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...in any case,, I clearly see an anti christian agenda spreading, a very worldly PUBLIC culture being adopted in its place,, and for that reason I choose to send my child to private or christian education when I Can so that she is not endoctrinated into worldly ways,,,,so completely Yes, there will be many who will someday regret their efforts in silencing the Lord's Church in America. Seriously? --That does sound like a threat, and I'm not surprised. I've heard threats coming from Christians quite often. But your threat is uncalled for. No one is trying to "silence" anyone!! You can preach your religion as much as you want. But in order for freedom of religion to remain in this country you cannot insist on preaching it AT A PUBLIC EVENT OR PUBLIC SCHOOL. P.S. praying to your God in an OFFICIAL CAPACITY at a public event is the same as preaching. If you want to live in a country that is run by a religion, then become a Muslim and move to a Muslim country run by Muslim zealots. Or move to Israel and live according to their Jewish religious laws. And by the way, many government functions still do it anyway. Strange...how you see a threat from my last statement. The threat is the philosophy you have chosen. You're making a bed you are having to sleep in. We do live in a country that was founded on Biblical principles ...but has now been terribly fragmented by various philosophies. Look around...see the chaos? Yes, there will be many who will someday regret their efforts in spreading myths and silencing the truth. I have no problem with some Biblical principles, like "love they enemy" But apparently since there are three major religions based on the Bible who continue to hate and make war with each other, I see that is where the chaos is coming from. The three major religions you are thinking of are not all based on the Bible. The only one that would make that claim would be Christianity. The Bible is a book that includes the origin of all men and their final destination. It is a history book and it is prophetic. Jews Worship the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Christians worship the same God. But God promised the world a Savior. Christians have accepted the life, teaching, death, burial, and ressurection of Jesus Christ. Jews as a whole have yet to receive Him. But that day is fast approaching. |
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...in any case,, I clearly see an anti christian agenda spreading, a very worldly PUBLIC culture being adopted in its place,, and for that reason I choose to send my child to private or christian education when I Can so that she is not endoctrinated into worldly ways,,,,so completely Yes, there will be many who will someday regret their efforts in silencing the Lord's Church in America. Seriously? --That does sound like a threat, and I'm not surprised. I've heard threats coming from Christians quite often. But your threat is uncalled for. No one is trying to "silence" anyone!! You can preach your religion as much as you want. But in order for freedom of religion to remain in this country you cannot insist on preaching it AT A PUBLIC EVENT OR PUBLIC SCHOOL. P.S. praying to your God in an OFFICIAL CAPACITY at a public event is the same as preaching. If you want to live in a country that is run by a religion, then become a Muslim and move to a Muslim country run by Muslim zealots. Or move to Israel and live according to their Jewish religious laws. And by the way, many government functions still do it anyway. Strange...how you see a threat from my last statement. The threat is the philosophy you have chosen. You're making a bed you are having to sleep in. We do live in a country that was founded on Biblical principles ...but has now been terribly fragmented by various philosophies. Look around...see the chaos? Yes, there will be many who will someday regret their efforts in spreading myths and silencing the truth. I have no problem with some Biblical principles, like "love they enemy" But apparently since there are three major religions based on the Bible who continue to hate and make war with each other, I see that is where the chaos is coming from. The three major religions you are thinking of are not all based on the Bible. The only one that would make that claim would be Christianity. The Bible is a book that includes the origin of all men and their final destination. It is a history book and it is prophetic. Jews Worship the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Christians worship the same God. But God promised the world a Savior. Christians have accepted the life, teaching, death, burial, and ressurection of Jesus Christ. Jews as a whole have yet to receive Him. But that day is fast approaching. People have been claiming the end is nigh for YEARS, last I checked we're still here........the way I see it all this waiting for a savior business is just a way to strip us of our power and put it toward something that will never come instead. It is a way to keep us from rising up. |
