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http://www.spreadlibertynews.com/ron-paul-says-u-s-govt-considers-its-citizens-to-be-the-enemy/
By Admin on June 28, 2013 Paul speaks at the Conservative Political Action conference (CPAC) in Washington by Anthony Martin Former U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, has leveled a stinging and heavy indictment against the U.S. government in the Edward Snowden case. Snowden is the former NSA intelligence official who blew the whistle on the agency’s broad-based surveillance program aimed at tracking over 100 million American citizens. The U.S. government now considers Snowden to be a fugitive from justice who will be charged with espionage once he is extradited, if ever, back to U.S. soil. Snowden is on the run and seeking asylum reportedly in Ecuador. But Ron Paul disputes that notion. Espionage is a crime involving divulging government secrets to the enemy, not to U.S. citizens. And since Snowden is not even suspected of sending U.S. secrets to our enemies, then he could not be guilty of espionage in any way whatsoever. The problem with the government’s case against Snowden is manifold. So far the only thing he has done is to release information proving that the NSA spied on U.S. citizens to the tune of hundreds of millions, all without due process of law, proper court warrants, or probable cause. Neither were these citizens suspected of crimes. Thus, Snowden has shown that the U.S. government engaged in illegal activity that, according to the definition of term the Framers used in the Constitution, qualifies as “tyranny” or “despotism.” In short, the government broke a string of Constitutional laws in conducting a massive spy operation on American citizens. Even Republicans have joined Democrats in condemning Snowden, in addition to the Obama administration. But why? Are they saying that it is a crime for a government whistleblower to disclose to the American people that their government is not only engaging in illegal activity but that the target of this illegal activity is the citizens themselves? This should be the stuff of front page news. But once again the usual suspects in the Republican Party have joined Democrats and the Obama administration in dismantling, plank by plank, the precepts of this Constitutional Republic. Not only should elected officials such as McCain, Graham, Boehner, and McConnell be ousted from office but they should be hanging their heads in shame along with Obama, Hillary, Kerry, Reid, Schumer, Pelosi, and Feinstein. Paul goes one step further, however, in sealing the true nature of the views of these charlatans for all of posterity. He declared, “My understanding is that espionage means giving secret or classified information to the enemy. Since Snowden shared information with the American people, his indictment for espionage could reveal (or confirm) that the U.S. government views you and me as the enemy.” Image Reference The Atlantic |
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...his indictment for espionage could reveal (or confirm) that the U.S. government views you and me as the enemy.” There is nothing left to prove. The people of the US ARE viewed as the enemy!...Read HJR 192 passed June 1933 and see for yourselves. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 07/18/13 01:50 PM
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I LOVE RON PAUL!
"My understanding is that espionage means giving secret or classified information to the enemy. Since Snowden shared information with the American people, his indictment for espionage could reveal (or confirm) that the U.S. government views you and me as the enemy.” yep, the government has been busted!! They view us as the enemy. And they wonder why some of us view them as our enemy.  |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Thu 07/18/13 02:11 PM
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Our servants are stealing from us, lying to us, robbing us, spying on us, depriving us of our rights and destroying our home.
What does it take to waken sleeping home owners anyway?  Perhaps another war or martial law should do the trick.... Yeah right! I would love to see a rise in tar and feather stocks..... |
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Freedom hath been hunted round the globe. Asia and Africa have long expelled her. Europe regards her like a stranger, and England hath given her warning to depart. O! Receive the fugitive, and prepare in time an asylum for mankind.
--Thomas Paine. Common Sense, 1776 and now the only Refuge has joined the Hunt! |
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I would love to see a rise in tar and feather stocks..... You will!...Lucky for me I bought in when it was bottoming...I now stand to make a killing on the market! There may still be some opportunity in "rail" stocks too. 
