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CeriseRose
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Are public schools in this country being pressured to make special accommodations for Muslim students and to deny comparable accommodations for students of other faiths?
Islamizing the Public Schools June 13, 2013 By Joseph Klein The Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is pressuring public schools in this country to make special accommodations for Muslim students and to deny comparable accommodations for students of other faiths. For example, CAIR’s instructional material for teachers entitled “An Educator’s Guide to Islamic Religious Practices” advises schools to permit Muslim students who wish to attend Friday congregational worship (known as Jum’ah) to “request a temporary release from school.” In Michigan, CAIR went beyond dispensing general advice from its guidebook. In April, 2013, it pushed for public schools in Dearborn, Michigan to accommodate Muslim students who wish to comfortably pray on school grounds and to allow Muslim students to leave early on Fridays for Jumu’ah prayers. The school superintendant caved, and CAIR got its wish. Just a few months earlier, the same CAIR Michigan branch had complained that a Detroit area elementary school was being too accommodating to Christians when it allowed its teachers to distribute permission slips for parents to sign so that their children could be released to attend off-site Bible studies classes. In his letter to the school district, CAIR-MI Executive Director Dawud Walid wrote in part: School staff and teachers are not to serve as advocates for one particular religion or congregation within a religion by passing out slips inviting parents to give permission for their children to attend religious instruction. . . According to the United States Supreme Court, the First Amendment clearly requires that public school students and their parents are never given the impression that their school/school district prefers a specific religion over others or sanctions religion in general. CAIR’s sanctimonious, hypocritical letter worked. It intimidated the school district into offering an apology. In California, the Islamists have already won in their efforts to get special treatment for Islam in the public schools. For example, several years ago seventh-graders at a San Francisco-area school were required to “become Muslims” for two full weeks as part of California’s world history curriculum. This included professing as “true” the Muslim belief that “The Holy Quran is God’s word,” reciting the Muslim profession of faith — “Allah is the only true God and Muhammad is his messenger” —and chanting “Praise be to Allah.” Just imagine what would happen if a public school told Muslim students to become Jews for two weeks and recite the traditional Jewish prayer: “Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God, the Lord is one.” Yet, in 2006, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in California dismissed a case brought by outraged parents even though Supreme Court decisions have kept religion out of public schools for decades. In a brief memorandum opinion, the appeals court concluded that the activities did not constitute “overt religious activities that raise Establishment Clause concerns.” The Supreme Court apparently forgot its own precedents when it refused to take an appeal from the 9th Circuit decision. While allowing Islamist indoctrination in public schools, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld another public school’s ban on a student performance of an instrumental version of Ave Maria at their high school’s graduation, because the performance could be seen as endorsing religion. These judges saw no inconsistency in allowing Muslim prayers in the classroom, while upholding the banning of a one-time performance of a Christian-themed instrumental classic. CAIR also sends its own lecturers into the public schools to indoctrinate impressionable students with Islamist propaganda and wants Muslim educators to have a say in textbook selection to spin the Islamist narrative in history and social studies texts. On November 29, 2011, for example, Hassan Shibly, CAIR Florida Executive Director, taught more than 400 Steinbrenner High School students, whose world history teacher asked Shibly to specifically cover sharia law and the mission of CAIR itself. We can be sure that Shibly left out of his biased presentation the part about sharia law’s call for violent jihad against the “infidels.” No doubt he also omitted CAIR’s connection to the Muslim Brotherhood or its alleged part in the Holy Land Foundation terrorist funding case. While CAIR sends its own representatives into public schools to indoctrinate students with its Islamist spin, it uses the legal system to bully teachers who dare to bring up examples of terrorists committing violence in the name of Islam. For example, CAIR’s Washington state branch accused a well-respected Washington public school teacher of being “racist.” CAIR complained that the teacher, while instructing her students about the dangers of bullying last October, used the terrorist groups Taliban and Hamas as examples of organizations that employ violence to “bully people.” CAIR called for a federal investigation and demanded information “regarding curriculum, approved texts and materials, internal correspondence, and past complaints against the district.” “Often one complaint is indicative of a larger pattern of biased education,” said CAIR-Washington’s civil rights coordinator, Jennifer Gist, in a statement. “We are requesting public records from the district to review their materials and past complaints, in an effort to analyze the quality of equal education it affords its students.” So far, the Washington state school district has stood up for its teacher. Let’s hope it doesn’t end up bending to CAIR’s will and that more public schools in this country resist the Islamists’ bullying, even if the Obama administration follows it usual course and supports the Islamists’ position. http://frontpagemag.com/2013/joseph-klein/islamizing-the-public-schools/ |
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Sounds like a lot of propaganda to me.
