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| Topic: Why Say No To Amnesty? | |
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When an Illegal is arrested and being processed for deportation they are locked up.
Of age illegal kids are are incarcerated also. Illegal minor kids are placed in a detention facility for minors. Anchor brats, who are still minors, are placed in detention facilities while waiting for their parents deportation process. When the processing is done, the minors join their parents and sent to whatever country they are from. Anchor brats who are legal age are not arrested unless they have broken laws such as; transporting, housing, financing, or aiding/abetting. They are processed as Citizens and either set free, jailed, probated fined, warned, etc. |
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btw Im not for a complete amnesty I am , however, for not penalizing the children of the adults who chose to break the law and include them all companies and employers knowingly hiring undocumented should be fined the going wage for that position (not the weak wage they could scam the desperate illegal to accept),,,this would deter them from hiring illegals the difference between what they paid and what they SHOULD have paid should be used to deport the adult back home WITH a stipend of whatever is left over from their hard earned money children of adults who trespass should have the option of legal adoption by family or sponsor in the states.... 
those of the age of consent are getting punished,,,those who are not should not be,,,, there is a difference, for instance, between a child of 10 whose parents make them drink liquor and smoke,, and a child of 17 who CHOSE to do it IM sure the 10 year old would not be PUNISHED for what was forced by their parents,,,there is a significant difference,,, The sins of the father may not harm you over night, but if a child is raised to think breaking the law for personal gain is acceptable, what lesson are they being taught? |
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btw Im not for a complete amnesty I am , however, for not penalizing the children of the adults who chose to break the law and include them all companies and employers knowingly hiring undocumented should be fined the going wage for that position (not the weak wage they could scam the desperate illegal to accept),,,this would deter them from hiring illegals the difference between what they paid and what they SHOULD have paid should be used to deport the adult back home WITH a stipend of whatever is left over from their hard earned money children of adults who trespass should have the option of legal adoption by family or sponsor in the states....
those of the age of consent are getting punished,,,those who are not should not be,,,, there is a difference, for instance, between a child of 10 whose parents make them drink liquor and smoke,, and a child of 17 who CHOSE to do it IM sure the 10 year old would not be PUNISHED for what was forced by their parents,,,there is a significant difference,,, The sins of the father may not harm you over night, but if a child is raised to think breaking the law for personal gain is acceptable, what lesson are they being taught? I dont think that is the lesson of the lawbreaker gets deported,,, |
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btw Im not for a complete amnesty I am , however, for not penalizing the children of the adults who chose to break the law and include them all companies and employers knowingly hiring undocumented should be fined the going wage for that position (not the weak wage they could scam the desperate illegal to accept),,,this would deter them from hiring illegals the difference between what they paid and what they SHOULD have paid should be used to deport the adult back home WITH a stipend of whatever is left over from their hard earned money children of adults who trespass should have the option of legal adoption by family or sponsor in the states....
those of the age of consent are getting punished,,,those who are not should not be,,,, there is a difference, for instance, between a child of 10 whose parents make them drink liquor and smoke,, and a child of 17 who CHOSE to do it IM sure the 10 year old would not be PUNISHED for what was forced by their parents,,,there is a significant difference,,, The sins of the father may not harm you over night, but if a child is raised to think breaking the law for personal gain is acceptable, what lesson are they being taught? I dont think that is the lesson of the lawbreaker gets deported,,, Putting sugar on a turd doesn't make it edible The law has been broken, it declares any guilty to be deported or tried and jailed if more serious crimes have been committed. IT IS THE LAW! and there is a process to change it... that does not include a dictatorial decree! |
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btw Im not for a complete amnesty I am , however, for not penalizing the children of the adults who chose to break the law and include them all companies and employers knowingly hiring undocumented should be fined the going wage for that position (not the weak wage they could scam the desperate illegal to accept),,,this would deter them from hiring illegals the difference between what they paid and what they SHOULD have paid should be used to deport the adult back home WITH a stipend of whatever is left over from their hard earned money children of adults who trespass should have the option of legal adoption by family or sponsor in the states....
