Topic: WHY GUN CONTROL IS BAD
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Tue 08/27/13 05:34 PM

krupa's photo
Tue 08/27/13 05:44 PM
If you copying and pasting convienient crap to make you feel better about arguing to the Internet makes you feel better...fine...go for it.

It wont change the fact that John is a good man..

It doesn't require your approval.

Nor mine.

What I do remember is how ugly you treated me ....we got past that...but it don't mean I will allow you to talk down on good people.

Copy and paste more crap...it is just another person...always right...as long as they are hidding and mouthing.

When you guys really want to change things...and gain my support...run for office..I will vote for you.

Until that day comes..it is only more Internet losers who talk a good game...but don't actually do anything.

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Tue 08/27/13 05:55 PM

Sure, John is 'cool.' He won't click on any links to information, he won't check it out himself.

This is what he said:

Gun control was established in the 30's In Canada
No exterminations yet.... stop being so paranoid ffs


As early as November, 1907, the Canadian press was acknowledging that the death rate within Indian residential schools exceeded 50%. And yet the reality of such a massacre has been wiped clean from public record and consciousness in Canada over the past decades. Small wonder; for that hidden history reveals a system whose aim was to destroy most native people by disease, relocation and outright murder, while assimilating a minority of collaborators who were trained to serve the genocidal system.

This history of purposeful genocide implicates every level of government in Canada, the RCMP, every mainline church, large corporations, the local police, doctors and judges.

The web of complicity in this killing machine was, and remains, so vast that its concealment has required an equally elaborate campaign of cover-up that is continuing especially now that eyewitnesses to murders and atrocities at the church run native residential “schools” have come forward for the first time. For it was the residential “schools” that constituted the death camps of the Canadian Holocaust, and with their walls nearly one-half of all aboriginal children sent there by law, died, or disappeared, according to the government’s OWN STATISTICS.

So do a little research on this, this is your country.

Or are you just another complicit holocaust denier?






Thanks, Ms JB

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Tue 08/27/13 05:56 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 08/27/13 06:00 PM

If you copying and pasting convienient crap to make you feel better about arguing to the Internet makes you feel better...fine...go for it.

It wont change the fact that John is a good man..

It doesn't require your approval.

Nor mine.

What I do remember is how ugly you treated me ....we got past that...but it don't mean I will allow you to talk down on good people.

Copy and paste more crap...it is just another person...always right...as long as they are hidding and mouthing.

When you guys really want to change things...and gain my support...run for office..I will vote for you.

Until that day comes..it is only more Internet losers who talk a good game...but don't actually do anything.



I actually had to type that myself because the pdf would not allow any copy and paste.

I am not saying that John is not a good man. I argue with good men and good women all the time.

He claims there have been no extermination in Canada. He is wrong.

He has his head in the sand like so many other Canadians (and Americans)

At least Americans KNOW and admit what they did to the native Americans here.

Canada is still covering up their past. Probably because it is more recent than they want to acknowledge.

I am not blaming John or anyone for the exterminations. But he made the claim there were no exterminations and he refused to follow any links I offered, so he does not want to even peek at the possibility of genocide in Canada.

It has nothing to do with whether he is a good man. I'm sure he is. Peace loving, anti-gun, etc.

(Governor Hickenlooper of Colorado is a "good man." But he is a bad governor.)

PS:

This has ALWAYS been about the topic anyway... not about John111.












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Tue 08/27/13 06:01 PM
When you guys really want to change things...and gain my support...run for office..I will vote for you.

Until that day comes..it is only more Internet losers who talk a good game...but don't actually do anything.



Spreading the truth IS doing something.




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Tue 08/27/13 06:08 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 08/27/13 06:10 PM
I do remember is how ugly you treated me ....we got past that...but it don't mean I will allow you to talk down on good people.


You gave a bad first impression as being very disrespectful of women. Yes, I may have gotten ugly.

But you seem like a great guy, and John is a good guy I am sure.

But I don't see how presenting my argument against his claim is "talking down to him."

