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Military laws and rights are different from civilians laws and rights. If you leak that kind of intel while you're in the military expect the hammer to be brought down upon your head. That is not the question here. What was "RIGHT" is. The constitution is the law of the land that ALL other laws fall or come under What is right is not the law. If the military went by what was right than our national security would be screwed. So therefore your argument about what's right and what's wrong is irrelevant. Might I advise some reading for you..... it's call the Constitution Might I advise some reading for you. It's called martial law. The constitution does not apply to someone in the military leaking that kind of intel which could fall into the hands of potential enemies. In which it did. |
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Military laws and rights are different from civilians laws and rights. If you leak that kind of intel while you're in the military expect the hammer to be brought down upon your head. That is not the question here. What was "RIGHT" is. The constitution is the law of the land that ALL other laws fall or come under What is right is not the law. If the military went by what was right than our national security would be screwed. So therefore your argument about what's right and what's wrong is irrelevant. Might I advise some reading for you..... it's call the Constitution Might I advise some reading for you. It's called martial law. The constitution does not apply to someone in the military leaking that kind of intel which could fall into the hands of potential enemies. In which it did.  How TOTALLY misinformed you are
We ARE NOT under Martial Law, and the military does NOT dictate the law of the land! |
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Military laws and rights are different from civilians laws and rights. If you leak that kind of intel while you're in the military expect the hammer to be brought down upon your head. That is not the question here. What was "RIGHT" is. The constitution is the law of the land that ALL other laws fall or come under What is right is not the law. If the military went by what was right than our national security would be screwed. So therefore your argument about what's right and what's wrong is irrelevant. Might I advise some reading for you..... it's call the Constitution Might I advise some reading for you. It's called martial law. The constitution does not apply to someone in the military leaking that kind of intel which could fall into the hands of potential enemies. In which it did. How TOTALLY misinformed you are
We ARE NOT under Martial Law, and the military does NOT dictate the law of the land! I'm not misinformed. Civilians aren't under martial law. Military is. The military doesn't dictate the laws of our land. The military dictates the laws of the military. Nice try though. 
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Military laws and rights are different from civilians laws and rights. If you leak that kind of intel while you're in the military expect the hammer to be brought down upon your head. That is not the question here. What was "RIGHT" is. The constitution is the law of the land that ALL other laws fall or come under What is right is not the law. If the military went by what was right than our national security would be screwed. So therefore your argument about what's right and what's wrong is irrelevant. Might I advise some reading for you..... it's call the Constitution Might I advise some reading for you. It's called martial law. The constitution does not apply to someone in the military leaking that kind of intel which could fall into the hands of potential enemies. In which it did. How TOTALLY misinformed you are
We ARE NOT under Martial Law, and the military does NOT dictate the law of the land! I'm not misinformed. Civilians aren't under martial law. Military is. The military doesn't dictate the laws of our land. The military dictates the laws of the military. Nice try though.
Actually, it's military law, not martial law you are talking about...The two are different... The Constitution grants to Congress the power to raise and support armies and a navy, to suppress insurrections, and repel invasion among other military-related governmental roles. Thus, the main source of legal authority in this area is federal law. Congress's control over formation, organization and government of the national armies is plenary and exclusive. Military law consists of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and other statutory provisions for the government of persons in the Armed Forces to which may be added the unwritten common law of the usage and custom of military service as well as regulations and authorized by the President as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces (See 10 U.S.C. § 121). It is a part of our body of law as a whole, and is fully recognized by civil courts; it is in force in time of peace as well as in time of war. All persons serving in the Armed Forces of the United States are subject to military law at all times. http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/military |
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Military laws and rights are different from civilians laws and rights. If you leak that kind of intel while you're in the military expect the hammer to be brought down upon your head. That is not the question here. What was "RIGHT" is. The constitution is the law of the land that ALL other laws fall or come under What is right is not the law. If the military went by what was right than our national security would be screwed. So therefore your argument about what's right and what's wrong is irrelevant. Might I advise some reading for you..... it's call the Constitution Might I advise some reading for you. It's called martial law. The constitution does not apply to someone in the military leaking that kind of intel which could fall into the hands of potential enemies. In which it did. How TOTALLY misinformed you are
We ARE NOT under Martial Law, and the military does NOT dictate the law of the land! I'm not misinformed. Civilians aren't under martial law. Military is. The military doesn't dictate the laws of our land. The military dictates the laws of the military. Nice try though.