those of the age of consent are getting punished,,,those who are not should not be,,,, there is a difference, for instance, between a child of 10 whose parents make them drink liquor and smoke,, and a child of 17 who CHOSE to do it IM sure the 10 year old would not be PUNISHED for what was forced by their parents,,,there is a significant difference,,, The sins of the father may not harm you over night, but if a child is raised to think breaking the law for personal gain is acceptable, what lesson are they being taught? I dont think that is the lesson of the lawbreaker gets deported,,, Putting sugar on a turd doesn't make it edible The law has been broken, it declares any guilty to be deported or tried and jailed if more serious crimes have been committed. IT IS THE LAW! and there is a process to change it... that does not include a dictatorial decree! but children brougt against their own will are not GUILTY of breaking a law, they arent capable of consenting or not consenting to the action we are speaking on alternatives to deportation, which is the more costly option when it comes to such children especially if someone is already HERE who will take the child into their own home and take full responsibility for them,,, |
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btw Im not for a complete amnesty I am , however, for not penalizing the children of the adults who chose to break the law and include them all companies and employers knowingly hiring undocumented should be fined the going wage for that position (not the weak wage they could scam the desperate illegal to accept),,,this would deter them from hiring illegals the difference between what they paid and what they SHOULD have paid should be used to deport the adult back home WITH a stipend of whatever is left over from their hard earned money children of adults who trespass should have the option of legal adoption by family or sponsor in the states....
those of the age of consent are getting punished,,,those who are not should not be,,,, there is a difference, for instance, between a child of 10 whose parents make them drink liquor and smoke,, and a child of 17 who CHOSE to do it IM sure the 10 year old would not be PUNISHED for what was forced by their parents,,,there is a significant difference,,, The sins of the father may not harm you over night, but if a child is raised to think breaking the law for personal gain is acceptable, what lesson are they being taught? I dont think that is the lesson of the lawbreaker gets deported,,, Putting sugar on a turd doesn't make it edible The law has been broken, it declares any guilty to be deported or tried and jailed if more serious crimes have been committed. IT IS THE LAW! and there is a process to change it... that does not include a dictatorial decree! but children brougt against their own will are not GUILTY of breaking a law, they arent capable of consenting or not consenting to the action we are speaking on alternatives to deportation, which is the more costly option when it comes to such children especially if someone is already HERE who will take the child into their own home and take full responsibility for them,,, They are their parents children and as such must suffer the penalties as well as the rewards for any criminal acts caused by that parents disregard. A "minor" getaway driver may not shoot a guard in a bank robbery, but he will be tried as an adult and sentenced just as the one who pulls the trigger. Illegals can expect no special privilege under the law..... and it is the law! |
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btw Im not for a complete amnesty I am , however, for not penalizing the children of the adults who chose to break the law and include them all companies and employers knowingly hiring undocumented should be fined the going wage for that position (not the weak wage they could scam the desperate illegal to accept),,,this would deter them from hiring illegals the difference between what they paid and what they SHOULD have paid should be used to deport the adult back home WITH a stipend of whatever is left over from their hard earned money children of adults who trespass should have the option of legal adoption by family or sponsor in the states....
those of the age of consent are getting punished,,,those who are not should not be,,,, there is a difference, for instance, between a child of 10 whose parents make them drink liquor and smoke,, and a child of 17 who CHOSE to do it IM sure the 10 year old would not be PUNISHED for what was forced by their parents,,,there is a significant difference,,, The sins of the father may not harm you over night, but if a child is raised to think breaking the law for personal gain is acceptable, what lesson are they being taught? I dont think that is the lesson of the lawbreaker gets deported,,, Putting sugar on a turd doesn't make it edible The law has been broken, it declares any guilty to be deported or tried and jailed if more serious crimes have been committed. IT IS THE LAW! and there is a process to change it... that does not include a dictatorial decree! but children brougt against their own will are not GUILTY of breaking a law, they arent capable of consenting or not consenting to the action we are speaking on alternatives to deportation, which is the more costly option when it comes to such children especially if someone is already HERE who will take the child into their own home and take full responsibility for them,,, They are their parents children and as such must suffer the penalties as well as the rewards for any criminal acts caused by that parents disregard. A "minor" getaway driver may not shoot a guard in a bank robbery, but he will be tried as an adult and sentenced just as the one who pulls the trigger. Illegals can expect no special privilege under the law..... and it is the law! |
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btw Im not for a complete amnesty I am , however, for not penalizing the children of the adults who chose to break the law and include them all companies and employers knowingly hiring undocumented should be fined the going wage for that position (not the weak wage they could scam the desperate illegal to accept),,,this would deter them from hiring illegals the difference between what they paid and what they SHOULD have paid should be used to deport the adult back home WITH a stipend of whatever is left over from their hard earned money children of adults who trespass should have the option of legal adoption by family or sponsor in the states....
