I'm playing pool one night an somehow God comes up and the guy I'm playin says he's a non believer, he says you can't prove it. I said well prove to me love exists. He says it's all around, I said I'd say the same about God.

So my question is if you don't believe in God how can you prove to me love exists?

Silly question It is not possible to prove anything that was determined with the end of logical positivism. For example if everything must have a cause then god must have a cause. If god did not have a cause then its arguable that we do not have a cause.. From thos iargumenmt there is no escape... The existence of god is predicated upon a leap of faith as no science can sutbstanciate or demonstrate something that is not measurable similarly unless operationally defined neither can love..

Nice, lol.

Let me say it simpler...you cannot.

Proof of love is everywhere. The evolution of mammals is based on love, caring for your young by nurturing from the breast. A mother will sacrifice herself and take on any challenge no matter how large to protect their offspring. Unconditionally. You just have to look and you will find it. The act of looking is what actually creates, And if you plan on creating anything I would suggest you create love.

Namaste.

Oh as for god....

Well it depends what you think god is. There are many ideas of what god is, same for love, many ideas right? What is the right idea?

Well my belief is that god is the universe, god is nature, god is the all encompassing intention of growth and evolution despite how rough the road may be life and consciousness strives on. To me that is god, a non-personal, collective entity of all space and time.

Namaste.

I believe in Karma. It's simple and doesn't require faith.

I knew a radical in college who once bellowed: I am an Anarchist! All I believe in is Nothing!"

Msmyka, you can prove karma?

Can you prove you're not a droid?

There was once a professor teaching classes in college. One day he announced God did not exist. He said if God existed, to hit him with a lightning bolt. Then he waited, after five minutes the class was giggling. Suddenly, a young marine stood up, walked to the professor, and punched his lights out, to the surprise of the class as their professor lay there. The marine sit back down.

The professor, on awakening and gathering his wits, said "Why'd you do that for?" To which the marine replied, "God must of been busy with important stuff, so he sent me." The room erupted in cheers.

So see, God exists.

Ask a question in response to a question=avoiding original q or subject matter.

But I'll play anyway. Depends on ur definition of droid, my def says I'm not.

@ oldhippie- that's fn great.

I believe in Science and Philosophy - and the single God
responsible for our existence as well as the existence of Science and Philosophy.
The idea of a single unique God which by definition is the same
God for everyone regardless of what name is given.

I think the question of God is objective, because to some, Science is "God" with its ever changing facts, and unreliable theory's ...it is "God" made in the image of man. There is not a proof of science, as there is not a proof for math, love..now there is not proof what so ever of love, or any other self inflicted emotion. Emotions are unprovable, unreliable, yet so called Atheists (and I say so called because they believe in the great invisible mind of mans ideas) so called Atheists are in a constants rage against what they say does not exist. Which is..to say the least..proof of their atheistic insecurity if you ask me.

My views align pretty much with Slow's but I can't tell where you are going or where you have been.

"...there is not a proof for math,..."?

You are the one asserting something. Prove that god exists?

Math is not exact...nothing is exact, if you do not believe me
look into Kurt Godel's work. there is nothing reliable, that man can say is a FACT. There is faith..the evidence of things unseen, there is reason, there is history, and there is experience. All of which is with out exact proof. So could there be a "God" ? What kind of arrogance can define a creator or personality or being or beyond being that creates worlds, water, air, ideas, and breath? I can not say that I know what "God" is ..I just know we are not, I am not, you are not, the powers that hold our money, and media are not, scientist and teachers are not. The one who knows they do NOT know is the one that knows the truth, which is unknowable

nothing can be proven.do i believe God exists?of course but i can't prove it but on the other hand,nobody can prove he doesn't exist.all you can do is believe or not believe

My believe is based on something I call cyclic theory.

Nothing in the universe has a beginning nor an end. Time itself is a measure of perpetuity but let's disregard that it is a measure for a second and for the sake of this argument let's imagine time as an entity within which everything is dissolved.

Time would then also be cyclic like a complete circle if viewed two-dimensionally.

So, based on this and let's say the beginning and the end are just points along that circle and let's assume that god is the beginning and man the end, then god created man, but god as an entity was itself created by man just before that...

That's my theory, as for proof, I don't think we need it, I think that if we look at god and religion as being one and the same, then Karl Marx would be the man that put it best:

"Die Religion ist der Seufzer der bedrängten Kreatur, das Gemüth einer herzlosen Welt, wie sie der Geist geistloser Zustände ist. Sie ist das Opium des Volks."

It serves a purpose just as fire does but let's not ever put it out of context and let it become the master before ourselves because just as fire serves us when we control it, religion will too but fire that controls us, consumes until there is nothing left and at that point, what really is it's purpose.

Without a source, it also dies and there is nothing to bring it back.

Without man, religion/god for the sake of this argument also dies and there is nothing to bring that back either.

...but hey, what do I know, I may just be talking out of my rear.

My $0.02 worth.

I AM.

That's proof enough.