Christians are quick to complain about not being able to conduct Christian prayer in schools but even quicker to keep Islam out of public schools. P.S. Any person can pray to any God at any time any where they want. It is the sanctioning of a public display of religion that is not proper. |
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Edited by
Kleisto
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Fri 06/14/13 02:37 PM
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Sounds like a lot of propaganda to me. Christians are quick to complain about not being able to conduct Christian prayer in schools but even quicker to keep Islam out of public schools. Pretty much, as I've said before, Christians are all for freedom of religion.......but only if theirs is being supported. They could care less about anyone elses'. |
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Are public schools in this country being pressured to make special accommodations for Muslim students and to deny comparable accommodations for students of other faiths? Islamizing the Public Schools June 13, 2013 By Joseph Klein The Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is pressuring public schools in this country to make special accommodations for Muslim students and to deny comparable accommodations for students of other faiths. For example, CAIR’s instructional material for teachers entitled “An Educator’s Guide to Islamic Religious Practices” advises schools to permit Muslim students who wish to attend Friday congregational worship (known as Jum’ah) to “request a temporary release from school.” In Michigan, CAIR went beyond dispensing general advice from its guidebook. In April, 2013, it pushed for public schools in Dearborn, Michigan to accommodate Muslim students who wish to comfortably pray on school grounds and to allow Muslim students to leave early on Fridays for Jumu’ah prayers. The school superintendant caved, and CAIR got its wish. Just a few months earlier, the same CAIR Michigan branch had complained that a Detroit area elementary school was being too accommodating to Christians when it allowed its teachers to distribute permission slips for parents to sign so that their children could be released to attend off-site Bible studies classes. In his letter to the school district, CAIR-MI Executive Director Dawud Walid wrote in part: School staff and teachers are not to serve as advocates for one particular religion or congregation within a religion by passing out slips inviting parents to give permission for their children to attend religious instruction. . . According to the United States Supreme Court, the First Amendment clearly requires that public school students and their parents are never given the impression that their school/school district prefers a specific religion over others or sanctions religion in general. CAIR’s sanctimonious, hypocritical letter worked. It intimidated the school district into offering an apology. In California, the Islamists have already won in their efforts to get special treatment for Islam in the public schools. For example, several years ago seventh-graders at a San Francisco-area school were required to “become Muslims” for two full weeks as part of California’s world history curriculum. This included professing as “true” the Muslim belief that “The Holy Quran is God’s word,” reciting the Muslim profession of faith — “Allah is the only true God and Muhammad is his messenger” —and chanting “Praise be to Allah.” Just imagine what would happen if a public school told Muslim students to become Jews for two weeks and recite the traditional Jewish prayer: “Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God, the Lord is one.” Yet, in 2006, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in California dismissed a case brought by outraged parents even though Supreme Court decisions have kept religion out of public schools for decades. In a brief memorandum opinion, the appeals court concluded that the activities did not constitute “overt religious activities that raise Establishment Clause concerns.” The Supreme Court apparently forgot its own precedents when it refused to take an appeal from the 9th Circuit decision. While allowing Islamist indoctrination in public schools, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld another public school’s ban on a student performance of an instrumental version of Ave Maria at their high school’s graduation, because the performance could be seen as endorsing religion. These judges saw no inconsistency in allowing Muslim prayers in the classroom, while upholding the banning of a one-time performance of a Christian-themed instrumental classic. CAIR also sends its own lecturers into the public schools to indoctrinate impressionable students with Islamist propaganda and wants Muslim educators to have a say in textbook selection to spin the Islamist narrative in history and social studies texts. On November 29, 2011, for example, Hassan Shibly, CAIR Florida Executive Director, taught more than 400 Steinbrenner High School students, whose world history teacher asked Shibly to specifically cover sharia law and the mission of CAIR itself. We can be sure that Shibly left out of his biased presentation the part about sharia law’s call