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msharmony
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Sat 06/15/13 04:38 AM
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in any case,, I clearly see an anti christian agenda spreading, a very worldly PUBLIC culture being adopted in its place,, and for that reason It's not anti-christian......it's anti-pushing your morality onto everyone else, there is a difference. This is NOT about you, you can believe anything you want, but you should not have the right to make everyone else believe it with you. Keep it personal. there is no such thing as not pushing morality,, its just WHICH morality is pushed I dont care for the type being endoctrinated into the schools,,, thats my perogative,,, it is personal, that is why it is my personal choice to send my child to such schools,,, If it's personal than it should STAY with you, the moment you try and force it on someone else (and being exposed to is not the same as forcing you to believe it fyi), you cross that line. If it's personal to you, don't involve others in it. Simple. Frankly I think the fact that you are so afraid of your kids being taught other idea speaks to your own insecurities about your parenting skills. If you raised them right what others tell them would be of no consequence right? What is there to fear if you did your job? frankly, I think the fact that you think outside influences dont affect children, rEGARDLESS of their upbringing,, speaks to how little you know about childhood/adolescent tendencies or parenting I will continue to choose to engulf my child in the experiences and surroundings I feel benefit her for the best,,,,public educat what do non believers fear if they are parenting right , if religion is permitted in school teachings? ,,,foolish questin |
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in any case,, I clearly see an anti christian agenda spreading, a very worldly PUBLIC culture being adopted in its place,, and for that reason It's not anti-christian......it's anti-pushing your morality onto everyone else, there is a difference. This is NOT about you, you can believe anything you want, but you should not have the right to make everyone else believe it with you. Keep it personal. there is no such thing as not pushing morality,, its just WHICH morality is pushed I dont care for the type being endoctrinated into the schools,,, thats my perogative,,, it is personal, that is why it is my personal choice to send my child to such schools,,, If it's personal than it should STAY with you, the moment you try and force it on someone else (and being exposed to is not the same as forcing you to believe it fyi), you cross that line. If it's personal to you, don't involve others in it. Simple. Frankly I think the fact that you are so afraid of your kids being taught other idea speaks to your own insecurities about your parenting skills. If you raised them right what others tell them would be of no consequence right? What is there to fear if you did your job? frankly, I think the fact that you think outside influences dont affect children, rEGARDLESS of their upbringing,, speaks to how little you know about childhood/adolescent tendencies or parenting I will continue to choose to engulf my child in the experiences and surroundings I feel benefit her for the best,,,,public educat what do non believers fear if they are parenting right , if religion is permitted in school teachings? ,,,foolish questin It's fine if you want religion in your school teaching, but it should NOT be just yours, that's brainwashing the child, indoctrinating them. And that's why non believers get into an uproar about it because the kids are not taught anything but the accepted belief system. If you're gonna do it, teach them all, otherwise you shouldn't teach any. What exactly is different about the Muslims teaching THEIR belief over yours? Why is it ok for you to preach YOUR version of religion but if someone else wants to do the same thing you are doing now and corner the market for their belief system it's not right? That's hypocritical, if you can do it, so should they be able to, and if not then you shouldn't either. As for the kids thing.....I may not have the experience you have, but I can tell you right now I would have respected my dad and his family (and my mom's side for that matter) a HELL of a lot more if they would listen to me instead of just trying to mold me into what they wanted/want for me. All that ever does to me is push one away and causes resentment. It's good enough for me to tell what NOT to do when I raise my own child if I ever have one, I may decide not to. But if I do, I sure as hell won't raise them like they can't have a view on something like others do or like I was raised. No way. |
