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| Topic: Barack Obama: The Ghost of Columbia University | |
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he's hiding the fact that occidental and columbia were both paid for by a foreign student visa... our president, the cheat and liar... Let's see your proof. |
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he's hiding the fact that occidental and columbia were both paid for by a foreign student visa... our president, the cheat and liar... You mean these could have exposed him as a foreigner or if not a foreigner then, a liar? |
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could have but wont
fact 1. only citizens/permanent residents are eligible for us student loans fact 2. foreign student aid is not accessible to citizens/permanent residents fact 3. In August 2010, a jury in Iowa city found Sandra Teague guilty of accessing then-Senator Barack Obama's student loan records on August 27, 2008. Teague worked with the National Student Loan Data System as a contractor for Vangent, Inc. he couldn't be BOTH in the NSLDS and a foreign student,, its more of the never ending and un ending unsubstantiated rumor mill surrounding the 'mystery' of our president |
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Don't know. I'm sure most would have done so if asked. How many were asked but would not do so? You think it's uncommon for a President to keep their records sealed, but you don't know how many have kept their records sealed? Why not find out and let us know? Saying that you're sure most would have done so if asked means nothing. How are you doing on finding out which Presidents showed their school records? |
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Obama's college records are sealed like mine are sealed.  Fact Check: "Obama’s college records are not “sealed” by a court order. It would be illegal under federal law (the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974) for Occidental, Columbia or Harvard Law School to give any former student’s records to reporters or members of the public without that person’s specific, written permission. Obama hasn’t released them, but neither have other presidential candidates released their college records. George W. Bush’s grades at Yale eventually became public, but only because somebody leaked them to the New Yorker magazine. Bush himself refused to release them, according to a 1999 profile in the Washington Post." They aren't sealed. "Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974" |
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Obama's first act as President EXECUTIVE ORDER 13489 banning release of any of his records
Fewderation of American Scientists ^ Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:19:37 AM by kaizen THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary For Immediate Release January 21, 2009 EXECUTIVE ORDER 13489 - - - - - - - PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to establish policies and procedures governing the assertion of executive privilege by incumbent and former Presidents in connection with the release of Presidential records by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) pursuant to the Presidential Records Act of 1978, it is hereby ordered as follows: Section 1. Definitions. For purposes of this order: (a) "Archivist" refers to the Archivist of the United States or his designee. (b) "NARA" refers to the National Archives and Records Administration. (c) "Presidential Records Act" refers to the Presidential Records Act, 44 U.S.C. 2201-2207. (d) "NARA regulations" refers to the NARA regulations implementing the Presidential Records Act, 36 C.F.R. Part 1270. (e) "Presidential records" refers to those documentary materials maintained by NARA pursuant to the Presidential Records Act, including Vice Presidential records. (f) "Former President" refers to the former President during whose term or terms of office particular Presidential records were created. (g) A "substantial question of executive privilege" exists if NARA's disclosure of Presidential records might impair national security (including the conduct of foreign relations), law enforcement, or the deliberative processes of the executive branch. (h) A "final court order" is a court order from which no appeal may be taken. Sec. 2. Notice of Intent to Disclose Presidential Records. (a) When the Archivist provides notice to the incumbent and former Presidents of his intent to disclose Presidential records pursuant to section 1270.46 of the NARA regulations, the Archivist, using any guidelines provided by the incumbent and former Presidents, shall identify any specific materials, the disclosure of which he believes may raise a substantial question of executive privilege. However, nothing in this order is intended to affect the right of the incumbent or former