because human accountability is an important aspect of justice as envisaged in Islam. And no one can be truly held accountable for an action he has no power to avoid, because, God does not lay more burden on a human than he can bear.
Islam teaches that sin is an avoidable act that harms the perpetrator's own soul. This means that there is no innate or inherited nature that prompts a person to disobey God. That is to say, it is a person's free choice whether to sin or not; and one's disposition to sin is only as much as, if not less than, their inclination to do good.







Koran is Patchwork of half a dozen Religions!
Even more so than the Bible!

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 05/05/14 11:57 AM



{a sin is anything that creates distance in our relationship/friendship with God}

Islam teaches that all the prophets of God – including Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad- taught basically the same religion: namely 'to worship the One True God and lead a life of obedience to His commandments'.
The story of our first parents Adam and Eve narrated in the Bible is also recounted in the Quran. Both Christians and Muslims are united in the belief that Adam was misled by Satan to disobey God and to eat the forbidden fruit, and consequently God expelled him and his progeny from Paradise.
Muslims believe that Adam soon after the act of disobedience became aware of the seriousness of his sin and repented. He sought the forgiveness of God, and God forgave him.
Sin, from the point of view of Islam, is a conscious and willful act that violates a commandment of God or the right of a fellow being. We cannot consider a person to be a sinner if he or she acts under duress or out of ignorance, because human accountability is an important aspect of justice as envisaged in Islam. And no one can be truly held accountable for an action he has no power to avoid, because, God does not lay more burden on a human than he can bear.
Islam teaches that sin is an avoidable act that harms the perpetrator's own soul. This means that there is no innate or inherited nature that prompts a person to disobey God. That is to say, it is a person's free choice whether to sin or not; and one's disposition to sin is only as much as, if not less than, their inclination to do good.







Koran is Patchwork of half a dozen Religions!
Even more so than the Bible!


Not debating what you said, but how do you know? Where you there when any of the beliefs were first founded? Just because one or two beliefs may have possible similarities, does not mean the belief was stolen from another belief. Care to elaborate on this conclusion you've come to?

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 05/05/14 12:00 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Mon 05/05/14 12:02 PM




{a sin is anything that creates distance in our relationship/friendship with God}

Islam teaches that all the prophets of God – including Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad- taught basically the same religion: namely 'to worship the One True God and lead a life of obedience to His commandments'.
The story of our first parents Adam and Eve narrated in the Bible is also recounted in the Quran. Both Christians and Muslims are united in the belief that Adam was misled by Satan to disobey God and to eat the forbidden fruit, and consequently God expelled him and his progeny from Paradise.
Muslims believe that Adam soon after the act of disobedience became aware of the seriousness of his sin and repented. He sought the forgiveness of God, and God forgave him.
Sin, from the point of view of Islam, is a conscious and willful act that violates a commandment of God or the right of a fellow being. We cannot consider a person to be a sinner if he or she acts under duress or out of ignorance, because human accountability is an important aspect of justice as envisaged in Islam. And no one can be truly held accountable for an action he has no power to avoid, because, God does not lay more burden on a human than he can bear.
Islam teaches that sin is an avoidable act that harms the perpetrator's own soul. This means that there is no innate or inherited nature that prompts a person to disobey God. That is to say, it is a person's free choice whether to sin or not; and one's disposition to sin is only as much as, if not less than, their inclination to do good.







Koran is Patchwork of half a dozen Religions!
Even more so than the Bible!


Not debating what you said, but how do you know? Where you there when any of the beliefs were first founded? Just because one or two beliefs may have possible similarities, does not mean the belief was stolen from another belief. Care to elaborate on this conclusion you've come to?

Study Old Son,study!
Look at the sources of the Bible and the Koran,and look at the origin of the Stories!

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 05/05/14 12:03 PM


something that went out when Paul The Globalist came in!


Are you sure you don't mean Maimonides the Globalist?

Better check your source.

Phobia much?

Jesusprincessmt's photo
Mon 05/05/14 01:20 PM
To me, Christianity is a relationship with God/Jesus that has become a religion. What harm does prayer have? None. Prayer is a powerful force. We pray to thank God for everything that is provided to us and we pray to God for help. It is when that relationship becomes a religion and legalities are associated with what should be about loving others. We are not the judge of who goes to hell or not. If we all stopped trying to control others and condemning others, we would see that love is really what we are here for. We all have a choice. Just because I choose to have a relationship with Jesus does not make me better or worse. I can say that when I denied God, life was different and harder to get out of difficult situations. Jesus and the Holy Spirit are helpers to get through the hard times.

This may not make sense because I am typing on my phone and only have a little window to see what I typed. Sorry.

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 05/05/14 04:05 PM





{a sin is anything that creates distance in our relationship/friendship with God}

Islam teaches that all the prophets of God – including Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad- taught basically the same religion: namely 'to worship the One True God and lead a life of obedience to His commandments'.
The story of our first parents Adam and Eve narrated in the Bible is also recounted in the Quran. Both Christians and Muslims are united in the belief that Adam was misled by Satan to disobey God and to eat the forbidden fruit, and consequently God expelled him and his progeny from Paradise.
Muslims believe that Adam soon after the act of disobedience became aware of the seriousness of his sin and repented. He sought the forgiveness of God, and God forgave him.
Sin, from the point of view of Islam, is a conscious and willful act that violates a commandment of God or the right of a fellow being. We cannot consider a person to be a sinner if he or she acts under duress or out of ignorance, because human accountability is an important aspect of justice as envisaged in Islam. And no one can be truly held accountable for an action he has no power to avoid, because, God does not lay more burden on a human than he can bear.
Islam teaches that sin is an avoidable act that harms the perpetrator's own soul. This means that there is no innate or inherited nature that prompts a person to disobey God. That is to say, it is a person's free choice whether to sin or not; and one's disposition to sin is only as much as, if not less than, their inclination to do good.







Koran is Patchwork of half a dozen Religions!
Even more so than the Bible!


Not debating what you said, but how do you know? Where you there when any of the beliefs were first founded? Just because one or two beliefs may have possible similarities, does not mean the belief was stolen from another belief. Care to elaborate on this conclusion you've come to?

Study Old Son,study!
Look at the sources of the Bible and the Koran,and look at the origin of the Stories!


I don't see where you're coming from here. You can not have such a broad area as "bible". We speaking old covenant/testament? Or we speaking the new covenant God has made between God and man?

no photo
Mon 05/05/14 07:13 PM
Christianity is living the gospels and love for the words of Jesus. nothing else counts. I think if Jesus could see most "churches" today, he'd upend the altars as he did in the temples of the pharisees

A lot of what is contained in his words is a reflection of the culture of the time and he was known to speak in parables and that is very important to remember. Sin is irrelevant and not really a concept that makes sense in the doctrine of love. It is more a creation of man. There are good acts and acts which (as someone else said) corrupt the path to enlightenment or truth. to think of choices that way is more helpful to me than the word "sin." How I feel about sin does not determine my Christianity. My belief in the Trinity solidifies that tho I often read buddhist teachings too.

I can see no practical relationship to old testament religions like Islam or Judiasm. Jesus came to save us from that violent and punitive way