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in any case,, I clearly see an anti christian agenda spreading, a very worldly PUBLIC culture being adopted in its place,, and for that reason It's not anti-christian......it's anti-pushing your morality onto everyone else, there is a difference. This is NOT about you, you can believe anything you want, but you should not have the right to make everyone else believe it with you. Keep it personal. there is no such thing as not pushing morality,, its just WHICH morality is pushed I dont care for the type being endoctrinated into the schools,,, thats my perogative,,, it is personal, that is why it is my personal choice to send my child to such schools,,, If it's personal than it should STAY with you, the moment you try and force it on someone else (and being exposed to is not the same as forcing you to believe it fyi), you cross that line. If it's personal to you, don't involve others in it. Simple. Frankly I think the fact that you are so afraid of your kids being taught other idea speaks to your own insecurities about your parenting skills. If you raised them right what others tell them would be of no consequence right? What is there to fear if you did your job? frankly, I think the fact that you think outside influences dont affect children, rEGARDLESS of their upbringing,, speaks to how little you know about childhood/adolescent tendencies or parenting I will continue to choose to engulf my child in the experiences and surroundings I feel benefit her for the best,,,,public educat what do non believers fear if they are parenting right , if religion is permitted in school teachings? ,,,foolish questin It's fine if you want religion in your school teaching, but it should NOT be just yours, that's brainwashing the child, indoctrinating them. And that's why non believers get into an uproar about it because the kids are not taught anything but the accepted belief system. If you're gonna do it, teach them all, otherwise you shouldn't teach any. What exactly is different about the Muslims teaching THEIR belief over yours? Why is it ok for you to preach YOUR version of religion but if someone else wants to do the same thing you are doing now and corner the market for their belief system it's not right? That's hypocritical, if you can do it, so should they be able to, and if not then you shouldn't either. As for the kids thing.....I may not have the experience you have, but I can tell you right now I would have respected my dad and his family (and my mom's side for that matter) a HELL of a lot more if they would listen to me instead of just trying to mold me into what they wanted/want for me. All that ever does to me is push one away and causes resentment. It's good enough for me to tell what NOT to do when I raise my own child if I ever have one, I may decide not to. But if I do, I sure as hell won't raise them like they can't have a view on something like others do or like I was raised. No way. neither have I , nor did my parents,,, but back to the point there is no AGENDALESS environment where people are gathered together for any purpose Im just deciding to choose the AGENDA that I believe will benefite and be healthiest for my child,,, |
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The truth about Islam.
Degenerates, murderous, pedophile, hate-filled. Any group, including NOI, who follows Mohamed should be banished to Mecca. 
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in fairness, past cultures were brutal
all religious books reflect those cultures in their writing and include passages that can be used to paint an exclusive or primarily brutal picture of the religion the total picture is usually nothing nearly as brutal or evil as the partial picture (partial truth) appears to reveal |
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Wow, the replies on this thread have seriously gone off topic.
The OP talks about public schools accommodating the religious requirements that Muslim children are supposed to conform to. Is it wrong for public schools to enable Muslim students to participate in the noontime prayers that Islam requires of Muslims? |
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Wow, the replies on this thread have seriously gone off topic. The OP talks about public schools accommodating the religious requirements that Muslim children are supposed to conform to. Is it wrong for public schools to enable Muslim students to participate in the noontime prayers that Islam requires of Muslims? I dont believe it is, if it is not disrupting the main purpose of educating the children,,,,and if similar time is allotted other students to meditate/pray, or whatever |
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in fairness???  , past cultures were brutal
all religious books reflect those cultures in their writing and include passages that can be used to paint an exclusive or primarily brutal picture of the religion the total picture is usually nothing nearly as brutal or evil as the partial picture (partial truth) appears to reveal Key word, PAST, centuries ago. Muslimes are still practicing their genocide of infidels. In this picture, tell us one part that is not practiced by them today. Then, tell us how many other religions are practicing genocide today?