those of the age of consent are getting punished,,,those who are not should not be,,,, there is a difference, for instance, between a child of 10 whose parents make them drink liquor and smoke,, and a child of 17 who CHOSE to do it IM sure the 10 year old would not be PUNISHED for what was forced by their parents,,,there is a significant difference,,, The sins of the father may not harm you over night, but if a child is raised to think breaking the law for personal gain is acceptable, what lesson are they being taught? I dont think that is the lesson of the lawbreaker gets deported,,, Putting sugar on a turd doesn't make it edible The law has been broken, it declares any guilty to be deported or tried and jailed if more serious crimes have been committed. IT IS THE LAW! and there is a process to change it... that does not include a dictatorial decree! but children brougt against their own will are not GUILTY of breaking a law, they arent capable of consenting or not consenting to the action we are speaking on alternatives to deportation, which is the more costly option when it comes to such children especially if someone is already HERE who will take the child into their own home and take full responsibility for them,,, They are their parents children and as such must suffer the penalties as well as the rewards for any criminal acts caused by that parents disregard. A "minor" getaway driver may not shoot a guard in a bank robbery, but he will be tried as an adult and sentenced just as the one who pulls the trigger. Illegals can expect no special privilege under the law..... and it is the law! |
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a 'minor' who is driving is probably not in the age bracket I am referring to and unless under duress or unaware of the intentions of the passengers,,,,would be making a choice to participate or not
this is more like PARENTS driving a car to a bank robbery with the child present,,,than the CHILD driving the car the child would not in any way be held responsible for their parents choice and they would (if they were us citizen) have the option for another family member to take custody of them should those parents go to jail I feel each CHILD should have such an option available when their parents choose to break laws,,, |
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Edited by
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a 'minor' who is driving is probably not in the age bracket I am referring to and unless under duress or unaware of the intentions of the passengers,,,,would be making a choice to participate or not this is more like PARENTS driving a car to a bank robbery with the child present,,,than the CHILD driving the car the child would not in any way be held responsible for their parents choice and they would (if they were us citizen) have the option for another family member to take custody of them should those parents go to jail I feel each CHILD should have such an option available when their parents choose to break laws,,, If a child isn't old enough to be "guilty" of the crime then you want to rip them from their parents and force them into another situation they have no control over? 
Your thinking is flawed because you are trying to re-write laws to fit your own agenda.....but you dems are good at that! Repulsicons are not better....I agree! |
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Edited by
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a 'minor' who is driving is probably not in the age bracket I am referring to and unless under duress or unaware of the intentions of the passengers,,,,would be making a choice to participate or not this is more like PARENTS driving a car to a bank robbery with the child present,,,than the CHILD driving the car the child would not in any way be held responsible for their parents choice and they would (if they were us citizen) have the option for another family member to take custody of them should those parents go to jail I feel each CHILD should have such an option available when their parents choose to break laws,,, If a child isn't old enough to be "guilty" of the crime then you want to rip them from their parents and force them into another situation they have no control over?