Son, I think some serious reading is required on your part. The UCMJ NOT Martial Law is the dictate of the military BASED on its constitutional limits of authority Those power are subject to the protection or defense of our nation and the conduct of military personnel. IT DOES NOT SUPERCEDE THE CONSTITUTION! |
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Military laws and rights are different from civilians laws and rights. If you leak that kind of intel while you're in the military expect the hammer to be brought down upon your head. That is not the question here. What was "RIGHT" is. The constitution is the law of the land that ALL other laws fall or come under What is right is not the law. If the military went by what was right than our national security would be screwed. So therefore your argument about what's right and what's wrong is irrelevant. Might I advise some reading for you..... it's call the Constitution Might I advise some reading for you. It's called martial law. The constitution does not apply to someone in the military leaking that kind of intel which could fall into the hands of potential enemies. In which it did. How TOTALLY misinformed you are
We ARE NOT under Martial Law, and the military does NOT dictate the law of the land! I'm not misinformed. Civilians aren't under martial law. Military is. The military doesn't dictate the laws of our land. The military dictates the laws of the military. Nice try though.
Actually, it's military law, not martial law you are talking about...The two are different... The Constitution grants to Congress the power to raise and support armies and a navy, to suppress insurrections, and repel invasion among other military-related governmental roles. Thus, the main source of legal authority in this area is federal law. Congress's control over formation, organization and government of the national armies is plenary and exclusive. Military law consists of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and other statutory provisions for the government of persons in the Armed Forces to which may be added the unwritten common law of the usage and custom of military service as well as regulations and authorized by the President as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces (See 10 U.S.C. § 121). It is a part of our body of law as a whole, and is fully recognized by civil courts; it is in force in time of peace as well as in time of war. All persons serving in the Armed Forces of the United States are subject to military law at all times. http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/military Yeah, yeah, yeah. Blah, blah, blah. Lol. 
Point is civilians rights and laws are different from military rights and laws. Which is why Bradley Manning is being charged with aiding the enemy regardless of anyone who thinks it's right or wrong. He will have the hammer dropped on his head. |
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Military laws and rights are different from civilians laws and rights. If you leak that kind of intel while you're in the military expect the hammer to be brought down upon your head. That is not the question here. What was "RIGHT" is. The constitution is the law of the land that ALL other laws fall or come under What is right is not the law. If the military went by what was right than our national security would be screwed. So therefore your argument about what's right and what's wrong is irrelevant. Might I advise some reading for you..... it's call the Constitution Might I advise some reading for you. It's called martial law. The constitution does not apply to someone in the military leaking that kind of intel which could fall into the hands of potential enemies. In which it did. How TOTALLY misinformed you are
We ARE NOT under Martial Law, and the military does NOT dictate the law of the land! I'm not misinformed. Civilians aren't under martial law. Military is. The military doesn't dictate the laws of our land. The military dictates the laws of the military. Nice try though.
Actually, it's military law, not martial law you are talking about...The two are different... The Constitution grants to Congress the power to raise and support armies and a navy, to suppress insurrections, and repel invasion among other military-related governmental roles. Thus, the main source of legal authority in this area is federal law. Congress's control over formation, organization and government of the national armies is plenary and exclusive. Military law consists of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and other statutory provisions for the government of persons in the Armed Forces to which may be added the unwritten common law of the usage and custom of military service as well as regulations and authorized by the President as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces (See 10 U.S.C. § 121). It is a part of our body of law as a whole, and is fully recognized by civil courts; it is in force in time of peace as well as in time of war. All persons serving in the Armed Forces of the United States are subject to military law at all times. http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/military Yeah, yeah, yeah. Blah, blah, blah. Lol.
Point is civilians rights and laws are different from military rights and laws. Which is why Bradley Manning is being charged with aiding the enemy regardless of anyone who thinks it's right or wrong. He will have the hammer dropped on his head. I know.... 