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I think the issues of religion and culture are being confused
CHristians could be said to be 'practicing' genocide, with the death penalty (also arguably 'sanctioned' by our religious book) or abortion (not sanctioned in a book, unless the argument is raised about children killed in the bible) which many christians believe to be a 'womans right' issue instead of a murder issue,,, point is, there are cultures which expect their own laws to be abided by and cultures which feel some of those laws when broken are deserving of death Christians as a whole dont NORMALLY go around stoning adulterers, and Muslims as a whole dont NORMALLY go around killing infidels either |
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I think the issues of religion and culture are being confused CHristians could be said to be 'practicing' genocide, with the death penalty (also arguably 'sanctioned' by our religious book) or abortion (not sanctioned in a book, unless the argument is raised about children killed in the bible) which many christians believe to be a 'womans right' issue instead of a murder issue,,, point is, there are cultures which expect their own laws to be abided by and cultures which feel some of those laws when broken are deserving of death Christians as a whole dont NORMALLY go around stoning adulterers, and Muslims as a whole dont NORMALLY go around killing infidels either You right. A a few, tens of millions of Muslimes stoning is just a small percentage.
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CHristians could be said to be 'practicing' genocide, with the death penalty (also arguably 'sanctioned' by our religious book)
One would have to make some wild leaps in logic to conclude that Christians are practicing genocide by approving of the death penalty. |
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I think the issues of religion and culture are being confused CHristians could be said to be 'practicing' genocide, with the death penalty (also arguably 'sanctioned' by our religious book) or abortion (not sanctioned in a book, unless the argument is raised about children killed in the bible) which many christians believe to be a 'womans right' issue instead of a murder issue,,, point is, there are cultures which expect their own laws to be abided by and cultures which feel some of those laws when broken are deserving of death Christians as a whole dont NORMALLY go around stoning adulterers, and Muslims as a whole dont NORMALLY go around killing infidels either You right. A a few, tens of millions of Muslimes stoning is just a small percentage.
and how many christians kill? I dont know how we could know the numbers, but IM sure neither group has a small number when worldwide actions are considered,,, |
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CHristians could be said to be 'practicing' genocide, with the death penalty (also arguably 'sanctioned' by our religious book)
One would have to make some wild leaps in logic to conclude that Christians are practicing genocide by approving of the death penalty. its the same leap that is made about muslims practicing genocide with their 'death penalties' |
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CHristians could be said to be 'practicing' genocide, with the death penalty (also arguably 'sanctioned' by our religious book)
One would have to make some wild leaps in logic to conclude that Christians are practicing genocide by approving of the death penalty. its the same leap that is made about muslims practicing genocide with their 'death penalties' I didn't say anything about Muslims practicing genocide. |
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CHristians could be said to be 'practicing' genocide, with the death penalty (also arguably 'sanctioned' by our religious book)
One would have to make some wild leaps in logic to conclude that Christians are practicing genocide by approving of the death penalty. its the same leap that is made about muslims practicing genocide with their 'death penalties' I didn't say anything about Muslims practicing genocide. ...someone else did |
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CHristians could be said to be 'practicing' genocide, with the death penalty (also arguably 'sanctioned' by our religious book)
One would have to make some wild leaps in logic to conclude that Christians are practicing genocide by approving of the death penalty. its the same leap that is made about muslims practicing genocide with their 'death penalties' I didn't say anything about Muslims practicing genocide. ...someone else did Well, two wrongs don't make a right. |
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CHristians could be said to be 'practicing' genocide, with the death penalty (also arguably 'sanctioned' by our religious book)
One would have to make some wild leaps in logic to conclude that Christians are practicing genocide by approving of the death penalty. its the same leap that is made about muslims practicing genocide with their 'death penalties' I didn't say anything about Muslims practicing genocide. ...someone else did Well, two wrongs don't make a right. thats the reason I used the word 'could be said',,,,,, either accusation , imho, is wrong,,, |
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CHristians could be said to be 'practicing' genocide, with the death penalty (also arguably 'sanctioned' by our religious book)
One would have to make some wild leaps in logic to conclude that Christians are practicing genocide by approving of the death penalty. its the same leap that is made about muslims practicing genocide with their 'death penalties' I didn't say anything about Muslims practicing genocide. ...someone else did Well, two wrongs don't make a right. thats the reason I used the word 'could be said',,,,,, either accusation , imho, is wrong,,, Ah, now I get it. 
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