Topic: Bradley Manning
mightymoe's photo
Sat 06/08/13 07:44 AM

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SS made this statement and nobody has addressed it.

The treason here is not on his part! It is on the part of those who committed these acts in the name of the American people!

Address the atrocities carried out by men taking orders from men higher up the ladder. People are being murdered in your names and mine on a daily basis. I say no to murder, what say you.



thats called an opinion, and it doesn't really matter... are you a lawyer that deals in war crimes? what makes you such an expert on what war crimes or not by looking at a 15 year old piece of footage, and you decide they are war crimes...

your looking at footage that you don't know if it has been edited or not, and then you make judgement calls... the treason was solely on him, and only him...

everything your saying is just your opinion, and means very little to the USMC, people that are experts on what is and what is not war crimes...
Dude you are so wrong and misinformed on so many levels its hardly worth the words. The Geneva convention and Terms of Nuremburg binds this country to certain standards and if it makes you feel better our entire government Dems amd repubs are both guilty as hell. Lets not leave out our so called media watchdogs, what a wretched joke this country has become.
amazing how you refuse to understand the difference between an opinion and fact



Men of conscience have opinions.


opinions are good, i never have a problem with anyone's opinion...it's when people don't realize the difference between opinion and fact that bothers me...

no photo
Sat 06/08/13 07:57 AM


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SS made this statement and nobody has addressed it.

The treason here is not on his part! It is on the part of those who committed these acts in the name of the American people!

Address the atrocities carried out by men taking orders from men higher up the ladder. People are being murdered in your names and mine on a daily basis. I say no to murder, what say you.



thats called an opinion, and it doesn't really matter... are you a lawyer that deals in war crimes? what makes you such an expert on what war crimes or not by looking at a 15 year old piece of footage, and you decide they are war crimes...

your looking at footage that you don't know if it has been edited or not, and then you make judgement calls... the treason was solely on him, and only him...

everything your saying is just your opinion, and means very little to the USMC, people that are experts on what is and what is not war crimes...
Dude you are so wrong and misinformed on so many levels its hardly worth the words. The Geneva convention and Terms of Nuremburg binds this country to certain standards and if it makes you feel better our entire government Dems amd repubs are both guilty as hell. Lets not leave out our so called media watchdogs, what a wretched joke this country has become.
amazing how you refuse to understand the difference between an opinion and fact



Men of conscience have opinions.


opinions are good, i never have a problem with anyone's opinion...it's when people don't realize the difference between opinion and fact that bothers me...


I completely agree with your opinion....

mightymoe's photo
Sat 06/08/13 01:22 PM



I





SS made this statement and nobody has addressed it.

The treason here is not on his part! It is on the part of those who committed these acts in the name of the American people!

Address the atrocities carried out by men taking orders from men higher up the ladder. People are being murdered in your names and mine on a daily basis. I say no to murder, what say you.



thats called an opinion, and it doesn't really matter... are you a lawyer that deals in war crimes? what makes you such an expert on what war crimes or not by looking at a 15 year old piece of footage, and you decide they are war crimes...

your looking at footage that you don't know if it has been edited or not, and then you make judgement calls... the treason was solely on him, and only him...

everything your saying is just your opinion, and means very little to the USMC, people that are experts on what is and what is not war crimes...
Dude you are so wrong and misinformed on so many levels its hardly worth the words. The Geneva convention and Terms of Nuremburg binds this country to certain standards and if it makes you feel better our entire government Dems amd repubs are both guilty as hell. Lets not leave out our so called media watchdogs, what a wretched joke this country has become.
amazing how you refuse to understand the difference between an opinion and fact



Men of conscience have opinions.


opinions are good, i never have a problem with anyone's opinion...it's when people don't realize the difference between opinion and fact that bothers me...


I completely agree with your opinion....


love love i have more opinions too...

boredinaz06's photo
Sat 06/08/13 10:12 PM




i think he should be commended for what he did. I doubt he read every page before releasing those papers and I don't care due to the fact that the sheetheads who voted for things didn't read every page before voting on them.

Bestinshow's photo
Sun 06/09/13 10:39 AM


I





SS made this statement and nobody has addressed it.