for violent jihad against the “infidels.” No doubt he also omitted CAIR’s connection to the Muslim Brotherhood or its alleged part in the Holy Land Foundation terrorist funding case. While CAIR sends its own representatives into public schools to indoctrinate students with its Islamist spin, it uses the legal system to bully teachers who dare to bring up examples of terrorists committing violence in the name of Islam. For example, CAIR’s Washington state branch accused a well-respected Washington public school teacher of being “racist.” CAIR complained that the teacher, while instructing her students about the dangers of bullying last October, used the terrorist groups Taliban and Hamas as examples of organizations that employ violence to “bully people.” CAIR called for a federal investigation and demanded information “regarding curriculum, approved texts and materials, internal correspondence, and past complaints against the district.” “Often one complaint is indicative of a larger pattern of biased education,” said CAIR-Washington’s civil rights coordinator, Jennifer Gist, in a statement. “We are requesting public records from the district to review their materials and past complaints, in an effort to analyze the quality of equal education it affords its students.” So far, the Washington state school district has stood up for its teacher. Let’s hope it doesn’t end up bending to CAIR’s will and that more public schools in this country resist the Islamists’ bullying, even if the Obama administration follows it usual course and supports the Islamists’ position. http://frontpagemag.com/2013/joseph-klein/islamizing-the-public-schools/ Public schools have to do the will of the 'public',, and although I am neutral about the accomodating of different CULTURES (Which musilim religion is about,, to be truthful,, its a different CULTURE, several subcultures actually) Christians dont , by and large, have a culture that needs special accomodations during the school week, as we generally have service on saturday or sunday available to us,,, I think its ridiculous that field trips that are opt in or opt out are excluded specifically because they deal with religion,,,whatever the religion ,,but then again, parents have the opportunity to create their own field trips if they want their children exposed in any case,, I clearly see an anti christian agenda spreading, a very worldly PUBLIC culture being adopted in its place,, and for that reason I choose to send my child to private or christian education when I Can so that she is not endoctrinated into worldly ways,,,,so completely |
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...in any case,, I clearly see an anti christian agenda spreading, a very worldly PUBLIC culture being adopted in its place,, and for that reason I choose to send my child to private or christian education when I Can so that she is not endoctrinated into worldly ways,,,,so completely Yes, there will be many who will someday regret their efforts in silencing the Lord's Church in America. |
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in any case,, I clearly see an anti christian agenda spreading, a very worldly PUBLIC culture being adopted in its place,, and for that reason It's not anti-christian......it's anti-pushing your morality onto everyone else, there is a difference. This is NOT about you, you can believe anything you want, but you should not have the right to make everyone else believe it with you. Keep it personal. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Fri 06/14/13 05:41 PM
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...in any case,, I clearly see an anti christian agenda spreading, a very worldly PUBLIC culture being adopted in its place,, and for that reason I choose to send my child to private or christian education when I Can so that she is not endoctrinated into worldly ways,,,,so completely Yes, there will be many who will someday regret their efforts in silencing the Lord's Church in America. Seriously? --That does sound like a threat, and I'm not surprised. I've heard threats coming from Christians quite often. But your threat is uncalled for. No one is trying to "silence" anyone!! You can preach your religion as much as you want. But in order for freedom of religion to remain in this country you cannot insist on preaching it AT A PUBLIC EVENT OR PUBLIC SCHOOL. P.S. praying to your God in an OFFICIAL CAPACITY at a public event is the same as preaching. If you want to live in a country that is run by a religion, then become a Muslim and move to a Muslim country run by Muslim zealots. Or move to Israel and live according to their Jewish religious laws. And by the way, many government functions still do it anyway. |
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Edited by
CeriseRose
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Fri 06/14/13 06:49 PM