Your thinking is flawed because you are trying to re-write laws to fit your own agenda.....but you dems are good at that! wow not sure how everyone elses families work, but in mine, (and I suspect in some immigrants families) we are not only close to our parents in childhood we have close cousins, aunts, uncles,,etc,,,,, and in a situation where our parents have to START over somewhere, we dont consider it being 'ripped away' from them to remain with those other close and loving relatives,,, we have OFTEN, in my culture and occasionally in my family, opted for our kids to live with the relatives who are in the best environments for THEIR BEST INTEREST,,,,, until we are able to do what we need to to provide stability ourself we do what we need to do, and its not always about keeping them with us if we dont have what we need to do what is best for them and some other loving relative does,,,, |
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a 'minor' who is driving is probably not in the age bracket I am referring to and unless under duress or unaware of the intentions of the passengers,,,,would be making a choice to participate or not this is more like PARENTS driving a car to a bank robbery with the child present,,,than the CHILD driving the car the child would not in any way be held responsible for their parents choice and they would (if they were us citizen) have the option for another family member to take custody of them should those parents go to jail I feel each CHILD should have such an option available when their parents choose to break laws,,, If a child isn't old enough to be "guilty" of the crime then you want to rip them from their parents and force them into another situation they have no control over?
Your thinking is flawed because you are trying to re-write laws to fit your own agenda.....but you dems are good at that! wow not sure how everyone elses families work, but in mine, (and I suspect in some immigrants families) we are not only close to our parents in childhood we have close cousins, aunts, uncles,,etc,,,,, and in a situation where our parents have to START over somewhere, we dont consider it being 'ripped away' from them to remain with those other close and loving relatives,,, we have OFTEN, in my culture and occasionally in my family, opted for our kids to live with the relatives who are in the best environments for THEIR BEST INTEREST,,,,, until we are able to do what we need to to provide stability ourself we do what we need to do, and its not always about keeping them with us if we dont have what we need to do what is best for them and some other loving relative does,,,, I suppose a little cheating on your taxes is ok too then? Like I asked before.....what are we teaching the children? The law is the law until it changes. You, I or illegals can't change that fact without due process! |
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a 'minor' who is driving is probably not in the age bracket I am referring to and unless under duress or unaware of the intentions of the passengers,,,,would be making a choice to participate or not this is more like PARENTS driving a car to a bank robbery with the child present,,,than the CHILD driving the car the child would not in any way be held responsible for their parents choice and they would (if they were us citizen) have the option for another family member to take custody of them should those parents go to jail I feel each CHILD should have such an option available when their parents choose to break laws,,, If a child isn't old enough to be "guilty" of the crime then you want to rip them from their parents and force them into another situation they have no control over?
Your thinking is flawed because you are trying to re-write laws to fit your own agenda.....but you dems are good at that! wow not sure how everyone elses families work, but in mine, (and I suspect in some immigrants families) we are not only close to our parents in childhood we have close cousins, aunts, uncles,,etc,,,,, and in a situation where our parents have to START over somewhere, we dont consider it being 'ripped away' from them to remain with those other close and loving relatives,,, we have OFTEN, in my culture and occasionally in my family, opted for our kids to live with the relatives who are in the best environments for THEIR BEST INTEREST,,,,, until we are able to do what we need to to provide stability ourself we do what we need to do, and its not always about keeping them with us if we dont have what we need to do what is best for them and some other loving relative does,,,, I suppose a little cheating on your taxes is ok too then? Like I asked before.....what are we teaching the children? The law is the law until it changes. You, I or illegals can't change that fact without due process! no its not ok and children dont pay taxes so its not really relevant adults who cheat on taxes should be held PERSONALLY responsible for their choice to cheat,,,,we dont usually lock up their kids for it though, usually another relative takes them in if we get locked up for breaking those laws... we teach children that society cares about them, and that as adults or once at an age of consent, They have the consequence of jail for breaking the laws Im fine with law being law, but children arent held accountable for their parents choices to break a law,,, |
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a 'minor' who is driving is probably not in the age bracket I am referring to and unless under duress or unaware of the intentions of the passengers,,,,would be making a choice to participate or not this is more like PARENTS driving a car to a bank robbery with the child present,,,than the CHILD driving the car the child would not in any way be held responsible for their parents choice and they would (if they were us citizen) have the option for another family member to take custody of them should those parents go to jail I feel each CHILD should have such an option available when their parents choose to break laws,,, If a child isn't old enough to be "guilty" of the crime then you want to rip them from their parents and force them into another situation they have no control over?