I'm am sorry if it seemed personal. It wasn't. I am just very passionate about genocide and mass extermination of people.

It is a world wide on going policy of certain elite families --and I'm sick of it.

I have a good friend whose has the job of sifting through mass graves and trying to identify the dead. Talk about a depressing job... damn.






msharmony's photo
Tue 08/27/13 06:14 PM
so,,,,regulation of guns,,, BAD

regulation of voting,,,,GOOD


,,,interesting

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Tue 08/27/13 06:15 PM
Edited by willing2 on Tue 08/27/13 06:17 PM
No, Hoserville ain't clean as a whistle.

Slavery in Canada
Published by Sherol on August 14, 2010 | 2 Comments

Black people have lived in Canada since the beginnings of transatlantic settlement. A few came as explorers, more came as slaves in the 17th and 18th centuries, still more as former American slaves fleeing to Canada between 1783 and 1865, and since then as free immigrants from the United States, the West Indies, and Africa.

Until the 1980s very few came directly from their ancestral continent, yet the label African Canadian is being used increasingly to include all Canadians of African descent, wherever they were born. In the 1996 census, African Canadians composed about 2 percent of the total Canadian population.

Africans participated in many of the earliest voyages to the territory now known as Canada. A legend persists that one of Jacques Cartier’s crew members came originally from Africa, though the first name on record is that of Mathieu de Coste (or da Costa) who served the governor of Acadia in 1608 as an interpreter to the Micmac Nation.

The first slave transported directly from Africa to Canada was a child brought to Quebec in 1628 by the English invader David Kirke, and sold to a local resident on Kirke’s departure in 1629. The child was baptized in May 1633 as Olivier Le Jeune, and died in 1654 while still a young man. Between 1628 and the British Conquest in 1759, 1132 slaves of African origin were brought to New France. Governor Denonville sought permission to establish a trade in African slaves in 1688, but royal permission was denied and so there was never any direct importation from Africa.

Most of the Africans came from the British colonies in North America or from the French West Indies. About 60 percent of the imported slaves were male and 40 percent female, and almost all of them were located in urban centers as domestic servants. Usually they were owned singly or in very small numbers, and most served the same family throughout their lives.

Black slaves lived in the British regions of Canada in the 17th and 18th centuries — 104 were listed in a 1767 census of Nova Scotia — but their numbers were small until the Loyalist influx after 1783. As white Loyalists fled the new American Republic, they took with them about 2000 black slaves: 1200 to the Maritimes (Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island), 300 to Lower Canada (Quebec), and 500 to Upper Canada (Ontario). As in New France, Loyalist slaves were held in small numbers and were employed as domestic servants, farm hands, and skilled artisans.

The system of gang labor, and its consequent institutions of control and brutality, did not develop in Canada. Because they did not appear to pose a threat to their masters, slaves were permitted to learn to read and write, Christian conversion was encouraged, and their marriages were recognized by law. In 1793 Upper Canada became the first territory in the British Empire to legislate the gradual abolition of slavery.

By 1800 the other provinces of British North America had effectively limited slavery through court decisions requiring the strictest proof of ownership, which was rarely available. Slavery remained legal, however, until the British Parliament emancipated slaves throughout the empire effective August 1, 1834.

willing2's photo
Tue 08/27/13 06:16 PM

so,,,,Barry snatching guns,,, BAD

regulation of voting,,,,GOOD


,,,interesting

Fixed
You're welcome.

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Tue 08/27/13 06:31 PM


so,,,,Barry snatching guns,,, BAD

regulation of voting,,,,GOOD


,,,interesting

Fixed
You're welcome.


laugh laugh

I like the edit.

Traumer's photo
Tue 08/27/13 07:02 PM
Edited by Traumer on Tue 08/27/13 07:05 PM

I notice that JOHNN111 has not responded to my post and link to documentation concerning the extermination of Canadian natives.
http://canadiangenocide.nativeweb.org/genocide.pdf



GENOCIDE IS ALIVE AND WELL AND ON GOING IN THIS WORLD.

I suspect aliens are behind it.





