There in lies the trouble with your perceptions. To pay self insure one must have at least a grand a month disposable income..... at least, and at your age I would assume more. That would put you very close to the silver spoon area. Its no stretch on my part to assume this. I also asked you if you earned it so I so no reason at all for you to be so defensive or confrontational.

I also asked you if you raised a family. My point is we all make our choices we are all not born with the same IQ's or benefits or even being born in a middle class.

We are a society and as such we all need to take care of each other just as I help pay for your liberal program medicare a younger person will pay into mine when I get older.

What I see in this statement is assumptions not based on any fact.... period!

And I also see you saying you approve of a gov't spending the wealth of future generations not yet born..... and you think this is logical?

I'll say it again.....DEBT IS NOT WEALTH!

I have no trouble paying into medicare or social security or to pave roads or pay teachers and police etc etc.

We are not borrowing money from China to do all the above, we are borrowing it to fund two wars that are privatized with people like Cheney and haliburtons raping our treasury. We are borrowing money to build a huge internal domestic spy program that is also in the hands of private profiteers. What have these wars cost how many trillions?

We are also borrowing it so huge corporations pay no taxes on record profits.

These are strange times indeed when rich people pay rich people to tell middle class people its the poor's fault

debt and wealth can coexist

for instance,,,if one is making 10 mill per year, and they are living within their means,, it is reasonable to consider them wealthy

even if their 'debt',,(outstanding bills due) is 10 mill as well,,,

they can be paying on long term obligations on time, and still be 'in debt' , but not in danger of damaging credit, losing status,, etc

on the other hand, that same person could be in 10 mill debt, all being DUE within the year,, and be in deep doodoo

the first is wealthy because they are living with in a state of surplus where their debt is concerned

the other is in deep doo doo because they are living with a serious DEFICIT where their debt is concerned



what we need to do is stay in a status of surplus, paying our obligations on time

and if we are doing that, we are in good shape, regardless of how much we still have to pay on our long tern obligations,,,


,,,,we are going to increase DEBT, the monetary value of accounts not yet paid in full,, by virtue of inflation and the changing dollar value that amount will increase

but we don't have to constantly run with a DEFICIT , if we learn to live within our means and pay our bills on time

This..
Dental is higher..same plan.
Vision is higher...same plan.
My copay went from 20 to 25
Medical is biggest jump.higher deductible.higher copay.
and a new tobacco surcharge as well 50 month.
forced to contribute 3% of check to retirement as well.

all this will begin Jan.our open enrollment just ended.
seems I am just putting in my 40 for taxes and ins.
This is for my two boys and I only.

I don't think the problem is perception...Your knowledge about health insurance is limited and rather than research before you open your mouth, you make foolish assumptions.....My current monthly health care insurance premium is below triple digits and has been for the past 12 years....Rather than continue making a fool of yourself, try thinking outside the box, then do a little research....You calling me confrontational is laughable ......Your "points" are common knowledge Best....Tell us something we don't know.....Now will you please answer my second question?....

Oh, PS:...Yes, I raised one child, she will be 45 in December....She has a Masters Degree in Education, teaches World History, and lives in NC....I also helped raise three step-children, all boys...They lived with me and their father for five years...It was a full plate, but somehow I managed....

You are indeed a hard one to follow my friend. You often seem to contradict your own opinions and statements.

These are strange times indeed, and as such, confusion is the enemy.

It's hard to tell what you are for and what you are against by many of your posts.

Do you understand the federal reserve system and that federal taxes don't pay for those things? Wars? yes, but none of the other things you mentioned. Those are state taxes and trust funds. The trust funds have been looted to pay for the unfunded, unconstitutional wars, plus borrowing more, and that now creates the debt on our future generations having to support the programs we "had" paid into.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0&feature=youtu.be

I take it you have some type of 80/20 plan and you have no family. Family plans are far more expensive. I am going to assume your being honest.

I see no reason at all to answer your question as it was asked based on your missed perception of a comment you failed to understand. I would think a woman of your age would have a little grace....... my bad

Excuse me? Did you just insult the lady for being a senior.... AGAIN?

Once can be a mistake, but twice is sheer disrespect!

Not at all........ please stay on topic

Stay on topic my a$$....no gentleman allows a lady to be insulted for her age without saying something!

Curb your words my friend!

Ooooopsy,hand in Cookiejar again?
BTW,you better hope and pray that Obamacare doesn't turn your Cadillac-Healthplan into plain Rust!


Or was that Hope and Change?
Michael Moore said,Eat The Rich,and eventually with your favored Union-Status you'll become "THE RICH"?

other issues aside,, where was there an INSULT Based in age there?

don't WOMEN have class? as opposed to girls?

isn't that something that usually comes as people gain experience,,ie,, age?

could it be insulting that presuming someone elses attachment of class to age

is somehow an INSULT to age?

There you go, making false assumptions again...

Tell me one time this lady has been anything but graceful, even after the 1st insult!

In case your missed it, this is for you Best...

it was exactly that, a question of 'grace', not an insult about age,,

An insult to her grace or age, either one is still an insult, no matter what spin you try to put to it

no more than saying someone of your beauty would have grace
or someone of your intelligence would have grace

the first part (your beauty, your intelligence) is just an observation, not an insult

the second (implying an expected grace is absent) is not


we all do have an age , don't we?

I expect a woman by her thirties to have some grace,, would I Be implying some insult to 'senior' status if I Said so to her?

Speaking in generalities is much different than a direct attack on someones character as his comments were..... spin that one!