Your thinking is flawed because you are trying to re-write laws to fit your own agenda.....but you dems are good at that! wow not sure how everyone elses families work, but in mine, (and I suspect in some immigrants families) we are not only close to our parents in childhood we have close cousins, aunts, uncles,,etc,,,,, and in a situation where our parents have to START over somewhere, we dont consider it being 'ripped away' from them to remain with those other close and loving relatives,,, we have OFTEN, in my culture and occasionally in my family, opted for our kids to live with the relatives who are in the best environments for THEIR BEST INTEREST,,,,, until we are able to do what we need to to provide stability ourself we do what we need to do, and its not always about keeping them with us if we dont have what we need to do what is best for them and some other loving relative does,,,, I suppose a little cheating on your taxes is ok too then? Like I asked before.....what are we teaching the children? The law is the law until it changes. You, I or illegals can't change that fact without due process! no its not ok and children dont pay taxes so its not really relevant adults who cheat on taxes should be held PERSONALLY responsible for their choice to cheat,,,,we dont usually lock up their kids for it though, usually another relative takes them in if we get locked up for breaking those laws... we teach children that society cares about them, and that as adults or once at an age of consent, They have the consequence of jail for breaking the laws Im fine with law being law, but children arent held accountable for their parents choices to break a law,,, I love children, support childrens charities, I have also dealt with a lot of illegals in my time in the southwest regions. These kids are taught evasion and lying from the time they can talk, know they are illegal and the consequences if they are caught. There are no innocent children here. They are being taught deception and lying at the earliest opportunity. I perfer them not to be rewarded with my tax dollars for their further education in deception! |
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a 'minor' who is driving is probably not in the age bracket I am referring to and unless under duress or unaware of the intentions of the passengers,,,,would be making a choice to participate or not this is more like PARENTS driving a car to a bank robbery with the child present,,,than the CHILD driving the car the child would not in any way be held responsible for their parents choice and they would (if they were us citizen) have the option for another family member to take custody of them should those parents go to jail I feel each CHILD should have such an option available when their parents choose to break laws,,, If a child isn't old enough to be "guilty" of the crime then you want to rip them from their parents and force them into another situation they have no control over?
Your thinking is flawed because you are trying to re-write laws to fit your own agenda.....but you dems are good at that! wow not sure how everyone elses families work, but in mine, (and I suspect in some immigrants families) we are not only close to our parents in childhood we have close cousins, aunts, uncles,,etc,,,,, and in a situation where our parents have to START over somewhere, we dont consider it being 'ripped away' from them to remain with those other close and loving relatives,,, we have OFTEN, in my culture and occasionally in my family, opted for our kids to live with the relatives who are in the best environments for THEIR BEST INTEREST,,,,, until we are able to do what we need to to provide stability ourself we do what we need to do, and its not always about keeping them with us if we dont have what we need to do what is best for them and some other loving relative does,,,, I suppose a little cheating on your taxes is ok too then? Like I asked before.....what are we teaching the children? The law is the law until it changes. You, I or illegals can't change that fact without due process! no its not ok and children dont pay taxes so its not really relevant adults who cheat on taxes should be held PERSONALLY responsible for their choice to cheat,,,,we dont usually lock up their kids for it though, usually another relative takes them in if we get locked up for breaking those laws... we teach children that society cares about them, and that as adults or once at an age of consent, They have the consequence of jail for breaking the laws Im fine with law being law, but children arent held accountable for their parents choices to break a law,,, I love children, support childrens charities, I have also dealt with a lot of illegals in my time in the southwest regions. These kids are taught evasion and lying from the time they can talk, know they are illegal and the consequences if they are caught. There are no innocent children here. They are being taught deception and lying at the earliest opportunity. I perfer them not to be rewarded with my tax dollars for their further education in deception! chldren are always innocent of their parents choices, and I dont know what control they have over any of it even IF they learn that they are here illegally, they still CAME INTO THAT STATUS through no fault of their own a sponsor could be held responsible to adopt or otherwise apply for their legal status,,,,,it should be their option before we start ASSUMING The character of the child or what they will or wont do down the line let them BECOME LEGAL, if there is an adult willing to follow the laws to do so,,,its not a big deal,,, and its not your tax dollars IF ANOTHER ADULT takes full responsibility for them,,,,its your tax dollars if the feds deport them though |
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a 'minor' who is driving is probably not in the age bracket I am referring to and unless under duress or unaware of the intentions of the passengers,,,,would be making a choice to participate or not this is more like PARENTS driving a car to a bank robbery with the child present,,,than the CHILD driving the car the child would not in any way be held responsible for their parents choice and they would (if they were us citizen) have the option for another family member to take custody of them should those parents go to jail I feel each CHILD should have such an option available when their parents choose to break laws,,, If a child isn't old enough to be "guilty" of the crime then you want to rip them from their parents and force them into another situation they have no control over?