The treason here is not on his part! It is on the part of those who committed these acts in the name of the American people!

Address the atrocities carried out by men taking orders from men higher up the ladder. People are being murdered in your names and mine on a daily basis. I say no to murder, what say you.



thats called an opinion, and it doesn't really matter... are you a lawyer that deals in war crimes? what makes you such an expert on what war crimes or not by looking at a 15 year old piece of footage, and you decide they are war crimes...

your looking at footage that you don't know if it has been edited or not, and then you make judgement calls... the treason was solely on him, and only him...

everything your saying is just your opinion, and means very little to the USMC, people that are experts on what is and what is not war crimes...
Dude you are so wrong and misinformed on so many levels its hardly worth the words. The Geneva convention and Terms of Nuremburg binds this country to certain standards and if it makes you feel better our entire government Dems amd repubs are both guilty as hell. Lets not leave out our so called media watchdogs, what a wretched joke this country has become.
amazing how you refuse to understand the difference between an opinion and fact



Men of conscience have opinions.


opinions are good, i never have a problem with anyone's opinion...it's when people don't realize the difference between opinion and fact that bothers me...
I am sure this topic assaults your reality, I remember when I was a kid and found out Santa Clause was a fraud.

MoonsDragonLionWolf's photo
Sun 06/09/13 01:18 PM



I





SS made this statement and nobody has addressed it.

The treason here is not on his part! It is on the part of those who committed these acts in the name of the American people!

Address the atrocities carried out by men taking orders from men higher up the ladder. People are being murdered in your names and mine on a daily basis. I say no to murder, what say you.



thats called an opinion, and it doesn't really matter... are you a lawyer that deals in war crimes? what makes you such an expert on what war crimes or not by looking at a 15 year old piece of footage, and you decide they are war crimes...

your looking at footage that you don't know if it has been edited or not, and then you make judgement calls... the treason was solely on him, and only him...

everything your saying is just your opinion, and means very little to the USMC, people that are experts on what is and what is not war crimes...
Dude you are so wrong and misinformed on so many levels its hardly worth the words. The Geneva convention and Terms of Nuremburg binds this country to certain standards and if it makes you feel better our entire government Dems amd repubs are both guilty as hell. Lets not leave out our so called media watchdogs, what a wretched joke this country has become.
amazing how you refuse to understand the difference between an opinion and fact



Men of conscience have opinions.


opinions are good, i never have a problem with anyone's opinion...it's when people don't realize the difference between opinion and fact that bothers me...
I am sure this topic assaults your reality, I remember when I was a kid and found out Santa Clause was a fraud.


Santa Claus is real! whoa
He just has a lot of imposters!

mightymoe's photo
Mon 06/10/13 08:07 AM



I





SS made this statement and nobody has addressed it.

The treason here is not on his part! It is on the part of those who committed these acts in the name of the American people!

Address the atrocities carried out by men taking orders from men higher up the ladder. People are being murdered in your names and mine on a daily basis. I say no to murder, what say you.



thats called an opinion, and it doesn't really matter... are you a lawyer that deals in war crimes? what makes you such an expert on what war crimes or not by looking at a 15 year old piece of footage, and you decide they are war crimes...

your looking at footage that you don't know if it has been edited or not, and then you make judgement calls... the treason was solely on him, and only him...

everything your saying is just your opinion, and means very little to the USMC, people that are experts on what is and what is not war crimes...
Dude you are so wrong and misinformed on so many levels its hardly worth the words. The Geneva convention and Terms of Nuremburg binds this country to certain standards and if it makes you feel better our entire government Dems amd repubs are both guilty as hell. Lets not leave out our so called media watchdogs, what a wretched joke this country has become.
amazing how you refuse to understand the difference between an opinion and fact



Men of conscience have opinions.


opinions are good, i never have a problem with anyone's opinion...it's when people don't realize the difference between opinion and fact that bothers me...
I am sure this topic assaults your reality, I remember when I was a kid and found out Santa Clause was a fraud.


lol... sad thing is that i can see reality, whereas all you see is blatant hatred for some ex president that means nothing to anyone anymore... maybe someday you will wake up and see it really doesn't matter who the president is...