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Our servants are stealing from us, lying to us, robbing us, spying on us, depriving us of our rights and destroying our home. What does it take to waken sleeping home owners anyway? Perhaps another war or martial law should do the trick.... Yeah right! I would love to see a rise in tar and feather stocks..... vote the incumbents out... really not that hard |
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Our servants are stealing from us, lying to us, robbing us, spying on us, depriving us of our rights and destroying our home. What does it take to waken sleeping home owners anyway? Perhaps another war or martial law should do the trick.... Yeah right! I would love to see a rise in tar and feather stocks..... vote the incumbents out... really not that hard BE the government as sovereigns, don't vote for it as serfs. |
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 Dr Paul is the man
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Edited by
willing2
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Fri 07/19/13 09:35 AM
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Hussein and Holder already have the enemy list.
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Fri 07/19/13 11:27 AM
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With friends and representatives like this in DC....who needs enemies?
"Department of Homeland Security labels U.S War Veterans as Terrorists" Janet Napolitano agrees with her staff members that U.S War Veterans are the greatest threat to Homeland Security. Reason being is their training in weapons handling and maintenance, urban and rural warfare training and I.E.D capabilities. Their excuse is that post traumatic stress disorders will have a direct influence on higher homeland acts of violence. The real reason why their doing it is because the vets pose a real threat to Martial Law, if put into action. In other words Martial Law could fail if implemented. DHS doesn't want the resistance U.S War Veterans bring to the fight, so they have been put on the top 10 watch list for terrorism on the Homeland Security Website. ************************** Just goes to show how phucked up this Marxist administrations thinking is because most veterans would support Martial Law if implemented for just cause..... |
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Our servants are stealing from us, lying to us, robbing us, spying on us, depriving us of our rights and destroying our home. What does it take to waken sleeping home owners anyway? Perhaps another war or martial law should do the trick.... Yeah right! I would love to see a rise in tar and feather stocks..... vote the incumbents out... really not that hard You dreamer! |
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Our servants are stealing from us, lying to us, robbing us, spying on us, depriving us of our rights and destroying our home. What does it take to waken sleeping home owners anyway? Perhaps another war or martial law should do the trick.... Yeah right! I would love to see a rise in tar and feather stocks..... vote the incumbents out... really not that hard You dreamer! any ideas you have are welcome too... i think we all agree there is a problem here... |
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/17/1224538/-DEVELOPING-Top-NSA-and-DOJ-Officials-Have-Fled-the-U-S-Obama-Admin-Files-Espionage-Charges
Wed Jul 17, 2013 at 05:26 PM PDT DEVELOPING: Top NSA and DOJ Officials Have Fled the U.S. - Obama Admin. Files Espionage Charges by David Harris Gershon In a stunning development, Deputy Director of the NSA, John Inglis, along with Assistant Attorney General, James Cole, have fled the United States after their participation in a contentious congressional meeting on Capitol Hill. In that meeting, both Inglis and Cole revealed that the depth of NSA spying far surpassed anything that whistleblower Edward Snowden has made public to date. The unauthorized leaks to Congress by Inglis and Cole, which exposed more about NSA spying than anything Snowden has revealed, shook congressional leaders to their core. The National Security Agency revealed to an angry congressional panel on Wednesday that its analysis of phone records and online behavior goes exponentially beyond what it had previously disclosed. [...] John C Inglis, the deputy director of the surveillance agency, told a member of the House judiciary committee that NSA analysts can perform "a second or third hop query" through its collections of telephone data and internet records in order to find connections to terrorist organizations. "Hops" refers to a technical term indicating connections between people. A three-hop query means that the NSA can look at data not only from a suspected terrorist, but from everyone that suspect communicated with, and then from everyone those people communicated with, and then from everyone all of those people communicated with. The Obama administration, blindsided by the leaks, immediately announced that the two would be charged under The Espionage Act, and declared them enemies of the state. Eric Holder, in a hastily convened press conference, admitted that the two had fled the United States on private jets immediately after the hearing, and