Very Good! Delighted that you posted this.
This is also a continuation of the US Govt.'s plan of genocide toward the Native "Americans" began in earnest after the Louisiana Purchase culminating in the Ogala Sioux uprising at Wounded Knee on Feb. 27, 1973. Many sympathetic whites also came to stand with them and Russell Means. Many expressed their hatred of the US Govt. over the Federal attitude of always regarding non-whites but especially natives as 'fair game' to be shot down,"like varmints". Canada never initiates anything on it's own but merely copies what Washington does, says, etc. It stands just as guilty of as the UN put in it's initial report on Native peoples, "crimes against humanity".
Both occasions, in 1973 and in 1994 gave us hope to continue fighting for what we perceive as Justice and do what we could.
Damn shame they could not hold Canada and the US responsible and force changes in their domestic policies then, and now especially over the continuing policies of flooding the reservations with liquor and ensuring sub-standard housing and schooling and endemic poverty. Policies that are reminiscent of the present day conditions in still occupied Iraq and in the US approved regime of ***-kissing puppets in Kabul. Perhaps The US can bring a similar "civilization" to Syria after it eventually bombs that country back to the proverbial 'stone Age' in their upcoming newest crusade...

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Tue 08/27/13 07:19 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 08/27/13 07:22 PM
I am sure the Syrian government is NOT behind the chemical weapons bombing. NWO cabal backed rebels are. (Mercs and paid 'terrorists')

In fact, if I could go back a long way into my own posts here on mingle where I revealed the entire plan way back then (and was ridiculed for my "conspiracy theory.")

It would have happened before this except that China and Russia are standing up for Syria. They still are -- and have said that if this attack goes down, there will be "catastrophic consequences."

Israel said: We are ready for them. (WHAT??)

Zionist leaders are behind this. They want (and have always wanted) an all out blood bath in the middle east. The Zionist leaders of Israel will abandon the Jewish and Israeli people to this major blood bath. They have established their stronghold in America. They don't care about Israel or the people who live there. They will have fled long before it happens. They probably already have done so.

America seems to be the pawn of Israel(Zionist Israel) in this war.

When are people going to wake up?




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Tue 08/27/13 08:31 PM

I notice that JOHNN111 has not responded to my post and link to documentation concerning the extermination of Canadian natives.
http://canadiangenocide.nativeweb.org/genocide.pdf



GENOCIDE IS ALIVE AND WELL AND ON GOING IN THIS WORLD.

I suspect aliens are behind it.






1... When copy / pasting a document as proof of your point of view .... shouldn't alter it to fit what you want. That document is not classified.

2... The only thing ongoing in the matter of residential schools is the investigation. The last of the residential schools was shut down in 1996.

3... The US is still doing it and holding natives as political prisoners.

4... Don't start on me as a typical "holier than thou" Canadian. I am a member of the NRA and of the NFA (National Firearms Association).

5... Fact remains that if SOME of the gun control policies here were enacted in US then the majority of the mass shootings, perpetrated with legally owned weapons, would not have happened. I have previosly posted on this in another gun control thread.


6 Gun Control = Being able to know when to use firearm and hitting what you aim at. Examples:

Four teens on a crime spree forced their way into the home of 72-year-old Morris Reaves. Two of the teens wore ski masks and one wielded a rifle. Reaves heard the break-in take place and met the youths with his own firearm. Reaves fired two shots at the intruders causing them to flee to a nearby car and drive away. The four suspects were later identified from images taken by Reaves' security camera. They were each arrested and charged with one felony count of kidnapping, robbery with a dangerous weapon, conspiracy to commit burglary, breaking and entering a motor vehicle, larceny after breaking and entering, and misdemeanor assault by pointing a gun. Reaves was not injured during the home invasion. (The Charlotte Observer, Lenoir, NC, 5/20/13)
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A Fayette County man accused of trying to burglarize a home was held at gunpoint by a neighbor until deputies arrived. The Fayette deputies received a call from a neighbor who said her husband had armed himself with a handgun and gone to the nearby house to confront burglars and hold them until police arrived. Deputies arrived 12 minutes later and found the husband detaining the two intruders. The neighbor said he had been working in his garden when he saw the intruders going into the house. The house, which was unoccupied and under renovation, was not locked and they entered through the front door looking for wiring, according to deputies. (Charleston Daily Mail, Charleston, WV, 6/17/13)
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From The Armed Citizen Archives
February 1978: Awakened by her 11-year-old daughter's cries for help, Elizabeth Williams of Birmingham, Ala., investigated and found a burglar inside her home. While scuffling with the intruder, she called out to the child to notify police and get a gun. When the little girl did so, the robber attempted to escape. As he headed for the back door, Mrs. Williams fired twice, wounding the man, then held him until police arrived. (The Post-Herald, Birmingham, Ala.)