Do you talk to your mother this way too? |
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Military laws and rights are different from civilians laws and rights. If you leak that kind of intel while you're in the military expect the hammer to be brought down upon your head. That is not the question here. What was "RIGHT" is. The constitution is the law of the land that ALL other laws fall or come under What is right is not the law. If the military went by what was right than our national security would be screwed. So therefore your argument about what's right and what's wrong is irrelevant. Might I advise some reading for you..... it's call the Constitution Might I advise some reading for you. It's called martial law. The constitution does not apply to someone in the military leaking that kind of intel which could fall into the hands of potential enemies. In which it did. How TOTALLY misinformed you are
We ARE NOT under Martial Law, and the military does NOT dictate the law of the land! I'm not misinformed. Civilians aren't under martial law. Military is. The military doesn't dictate the laws of our land. The military dictates the laws of the military. Nice try though.
Son, I think some serious reading is required on your part. The UCMJ NOT Martial Law is the dictate of the military BASED on its constitutional limits of authority Those power are subject to the protection or defense of our nation and the conduct of military personnel. IT DOES NOT SUPERCEDE THE CONSTITUTION! Son? 
You're my father?
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Military laws and rights are different from civilians laws and rights. If you leak that kind of intel while you're in the military expect the hammer to be brought down upon your head. That is not the question here. What was "RIGHT" is. The constitution is the law of the land that ALL other laws fall or come under What is right is not the law. If the military went by what was right than our national security would be screwed. So therefore your argument about what's right and what's wrong is irrelevant. Might I advise some reading for you..... it's call the Constitution Might I advise some reading for you. It's called martial law. The constitution does not apply to someone in the military leaking that kind of intel which could fall into the hands of potential enemies. In which it did. How TOTALLY misinformed you are
We ARE NOT under Martial Law, and the military does NOT dictate the law of the land! I'm not misinformed. Civilians aren't under martial law. Military is. The military doesn't dictate the laws of our land. The military dictates the laws of the military. Nice try though.
Actually, it's military law, not martial law you are talking about...The two are different... The Constitution grants to Congress the power to raise and support armies and a navy, to suppress insurrections, and repel invasion among other military-related governmental roles. Thus, the main source of legal authority in this area is federal law. Congress's control over formation, organization and government of the national armies is plenary and exclusive. Military law consists of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and other statutory provisions for the government of persons in the Armed Forces to which may be added the unwritten common law of the usage and custom of military service as well as regulations and authorized by the President as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces (See 10 U.S.C. § 121). It is a part of our body of law as a whole, and is fully recognized by civil courts; it is in force in time of peace as well as in time of war. All persons serving in the Armed Forces of the United States are subject to military law at all times. http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/military Yeah, yeah, yeah. Blah, blah, blah. Lol.
Point is civilians rights and laws are different from military rights and laws. Which is why Bradley Manning is being charged with aiding the enemy regardless of anyone who thinks it's right or wrong. He will have the hammer dropped on his head. I know....
Do you talk to your mother this way too? I don't talk to my mother. I talk to myself.
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Sojourning_Soul
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Fri 06/07/13 11:31 AM
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Military laws and rights are different from civilians laws and rights. If you leak that kind of intel while you're in the military expect the hammer to be brought down upon your head. That is not the question here. What was "RIGHT" is. The constitution is the law of the land that ALL other laws fall or come under What is right is not the law. If the military went by what was right than our national security would be screwed. So therefore your argument about what's right and what's wrong is irrelevant. Might I advise some reading for you..... it's call the Constitution Might I advise some reading for you. It's called martial law. The constitution does not apply to someone in the military leaking that kind of intel which could fall into the hands of potential enemies. In which it did. How TOTALLY misinformed you are
We ARE NOT under Martial Law, and the military does NOT dictate the law of the land! I'm not misinformed. Civilians aren't under martial law. Military is. The military doesn't dictate the laws of our land. The military dictates the laws of the military. Nice try though.
Son, I think some serious reading is required on your part. The UCMJ NOT Martial Law is the dictate of the military BASED on its constitutional limits of authority Those power are subject to the protection or defense of our nation and the conduct of military personnel. IT DOES NOT SUPERCEDE THE CONSTITUTION! Son?