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...in any case,, I clearly see an anti christian agenda spreading, a very worldly PUBLIC culture being adopted in its place,, and for that reason I choose to send my child to private or christian education when I Can so that she is not endoctrinated into worldly ways,,,,so completely Yes, there will be many who will someday regret their efforts in silencing the Lord's Church in America. Seriously? --That does sound like a threat, and I'm not surprised. I've heard threats coming from Christians quite often. But your threat is uncalled for. No one is trying to "silence" anyone!! You can preach your religion as much as you want. But in order for freedom of religion to remain in this country you cannot insist on preaching it AT A PUBLIC EVENT OR PUBLIC SCHOOL. P.S. praying to your God in an OFFICIAL CAPACITY at a public event is the same as preaching. If you want to live in a country that is run by a religion, then become a Muslim and move to a Muslim country run by Muslim zealots. Or move to Israel and live according to their Jewish religious laws. And by the way, many government functions still do it anyway. Strange...how you see a threat from my last statement. The threat is the philosophy you have chosen. You're making a bed you are having to sleep in. We do live in a country that was founded on Biblical principles ...but has now been terribly fragmented by various philosophies. Look around...see the chaos? |
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Edited by
Kleisto
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Fri 06/14/13 06:51 PM
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...in any case,, I clearly see an anti christian agenda spreading, a very worldly PUBLIC culture being adopted in its place,, and for that reason I choose to send my child to private or christian education when I Can so that she is not endoctrinated into worldly ways,,,,so completely Yes, there will be many who will someday regret their efforts in silencing the Lord's Church in America. Seriously? --That does sound like a threat, and I'm not surprised. I've heard threats coming from Christians quite often. But your threat is uncalled for. No one is trying to "silence" anyone!! You can preach your religion as much as you want. But in order for freedom of religion to remain in this country you cannot insist on preaching it AT A PUBLIC EVENT OR PUBLIC SCHOOL. P.S. praying to your God in an OFFICIAL CAPACITY at a public event is the same as preaching. If you want to live in a country that is run by a religion, then become a Muslim and move to a Muslim country run by Muslim zealots. Or move to Israel and live according to their Jewish religious laws. And by the way, many government functions still do it anyway. Strange...how you see a threat from my last statement. The threat is the philosophy you have chosen. You're making a bed you are having to sleep in. We do live in a country that was founded on Biblical principles...but has now been terribly fragmented by various philosophies. Look around...see the chaos. Your philosophies have fragmented as much as anything else......hell you ENCOURAGE the fragmenting by making yourselves separate from everyone else. So before you wanna talk about fragmenting, look in the mirror k? Not to mention you got fragmenting in your OWN belief system.......doesn't speak well for it if you ask me if you can't even agree on what you believe in. and we were NOT founded on biblical principles, we were meant to have freedom of religion.......and church and state were meant to be separate. You're spouting something you don't know anything about. |
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...in any case,, I clearly see an anti christian agenda spreading, a very worldly PUBLIC culture being adopted in its place,, and for that reason I choose to send my child to private or christian education when I Can so that she is not endoctrinated into worldly ways,,,,so completely Yes, there will be many who will someday regret their efforts in silencing the Lord's Church in America. Seriously? --That does sound like a threat, and I'm not surprised. I've heard threats coming from Christians quite often. But your threat is uncalled for. No one is trying to "silence" anyone!! You can preach your religion as much as you want. But in order for freedom of religion to remain in this country you cannot insist on preaching it AT A PUBLIC EVENT OR PUBLIC SCHOOL. P.S. praying to your God in an OFFICIAL CAPACITY at a public event is the same as preaching. If you want to live in a country that is run by a religion, then become a Muslim and move to a Muslim country run by Muslim zealots. Or move to Israel and live according to their Jewish religious laws. And by the way, many government functions still do it anyway. Strange...how you see a threat from my last statement. The threat is the philosophy you have chosen. You're making a bed you are having to sleep in. We do live in a country that was founded on Biblical principles...but has now been terribly fragmented by various philosophies. Look around...see the chaos. Your philosophies have fragmented as much as anything else......hell you ENCOURAGE the fragmenting by making yourselves separate from everyone else. So before you wanna talk about fragmenting, look in the mirror k? Not to mention you got fragmenting in your OWN belief system.......doesn't speak well for it if you ask me if you can't even agree on what you believe in. and we were NOT founded on biblical principles, we were meant to have freedom of religion.......and church and state were meant to be separate. You're spouting something