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Tue 08/27/13 08:49 PM


Gun control was established in the 30's In Canada

No exterminations yet:thumbsup: stop being so paranoid ffs laugh


Nobody lives in Canada.

Except bears and cougars.


Hey; just because I am old; that doesn't make me a cougar. laugh

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Tue 08/27/13 08:51 PM

so,,,,regulation of guns,,, BAD

regulation of voting,,,,GOOD


,,,interesting


seems to make the most sense to me...

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Tue 08/27/13 09:14 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 08/27/13 09:15 PM


I notice that JOHNN111 has not responded to my post and link to documentation concerning the extermination of Canadian natives.
http://canadiangenocide.nativeweb.org/genocide.pdf



GENOCIDE IS ALIVE AND WELL AND ON GOING IN THIS WORLD.

I suspect aliens are behind it.






1... When copy / pasting a document as proof of your point of view .... shouldn't alter it to fit what you want. That document is not classified.



The document was not altered.

I know its not 'classified.' I put a link to the document in this thread.

The pictures above are separate .jpg pictures. The "classified" picture was a joke about the aliens being behind it.... so relax.



2... The only thing ongoing in the matter of residential schools is the investigation. The last of the residential schools was shut down in 1996.

3... The US is still doing it and holding natives as political prisoners.

4... Don't start on me as a typical "holier than thou" Canadian. I am a member of the NRA and of the NFA (National Firearms Association).



I never used the term "holier than thou" Canadian. You are confusing me with someone else.





5... Fact remains that if SOME of the gun control policies here were enacted in US then the majority of the mass shootings, perpetrated with legally owned weapons, would not have happened. I have previosly posted on this in another gun control thread.


I don't think you can know that. Criminals don't obey "gun control laws" and besides, if they didn't have guns, they would find something else like bombs if they wanted to reek havoc.


6 Gun Control = Being able to know when to use firearm and hitting what you aim at. Examples:

Four teens on a crime spree forced their way into the home of 72-year-old Morris Reaves. Two of the teens wore ski masks and one wielded a rifle. Reaves heard the break-in take place and met the youths with his own firearm. Reaves fired two shots at the intruders causing them to flee to a nearby car and drive away. The four suspects were later identified from images taken by Reaves' security camera. They were each arrested and charged with one felony count of kidnapping, robbery with a dangerous weapon, conspiracy to commit burglary, breaking and entering a motor vehicle, larceny after breaking and entering, and misdemeanor assault by pointing a gun. Reaves was not injured during the home invasion. (The Charlotte Observer, Lenoir, NC, 5/20/13)
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A Fayette County man accused of trying to burglarize a home was held at gunpoint by a neighbor until deputies arrived. The Fayette deputies received a call from a neighbor who said her husband had armed himself with a handgun and gone to the nearby house to confront burglars and hold them until police arrived. Deputies arrived 12 minutes later and found the husband detaining the two intruders. The neighbor said he had been working in his garden when he saw the intruders going into the house. The house, which was unoccupied and under renovation, was not locked and they entered through the front door looking for wiring, according to deputies. (Charleston Daily Mail, Charleston, WV, 6/17/13)
...............
From The Armed Citizen Archives
February 1978: Awakened by her 11-year-old daughter's cries for help, Elizabeth Williams of Birmingham, Ala., investigated and found a burglar inside her home. While scuffling with the intruder, she called out to the child to notify police and get a gun. When the little girl did so, the robber attempted to escape. As he headed for the back door, Mrs. Williams fired twice, wounding the man, then held him until police arrived. (The Post-Herald, Birmingham, Ala.)