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 06/10/13 08:12 AM
Guess by now Manning must be looking in the Mirror and say:"Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into,Brad"!

mightymoe's photo
Mon 06/10/13 08:28 AM

Guess by now Manning must be looking in the Mirror and say:"Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into,Brad"!


was it worth it?

no, nothing has changed, and nothing will... he threw his life away for nothing...

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 06/10/13 08:41 AM


Guess by now Manning must be looking in the Mirror and say:"Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into,Brad"!


was it worth it?

no, nothing has changed, and nothing will... he threw his life away for nothing...
:thumbsup: It's just plain dumb playing the Martyr!slaphead

HappyBun's photo
Mon 06/10/13 10:35 AM
Edited by HappyBun on Mon 06/10/13 10:55 AM


Guess by now Manning must be looking in the Mirror and say:"Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into,Brad"!


was it worth it?

no, nothing has changed, and nothing will... he threw his life away for nothing...
If more people supported him he would be hailed as a hero. The reason nothing has changed is people are too scared to speak out and more people keep quoting rules and regulations. To hell with rules and regulations, Bradley Manning exposed a terrible wrong and was right to do so, just because people have no balls to support him he will suffer at the hands of the very people you all complain about on a daily basis. Your Government is corrupt, do something about it, support the likes of Bradley Manning who may be naieve but he has done the right thing. The people have the power but are too scared to use it. Speak up, Speak out, don't be ruled by the rich and powerful.

HappyBun's photo
Mon 06/10/13 11:02 AM
Edward Snowden who leaked the scandal of the NSAs info gathering of ordinary American Citizens has fled the United States. There is no legal mechanism left to challenge the crimes of the power elite. The draconian trial restrictions placed on Bradley Mannings trial will ensure that he is found guilty.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 06/10/13 01:22 PM

Edward Snowden who leaked the scandal of the NSAs info gathering of ordinary American Citizens has fled the United States. There is no legal mechanism left to challenge the crimes of the power elite. The draconian trial restrictions placed on Bradley Mannings trial will ensure that he is found guilty.


be honest with ya, i think Snowden would be more a "hero" than bradley... snowden found crimes that effect the whole of the US, where bradley dumped war secrets out... they'll hang bradley, he is more guilty than snowden

HappyBun's photo
Mon 06/10/13 02:18 PM


Edward Snowden who leaked the scandal of the NSAs info gathering of ordinary American Citizens has fled the United States. There is no legal mechanism left to challenge the crimes of the power elite. The draconian trial restrictions placed on Bradley Mannings trial will ensure that he is found guilty.


be honest with ya, i think Snowden would be more a "hero" than bradley... snowden found crimes that effect the whole of the US, where bradley dumped war secrets out... they'll hang bradley, he is more guilty than snowden
Now that is interesting. Two whistleblowers. One reveals the collecting of information by the US government on its citizens. The other reveals an American Soldier gunning down twelve civillians two of which were Journalists working for reuters plus two severly wounded children. One is a war crime,the other an infringment of privacy.There is nothing secret about Murder.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 06/10/13 02:25 PM



Edward Snowden who leaked the scandal of the NSAs info gathering of ordinary American Citizens has fled the United States. There is no legal mechanism left to challenge the crimes of the power elite. The draconian trial restrictions placed on Bradley Mannings trial will ensure that he is found guilty.


be honest with ya, i think Snowden would be more a "hero" than bradley... snowden found crimes that effect the whole of the US, where bradley dumped war secrets out... they'll hang bradley, he is more guilty than snowden
Now that is interesting. Two whistleblowers. One reveals the collecting of information by the US government on its citizens. The other reveals an American Soldier gunning down twelve civillians two of which were Journalists working for reuters plus two severly wounded children. One is a war crime,the other an infringment of privacy.There is nothing secret about Murder.


it's a matter of opinion... since me or you are not qualified to say what is or isn't war crimes, he can't really say what he did helped anything... you call it murder, but war is hell... obviously we don't know all the details, so why talk about something you don't know about? the NSA blatantly overstepping the constitution is a more serious matter, something that can shake the whole infrastructure of the US... so you think the killing of a few people in a war, which you know no details of, is more important than the government going against the constitution?