Your thinking is flawed because you are trying to re-write laws to fit your own agenda.....but you dems are good at that! wow not sure how everyone elses families work, but in mine, (and I suspect in some immigrants families) we are not only close to our parents in childhood we have close cousins, aunts, uncles,,etc,,,,, and in a situation where our parents have to START over somewhere, we dont consider it being 'ripped away' from them to remain with those other close and loving relatives,,, we have OFTEN, in my culture and occasionally in my family, opted for our kids to live with the relatives who are in the best environments for THEIR BEST INTEREST,,,,, until we are able to do what we need to to provide stability ourself we do what we need to do, and its not always about keeping them with us if we dont have what we need to do what is best for them and some other loving relative does,,,, I suppose a little cheating on your taxes is ok too then? Like I asked before.....what are we teaching the children? The law is the law until it changes. You, I or illegals can't change that fact without due process! no its not ok and children dont pay taxes so its not really relevant adults who cheat on taxes should be held PERSONALLY responsible for their choice to cheat,,,,we dont usually lock up their kids for it though, usually another relative takes them in if we get locked up for breaking those laws... we teach children that society cares about them, and that as adults or once at an age of consent, They have the consequence of jail for breaking the laws Im fine with law being law, but children arent held accountable for their parents choices to break a law,,, I love children, support childrens charities, I have also dealt with a lot of illegals in my time in the southwest regions. These kids are taught evasion and lying from the time they can talk, know they are illegal and the consequences if they are caught. There are no innocent children here. They are being taught deception and lying at the earliest opportunity. I perfer them not to be rewarded with my tax dollars for their further education in deception! chldren are always innocent of their parents choices, and I dont know what control they have over any of it even IF they learn that they are here illegally, they still CAME INTO THAT STATUS through no fault of their own a sponsor could be held responsible to adopt or otherwise apply for their legal status,,,,,it should be their option before we start ASSUMING The character of the child or what they will or wont do down the line let them BECOME LEGAL, if there is an adult willing to follow the laws to do so,,,its not a big deal,,, and its not your tax dollars IF ANOTHER ADULT takes full responsibility for them,,,,its your tax dollars if the feds deport them though That's the BIGGEST bunch of BS I've heard in a while! Anyone taking the responsibility for another persons children ALWAYS petitions the state for support.....MY TAX DOLLARS! |
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a 'minor' who is driving is probably not in the age bracket I am referring to and unless under duress or unaware of the intentions of the passengers,,,,would be making a choice to participate or not this is more like PARENTS driving a car to a bank robbery with the child present,,,than the CHILD driving the car the child would not in any way be held responsible for their parents choice and they would (if they were us citizen) have the option for another family member to take custody of them should those parents go to jail I feel each CHILD should have such an option available when their parents choose to break laws,,, If a child isn't old enough to be "guilty" of the crime then you want to rip them from their parents and force them into another situation they have no control over?
