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Topic: Lets Talk About Our Insurance
Leigh2154 Joined Sun 10/02/11 Posts: 16479	Tue 10/15/13 07:52 AM
I pay 167 and some change a month for my family plan, ten dollar co pay and everything else is paid 100%. My union negotiated our insurance and we have given up some pay increases to get good affordable insurance. The point I am making is this. I KNOW I have a great plan but I also know others pay so much its almost unaffordable for them. That is the trouble its not Obamacare its not dem or republican its a social issue on all levels. Why was insurance so affordable to our parents generation and now its rising ten percent a year until no one can afford it? ..............and you wonder why it is so expensive for others! Unions are part of the Elite! Why is it so many Union members go blind and deaf?....Must be all that unnecessary protection they're paying top dollar for....Unions Mobs!....

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 10/15/13 07:58 AM Edited by Conrad_73 on Tue 10/15/13 07:58 AM
I pay 167 and some change a month for my family plan, ten dollar co pay and everything else is paid 100%. My union negotiated our insurance and we have given up some pay increases to get good affordable insurance. The point I am making is this. I KNOW I have a great plan but I also know others pay so much its almost unaffordable for them. That is the trouble its not Obamacare its not dem or republican its a social issue on all levels. Why was insurance so affordable to our parents generation and now its rising ten percent a year until no one can afford it? ..............and you wonder why it is so expensive for others! Unions are part of the Elite! Why is it so many Union members go blind and deaf?....Must be all that unnecessary protection they're paying top dollar for....Unions Mobs!.... OMG!Glad this isn't my Shinbone!

Leigh2154 Joined Sun 10/02/11 Posts: 16479	Tue 10/15/13 08:35 AM
I pay 167 and some change a month for my family plan, ten dollar co pay and everything else is paid 100%. My union negotiated our insurance and we have given up some pay increases to get good affordable insurance. The point I am making is this. I KNOW I have a great plan but I also know others pay so much its almost unaffordable for them. That is the trouble its not Obamacare its not dem or republican its a social issue on all levels. Why was insurance so affordable to our parents generation and now its rising ten percent a year until no one can afford it? ..............and you wonder why it is so expensive for others! Unions are part of the Elite! Why is it so many Union members go blind and deaf?....Must be all that unnecessary protection they're paying top dollar for....Unions Mobs!.... OMG!Glad this isn't my Shinbone!

alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Tue 10/15/13 08:46 AM
I was paying 187.00 a month In January it will be 411.00 a month.. I'm pissed Yeah, I looked on my state's exchange website and plans that differed in price by several $hundred, too. Choice sucks, huh? Yea, I don't think she was pissed about the choice..

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Wed 10/16/13 05:22 AM
I pay 167 and some change a month for my family plan, ten dollar co pay and everything else is paid 100%. My union negotiated our insurance and we have given up some pay increases to get good affordable insurance. The point I am making is this. I KNOW I have a great plan but I also know others pay so much its almost unaffordable for them. That is the trouble its not Obamacare its not dem or republican its a social issue on all levels. Why was insurance so affordable to our parents generation and now its rising ten percent a year until no one can afford it? ..............and you wonder why it is so expensive for others! Unions are part of the Elite! Why is it so many Union members go blind and deaf?....Must be all that unnecessary protection they're paying top dollar for....Unions Mobs!.... What type of insurance do you have? Who pays your healthcare if you have it.

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Wed 10/16/13 05:46 AM
I pay 167 and some change a month for my family plan, ten dollar co pay and everything else is paid 100%. My union negotiated our insurance and we have given up some pay increases to get good affordable insurance. The point I am making is this. I KNOW I have a great plan but I also know others pay so much its almost unaffordable for them. That is the trouble its not Obamacare its not dem or republican its a social issue on all levels. Why was insurance so affordable to our parents generation and now its rising ten percent a year until no one can afford it? ..............and you wonder why it is so expensive for others! Unions are part of the Elite! I have a hard time understanding that logic. My insurance is only cheaper for me because I work under a union contract, it is no less expensive for my employer. We have given up work rules, pay increases and other benefits to maintain affordable insurance. By work rules I will give an example, in the bad old days if you were a CNC lather operator you ran one lathe and that is all you did. In my world I run four robotic fed lathes, give a lunch break to the inspector maintain and adjust my lathes trouble shoot the robot when it hickups, maintain fluid levels in all remove finished stock and do whatever it takes to maintain production. This maintains my life style and that of my employer, so sorry if you think hard work should not be rewarded but is that not the american dream?