that their whereabouts where unknown. He was, however, confident that the U.S. would bring them to justice. “The national security of the United States has been damaged by those leaks. The safety of the American people and safety of people in allied nations is at risk." [...] “I am confident that the people who are responsible will be held accountable.” Rumors are that the two senior intelligence officials have fled to Venezuela, where like Snowden, it is anticipated they will seek asylum. However, much speculation is swirling at this stage regarding their location and fate. While President Obama, in a short session before reporters, said, "We won't be scrambling any jets to catch these middle-aged leakers," diplomatic channels were already furiously at work, trying to close off all international airspace. Updates on this story as details emerge will appear below the break. Updates (EST): 11:01 pm - It has been confirmed by multiple sources that Inglis and Cole have fled to Hong Kong. Despite this revelation, mainstream media is fawning over news that Cole's wife was once a hand model for Palmolive. 10:24 pm - CNN is reporting, per an anonymous government source, that Inglis and Cole intentionally took their respective posts at the NSA and DOJ in order to leak surveillance information to Congress. "They engaged in a decades-long, career-building venture just for today's leak," the source said. 9:57 pm - MSNBC pundit Melissa Harris-Perry has called for Inglis and Cole to return to the States and face the consequences of their actions, apparently already tired of talking about the two whistleblowers. "So come on home, John and James, so we could talk about, you know, something else," Harris-Perry said. 9:42 pm - As the world searches for two of the nation's top intelligence officials, President Obama referred to them as "hackers" in a brief media appearance, attempting to recast the Deputy Director of the NSA and Assistant Attorney General as basement-dwelling, Ramen-noodle-eating cyber thieves who were never employed by the U.S. government or affiliated contractors. 9:16 pm - David Gregory has asked this evening whether congressional leaders, who asked the questions that led to Inglis and Cole's whistle-blowing, should be arrested. "It was just a question," Gregory Tweeted after coming under fire for suggesting U.S. legislators be jailed for doing their jobs. "I was just echoing what others were wondering." 9:03 pm - After rumours began swirling that Inglis and Cole were aboard a plane with the President of Kazakhstan, Nursultan Nazarbayev, several European nations closed off their airspace and forced Nazarbayev's twin-engine aircraft to land in a field in Lithuania. "We have not been this humiliated since that Jew Borat's movie!" screamed Nazarbayev after Lithuanian officials announced Inglis and Cole were not aboard the president's plane. 8:42 pm - Wikileaks has Tweeted that it has been in touch with Inglis and Cole, though refused to reveal their location or whether or not the organization is helping the two asylum seekers. 8:24 pm - A furious Venezuela has denied that intelligence officials are in the country. "The airspace around Latin America is closed. Nobody can get in or out!" 
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Edited by
Dodo_David
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Sat 07/20/13 08:34 AM
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/17/1224538/-DEVELOPING-Top-NSA-and-DOJ-Officials-Have-Fled-the-U-S-Obama-Admin-Files-Espionage-Charges Wed Jul 17, 2013 at 05:26 PM PDT DEVELOPING: Top NSA and DOJ Officials Have Fled the U.S. - Obama Admin. Files Espionage Charges by David Harris Gershon In a stunning development, Deputy Director of the NSA, John Inglis, along with Assistant Attorney General, James Cole, have fled the United States after their participation in a contentious congressional meeting on Capitol Hill. In that meeting, both Inglis and Cole revealed that the depth of NSA spying far surpassed anything that whistleblower Edward Snowden has made public to date. The unauthorized leaks to Congress by Inglis and Cole, which exposed more about NSA spying than anything Snowden has revealed, shook congressional leaders to their core. The National Security Agency revealed to an angry congressional panel on Wednesday that its analysis of phone records and online behavior goes exponentially beyond what it had previously disclosed. [...] John C Inglis, the deputy director of the surveillance agency, told a member of the House judiciary committee that NSA analysts can perform "a second or third hop query" through its collections of telephone data and internet records in order to find connections to terrorist organizations. "Hops" refers to a technical term indicating connections between people. A three-hop query means that the NSA can look at data not only from a suspected terrorist, but from everyone that suspect communicated with, and then from everyone those people communicated with, and then from everyone all of those people communicated with. The Obama administration, blindsided by the leaks, immediately announced that the two would be charged under The Espionage Act, and declared them enemies of the state. Eric Holder, in a hastily convened press