Your thinking is flawed because you are trying to re-write laws to fit your own agenda.....but you dems are good at that! wow not sure how everyone elses families work, but in mine, (and I suspect in some immigrants families) we are not only close to our parents in childhood we have close cousins, aunts, uncles,,etc,,,,, and in a situation where our parents have to START over somewhere, we dont consider it being 'ripped away' from them to remain with those other close and loving relatives,,, we have OFTEN, in my culture and occasionally in my family, opted for our kids to live with the relatives who are in the best environments for THEIR BEST INTEREST,,,,, until we are able to do what we need to to provide stability ourself we do what we need to do, and its not always about keeping them with us if we dont have what we need to do what is best for them and some other loving relative does,,,, I suppose a little cheating on your taxes is ok too then? Like I asked before.....what are we teaching the children? The law is the law until it changes. You, I or illegals can't change that fact without due process! no its not ok and children dont pay taxes so its not really relevant adults who cheat on taxes should be held PERSONALLY responsible for their choice to cheat,,,,we dont usually lock up their kids for it though, usually another relative takes them in if we get locked up for breaking those laws... we teach children that society cares about them, and that as adults or once at an age of consent, They have the consequence of jail for breaking the laws Im fine with law being law, but children arent held accountable for their parents choices to break a law,,, I love children, support childrens charities, I have also dealt with a lot of illegals in my time in the southwest regions. These kids are taught evasion and lying from the time they can talk, know they are illegal and the consequences if they are caught. There are no innocent children here. They are being taught deception and lying at the earliest opportunity. I perfer them not to be rewarded with my tax dollars for their further education in deception! chldren are always innocent of their parents choices, and I dont know what control they have over any of it even IF they learn that they are here illegally, they still CAME INTO THAT STATUS through no fault of their own a sponsor could be held responsible to adopt or otherwise apply for their legal status,,,,,it should be their option before we start ASSUMING The character of the child or what they will or wont do down the line let them BECOME LEGAL, if there is an adult willing to follow the laws to do so,,,its not a big deal,,, and its not your tax dollars IF ANOTHER ADULT takes full responsibility for them,,,,its your tax dollars if the feds deport them though That's the BIGGEST bunch of BS I've heard in a while! Anyone taking the responsibility for another persons children ALWAYS petitions the state for support.....MY TAX DOLLARS! seriously,,,,,, any adult who is available to take FULL RESPONSIBILITY,,, that means they would not be able to get state support,,,, |
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a 'minor' who is driving is probably not in the age bracket I am referring to and unless under duress or unaware of the intentions of the passengers,,,,would be making a choice to participate or not this is more like PARENTS driving a car to a bank robbery with the child present,,,than the CHILD driving the car the child would not in any way be held responsible for their parents choice and they would (if they were us citizen) have the option for another family member to take custody of them should those parents go to jail I feel each CHILD should have such an option available when their parents choose to break laws,,, If a child isn't old enough to be "guilty" of the crime then you want to rip them from their parents and force them into another situation they have no control over?
Your thinking is flawed because you are trying to re-write laws to fit your own agenda.....but you dems are good at that! wow not sure how everyone elses families work, but in mine, (and I suspect in some immigrants families) we are not only close to our parents in childhood we have close cousins, aunts, uncles,,etc,,,,, and in a situation where our parents have to START over somewhere, we dont consider it being 'ripped away' from them to remain with those other close and loving relatives,,, we have OFTEN, in my culture and occasionally in my family, opted for our kids to live with the relatives who are in the best environments for THEIR BEST INTEREST,,,,, until we are able to do what we need to to provide stability ourself we do what we need to do, and its not always about keeping them with us if we dont have what we need to do what is best for them and some other loving relative does,,,, I suppose a little cheating on your taxes is ok too then? Like I asked before.....what are we teaching the children? The law is the law until it changes. You, I or illegals can't change that fact without due process! no its not ok and children dont pay taxes so its not really relevant adults who cheat on taxes should be held PERSONALLY responsible for their choice to cheat,,,,we dont usually lock up their kids for it though, usually another relative takes them in if we get locked up for breaking those laws... we teach children that society cares about them, and that as adults or once at an age of consent, They have the consequence of jail for breaking the laws Im fine with law being law, but children arent held accountable for their parents choices to break a law,,, I love children, support childrens charities, I have also dealt with a lot of illegals in my time in the southwest regions. These kids are taught evasion and lying from the time they can talk, know they are illegal and the consequences if they are caught. There are no innocent children here. They are being taught deception and lying at the earliest opportunity. I perfer them not to be rewarded with my tax dollars for their further education in deception! chldren are always innocent of their parents choices, and I dont know what control they have over any of it even IF they learn that they are here illegally, they still CAME INTO THAT STATUS through no fault of their own a sponsor could be held responsible to adopt or otherwise apply for their legal status,,,,,it should be their option before we start ASSUMING The character of the child or what they will or wont do down the line let them BECOME LEGAL, if there is an adult willing to follow the laws to do so,,,its not a big deal,,, and its not your tax dollars IF ANOTHER ADULT takes full responsibility for them,,,,its your tax dollars if the feds deport them though That's the BIGGEST bunch of BS I've heard in a while! Anyone taking the responsibility for another persons children ALWAYS petitions the state for support.....MY TAX DOLLARS! seriously,,,,,, any adult who is available to take FULL RESPONSIBILITY,,, that means they would not be able to get state support,,,, And you seriously think that is the case? 