You're my father?
I'm a 63 yr old USMC war veteran, citizen and patriot.... son 
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Military laws and rights are different from civilians laws and rights. If you leak that kind of intel while you're in the military expect the hammer to be brought down upon your head. That is not the question here. What was "RIGHT" is. The constitution is the law of the land that ALL other laws fall or come under What is right is not the law. If the military went by what was right than our national security would be screwed. So therefore your argument about what's right and what's wrong is irrelevant. Might I advise some reading for you..... it's call the Constitution Might I advise some reading for you. It's called martial law. The constitution does not apply to someone in the military leaking that kind of intel which could fall into the hands of potential enemies. In which it did. How TOTALLY misinformed you are
We ARE NOT under Martial Law, and the military does NOT dictate the law of the land! I'm not misinformed. Civilians aren't under martial law. Military is. The military doesn't dictate the laws of our land. The military dictates the laws of the military. Nice try though.
Son, I think some serious reading is required on your part. The UCMJ NOT Martial Law is the dictate of the military BASED on its constitutional limits of authority Those power are subject to the protection or defense of our nation and the conduct of military personnel. IT DOES NOT SUPERCEDE THE CONSTITUTION! Son?
You're my father?
I'm a 63 yr old war veteran, citizen and patriot.... son So is that a yes? A maybe? A no? An i don't know?
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Military laws and rights are different from civilians laws and rights. If you leak that kind of intel while you're in the military expect the hammer to be brought down upon your head. That is not the question here. What was "RIGHT" is. The constitution is the law of the land that ALL other laws fall or come under What is right is not the law. If the military went by what was right than our national security would be screwed. So therefore your argument about what's right and what's wrong is irrelevant. Might I advise some reading for you..... it's call the Constitution Might I advise some reading for you. It's called martial law. The constitution does not apply to someone in the military leaking that kind of intel which could fall into the hands of potential enemies. In which it did. How TOTALLY misinformed you are
We ARE NOT under Martial Law, and the military does NOT dictate the law of the land! I'm not misinformed. Civilians aren't under martial law. Military is. The military doesn't dictate the laws of our land. The military dictates the laws of the military. Nice try though.
Actually, it's military law, not martial law you are talking about...The two are different... The Constitution grants to Congress the power to raise and support armies and a navy, to suppress insurrections, and repel invasion among other military-related governmental roles. Thus, the main source of legal authority in this area is federal law. Congress's control over formation, organization and government of the national armies is plenary and exclusive. Military law consists of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and other statutory provisions for the government of persons in the Armed Forces to which may be added the unwritten common law of the usage and custom of military service as well as regulations and authorized by the President as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces (See 10 U.S.C. § 121). It is a part of our body of law as a whole, and is fully recognized by civil courts; it is in force in time of peace as well as in time of war. All persons serving in the Armed Forces of the United States are subject to military law at all times. http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/military Yeah, yeah, yeah. Blah, blah, blah. Lol.
Point is civilians rights and laws are different from military rights and laws. Which is why Bradley Manning is being charged with aiding the enemy regardless of anyone who thinks it's right or wrong. He will have the hammer dropped on his head. I know....
Do you talk to your mother this way too? I don't talk to my mother. I talk to myself.
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Youth is wasted on the young..... 
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Youth is wasted on the young.....
Totally
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Military laws and rights are different from civilians laws and rights. If you leak that kind of intel while you're in the military expect the hammer to be brought down upon your head. That is not the question here. What was "RIGHT" is. The constitution is the law of the land that ALL other laws fall or come under What is right is not the law. If the military went by what was right than our national security would be screwed. So therefore your argument about what's right and what's wrong is irrelevant. Might I advise some reading for you..... it's call the Constitution Might I advise some reading for you. It's called martial law. The constitution does not apply to someone in the military leaking that kind of intel which could fall into the hands of potential enemies. In which it did. How TOTALLY misinformed you are
We ARE NOT under Martial Law, and the military does NOT dictate the law of the land! the military has their own laws, and when you take the oath to serve, you better follow the rules... it is very simple |
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Youth is wasted on the young.....
*Salutes the 63 yr old war veteran/patriot who may or may not be my father* Also. I'm ancient at heart. I'm only young in years.