Wonderful. drinker

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Tue 08/27/13 09:15 PM

1. In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915-1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves against their ethnic-cleansing government, were arrested and exterminated.

2. In 1929, the former Soviet Union established gun control as a means of controlling the “more difficult” of their citizens. From 1929 to the death of Stalin, 40 million Soviets met an untimely end at the hand of various governmental agencies as they were arrested and exterminated.

3. After the rise of the Nazi’s, Germany established their version of gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally ill, and others, who were unable to defend themselves against the “Brown Shirts”, were arrested and exterminated.

Interestingly, the Brown Shirts were eventually targeted for extermination themselves following their blind acts of allegiance to Hitler. Any American military and police would be wise to grasp the historical significance of the Brown Shirts’ fate.

4. After Communist China established gun control in 1935, an estimated 50 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves against their fascist leaders, were arrested and exterminated.

5. Closer to home, Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayans, unable to defend themselves against their ruthless dictatorship, were arrested and exterminated.
6. Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves from their dictatorial government, were arrested and exterminated.

7. Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million of the “educated” people, unable to defend themselves against their fascist government, were arrested and exterminated.

8. In 1994, Rwanda disarmed the Tutsi people and being unable to defend themselves from their totalitarian government, nearly one million were summarily executed.

But it could never happen here.... right?

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/04/06/why-gun-control-is-bad-for-america/


You need a valid ID to drive a car, get on an airplane, get on a boat, see a doctor, get a RX, guy a weapon, buy alcohol, buy tobacco, buy regular movies, buy cd's basically for everything it only makes sense to have it to vote.

The only people who argue against it are the ones who want to exploit it.

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Tue 08/27/13 09:17 PM


lol.. Canadians have this "holier than tho" attitude... i guess they think that there was no Indians in Canada, only in America...whoa


both countries displaced and murdered the natives, but the Canadians don't seem to remember that...



Moe, W2, Lonely ... Come on guys Seriously,
slaves? Indians? Stepping In?

This thread is about gun control and how things need to change and i'm not seeing anything you wrote address the real issue. That's a American Thang I've dealt on here before... Bob & weave eh? it's annoying

You're way doesn't work!
Stand all proud... wait for the boogyman government to come get you, while your own blood, pucks you up... it's ridiculous


even disregarding Jeanne's questionable hysteria ....ummm.... I mean history lesson....if our government or any of the governments she named, wants to exterminate you....a couple glocks and Winchesters from that there kitchen cabinet ain't gonna stop 'em

hell folks they bombed a daggone hood in philly where I grew up

all the sat. night specials hidden under matresses in the ghetto didn't stop 'em on that day...lol

irrespective of your opinion on gun control....the US Govt does not need gun control ...if they comin' they comin as one big army



gun control is for people like me who'd like to see my children safe in their school where no "crazzzzie azzholes who got mama's gun cuz that woman be half crazy too" is gonna come shoot up the classroom

cus they be some CRAZY SHYTE....nuff said

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Tue 08/27/13 09:17 PM
Lpdon you must be in the wrong thread. No one is talking about having a valid id to vote...

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Tue 08/27/13 09:21 PM
Edited by karmafury on Tue 08/27/13 09:38 PM


5... Fact remains that if SOME of the gun control policies here were enacted in US then the majority of the mass shootings, perpetrated with legally owned weapons, would not have happened. I have previosly posted on this in another gun control thread.


I don't think you can know that. Criminals don't obey "gun control laws" and besides, if they didn't have guns, they would find something else like bombs if they wanted to reek havoc.




Link to above image (sorry didn't get it bigger): https://www.impartial-review.com/stories/would-canadian-laws-prevent-mass-murders-in-the-us