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| Topic: Same sex marriage vs interracial marriage | |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Fri 05/17/13 10:39 PM
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Because Young Spiffy D and Sarah Baker can have kids together whereas Adam and Steve cannot. So, you're against marriages where the couples are not procreating? Do you believe a couple must try to have children if they're going to marry? Im against people cutting off their limb,,,does this mean that those who are BORN Without limbs are the same as those who make the choice to cut it off? apples and oranges there are plenty of instances where people dont PLAN to procreate, nor believe they can and yet,, they do anyway there is no guarantee that people will or will not have kids as long as they are heteroseuxlly involved,,, the point is to encourage the family foundation that starts with the heterosexual union,, it doesnt require that people will start a family just that they have a heterosexual union |
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To those who are against same sex marriage, do you feel that interracial marriage should not have been legalized either? If you feel differently about both, why? Interesting questions but I guess it doesn't not apply to me since I am for same sex marriage. Mainly for the fact that our world is evolving and we need evolve with it or move on. I'm sure if there was another way to get the same benefits as a married man and woman couple there would not be such a push for same sex marriage but unfortunately there isn't at least not right now. One of the biggest reason I am for same sex marriage is because of children. I have seen so many children given up for adoption or taken away from their biological parents due to abuse, or put into the system because their parents died and no one else int eh family wanted them. The older the children the hard it is for them to find a family who will love and care for them. Over the years I have worked with many same sex couples who have adopted children like this. I have had the privilege to see many of those children grow into young adults and they turn out to be just wonderful...I am so proud of them because their lives could have been completely different then what it is now because someone decided to reach out and love them no matter how difficult they were. They didn't care that the people who adopted them was of the same sex...all they cared about was someone was willing to give their time, take a chance and love a child who desperately wanted to be loved. |
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to those who are for same sex marriage, do you feel the consentual incest marriage should be legalized as well?
If you feel differently about both, why? |
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to those who are for same sex marriage, do you feel the consentual incest marriage should be legalized as well? If you feel differently about both, why? As long as we (the U.S.) continue to make marriage a legal matter, I feel consensual incest marriage between adults should be legalized...Having children should be advised against in exactly the same way advice is given to unrelated couples who face a greater than average risk of producing children with genetic defects or disorders...Counseling to this effect should be made available at the time of application...The option to reproduce should not be prohibited by law because consanguineous couples are capable of producing healthy children... |
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exactly the next agenda Im sure will take hold
people just have become convinced of the old cliche that 'love' is all you need,,, ,,,,,oh well |
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to those who are for same sex marriage, do you feel the consentual incest marriage should be legalized as well? If you feel differently about both, why? If that's what someone wants to do, I'm not going to tell them not to. It's not quite the same as heterosexual or homosexual marriages, though, as with those two, we're talking about two unrelated adults getting married. |
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to those who are for same sex marriage, do you feel the consentual incest marriage should be legalized as well? If you feel differently about both, why? If that's what someone wants to do, I'm not going to tell them not to. It's not quite the same as heterosexual or homosexual marriages, though, as with those two, we're talking about two unrelated adults getting married. true, similarly same sex marriage isnt the same as heterosexual marriage because we are talking about two people with the same bits and pieces being married,,,,, yet, those are differences that some apparntly think should matter and others do not,,, |
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to those who are for same sex marriage, do you feel the consentual incest marriage should be legalized as well? If you feel differently about both, why? If that's what someone wants to do, I'm not going to tell them not to. It's not quite the same as heterosexual or homosexual marriages, though, as with those two, we're talking about two unrelated adults getting married. true, similarly same sex marriage isnt the same as heterosexual marriage because we are talking about two people with the same bits and pieces being married,,,,, yet, those are differences that some apparntly think should matter and others do not,,, 
Yes, I get that you will keep bringing up things that just cannot compare. Nothing said will change that. |
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I get it too. some will never acknowledge the similarities,,,