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Military laws and rights are different from civilians laws and rights. If you leak that kind of intel while you're in the military expect the hammer to be brought down upon your head. That is not the question here. What was "RIGHT" is. The constitution is the law of the land that ALL other laws fall or come under What is right is not the law. If the military went by what was right than our national security would be screwed. So therefore your argument about what's right and what's wrong is irrelevant. Might I advise some reading for you..... it's call the Constitution Might I advise some reading for you. It's called martial law. The constitution does not apply to someone in the military leaking that kind of intel which could fall into the hands of potential enemies. In which it did. How TOTALLY misinformed you are
We ARE NOT under Martial Law, and the military does NOT dictate the law of the land! I'm not misinformed. Civilians aren't under martial law. Military is. The military doesn't dictate the laws of our land. The military dictates the laws of the military. Nice try though.
Actually, it's military law, not martial law you are talking about...The two are different... The Constitution grants to Congress the power to raise and support armies and a navy, to suppress insurrections, and repel invasion among other military-related governmental roles. Thus, the main source of legal authority in this area is federal law. Congress's control over formation, organization and government of the national armies is plenary and exclusive. Military law consists of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and other statutory provisions for the government of persons in the Armed Forces to which may be added the unwritten common law of the usage and custom of military service as well as regulations and authorized by the President as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces (See 10 U.S.C. § 121). It is a part of our body of law as a whole, and is fully recognized by civil courts; it is in force in time of peace as well as in time of war. All persons serving in the Armed Forces of the United States are subject to military law at all times. http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/military Yeah, yeah, yeah. Blah, blah, blah. Lol.
Point is civilians rights and laws are different from military rights and laws. Which is why Bradley Manning is being charged with aiding the enemy regardless of anyone who thinks it's right or wrong. He will have the hammer dropped on his head. as he should... he knew what would happen for breaking the rules there... he was well informed when he recieved his secret clearence... it just amazes me as to you people think that you can pick and choose what rules/laws you feel you should follow.. fact is, when your in the military, you follow the rules, or get busted... they don't play around like some in here seem to think... |
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Military laws and rights are different from civilians laws and rights. If you leak that kind of intel while you're in the military expect the hammer to be brought down upon your head. That is not the question here. What was "RIGHT" is. The constitution is the law of the land that ALL other laws fall or come under What is right is not the law. If the military went by what was right than our national security would be screwed. So therefore your argument about what's right and what's wrong is irrelevant. Might I advise some reading for you..... it's call the Constitution Might I advise some reading for you. It's called martial law. The constitution does not apply to someone in the military leaking that kind of intel which could fall into the hands of potential enemies. In which it did. How TOTALLY misinformed you are
We ARE NOT under Martial Law, and the military does NOT dictate the law of the land! the military has their own laws, and when you take the oath to serve, you better follow the rules... it is very simple Again, the UCMJ does not supercede the constitution. Conduct of service personnel is regulated to military discretion and subject to laws UNDER the constitution. Even a 5 star general is subject under the constitution as a citizen whether in the military or not, subject to the limited authorities of both military and civilian leadership. But show me one instance where the UCMJ authority trumps the constitutional rights of the incividual and you will have cause for great concern..... for ALL will then be considered under Martial Law.... which can only be imposed by the President in times of war or dire public distress.... WHICH AS OF YET HAS NOT BEEN DECLARED! |
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A legal duty to report war crimes Manning is charged with crimes for sending hundreds of thousands of classified files, documents and videos, including the "Collateral Murder" video, the "Iraq War Logs," the "Afghan War Logs" and State Department cables to Wikileaks. Many of the things he transmitted contain evidence of war crimes. The "Collateral Murder" video depicts a US Apache attack helicopter killing 12 civilians and wounding two children on the ground in Baghdad in 2007. The helicopter then fired on and killed the people trying to rescue the wounded. Finally, a US tank drove over one of the bodies, cutting the man in half. These acts constitute three separate war crimes. Manning fulfilled his legal duty to report war crimes. He complied with his legal duty to obey lawful orders but also his legal duty to disobey unlawful orders. ...........................