you don't know anything about. BIBLE INSPIRED AMERICA'S FOUNDING DOCUMENTS The United States of America was built upon three fundamental documents: The Declaration of Independence, The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Taken together, these documents form the basis of all our laws, principles and heritage. To destroy the principles contained in these documents is to destroy the country. Unfortunately, that is exactly what has been happening for many years now. The destruction of America's founding principles can be directly traced to the country's willful rejection of the Bible as our source of divine authority. America has done more than expel God and the Bible from our schools; it has expelled God and the Bible from politics, commerce, and even our very way of life. Should it be any wonder then that our founding documents are also being expunged? After all, America's founding documents are themselves predicated upon God and the Bible. The Declaration of Independence states, "[Men] are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." It also states that these rights are "self evident" and that they constitute the "Laws of Nature." These principles are taken directly from the Bible. The Law of Nature can be viewed in Romans 2:14-16. That our Creator is the Author of life is seen in Genesis 2:7. That God, not government, grants liberty is seen in Galatians 5:1. The "pursuit of happiness" is found in Ecclesiastes 3:13. Beyond that, virtually every one of the ten articles contained in the Bill of Rights has Biblical foundation. The First Amendment recognizes the natural right of freedom of speech, religion and assembly. Christians are clearly given divine instruction regarding each of these responsibilities. Our founding documents properly established a government designed to "secure these rights." Therefore, under the First Amendment, Christians are free to preach the Gospel and to assemble for worship. Likewise, the Second Amendment has Biblical foundation. Our Lord said in Luke 11:21, "When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace." In Luke 22:35, 36 He said, "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Other articles contained in the Bill of Rights also have Biblical basis. For example, the Fourth Amendment comes from Deuteronomy 24:10, 11. The Eighth Amendment originates in Deuteronomy 15: 2, 3. Again, these principles are "self evident" truths which come from "the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God." Even America's constitutional form of government consisting of three co-equal branches, legislative, executive and judicial is taken directly from Isaiah 33:22. Therefore, when citizens, especially Christian citizens, allow their elected representatives to ignore or violate these founding documents, they are in essence allowing them to destroy the very basis and foundation of our country. Christian citizens should demand that their elected leaders not merely talk like Christians, but that they actually govern like Christians. That means holding their political leaders accountable to the laws and principles contained in the Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. However, elected leaders from both parties today are totally ignoring or egregiously violating the laws and principles contained in our founding documents. As such, they are helping to destroy this republic, all of their Christian rhetoric notwithstanding. But that's not their fault-it's ours! © 2003 Chuck Baldwin - All Rights Reserved http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin114.htm |
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For what it is worth . . .
The Salah is one of the five pillars of Islam, which all Muslims are required to conform to. In order for Muslim children to conform to the Salah, they have to be able to pray toward Mecca just after noontime (the dhuhr prayer), and they have to do so every day. I see nothing unreasonable about a public school enabling Muslim children to participate in the dhuhr prayers that their faith requires of them. As for allowing Muslim children in public schools to attend the jumu'ah each Friday, one could argue that attending the jumu'ah is a requirement for Muslim adults but not Muslim juveniles. As for accommodating Christian students, there really isn't anything in the New Testament that public schools need to accommodate for. Nowhere does the New Testament require that Christian children have a formal time of prayer during a school day. Nowhere does the New Testament require that Christian children attend a Bible study during a school day. The Christian faith simply does not have the same rigid requirements that Islam has. |
