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I was wondering what your topic was all about when you put it as "Are morales real?" Had me expecting you were questioning if morality still existed or something like that. Personally I do have morales. Like don't steal, cheat, murder, lie and other such things. I was raised in a very religious family and it has had a very strong effect on my moral code. I was religious as a child. but being treated like **** by so many people who I went to church with, people my age or close to it. I eventually got sick of their hypocrisy and stopped going to church. I haven't been to church since and I can't say I feel any different now then I did then. I have never felt like I was in a holy place either in a temple or a church. Place are pretty and that is all they are. My moral code is not set in stone. I am a realistic person and as I learn more about people and that not everything that works for one person works for another. Like not everyone can live a life of being married with one person. Some people can have multiple lovers and not be bothered by it. Even watching their lover be with another person. I try not to judge people for wanting things that I don't want unless it's destructive to others. Like I hate, loath, detest pedophiles. I think they should be executed.Strong feelings perhaps. But I don't see that obvious pedophiles are ever going to stop doing what they do. Unless one happens to marry a person who acts and sounds like a child. But even then they are likely to abuse the children they have. It is simply the way they are wired.   good to hear from you! I totally agree on the church thing. church is where ever you are when you feel close to god, or your spiritual self. I had a good friend tho who is a priest explain to me one time tho that yes, people in churches are hypocritical sometimes and that is because they are human. they are in church to improve the same way a sick person goes to the DR to get well. so I thought that was pretty cool as far as explanations go. still, when I do go to a church (which I haven't for years) I spend most of my time staring at the stained glass windows in awe of their beauty and selsdom hear sermons at all. embarrassing, a little, when someone asks what I thought of it (the sermon) lol as far as your question about the title. it really is not meant to be cryptic. when I ask if morals are real, I guess I am asking if folks do take them seriously any more. sometimes the world we live in seems very ammoral.....like sometimes folk will only do the "right" thing if it will benefit them in some way, or if they will be penalized if they don;t....very low level thought in my judgement There are always going to be those people who are selfish and only do things if they see a reward or have other motives. They have always been around and always will be. Don't let the bad ruin your opinion of those who are good. The idea of someone going to church to get well sounds good. But as I have stated in other places. The man makes the church. The church does not make the man. If the person is just simply bad then then no amount of going to church is going to change that. J. Golden Kimball, a leader in the Mormon church, once said something to the extent of you can baptize an evil person over and over again and it won't make any difference, unless you keep him under. If you want to learn about a very entertaining person. I would suggest researching him. hahaha seems some good advice in there. Yes, church is a construct of man, not god. Jesus said where ever 2 or more of you gather in my name, there is love. I see no catherdral required there..lol. I am not especially interested in the mormom church...good grief I have enough christian sects in my background....I am really not looking to add to that list. nonetheless thank you for the suggestion as, who knows, I may at some future time want the info, or someone else on here may benefit!  I wasn't suggesting you read about Golden to learn about the church. But because he is a funny guy to learn about. He was constantly getting in trouble because of swearing and basically speaking his mind. He was a very interesting and funny guy. |
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1Cynderella
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Sun 09/01/13 11:13 PM
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I don't have a "written in stone" type of moral code. I operate more on a moral compass based on what I feel seems right and honorable to ME, then I hold myself to those standards and behaviors and strive to afford others the same. I think everything and everyone I've been exposed to throughout my entire life, good and bad examples both, have played a part in forming my ideals. yes! marvelous observation! Where does your compass come from...do you think it's inherent? ( kind of a nature vs nurture question) I feel that my own moral compass is based mostly on my conscious efforts to become the person I want to be than anything else. Or in other words, it's based on my personality, which I believe to be partly inherent and partly learned from studying other's behaviors while developing into the person I chose to become. uh huh....don't give me that moral compass stuff girl....you just whisked that football out from under charlie brown AGAIN>>>   lol he's such a sucka I have no defense. I get Chuck on his back every time.  But I must be doing something right...he always comes back for more. 
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I came to the conclusion long ago, that it (Life) seems to work out best if one is an objective nihilist; baring that, subjective is also ok. One can sum it up as live and let die.  what is the difference between a subjective nilihist and an objective nilihist? how long ago ...like last week or in a previous milenium....I mean that is kinda relative...lol Subjective nihilism is of a personal choice, sometimes based on pre existing bias/ prejudice; Objective is simply taking a larger view of what choices there are to rejecting any type of moralistic viewpoint/ stand; an asymmetric point of view/ interpretation. By the time I was 18 I was a committed nihilist towards most things; beliefs that are run-of-the mill dull, boring, pretentious and what Mr. and Mrs. Joe Sixpak believed in, like Mom, Apple pie and all the rest of what to me were 'bourgeois trailer park morality and beliefs; this .of course led directly to my embracing the anarchist's outlook. I was 'free at last'! Thank you for the flower(blush) same to you gurl you are most welcome....I am a mom/apple pie type tho :) but no trailer parks tho  here ya go...getcha blushing now   I fine it amusing that a nilhilist blushes That is purely a subjective personal condition; I rarely ever hear anything positive or nice from a female... You're a mom/apple pie type?!? Are you complaining or bragging??? To me, 'moms in North America seem mostly clueless airheads, no matter how many kids they produce or they're 'screaming mimies' always screaming at their children...apple pie...ewww, so droll, so plain, like as about as exciting as vanilla ice cream; put a pint of rum or bourbon into the pie at the very least! same to you!
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Morals and religion are separate, like church and state!
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Morals and religion are separate, like church and state! I totally agree |
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