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Wed 10/16/13 05:49 AM Edited by Conrad_73 on Wed 10/16/13 05:51 AM
I pay 167 and some change a month for my family plan, ten dollar co pay and everything else is paid 100%. My union negotiated our insurance and we have given up some pay increases to get good affordable insurance. The point I am making is this. I KNOW I have a great plan but I also know others pay so much its almost unaffordable for them. That is the trouble its not Obamacare its not dem or republican its a social issue on all levels. Why was insurance so affordable to our parents generation and now its rising ten percent a year until no one can afford it? ..............and you wonder why it is so expensive for others! Unions are part of the Elite! I have a hard time understanding that logic. My insurance is only cheaper for me because I work under a union contract, it is no less expensive for my employer. We have given up work rules, pay increases and other benefits to maintain affordable insurance. By work rules I will give an example, in the bad old days if you were a CNC lather operator you ran one lathe and that is all you did. In my world I run four robotic fed lathes, give a lunch break to the inspector maintain and adjust my lathes trouble shoot the robot when it hickups, maintain fluid levels in all remove finished stock and do whatever it takes to maintain production. This maintains my life style and that of my employer, so sorry if you think hard work should not be rewarded but is that not the american dream? Of course you are not able to see the Forest for the Trees! Ever heard a Fishmonger say that his Fish stink? Union gets favorite Treatment,someone elses Premium gets higher! Simple Arithmetics!

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Wed 10/16/13 05:51 AM
I pay 167 and some change a month for my family plan, ten dollar co pay and everything else is paid 100%. My union negotiated our insurance and we have given up some pay increases to get good affordable insurance. The point I am making is this. I KNOW I have a great plan but I also know others pay so much its almost unaffordable for them. That is the trouble its not Obamacare its not dem or republican its a social issue on all levels. Why was insurance so affordable to our parents generation and now its rising ten percent a year until no one can afford it? ..............and you wonder why it is so expensive for others! Unions are part of the Elite! I have a hard time understanding that logic. My insurance is only cheaper for me because I work under a union contract, it is no less expensive for my employer. We have given up work rules, pay increases and other benefits to maintain affordable insurance. By work rules I will give an example, in the bad old days if you were a CNC lather operator you ran one lathe and that is all you did. In my world I run four robotic fed lathes, give a lunch break to the inspector maintain and adjust my lathes trouble shoot the robot when it hickups, maintain fluid levels in all remove finished stock and do whatever it takes to maintain production. This maintains my life style and that of my employer, so sorry if you think hard work should not be rewarded but is that not the american dream? Of course you are not able to see the Forest for the Trees! Ever heard a Fishmonger say that his Fish stink? Huh? would it make you happy Mr conrad if I paid more for insurance and worked for less? I am after all here to make the man from Zurich happy :)

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Wed 10/16/13 05:53 AM
I pay 167 and some change a month for my family plan, ten dollar co pay and everything else is paid 100%. My union negotiated our insurance and we have given up some pay increases to get good affordable insurance. The point I am making is this. I KNOW I have a great plan but I also know others pay so much its almost unaffordable for them. That is the trouble its not Obamacare its not dem or republican its a social issue on all levels. Why was insurance so affordable to our parents generation and now its rising ten percent a year until no one can afford it? ..............and you wonder why it is so expensive for others! Unions are part of the Elite! I have a hard time understanding that logic. My insurance is only cheaper for me because I work under a union contract, it is no less expensive for my employer. We have given up work rules, pay increases and other benefits to maintain affordable insurance. By work rules I will give an example, in the bad old days if you were a CNC lather operator you ran one lathe and that is all you did. In my world I run four robotic fed lathes, give a lunch break to the inspector maintain and adjust my lathes trouble shoot the robot when it hickups, maintain fluid levels in all remove finished stock and do whatever it takes to maintain production. This maintains my life style and that of my employer, so sorry if you think hard work should not be rewarded but is that not the american dream? Of course you are not able to see the Forest for the Trees! Ever heard a Fishmonger say that his Fish stink? Huh? would it make you happy Mr conrad if I paid more for insurance and worked for less? I am after all here to make the man from Zurich happy :) Nope,just for what you are worth on the Market,instead of what the Mobster-Union-Boss is able to extort from the Employer!