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...in any case,, I clearly see an anti christian agenda spreading, a very worldly PUBLIC culture being adopted in its place,, and for that reason I choose to send my child to private or christian education when I Can so that she is not endoctrinated into worldly ways,,,,so completely Yes, there will be many who will someday regret their efforts in silencing the Lord's Church in America. Seriously? --That does sound like a threat, and I'm not surprised. I've heard threats coming from Christians quite often. But your threat is uncalled for. No one is trying to "silence" anyone!! You can preach your religion as much as you want. But in order for freedom of religion to remain in this country you cannot insist on preaching it AT A PUBLIC EVENT OR PUBLIC SCHOOL. P.S. praying to your God in an OFFICIAL CAPACITY at a public event is the same as preaching. If you want to live in a country that is run by a religion, then become a Muslim and move to a Muslim country run by Muslim zealots. Or move to Israel and live according to their Jewish religious laws. And by the way, many government functions still do it anyway. Strange...how you see a threat from my last statement. The threat is the philosophy you have chosen. You're making a bed you are having to sleep in. We do live in a country that was founded on Biblical principles...but has now been terribly fragmented by various philosophies. Look around...see the chaos. Your philosophies have fragmented as much as anything else......hell you ENCOURAGE the fragmenting by making yourselves separate from everyone else. So before you wanna talk about fragmenting, look in the mirror k? Not to mention you got fragmenting in your OWN belief system.......doesn't speak well for it if you ask me if you can't even agree on what you believe in. and we were NOT founded on biblical principles, we were meant to have freedom of religion.......and church and state were meant to be separate. You're spouting something you don't know anything about. BIBLE INSPIRED AMERICA'S FOUNDING DOCUMENTS The United States of America was built upon three fundamental documents: The Declaration of Independence, The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Taken together, these documents form the basis of all our laws, principles and heritage. To destroy the principles contained in these documents is to destroy the country. Unfortunately, that is exactly what has been happening for many years now. The destruction of America's founding principles can be directly traced to the country's willful rejection of the Bible as our source of divine authority. America has done more than expel God and the Bible from our schools; it has expelled God and the Bible from politics, commerce, and even our very way of life. Should it be any wonder then that our founding documents are also being expunged? After all, America's founding documents are themselves predicated upon God and the Bible. The Declaration of Independence states, "[Men] are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." It also states that these rights are "self evident" and that they constitute the "Laws of Nature." These principles are taken directly from the Bible. The Law of Nature can be viewed in Romans 2:14-16. That our Creator is the Author of life is seen in Genesis 2:7. That God, not government, grants liberty is seen in Galatians 5:1. The "pursuit of happiness" is found in Ecclesiastes 3:13. Beyond that, virtually every one of the ten articles contained in the Bill of Rights has Biblical foundation. The First Amendment recognizes the natural right of freedom of speech, religion and assembly. Christians are clearly given divine instruction regarding each of these responsibilities. Our founding documents properly established a government designed to "secure these rights." Therefore, under the First Amendment, Christians are free to preach the Gospel and to assemble for worship. Likewise, the Second Amendment has Biblical foundation. Our Lord said in Luke 11:21, "When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace." In Luke 22:35, 36 He said, "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Other articles contained in the Bill of Rights also have Biblical basis. For example, the Fourth Amendment comes from Deuteronomy 24:10, 11. The Eighth Amendment originates in Deuteronomy 15: 2, 3. Again, these principles are "self evident" truths which come from "the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God." Even America's constitutional form of government consisting of three co-equal branches, legislative, executive and judicial is taken directly from Isaiah 33:22. Therefore, when citizens, especially Christian citizens, allow their elected representatives to ignore or violate these founding documents, they are in essence allowing them to destroy the very basis and foundation of our country. Christian citizens should demand that their elected leaders not merely talk like Christians, but that they actually govern like Christians. That means holding their political leaders accountable to the laws and principles contained in the Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. However, elected leaders from both parties today are totally ignoring or egregiously violating the laws and principles contained in our founding documents. As such, they are helping to destroy this republic, all of their Christian rhetoric notwithstanding. But that's not their fault-it's ours! © 2003 Chuck Baldwin - All Rights Reserved http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin114.htm And that's written by a PASTOR......but of course he could never be biased now could he? Course not........ |
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And that's written by a PASTOR......but of course he could never be biased now could he? Course not........