(more) The complete piece is at: http://truth-out.org/news/item/16731-bradley-mannings-legal-duty-to-expose-war-crimes Military code of justice....... He is innocent, we are guilty. no, those facts are misrepresented a bit... the military always investigates these types of so called "war crimes" does what needs to be done internally. when documents like these get out, it compromises their investigation. Bradley had a clearance, secret, i believe, and they do not hand those out easily. he knew not to do it, it doesn't matter why... they only way he might not get life is the liberals save him, but i think even the libs know how bad he screwed up. a little one sided, as usual... you don't know that any "war crimes" were ever even committed... i watched the real video of the helo shooting the 12, and the part wikileaks left out was one of them shoved a RPG launcher in the white van before the shooting. and the tape clearly shows the followed their orders, as they have to check in with the commander at the base before they fire. he ok'ed it... thats why these videos are surpressed to the public, because of hotheads like you that have it in for bush, anything about his presidency... 7 years after his legacy, you have yet to whine about the currant admin killing kids with drones and lying even worse than whatever you think bush did... you can stop the hate, bush is gone and not coming back.. try google, doesn't matter what you see, your hate for bush will always stand in the way of you being objective in any way... you people are also forgetting that this kid signed a contract with the goverment to keep their secrets, good or bad, and the fool broke the contract... thats the bottom line here, not what you "percieve" to be war crimes... Right you are...People like Julian Assange capitalize on hatred, weakness, and ignorance....Manning was played and now he will pay...Excusing Manning would be giving military personnel carte blanche to spy...That is NOT GONNA HAPPEN...If Manning and Assange really wanted to help they would have placed the focus on the activities of oppressive regimes.... As much as I respect you both, and defend your rights to your own opinions, the UCMJ is not written in those words. It was an oath to defend the constitution that he took which supercedes those statements. Any order you feel is unjust or unlawful you are not compelled to follow. Use the chain of command? In this case it was the actions of his superiors that was in question. Who was he going to report it to? That would be like informing the boss he is robbing the company blind and stealing the workers pensions to support his own lifestyle...how far do you think that investigation would go? He had an obligation to inform the public of atrocities, that would have remain hidden under a veil of secrecy otherwise, to his employers....the American People. He used Assange because there was no other outlet that would have informed the general public, his employers, of the atrocities of a corrupt administration, his managers of our trust. We are well aware of this admins desire and ability to bury truth, punish whistleblowers, and hide EVERYTHING under a false veil of secrecy. They are only administrators of our trust.....NOT our, or his, employers! what? he took an oath for the secret clearence he had!!!! breaking that sworn oath, even a little, justifies them trying you as a traitor! he had no such obligation to tell the public squat, he could go to prison just for telling his family where he was at... wherever you get your info at, you should read it twice to make sure you understand it... |
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Military laws and rights are different from civilians laws and rights. If you leak that kind of intel while you're in the military expect the hammer to be brought down upon your head. That is not the question here. What was "RIGHT" is. The constitution is the law of the land that ALL other laws fall or come under What is right is not the law. If the military went by what was right than our national security would be screwed. So therefore your argument about what's right and what's wrong is irrelevant. Might I advise some reading for you..... it's call the Constitution Might I advise some reading for you. It's called martial law. The constitution does not apply to someone in the military leaking that kind of intel which could fall into the hands of potential enemies. In which it did. How TOTALLY misinformed you are
We ARE NOT under Martial Law, and the military does NOT dictate the law of the land! the military has their own laws, and when you take the oath to serve, you better follow the rules... it is very simple Again, the UCMJ does not supercede the constitution. Conduct of service personnel is regulated to military discretion and subject to laws UNDER the constitution. Even a 5 star general is subject under the constitution as a citizen whether in the military or not, subject to the limited authorities of both military and civilian leadership. But show me one instance where the UCMJ authority trumps the constitutional rights of the incividual and you will have cause for great concern..... for ALL will then be considered under Martial Law.... which can only be imposed by the President in times of war or dire public distress.... WHICH AS OF YET HAS NOT BEEN DECLARED! you seem to forget that he had a SECRET CLEARENCE... has nothing to do with the consitution or UCMJ... he broke his agreement with the government... why is that so hard for you to get? |
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