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Why is the fish symbol considered by many a pagan symbol?
I thought it represents Christianity. Fisher of men. I don't look at it as an idol...hmmmmm.... |
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WELL BEING A FISH MYSELF
THIS IS A TRICKY QUESTION I JUST HAD 2 VERY LARGE KOI'S TATTOOED ON ME BECAUSE IM A PIECES I BELEIVE IN YIN AND YANG MOSTLY IF YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS |
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Uhmm if it is pagan, then why do the churches and stuff always have
those fish thingys on their cars, checks, mailboxes etc.??? |
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whats with all this devil stuff????
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he's thinking of going to the dark side lol
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It is a Christian symbol mostly used by Born Again Christians it shows
up in most not all Christian teaching. I don't remember if it's used in the bible Would need to do some research |
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I haven't been to Church for years but I do know this one. LOL
The fish symbol comes from Rome, it was illigal to be a Christian and they were persecuted. The local Christians had to have symbols or their faith so they could recognize each other. The fish was one of the main ones, I think because Jesus was a fisherman. |
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Fish feed us all who consume it,as does Jesus...M.
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"I think because Jesus was a fisherman."
I thought he was a carpenter? Unless you are refering to him as a fisherman of men. I wonder if he would have been on the TV series of This Old House? LOL |
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Arent the fish symbols with the feet the ones considered the non
christian one? At least thats what i was told...I could be wrong or just dumb lol |
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One version is supposedly representative of Darwinism. The one used by
Christians has, according to my research, been because he was alledgedly able to multiply fish and loaves iof bread to feed the poor and hungry. There is biblical reference but not being Christian I cannot recall the exact biblical scripture on it. Hope that answers it for you. |
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BECOUSE THE CHICKEN JUST DIDNT LOOK RIGHT!.. LOL!
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4fun.
What do you mean, choking the chicken don't look right? LOL! |
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I believe the word you've each been struggling to find is Ichthys. The
ichthys came about in in the early Roman Empire (not to be confused with the Holy Roman Empire), and was used as sort of a Christian symbol to indicate that a meeting, congregation, et cetera was being held. This was when Rome was still using Roman gods and so the Christians sought to protect themselves. It may be confused with paganism because pagans worship nature and using the fish as a symbol may have been confused with worshipping actual fish, as though they were devine. |
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first of all.. paganism is not devil worshpping--- i dunno if that was a
joke or not--- if it was.. it wasn't funny.. the fish was used much earlier than christianity it has symbolic representation for many of the stories like say aphrodite.. tigrata ( sp) and some others.. it was representation for reincarnation and in some languages it literally meant womb, hence it took on the symbolicness of the woman and the womb the ability for reincarnation from births it also was a key symbol for like fertility with venus.. it has so many meanings it would be impossible to say, it also since it was recognized by pagans and other orders, it stood as a symbol for their communities, say they were having a meeting or something and they didn't want to draw attention to it you can simply draw the fish, just like say today there are flags for the BDSM or leather societies andt hey are placed sometimes above bars and if you didn't know what they meant you probably wouldnt' even recognize them, the fish served this purpose for the pagan community as well... of course like many symbols that represented the mother goddess christianity either adapts it or makes it evil, like the pitch fork in paganism, the witches hat, the pentagram, etc... like wise with holidays like easter and the combination of the holiday with goddess ester which is why there are bunnies and eggs to symbolize fertility, or christmas is celebrited on the wrong days it isn't when jesus is born at all, but it was placed there to be in with the pagan holidays.. so.. yeah |
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Ichthys means fish. It was used to represent the mother Goddess. Early
Christians adapted it into an acronym representing their faith. I is the first letter of the word Iesous (Ιησους), Greek for Jesus. CH are the first letters (in Greek one letter) of the word Christos (Χριστóς), Greek for Christ. TH are the first letters (in Greek one letter) of the word THeou (Θεοῦ), genetive case of Θεóς, Greek for God. Y is the first letter for Yios (Υἱός), Greek for Son. S is the first letter for Soter (Σωτήρ), Greek for Savior. During the early Church, Christians were persecuted violently. So they used an appearantly pagan image to hide the fact that the place was a meeting place for Christians. |
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the fish symbol first appears in Sumerian symbols...
long before the bible... Those who came from heaven and started that civilization first landed in the sea... google sumeria |
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It was also used by many Free Masons, for the same reason it was used in
early Christian times. Free Masons were a persecuted group and had to meet in secret, in fact they had a whole secret society. Many of America's founding fathers were Free Masons. |
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I think that it was orgianally meant to be a symbol.
From jesus teachings to be a fisher of men. |
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I'm not sure how far back the tradition was used before Christianity .
. . but I do know it was used especially during the time of Nero to secretly meet and identify other Christians. It was used to designate meeting places or in conversation one person would casually draw an arc in the sand with their foot. The other would complete the fish and quick erase it. |
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