Actually, that "pastor" is more like a modern-day Protestant pharisee. Like the Jewish pharisees of antiquity who read into the Tanak things that weren't there, modern-day Protestant pharisees read into the U.S. Constitution things that aren't there. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Fri 06/14/13 07:43 PM
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...in any case,, I clearly see an anti christian agenda spreading, a very worldly PUBLIC culture being adopted in its place,, and for that reason I choose to send my child to private or christian education when I Can so that she is not endoctrinated into worldly ways,,,,so completely Yes, there will be many who will someday regret their efforts in silencing the Lord's Church in America. Seriously? --That does sound like a threat, and I'm not surprised. I've heard threats coming from Christians quite often. But your threat is uncalled for. No one is trying to "silence" anyone!! You can preach your religion as much as you want. But in order for freedom of religion to remain in this country you cannot insist on preaching it AT A PUBLIC EVENT OR PUBLIC SCHOOL. P.S. praying to your God in an OFFICIAL CAPACITY at a public event is the same as preaching. If you want to live in a country that is run by a religion, then become a Muslim and move to a Muslim country run by Muslim zealots. Or move to Israel and live according to their Jewish religious laws. And by the way, many government functions still do it anyway. Strange...how you see a threat from my last statement. The threat is the philosophy you have chosen. You're making a bed you are having to sleep in. We do live in a country that was founded on Biblical principles ...but has now been terribly fragmented by various philosophies. Look around...see the chaos? Yes, there will be many who will someday regret their efforts in spreading myths and silencing the truth. I have no problem with some Biblical principles, like "love they enemy" But apparently since there are three major religions based on the Bible who continue to hate and make war with each other, I see that is where the chaos is coming from. |
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But apparently since there are three major religions based on the Bible who continue to hate and make war with each other, I see that is where the chaos is coming from.
The Christian faith doesn't promote hate or war. |
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in any case,, I clearly see an anti christian agenda spreading, a very worldly PUBLIC culture being adopted in its place,, and for that reason It's not anti-christian......it's anti-pushing your morality onto everyone else, there is a difference. This is NOT about you, you can believe anything you want, but you should not have the right to make everyone else believe it with you. Keep it personal. there is no such thing as not pushing morality,, its just WHICH morality is pushed I dont care for the type being endoctrinated into the schools,,, thats my perogative,,, it is personal, that is why it is my personal choice to send my child to such schools,,, others have the same personal choice with their children |
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...in any case,, I clearly see an anti christian agenda spreading, a very worldly PUBLIC culture being adopted in its place,, and for that reason I choose to send my child to private or christian education when I Can so that she is not endoctrinated into worldly ways,,,,so completely Yes, there will be many who will someday regret their efforts in silencing the Lord's Church in America. Seriously? --That does sound like a threat, and I'm not surprised. I've heard threats coming from Christians quite often. But your threat is uncalled for. No one is trying to "silence" anyone!! You can preach your religion as much as you want. But in order for freedom of religion to remain in this country you cannot insist on preaching it AT A PUBLIC EVENT OR PUBLIC SCHOOL. P.S. praying to your God in an OFFICIAL CAPACITY at a public event is the same as preaching. If you want to live in a country that is run by a religion, then become a Muslim and move to a Muslim country run by Muslim zealots. Or move to Israel and live according to their Jewish religious laws. And by the way, many government functions still do it anyway. Strange...how you see a threat from my last statement. The threat is the philosophy you have chosen. You're making a bed you are having to sleep in. We do live in a country that was founded on Biblical principles ...but has now been terribly fragmented by various philosophies. Look around...see the chaos? Yes, there will be many who will someday regret their efforts in spreading myths and silencing the truth. I have no problem with some Biblical principles, like "love they enemy" But apparently since there are three major religions based on the Bible who continue to hate and make war with each other, I see that is where the chaos is coming from. The three major religions you are thinking of are not all based on the Bible. The only one that would make that claim would be Christianity. The Bible is a book that includes the origin of all men and their final destination. It is a history book and it is prophetic. |