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a 'minor' who is driving is probably not in the age bracket I am referring to and unless under duress or unaware of the intentions of the passengers,,,,would be making a choice to participate or not this is more like PARENTS driving a car to a bank robbery with the child present,,,than the CHILD driving the car the child would not in any way be held responsible for their parents choice and they would (if they were us citizen) have the option for another family member to take custody of them should those parents go to jail I feel each CHILD should have such an option available when their parents choose to break laws,,, If a child isn't old enough to be "guilty" of the crime then you want to rip them from their parents and force them into another situation they have no control over?
Your thinking is flawed because you are trying to re-write laws to fit your own agenda.....but you dems are good at that! wow not sure how everyone elses families work, but in mine, (and I suspect in some immigrants families) we are not only close to our parents in childhood we have close cousins, aunts, uncles,,etc,,,,, and in a situation where our parents have to START over somewhere, we dont consider it being 'ripped away' from them to remain with those other close and loving relatives,,, we have OFTEN, in my culture and occasionally in my family, opted for our kids to live with the relatives who are in the best environments for THEIR BEST INTEREST,,,,, until we are able to do what we need to to provide stability ourself we do what we need to do, and its not always about keeping them with us if we dont have what we need to do what is best for them and some other loving relative does,,,, I suppose a little cheating on your taxes is ok too then? Like I asked before.....what are we teaching the children? The law is the law until it changes. You, I or illegals can't change that fact without due process! no its not ok and children dont pay taxes so its not really relevant adults who cheat on taxes should be held PERSONALLY responsible for their choice to cheat,,,,we dont usually lock up their kids for it though, usually another relative takes them in if we get locked up for breaking those laws... we teach children that society cares about them, and that as adults or once at an age of consent, They have the consequence of jail for breaking the laws Im fine with law being law, but children arent held accountable for their parents choices to break a law,,, I love children, support childrens charities, I have also dealt with a lot of illegals in my time in the southwest regions. These kids are taught evasion and lying from the time they can talk, know they are illegal and the consequences if they are caught. There are no innocent children here. They are being taught deception and lying at the earliest opportunity. I perfer them not to be rewarded with my tax dollars for their further education in deception! chldren are always innocent of their parents choices, and I dont know what control they have over any of it even IF they learn that they are here illegally, they still CAME INTO THAT STATUS through no fault of their own a sponsor could be held responsible to adopt or otherwise apply for their legal status,,,,,it should be their option before we start ASSUMING The character of the child or what they will or wont do down the line let them BECOME LEGAL, if there is an adult willing to follow the laws to do so,,,its not a big deal,,, and its not your tax dollars IF ANOTHER ADULT takes full responsibility for them,,,,its your tax dollars if the feds deport them though That's the BIGGEST bunch of BS I've heard in a while! Anyone taking the responsibility for another persons children ALWAYS petitions the state for support.....MY TAX DOLLARS! seriously,,,,,, any adult who is available to take FULL RESPONSIBILITY,,, that means they would not be able to get state support,,,, And you seriously think that is the case?
I know that is often the case when adults assume responsibility for children not biologically their own happens quite often in this country,,, |
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