conference, admitted that the two had fled the United States on private jets immediately after the hearing, and that their whereabouts where unknown. He was, however, confident that the U.S. would bring them to justice. “The national security of the United States has been damaged by those leaks. The safety of the American people and safety of people in allied nations is at risk." [...] “I am confident that the people who are responsible will be held accountable.” Rumors are that the two senior intelligence officials have fled to Venezuela, where like Snowden, it is anticipated they will seek asylum. However, much speculation is swirling at this stage regarding their location and fate. While President Obama, in a short session before reporters, said, "We won't be scrambling any jets to catch these middle-aged leakers," diplomatic channels were already furiously at work, trying to close off all international airspace. Updates on this story as details emerge will appear below the break. Updates (EST): 11:01 pm - It has been confirmed by multiple sources that Inglis and Cole have fled to Hong Kong. Despite this revelation, mainstream media is fawning over news that Cole's wife was once a hand model for Palmolive. 10:24 pm - CNN is reporting, per an anonymous government source, that Inglis and Cole intentionally took their respective posts at the NSA and DOJ in order to leak surveillance information to Congress. "They engaged in a decades-long, career-building venture just for today's leak," the source said. 9:57 pm - MSNBC pundit Melissa Harris-Perry has called for Inglis and Cole to return to the States and face the consequences of their actions, apparently already tired of talking about the two whistleblowers. "So come on home, John and James, so we could talk about, you know, something else," Harris-Perry said. 9:42 pm - As the world searches for two of the nation's top intelligence officials, President Obama referred to them as "hackers" in a brief media appearance, attempting to recast the Deputy Director of the NSA and Assistant Attorney General as basement-dwelling, Ramen-noodle-eating cyber thieves who were never employed by the U.S. government or affiliated contractors. 9:16 pm - David Gregory has asked this evening whether congressional leaders, who asked the questions that led to Inglis and Cole's whistle-blowing, should be arrested. "It was just a question," Gregory Tweeted after coming under fire for suggesting U.S. legislators be jailed for doing their jobs. "I was just echoing what others were wondering." 9:03 pm - After rumours began swirling that Inglis and Cole were aboard a plane with the President of Kazakhstan, Nursultan Nazarbayev, several European nations closed off their airspace and forced Nazarbayev's twin-engine aircraft to land in a field in Lithuania. "We have not been this humiliated since that Jew Borat's movie!" screamed Nazarbayev after Lithuanian officials announced Inglis and Cole were not aboard the president's plane. 8:42 pm - Wikileaks has Tweeted that it has been in touch with Inglis and Cole, though refused to reveal their location or whether or not the organization is helping the two asylum seekers. 8:24 pm - A furious Venezuela has denied that intelligence officials are in the country. "The airspace around Latin America is closed. Nobody can get in or out!" Instead of passing on a rumor that you read on DailyKos, perhaps you should visit actual news sites to see if the rumor is true. In this case, the rumor is false. |
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In this case, the rumor is false. RATS!!!...You have no idea how much I was hoping the story was true!...Of course the public testimony they gave was enough to have the NSA disbanded as an unlawful and criminal organization IMO. ("three hops" indeed!!) |
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um, but hasn't paul been 'government' for decades now?
so does that mean HE thinks americans are enemies? or is he just stereotyping/generalizing,,,,? |
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um, but hasn't paul been 'government' for decades now? so does that mean HE thinks americans are enemies? or is he just stereotyping/generalizing,,,,? Ron Paul is not 'government.' He should be. The established 'government' are terrified of him. |
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um, but hasn't paul been 'government' for decades now? so does that mean HE thinks americans are enemies? or is he just stereotyping/generalizing,,,,? Ron Paul is not 'government.' He should be. The established 'government' are terrified of him. so how many terms does a politician need to serve to be part of 'government'? |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sat 07/20/13 04:16 PM
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um, but hasn't paul been 'government' for decades now? so does that mean HE thinks americans are enemies? or is he just stereotyping/generalizing,,,,? Ron Paul is not 'government.' He should be. The established 'government' are terrified of him. so how many terms does a politician need to serve to be part of 'government'? He should have ran for President. Like I said, his party (both parties) were terrified of him. |
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