Gryphyn - Boy I'm glad I asked. White Buffalo Calf Women is the sacred bringer of the pipe to the Lakota. She taught the Lakota Sioux Indians how to pray. Therefore, her story/legend actually does belong in the religion section as part of the 7 sacred rites of the Lakota.

And if she posts it over there in the other section I might miss it.
I love the Indian stories and there way of conveying their stories in conjuction with the earth and all its glory. All life and wisdom.

I remember reading a thread about WICCANs. There was much talk and learning. Aren't they mostly joyful in their praises of the earth and all life and the likes of the sun and the moon and stars? Things that grow and die? Praising to nature and all things good. Hmmmmmmmmmm....

Kat

Hmmmm, Kat, as always good point you've hit on or at least caused to me pay attention to: The nature aspect can be incorporated into many different religions is what I'm thinkin'. When I do post Lakota beliefs, I'll try to get it under a name so people know what it is and that way nobody'll miss it. If I can come up with a poem about it, I'll post that the same time too in poetry then both sections can be covered without double posts.

ok guys, this is my thread and if she wants to post stories that are nature related that is fine, if u dont like it please go else where, do not post threads to complain about what another person wrote. this is not the place for that...this is a place for Wiccan/Pagan conversations, nature is part of Wicca, a big part as it is with most "Pagan" religions...thats all hope all of you are enjoying this thread. Feel free to post any spells, incantations, or anything else u want to here. also feel free to share stories as well...

My ex-g/f and I had religious issues ..

I knew I was God, and she disagreed!

p.s. Remember Buddah was a god too!

hey duncan,i'd like to get down to the root of ya...

nothing better than a good root!

ivory white hard head christian male rules right?as a man i would imagine is what god created daddy for unything less your just a punk.so i wrote the christianwhitemensoeganization.com web site.

anything but a punk has to be man

Belushi thinks he’s god. His girlfriend thinks he’s odd. But we all know it’s just a show of supernatural façade.

Jax is in pursuit of this godhead with a root. Seething with temptation to grab hold of his foundation and participate in acts of ill-repute.

The shamelessness of human kind exposing what goes through their mind when their thinking’s unrefined.

And so it goes for all of those who seek repose from heads to toes in nothing more than birthday clothes.

Actually, I haven't been able to find any description of Buddha as a God just an "enlightened one" or "awakened one".

Believe it or not... this type of stuff is my specialty.

No.. there is no pantheon where Buddha is looked at as a God. An Enlightened Being, to be worshipped & to strive to emmulate.

I am a non-denomination minister.. and have personally studies & first hand experienced a HUGE majority of the various cultures, religions, belief systems & pantheons. I have taught classes regardingthese areas/topics... including Wicca.

Blessings~!

Wench wrote:
<<<Actually, I haven't been able to find any description of Buddha as a God just an "enlightened one" or "awakened one".>>>

This all depends on your definition of the word “god”.

In Buddhism there is no ‘godhead’ as in the Christian understanding of the word. In fact, getting past the very notion of labels is a large part of what it means to become enlightened.

Many people completely misunderstand what it means to become enlightened. They think that to becoming enlightened will in some way change the fundamental nature of what they are. This is not so. When a person becomes enlightened they simply view the world differently and therefore judge their experiences differently. If a person judges their experiences differently then they actually perceive them differently as well. Nothing has changed yet everything has changed.

To believe that a “god” exists is to believe in a word.

To understand the nature of existence is to know god.

To know god is to be god.

In this way an enlightened person becomes “god”.

However, this is an entirely different concept than most western people associate with the word “god”

This is why many people who understand Buddhism, Taoism, mysticism and various other forms of pantheism prefer not to use the word ‘god’ at all.

However some people, like myself, do use it for the purpose of communication, and for trying to help people “know” god even though god is not a ‘godhead’ like they may have originally imagined.

I will confess though that it doesn’t work very well with people who hold a strongly Christian view of a godhead. They can’t get that picture of an external authoritarian type of god out of their head and so they try to incorporate that in to their perception of “god”.

But that’s really just a western contamination of the label.

So when you say that Buddha wasn’t ‘god’ you need to qualify what you mean by the word “god”. Buddha most certainly was not the “God of Abraham”. That’s for sure. But there can be no doubt that Buddha was, in fact, a consciousness of this universe. For a pantheist, that is ‘god’. And Buddhism does have a pantheistic nature to it.

In other words, everyone is god. Buddha simply realized this. He’s not the only one to do this by far. There are actually quite a few people on this very forum who are every bit as enlightened as Buddha was. They fully understand that they are a wave in the ocean of the cosmos. And it is this endless eternal ocean of life that is ‘god’ if you insist on putting a label on it. But it’s not the kind of authoritarian judgmental deity that Abraham imagined to exist.

In other words, semantics is semantics and existence is existence.

I follow the druid beliefs. Nature and man in harmony with the Gods.

Anyone have an incantation or medicinal potion to help with severe COPD?


:tries not to sound like Darth Vader whilst asking:

Abra COPD??? is that like a strep throat? i am not sure what it means...but a brew of saage, fresh picked...and boilig water poured over it, then when tea is cooled...gargle with it...

and of course nature's antibiotic..honey..straight from a hive, a beekeeper..not processed in the jar on the shelf honey, is great a teaspoons a couple of times a day.

sorry for the typos, I didnt check...*sage...*boiling

COPD stands for chronic obstructive pulmonary disease - in plain English lungs are clogged and really hard to breathe - what exactly they're clogged with, though, I don't know, fluid, mucous, what.

Oh, and thanks for the clarification on the "god" business, Abra. Now it makes more sense.

Ahhh, thanks Wench So a steam bath, a bowl, sage leaves, and boiling water, and a towel, and place the towel over your head as you inhale the staem.