Presidents to invoke executive privilege with respect to materials not identified by the Archivist. Copies of the notice for the incumbent President shall be delivered to the President (through the Counsel to the President) and the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel). The copy of the notice for the former President shall be delivered to the former President or his designated representative. (b) Upon the passage of 30 days after receipt by the incumbent and former Presidents of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records, the Archivist may disclose the records covered by the notice, unless during that time period the Archivist has received a claim of executive privilege by the incumbent or former President or the Archivist has been instructed by the incumbent President or his designee to extend the time period for a time certain and with reason for the extension of time provided in the notice. If a shorter period of time is required under the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations, the Archivist shall so indicate in the notice. Sec. 3. Claim of Executive Privilege by Incumbent President. (a) Upon receipt of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records, the Attorney General (directly or through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel) and the Counsel to the President shall review as they deem appropriate the records covered by the notice and consult with each other, the Archivist, and such other executive agencies as they deem appropriate concerning whether invocation of executive privilege is justified. (b) The Attorney General and the Counsel to the President, in the exercise of their discretion and after appropriate review and consultation under subsection (a) of this section, may jointly determine that invocation of executive privilege is not justified. The Archivist shall be notified promptly of any such determination. (c) If either the Attorney General or the Counsel to the President believes that the circumstances justify invocation of executive privilege, the issue shall be presented to the President by the Counsel to the President and the Attorney General. (d) If the President decides to invoke executive privilege, the Counsel to the President shall notify the former President, the Archivist, and the Attorney General in writing of the claim of privilege and the specific Presidential records to which it relates. After receiving such notice, the Archivist shall not disclose the privileged records unless directed to do so by an incumbent President or by a final court order. Sec. 4. Claim of Executive Privilege by Former President. (a) Upon receipt of a claim of executive privilege by a living former President, the Archivist shall consult with the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel), the Counsel to the President, and such other executive agencies as the Archivist deems appropriate concerning the Archivist's determination as to whether to honor the former President's claim of privilege or instead to disclose the Presidential records notwithstanding the claim of privilege. Any determination under section 3 of this order that executive privilege shall not be invoked by the incumbent President shall not prejudice the Archivist's determination with respect to the former President's claim of privilege. (b) In making the determination referred to in subsection (a) of this section, the Archivist shall abide by any instructions given him by the incumbent President or his designee unless otherwise directed by a final court order. The Archivist shall notify the incumbent and former Presidents of his determination at least 30 days prior to disclosure of the Presidential records, unless a shorter time period is required in the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations. Copies of the notice for the incumbent President shall be delivered to the President (through the Counsel to the President) and the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel). The copy of the notice for the former President shall be delivered to the former President or his designated representative. Sec. 5. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect: (i) authority granted by law to a department or agency, or the head thereof; or (ii) functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budget, administrative, or legislative proposals. (b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations. (c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person. Sec. 6. Revocation. Executive Order 13233 of November 1, 2001, is revoked. BARACK OBAMA THE WHITE HOUSE, January 21, 2009. |
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Blogger Patrick McKinnion writes the following:
Another canon in birther mythology is the claim that Barack Obama signed an Executive Order his first day in office sealing his records.