Sojourning_Soul Joined Fri 02/13/09 Posts: 10767	Wed 10/16/13 07:04 AM
I pay 167 and some change a month for my family plan, ten dollar co pay and everything else is paid 100%. My union negotiated our insurance and we have given up some pay increases to get good affordable insurance. The point I am making is this. I KNOW I have a great plan but I also know others pay so much its almost unaffordable for them. That is the trouble its not Obamacare its not dem or republican its a social issue on all levels. Why was insurance so affordable to our parents generation and now its rising ten percent a year until no one can afford it? ..............and you wonder why it is so expensive for others! Unions are part of the Elite! I have a hard time understanding that logic. My insurance is only cheaper for me because I work under a union contract, it is no less expensive for my employer. We have given up work rules, pay increases and other benefits to maintain affordable insurance. By work rules I will give an example, in the bad old days if you were a CNC lather operator you ran one lathe and that is all you did. In my world I run four robotic fed lathes, give a lunch break to the inspector maintain and adjust my lathes trouble shoot the robot when it hickups, maintain fluid levels in all remove finished stock and do whatever it takes to maintain production. This maintains my life style and that of my employer, so sorry if you think hard work should not be rewarded but is that not the american dream? So you're working harder for less so the unions and your employer can profit...... but you have insurance and a credit limit..... debt is not wealth, or a dream.

Sojourning_Soul Joined Fri 02/13/09 Posts: 10767	Wed 10/16/13 07:18 AM
A message from Wild Bill for America http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxDbI7QNivA

Leigh2154 Joined Sun 10/02/11 Posts: 16479	Wed 10/16/13 07:21 AM
I pay 167 and some change a month for my family plan, ten dollar co pay and everything else is paid 100%. My union negotiated our insurance and we have given up some pay increases to get good affordable insurance. The point I am making is this. I KNOW I have a great plan but I also know others pay so much its almost unaffordable for them. That is the trouble its not Obamacare its not dem or republican its a social issue on all levels. Why was insurance so affordable to our parents generation and now its rising ten percent a year until no one can afford it? ..............and you wonder why it is so expensive for others! Unions are part of the Elite! Why is it so many Union members go blind and deaf?....Must be all that unnecessary protection they're paying top dollar for....Unions Mobs!.... What type of insurance do you have? Who pays your healthcare if you have it. I have BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee.... I self insure and have since I retired in 2001 at age 52....In February I will be 65....Yesterday I received a packet from The Department of Health & Human Services letting me know that I am now automatically enrolled in Medicare Part A and B....Part A (hospital insurance) is free, part B (medical insurance) will cost me $104.90 if I decide to buy it....Medicare also offers Parts C and D.....Part C is called Medicare Advantage Plans and the cost is not determined until you select a plan...Part C is Prescription drug coverage and its cost is not determined until you choose a plan....

Sojourning_Soul Joined Fri 02/13/09 Posts: 10767	Wed 10/16/13 08:49 AM
Before we talk about raising taxes or imposing new ones...... Where's the intelligent conversation about this? http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/unitedstates

alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Wed 10/16/13 09:08 AM
A message from Wild Bill for America http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxDbI7QNivA I like ol' Wild Bill.

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Wed 10/16/13 09:15 AM
I pay 167 and some change a month for my family plan, ten dollar co pay and everything else is paid 100%. My union negotiated our insurance and we have given up some pay increases to get good affordable insurance. The point I am making is this. I KNOW I have a great plan but I also know others pay so much its almost unaffordable for them. That is the trouble its not Obamacare its not dem or republican its a social issue on all levels. Why was insurance so affordable to our parents generation and now its rising ten percent a year until no one can afford it? ..............and you wonder why it is so expensive for others! Unions are part of the Elite! I have a hard time understanding that logic. My insurance is only cheaper for me because I work under a union contract, it is no less expensive for my employer. We have given up work rules, pay increases and other benefits to maintain affordable insurance. By work rules I will give an example, in the bad old days if you were a CNC lather operator you ran one lathe and that is all you did. In my world I run four robotic fed lathes, give a lunch break to the inspector maintain and adjust my lathes trouble shoot the robot when it hickups, maintain fluid levels in all remove finished stock and do whatever it takes to maintain production. This maintains my life style and that of my employer, so sorry if you think hard work should not be rewarded but is that not the american dream? Of course you are not able to see the Forest for the Trees! Ever heard a Fishmonger say that his Fish stink? Huh? would it make you happy Mr conrad if I paid more for insurance and worked for less? I am after all here to make the man from Zurich happy :) Nope,just for what you are worth on the Market,instead of what the Mobster-Union-Boss is able to extort from the Employer! Ah yes the mysterious invisible force we call the market. I am sure the people in Switzerland would never tolerate what the non union workers in Uber Amerika endure. I know many men my age who were "let go" by companies they worked many years for the simple reason that they make to much are to old or have to much vacation time many of these men now work with me since our business is thriving and hiring. The facts are that the top 1% have doubled their income over the last ten years and income for the average family is about the same as it was in 1989. Food and fuel and insurance have all increased yet wages are frozen. The Ceo's even in failing companies give themselves annual raises and bonuses yet if a worker wishes a wage increase they are scorned or if they join a union to demand to keep up with inflation we are called extortionists. The world you wish us americans to live in is far removed from the world you live in in Swittzerland so whats your obsession with all your extreme right wings opinions? If I am not mistaken your country is one of the most progressive in Europe.

