I don't think that the topic is stupid. It's true that a lot of women do those things and that they can put stress on a relationship. It's not about bashing women. It's just pointing out that doing those things can be a bad idea if you really want your relationship to work.

Well said. The wife not to lose oneself.

yeaahh

I think that the point that the article is making is that women need to develop better communication skills and acting like a demanding entitled princess isn't the best way to get respect from a man.

It's true that both parties in a relationship can be guilty of doing some of those things and it even says that in the article. The article is aimed at women though because it's the sort of thing that you get in women's magazines, even if that isn't specifically a women's magazine. I don't know any men in the real world that read books or magazines that have relationship advice in them. It's just not a guy thing. That's not sexist. It's a statement of fact.

From the OP, you got that the women doing these things was acting like a demanding, entitled princess? How so? And what would you call the men who do those things?

One of the six was even complaining that the woman was trying to discuss problems with the man. You claim she needs to develop better communication skills, so what should she have done instead?

The problem described by the author is not with a wife discussing an alleged problem with her husband. Instead, the problem is with the wife's reaction to her husband's response.

For example, the husband could express disagreement with the wife about something, and then the husband may end the discussion because both opinions (his and his wife's) have been made known. Then, instead of moving on to something else, the wife might keep talking about their disagreement with the hope of badgering her husband to change his mind. At that point, no discussion is taking place. Instead, the wife is trying to wear down her husband with her talking.

some men change from courtship to marriage. They were like prince charming before You say I do. Later the man shows his true colors.
So, sometimes it is not about tring to change a Man, the Man was an imposter before any real marriage took place.

Ah, it's about the husband wanting to end the conversation, rather than discussing the issues? Didn't get that from your OP.

Women do those things in OP, however, I do not say they are all mistakes women make.

This is a bit scary.


Many divorces happen because:

Infidelity has been around just as long as the institution of marriage itself, and I doubt anyone is surprised that it continues to be a top reason for divorce. The face of cheating is ugly - instead of inspiring sadness and compassion, most of us get riled up and angry when we hear stories of wayward spouses and home wreckers.

It makes us angry because cheating is fundamentally preventable. It’s a choice! You don’t just, against your will, fall into bed with someone other than your spouse. It comes down to selecting between right and wrong, and those who cheat choose wrong.

But falling out of love? That’s entirely different. It’s not necessarily preventable, like cheating. Most of us would absolutely not choose to fall out of love with our partner. In fact, most of us would do anything to prevent that from happening. Yet, happen it does, sometimes against a colossal effort to stop it.


http://www.themortonreport.com

The article talks about how women need to develop better communication skills with men and a woman wrote it. That's what I got from it.

I'm not sure who the "she" is that you are refering to but I think that what the article is criticising is constant negativity and not just talking about problems per say, which is something that you, of all people I think, might agree with.

The article says that what a lot of women do is to go and talk to their friends about stuff that their partners do and that friends will tend to see those things as being worse than she will herself. They will say that she shouldn't put up with it and then you get into the demanding entitled princess thing. I just think that a lot of women are uncompromising and yeah, they expect men to understand them and their needs but again, as the article points out, men often just don't understand what the real problem is.

I just think that it's saying that instead of just blaming men all the time, try to look at things from their point of view and instead of getting into a situation where you are a nagging, demanding, entitled princess that expects men to put up with that, learn better ways to communicate with them. Respect is a two way street after all.

If it makes you happy, I'll say that if a man acted like that he would be a chauvinist or a bully. I don't think that everything in the article really applies equally to men though, or would be "typical" male chauvinistic behaviour.

Thank you this was my point. The writer really didn't bring any thing new to the table the points were "leftovers" from many conversations before hand. Its mean't to inflame and draw attention to the author.

"She" would be any woman you feel who does these things.

As for communication, it's a two way street. If a couple does not communicate well, both need to work on it.

Nowhere did I blame men all the time. Nor am I a nagging, demanding entitled princess who expects men to put up with that.

We'll just have to agree to disagree, as I believe much of what was said in the article applies to men as well.

On the contrary, the author is saying that, when an issue has already been discussed with the husband, the wife will keep talking, because she doesn't accept what the husband said about the issue. The husband has already stated his opinion about the issue, but what he stated doesn't please the wife, and so, she keeps talking. At that point, the discussion has ended, and all the wife is doing is trying to get her way. It is like a filibuster but at a family level.

I read the article. Again, as I said before, communication is a two way street. If the couple has trouble communicating, both need to work on it.

Or the author is merely trying to tell wives what kinds of behaviors cause discord in marriage.

I don't agree that such behaviors will lead to divorce.

That's not really agreeing to disagree is it? You aren't saying that it all applies to men as well and I said that some of it could.

I never said anything about you personally. I just said that I think that a lot of women do that stuff. Nowhere did I say that you personally blame men all the time. I just meant that I think that the article is saying something like that.

If a couple cannot communicate well, it may very well lead to divorce if the problem isn't fixed.

Damn, you'll even argue about that? You're always looking for an argument.