While he did sign an executive order (Executive Order 13489), the truth of the matter is a bit different than what the birthers claim. As in 180 degrees different. On 18 January 1989, then-President Ronald Reagan signed Executive Order 12667, which established policies and procedures to govern "Executive Privilege" from current and former Presidents in connection with their Presidential Records, which among other things allowed the Archivist of the United States to release those records unless, within 30 days from notification, the current or former President says "no". On 5 November 2001, the-President George W. Bush signed Executive Order 13233, which restricted those records for a period of 12 years after the President in question left office and increased the time to 90 days. In addition, it allowed the current President to override the requests of the former President in regards to those records. It specifically revoked Reagan's order of 18 January 1989. So what did Obama's Executive Order 13489 do? It is almost word for word an exact copy of Reagan's order of 18 January 1989, and has the effect of expanding access to Presidential records by specifically revoking Bush's order of 5 November 2001. Here's the other thing that birthers don't seem to understand about Executive Order 13489. It only applies to Presidential Records, not the records before one became president. And there's nothing in Executive Order 13489 that hides the pre-Presidential records at all. It's interesting how the birthers could take something that is almost identical to what Ronald Reagan did in office, and turn it 180 to claim it's something it's really not. The myth that Obama signed an order hiding his records? Busted. |
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Blogger Patrick McKinnion writes the following: Another canon in birther mythology is the claim that Barack Obama signed an Executive Order his first day in office sealing his records. While he did sign an executive order (Executive Order 13489), the truth of the matter is a bit different than what the birthers claim. As in 180 degrees different. On 18 January 1989, then-President Ronald Reagan signed Executive Order 12667, which established policies and procedures to govern "Executive Privilege" from current and former Presidents in connection with their Presidential Records, which among other things allowed the Archivist of the United States to release those records unless, within 30 days from notification, the current or former President says "no". On 5 November 2001, the-President George W. Bush signed Executive Order 13233, which restricted those records for a period of 12 years after the President in question left office and increased the time to 90 days. In addition, it allowed the current President to override the requests of the former President in regards to those records. It specifically revoked Reagan's order of 18 January 1989. So what did Obama's Executive Order 13489 do? It is almost word for word an exact copy of Reagan's order of 18 January 1989, and has the effect of expanding access to Presidential records by specifically revoking Bush's order of 5 November 2001. Here's the other thing that birthers don't seem to understand about Executive Order 13489. It only applies to Presidential Records, not the records before one became president. And there's nothing in Executive Order 13489 that hides the pre-Presidential records at all. It's interesting how the birthers could take something that is almost identical to what Ronald Reagan did in office, and turn it 180 to claim it's something it's really not. The myth that Obama signed an order hiding his records? Busted. busted? hardly... if it's so meaningless, as you see it, then why was it the first thing he did? |
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he's hiding the fact that occidental and columbia were both paid for by a foreign student visa... our president, the cheat and liar... You mean these could have exposed him as a foreigner or if not a foreigner then, a liar? either way he's a liar... |
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Manchurian Candidate!
A Label they were desperate to hang on McCain,while slipping in the Real One in under the Radar! |
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Blogger Patrick McKinnion writes the following: Another canon in birther mythology is the claim that Barack Obama signed an Executive Order his first day in office sealing his records. While he did sign an executive order (Executive Order 13489), the truth of the matter is a bit different than what the birthers claim. As in 180 degrees different. On 18 January 1989, then-President Ronald Reagan signed Executive Order 12667, which established policies and procedures to govern "Executive Privilege" from current and former Presidents in connection with their Presidential Records, which among other things allowed the Archivist of the United States to release those records unless, within 30 days from notification, the current or former President says "no". On 5 November 2001, the-President George W. Bush signed Executive Order 13233, which restricted those records for a period of 12 years after the President in question left office and increased the time to 90 days. In addition, it allowed the current President to override the requests of the former President in regards to those records. It specifically revoked Reagan's order of 18 January 1989. So what did Obama's Executive Order 13489 do? It is almost word for word an exact copy of Reagan's order of 18 January 1989, and has the effect of expanding access to Presidential records by specifically revoking Bush's order of 5 November 2001. Here's the other thing that birthers don't seem to understand about Executive Order 13489. It only applies to Presidential Records, not the records before one became president. And there's nothing in Executive Order 13489 that hides the pre-Presidential records at all. It's interesting how the birthers could take something that is almost identical to what Ronald Reagan did in office, and turn it 180 to claim it's something it's really not. The myth that Obama signed an order hiding his records? Busted. busted? hardly... if it's so meaningless, as you see it, then why was it the first thing he did? because it put a time line on how long the FORMER president had to claim an exemption,, from 7 years, down to 30 days |
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The first executive order that President Obama signed made it easier to obtain the presidential records of former Presidents.
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The first executive order that President Obama signed made it easier to obtain the presidential records of former Presidents. yea, you people keep drinking that cool-aid... nice and refreshing, is that what they tell you? |
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