For those considering the government may no longer be an entity whose authority can be trusted on marriage,,,,,

it is possible to marry without state involvement, but it means WITHOUT state involvement, meaning state perks or privileges,

to marry as a covenant marriage based in Christian authority, there is a reference called 'The Black Regiment' which can be used to find pastors who will perform covenant marriages (recorded in the family bible and not by the state)....

here is a site:

http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/blackregiment.php

How thoughtful of you to post this!

lol,, I just find it interesting, been researching lately and wanted to share in case others are feeling as I Am,,,,

Are you feeling rebellious?

no, not at all

a license is 'The permission by competent authority to do an act which without such permission, would be illegal.”


I no longer consider the state a competent authority on christian marriage,, so I am interestedin finding out the way to have Gods authority without having to go to the incompetent authority of the government,,


think of it this way,, If I had a husband, who should be loyal to his wife alone, who decided he thought the marriage should allow him to have other women too,,,,, I would no longer want a part of that relationship either, I would leave the two of them to each other,,,


I feel the same in this situation, if the government is saying that marriage should allow any consenting adults to have each other, I no longer want a part of that government institution, I will leave the various 'consenting adults' and government to each other,,,

christians really need Gods authority, but they dont have to feel compelled to have the states,,,,,,,this is info for those who feel as I do or just dont want the state involvement, need the states approval, or desire state perks and privileges,,,

In Texas, all they have to do is present themselves as man and wife and they are considered married.

really? thats interesting too,,,,

You still have to get your divorce through the state.

thats understandable, same for a covenant marriage, although bibles can contain marriage record, there is no divorce record to record,,,

Isn't it frightening how nonchalantly we mention divorce besides marriage, as an end to it? Whatever happened to til death do you part?

yes, it is sad as well that divorce is so rampant
but I think that is the natural conclusion to the changing sexual culture in general


we are no longer in a society where the community supports and encourages fidelity and monogamy, we 'mind our own business' intstead,,,,its an anything goes world, which isnt compatible with marriage at all,,,,

I am twice married, one repeatedly unfaithful husband and one who abandoned us,,,,,its a struggle morally to know the right thing when it comes to allowing your very health to remain in danger from an unfaithful partner or allowing yourself and your children to be without a husband and father or to remarry


I do truly wish my first marriage had worked out,, Ive not been a 'proud' divorcee but thats the changing values of people towards their sexual partners and spouses,,,,and families in general

msharmony, I could be mistaken, but I get the impression that you are wanting the definition of marriage to be customized to conform to your personal desire.

If I recall correctly, in another thread, you stated that the Bible doesn't give a description of just how a marriage ceremony is supposed to be performed, and yet you now saying that a civil government doesn't have the authority to regulate marriage. Still, in another thread, you talk about marriage being defined by majority of one's society, not by the minority.

You may not realize it, but you are insisting that people be able to do what same-gender couples in the USA were doing before same-gender marriage became legal anywhere in the USA.

Yes, same-gender couples in the USA were having wedding ceremonies without them having any kind of state-issued marriage license.

Uh, those "marriage records" were added by the publishers of English-version bibles.

you are mistaken

I want to respect the biblical definition of marriage where each man have one wife, or each wife have one husband bibilical definition, not personal one,,,


I am not saying government doesnt have authority to license marriage, obviously they do

I am saying that I NO LONGER respect that authority based on its revised definition of marriage,,,

the definition of the STATE LICENSED Marriage is decided by the culture and the society

I dont believe Gods authority, or recognition of marriage must include the state or its license,,,

I am not truly insisting anything, people have always been able to have covenant marriages, I only just recently found out about it so I am sharing the information

that works, since I am fron an english founded country/culture,,,

Where does the Bible say that its OK for you to no longer respect government authority when it comes to marriage?

I am a respecter of God, I cant respect any law that is against Gods law...

I dont feel the need to find some direct quote from the bible to back up my feelings about it,,,

on a sidenote though, marriage is not about a law specifically, it is about a relationship,, we are free to include the states sanctioning of that relationship or not,,

I choose not,,,

Marriage is the lading cause for divorce. You can't get divorced if your not married.

A bit off topic.
When folks wash their hands of the gov. and their law, they are togive Caeser what is his and no longer accept more from him.
That makes men free from the bondage of slavery.

Well, in Exodus chapter 21, God says that the government is supposed to execute people who commit murder. So, are you opposed to states outlawing capital punishment?

Also, I do not see where God's law allows you to get married without a license.