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...in any case,, I clearly see an anti christian agenda spreading, a very worldly PUBLIC culture being adopted in its place,, and for that reason I choose to send my child to private or christian education when I Can so that she is not endoctrinated into worldly ways,,,,so completely Yes, there will be many who will someday regret their efforts in silencing the Lord's Church in America. Seriously? --That does sound like a threat, and I'm not surprised. I've heard threats coming from Christians quite often. But your threat is uncalled for. No one is trying to "silence" anyone!! You can preach your religion as much as you want. But in order for freedom of religion to remain in this country you cannot insist on preaching it AT A PUBLIC EVENT OR PUBLIC SCHOOL. P.S. praying to your God in an OFFICIAL CAPACITY at a public event is the same as preaching. If you want to live in a country that is run by a religion, then become a Muslim and move to a Muslim country run by Muslim zealots. Or move to Israel and live according to their Jewish religious laws. And by the way, many government functions still do it anyway. Strange...how you see a threat from my last statement. The threat is the philosophy you have chosen. You're making a bed you are having to sleep in. We do live in a country that was founded on Biblical principles ...but has now been terribly fragmented by various philosophies. Look around...see the chaos? Yes, there will be many who will someday regret their efforts in spreading myths and silencing the truth. I have no problem with some Biblical principles, like "love they enemy" But apparently since there are three major religions based on the Bible who continue to hate and make war with each other, I see that is where the chaos is coming from. The three major religions you are thinking of are not all based on the Bible. The only one that would make that claim would be Christianity. The Bible is a book that includes the origin of all men and their final destination. It is a history book and it is prophetic. Yes They are all based on the Bible. And they all depend on the myth of Abraham and King David to even exist. |
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in any case,, I clearly see an anti christian agenda spreading, a very worldly PUBLIC culture being adopted in its place,, and for that reason It's not anti-christian......it's anti-pushing your morality onto everyone else, there is a difference. This is NOT about you, you can believe anything you want, but you should not have the right to make everyone else believe it with you. Keep it personal. there is no such thing as not pushing morality,, its just WHICH morality is pushed I dont care for the type being endoctrinated into the schools,,, thats my perogative,,, it is personal, that is why it is my personal choice to send my child to such schools,,, If it's personal than it should STAY with you, the moment you try and force it on someone else (and being exposed to is not the same as forcing you to believe it fyi), you cross that line. If it's personal to you, don't involve others in it. Simple. Frankly I think the fact that you are so afraid of your kids being taught other idea speaks to your own insecurities about your parenting skills. If you raised them right what others tell them would be of no consequence right? What is there to fear if you did your job? |
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...in any case,, I clearly see an anti christian agenda spreading, a very worldly PUBLIC culture being adopted in its place,, and for that reason I choose to send my child to private or christian education when I Can so that she is not endoctrinated into worldly ways,,,,so completely Yes, there will be many who will someday regret their efforts in silencing the Lord's Church in America. Seriously? --That does sound like a threat, and I'm not surprised. I've heard threats coming from Christians quite often. But your threat is uncalled for. No one is trying to "silence" anyone!! You can preach your religion as much as you want. But in order for freedom of religion to remain in this country you cannot insist on preaching it AT A PUBLIC EVENT OR PUBLIC SCHOOL. P.S. praying to your God in an OFFICIAL CAPACITY at a public event is the same as preaching. If you want to live in a country that is run by a religion, then become a Muslim and move to a Muslim country run by Muslim zealots. Or move to Israel and live according to their Jewish religious laws. And by the way, many government functions still do it anyway. Strange...how you see a threat from my last statement. The threat is the philosophy you have chosen. You're making a bed you are having to sleep in. We do live in a country that was founded on Biblical principles ...but has now been terribly fragmented by various philosophies. Look around...see the chaos? Yes, there will be many who will someday regret their efforts in spreading myths and silencing the truth. I have no problem with some Biblical principles, like "love they enemy" But apparently since there are three major religions based on the Bible who continue to hate and make war with each other, I see that is where the chaos is coming from. The three major religions you are thinking of are not all based on the Bible. The only one that would make that claim would be Christianity. The Bible is a book that includes the origin of all men and their final destination. It is a history book and it is prophetic. Yes They are all based on the Bible. And they all depend on the myth of Abraham and King David to even exist. Yep, and there is no evidence of it, let alone evidence of anything else the Bible claims true. A true history book needs the evidence to support it to be factual, the Bible fails that test miserably. |
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