HappyBun's photo
Mon 06/10/13 02:43 PM



it's a matter of opinion... since me or you are not qualified to say what is or isn't war crimes, he can't really say what he did helped anything... you call it murder, but war is hell... obviously we don't know all the details, so why talk about something you don't know about? the NSA blatantly overstepping the constitution is a more serious matter, something that can shake the whole infrastructure of the US... so you think the killing of a few people in a war, which you know no details of, is more important than the government going against the constitution?


If Manning was allowed a fair trial he could easily prove war crimes. The lynch mob are out for blood. He is not allowed to appeal to the Nuremberg Principles. The Nuremberg Laws would clearly condem the Collateral Murder pilots. So the decent way out of this is to exonerate Manning and let the pilots go free as well.

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Mon 06/10/13 03:32 PM
Sloppy job on the part of the pilots. Very sloppy. So you don't dare carry around camera equipment in a war zone or you are liable to get wacked by bored chopper pilots looking for a target.

As far as the sacred "top secret" clearances... the military gives those out to every new recruit with a wet nose... big freaking deal. And they make it out to be a big deal. The reason they do that is because the freaks don't want anyone in the civilian world to know the s.h.i.t.t.y things they are doing over there or how sloppy and incompetent and careless they are in regards to human life.

Too many things we are doing is "classified." If our guys were doing the right things, shooting the bad guys, then it should have no reason to be classified.

The man did what was right and he is a hero. For anyone who thinks he should join in protecting the evil empire's war crimes just because he had a security clearance or contract to keep quiet, you don't know the first thing about contracts. The military broke their contract first by their crimes.

The man is a hero and I would hope there were more of them, but unfortunately there are not. I know a guy who shoots targets with drones over there all the time and he loves killing people. He gets a big bang out of it. To those killers, its just a video game with real people. And yes, he has top security clearances.








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Mon 06/10/13 03:46 PM

Military laws and rights are different from civilians laws and rights.
If you leak that kind of intel while you're in the military expect the hammer to be brought down upon your head.





21 years old. Wow, a babe in the woods. Technically your brain has not completely finished developing. The military Industrial complex would love to have that brain to mold into one of their killers. And providing you have stayed out of trouble they might even give you a top security clearance. Then you can go in there and witness war crimes and keep your mouth shut about it until you are injured and dumped into society as another disabled vet whom they don't have time to process your benefits and you can't find work.

I see a bright future for you. I hope you don't take that road.








Bestinshow's photo
Mon 06/10/13 04:50 PM



Edward Snowden who leaked the scandal of the NSAs info gathering of ordinary American Citizens has fled the United States. There is no legal mechanism left to challenge the crimes of the power elite. The draconian trial restrictions placed on Bradley Mannings trial will ensure that he is found guilty.


be honest with ya, i think Snowden would be more a "hero" than bradley... snowden found crimes that effect the whole of the US, where bradley dumped war secrets out... they'll hang bradley, he is more guilty than snowden
Now that is interesting. Two whistleblowers. One reveals the collecting of information by the US government on its citizens. The other reveals an American Soldier gunning down twelve civillians two of which were Journalists working for reuters plus two severly wounded children. One is a war crime,the other an infringment of privacy.There is nothing secret about Murder.
Logic will not break down the programing some people are just to far gone.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 06/10/13 05:30 PM




it's a matter of opinion... since me or you are not qualified to say what is or isn't war crimes, he can't really say what he did helped anything... you call it murder, but war is hell... obviously we don't know all the details, so why talk about something you don't know about? the NSA blatantly overstepping the constitution is a more serious matter, something that can shake the whole infrastructure of the US... so you think the killing of a few people in a war, which you know no details of, is more important than the government going against the constitution?


If Manning was allowed a fair trial he could easily prove war crimes. The lynch mob are out for blood. He is not allowed to appeal to the Nuremberg Principles. The Nuremberg Laws would clearly condem the Collateral Murder pilots. So the decent way out of this is to exonerate Manning and let the pilots go free as well.


opinion / facts...sadly, nothing is fact in what you said... easily? ... if it were easy, how many lawyers would be lined up to take that case?... it's only easy for the prosecution now...