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Wed 10/16/13 09:18 AM
I pay 167 and some change a month for my family plan, ten dollar co pay and everything else is paid 100%. My union negotiated our insurance and we have given up some pay increases to get good affordable insurance. The point I am making is this. I KNOW I have a great plan but I also know others pay so much its almost unaffordable for them. That is the trouble its not Obamacare its not dem or republican its a social issue on all levels. Why was insurance so affordable to our parents generation and now its rising ten percent a year until no one can afford it? ..............and you wonder why it is so expensive for others! Unions are part of the Elite! Why is it so many Union members go blind and deaf?....Must be all that unnecessary protection they're paying top dollar for....Unions Mobs!.... What type of insurance do you have? Who pays your healthcare if you have it. I have BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee.... I self insure and have since I retired in 2001 at age 52....In February I will be 65....Yesterday I received a packet from The Department of Health & Human Services letting me know that I am now automatically enrolled in Medicare Part A and B....Part A (hospital insurance) is free, part B (medical insurance) will cost me $104.90 if I decide to buy it....Medicare also offers Parts C and D.....Part C is called Medicare Advantage Plans and the cost is not determined until you select a plan...Part C is Prescription drug coverage and its cost is not determined until you choose a plan.... Were your born with a silver spoon? Did you earn your silver spoon or marry in to it? Self insure is very expensive.

Leigh2154 Joined Sun 10/02/11 Posts: 16479	Wed 10/16/13 09:35 AM
I pay 167 and some change a month for my family plan, ten dollar co pay and everything else is paid 100%. My union negotiated our insurance and we have given up some pay increases to get good affordable insurance. The point I am making is this. I KNOW I have a great plan but I also know others pay so much its almost unaffordable for them. That is the trouble its not Obamacare its not dem or republican its a social issue on all levels. Why was insurance so affordable to our parents generation and now its rising ten percent a year until no one can afford it? ..............and you wonder why it is so expensive for others! Unions are part of the Elite! Why is it so many Union members go blind and deaf?....Must be all that unnecessary protection they're paying top dollar for....Unions Mobs!.... What type of insurance do you have? Who pays your healthcare if you have it. I have BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee.... I self insure and have since I retired in 2001 at age 52....In February I will be 65....Yesterday I received a packet from The Department of Health & Human Services letting me know that I am now automatically enrolled in Medicare Part A and B....Part A (hospital insurance) is free, part B (medical insurance) will cost me $104.90 if I decide to buy it....Medicare also offers Parts C and D.....Part C is called Medicare Advantage Plans and the cost is not determined until you select a plan...Part C is Prescription drug coverage and its cost is not determined until you choose a plan.... Were your born with a silver spoon? Did you earn your silver spoon or marry in to it? Self insure is very expensive. Neither, I worked my azz off to secure my future....After I retired, rather than use the money in my IRA, I made a pretty decent living buying and selling real estate (flipping properties)....No silver spoon at birth, no rich husbands...Just hard work and plenty of it....Now can I ask you two questions?...Why do you assume the only way a woman can finance her own life is to be born with or marry money?.... Are you a male chauvinist pig?....

Sojourning_Soul Joined Fri 02/13/09 Posts: 10767	Wed 10/16/13 09:41 AM Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 10/16/13 09:41 AM
I pay 167 and some change a month for my family plan, ten dollar co pay and everything else is paid 100%. My union negotiated our insurance and we have given up some pay increases to get good affordable insurance. The point I am making is this. I KNOW I have a great plan but I also know others pay so much its almost unaffordable for them. That is the trouble its not Obamacare its not dem or republican its a social issue on all levels. Why was insurance so affordable to our parents generation and now its rising ten percent a year until no one can afford it? ..............and you wonder why it is so expensive for others! Unions are part of the Elite! Why is it so many Union members go blind and deaf?....Must be all that unnecessary protection they're paying top dollar for....Unions Mobs!.... What type of insurance do you have? Who pays your healthcare if you have it. I have BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee.... I self insure and have since I retired in 2001 at age 52....In February I will be 65....Yesterday I received a packet from The Department of Health & Human Services letting me know that I am now automatically enrolled in Medicare Part A and B....Part A (hospital insurance) is free, part B (medical insurance) will cost me $104.90 if I decide to buy it....Medicare also offers Parts C and D.....Part C is called Medicare Advantage Plans and the cost is not determined until you select a plan...Part C is Prescription drug coverage and its cost is not determined until you choose a plan.... Were your born with a silver spoon? Did you earn your silver spoon or marry in to it? Self insure is very expensive. Neither, I worked my azz off to secure my future....After I retired, rather than use the money in my IRA, I made a pretty decent living buying and selling real estate (flipping properties)....No silver spoon at birth, no rich husbands...Just hard work and plenty of it....Now can I ask you two questions?...Why do you assume the only way a woman can finance her own life is to be born with or marry money?.... Are you a male chauvinist pig?.... OHHHHH! And the lady scores a KO!

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Wed 10/16/13 09:42 AM
I pay 167 and some change a month for my family plan, ten dollar co pay and everything else is paid 100%. My union negotiated our insurance and we have given up some pay increases to get good affordable insurance. The point I am making is this. I KNOW I have a great plan but I also know others pay so much its almost unaffordable for them. That is the trouble its not Obamacare its not dem or republican its a social issue on all levels. Why was insurance so affordable to our parents generation and now its rising ten percent a year until no one can afford it? ..............and you wonder why it is so expensive for others! Unions are part of the Elite! Why is it so many Union members go blind and deaf?....Must be all that unnecessary protection they're paying top dollar for....Unions Mobs!.... What type of insurance do you have? Who pays your healthcare if you have it. I have BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee.... I self insure and have since I retired in 2001 at age 52....In February I will be 65....Yesterday I received a packet from The Department of Health & Human Services letting me know that I am now automatically enrolled in Medicare Part A and B....Part A (hospital insurance) is free, part B (medical insurance) will cost me $104.90 if I decide to buy it....Medicare also offers Parts C and D.....Part C is called Medicare Advantage Plans and the cost is not determined until you select a plan...Part C is Prescription drug coverage and its cost is not determined until you choose a plan.... Were your born with a silver spoon? Did you earn your silver spoon or marry in to it? Self insure is very expensive. Neither, I worked my azz off to secure my future....After I retired, rather than use the money in my IRA, I made a pretty decent living buying and selling real estate (flipping properties)....No silver spoon at birth, no rich husbands...Just hard work and plenty of it....Now can I ask you two questions?...Why do you assume the only way a woman can finance her own life is to be born with or marry money?.... Are you a male chauvinist pig?.... Silly I also asked you if you worked for it.......Did you find time to raise a family?

Leigh2154 Joined Sun 10/02/11 Posts: 16479	Wed 10/16/13 09:49 AM
I pay 167 and some change a month for my family plan, ten dollar co pay and everything else is paid 100%. My union negotiated our insurance and we have given up some pay increases to get good affordable insurance. The point I am making is this. I KNOW I have a great plan but I also know others pay so much its almost unaffordable for them. That is the trouble its not Obamacare its not dem or republican its a social issue on all levels. Why was insurance so affordable to our parents generation and now its rising ten percent a year until no one can afford it? ..............and you wonder why it is so expensive for others! Unions are part of the Elite! Why is it so many Union members go blind and deaf?....Must be all that unnecessary protection they're paying top dollar for....Unions Mobs!.... What type of insurance do you have? Who pays your healthcare if you have it. I have BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee.... I self insure and have since I retired in 2001 at age 52....In February I will be 65....Yesterday I received a packet from The Department of Health & Human Services letting me know that I am now automatically enrolled in Medicare Part A and B....Part A (hospital insurance) is free, part B (medical insurance) will cost me $104.90 if I decide to buy it....Medicare also offers Parts C and D.....Part C is called Medicare Advantage Plans and the cost is not determined until you select a plan...Part C is Prescription drug coverage and its cost is not determined until you choose a plan.... Were your born with a silver spoon? Did you earn your silver spoon or marry in to it? Self insure is very expensive. Neither, I worked my azz off to secure my future....After I retired, rather than use the money in my IRA, I made a pretty decent living buying and selling real estate (flipping properties)....No silver spoon at birth, no rich husbands...Just hard work and plenty of it....Now can I ask you two questions?...Why do you assume the only way a woman can finance her own life is to be born with or marry money?.... Are you a male chauvinist pig?.... Silly I also asked you if you worked for it.......Did you find time to raise a family? You still owe me an answer silly boy....And what you asked me was "did I earn my silver spoon"...According to my understanding of that expression, I don't have a silver spoon....Just a comfortable, middle class lifestyle which I did indeed earn...Now, are you a male chauvinist pig or not?