until those behaviors begin to slowly be seen as no different than any other attraction and a 'right' it is a curious topic what sexual behaviors are acceptible and which arent and why the 'born' that way theory keeps being pounded into the cultural psyche it was much less acceptable in my moms time to be sleeping around or making multiple families,, but ya know as long as all the kids in those different families are being paid for by the absent parent,,,,,,,whose to judge? it was much less acceptible even in my time to be going around disrespecting elders, but ya know respect has to be 'earned' before it is given so why should elders get any special consideration ,,,whose to judge? we some day wont judge anything, believing it is the superior way, and we will be completely without a foundation or a moral base beyond dont harm the flesh (of others) or steal peoples stuff ,,but it is what it is,,, |
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To those who are against same sex marriage, do you feel that interracial marriage should not have been legalized either? If you feel differently about both, why? because others defined race and put people in those categories based upon things they have no control over, not on actions, or preferences, or tastes,,but on BIOLOGICAL HISTORY because the product of too many interracial unions , children, prove that they are no different than intraracial unions,,,,, all that matters is man and woman, they create life, and they are the foundation to be cherished and protected,,, How are they threatened because two men or two women can marry? Tell me how. They'll still have the same right to marry as they do now, they aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Letting others do the same doesn't mean they're not protected, they always have been and will be. how are you threatened if others are ok with having their home searched or their persons searched at an airport? immediate threat isnt the point,,,,cultural decline, cultural norms, cultural boundaries are,,,, Really? You're gonna try that argument, really? That's so entirely different it's not even funny! In that case I am threatened because I KNOW that if others keep accepting things like you describe above, they will come for me next, they always do I don't care how you wanna argue it, history proves it time and time again if you actually educated yourself. That's how I'm threatened, because once enough people consent to unlawful things it makes everyone else targets to be forced to give in to the same. Your choices in that case VERY MUCH do impact what happens to me because of the precedence it sets, it does not just effect you, it creates a snowball effect to where everyone else is effected as well. To try and compare that to allowing two people to privately marry one another is just ridiculous. It's not the same thing whatsoever. One has a ripple effect on everyone, the other just plainly does not. Last I checked your own marriages or rights to be together aren't gonna be taken away because we allow someone else the same. As for cultural norms and boundaries, quite frankly I don't care about that, just because we've done things one way for a certain period of time doesn't mean we can't be wrong or in need of change. Used to be that the cultural norm was to view blacks as inferior to whites, and the boundary placing the two races separate from each other. Should that not have changed? Tradition and what is actually good for people, don't always go together. When it comes to individual rights against that, the individual should win every time. EXACTLY THE SAME THOUGHT,, EXACTLY THE SAME LOGIC<, lets review 'That's so entirely different it's not even funny! In that case I am threatened because I KNOW that if others keep accepting things like you describe above, they will come for me next, they always do I don't care how you wanna argue it, history proves it time and time again if you actually educated yourself. That's how I'm threatened, because once enough people consent to unlawful things it makes everyone else targets to be forced to give in to the same. Your choices in that case VERY MUCH do impact what happens to me because of the precedence it sets, it does not just effect you, it creates a snowball effect to where everyone else is effected as well.' I am threatened because I KNOW that if others keep accepting this lifestyle they will come for my kids next and their kids, they always do, I dont care how you wanna argue it , history proves it time and time again if you actually educate YOURSELF. Thats how Im threatened, because once enough people consent to sinful things, it makes everyone else targes to be forced to give in to accepting those sinful things,. The reaction of society and government to our sexual choices VERY MUCH impact what happens to me because of the precedence it sets, it does not just effect you, it creates a SNOWBALL effect to where everyone else is effected as well starting with children, families and communities,,, and your kids and their kids can just say no to that lifestyle IF they want to assuming it is truly a choice and not an inherent emotion and if it is inherent emotion would you not want your kids or their kids to be able to live the life that makes them happy prohibition does not work just because its no permitted will not keep it from happening it just enhances the allure of doing something risque maybe if it is a choice make it not a big deal and maybe it wont be as alluring |
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Edited by
adj4u
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Mon 05/20/13 06:44 AM
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good grief come into the 21st century.normal cannot be defined.if 2 people of same sex fall in love,how is that wrong?love doesn't know colour or sexes.it just is.you sound like the old Victorian tempest mob from uk.no offence but at the end of the day live and let live,. we all have views,we all are entitled to live.look around how many hetro relationships are full of vitriol, beatings, murder, divorce, abuse.loads.dont sweep it under the carpet.we are all human and the basic human need is to be loved and wanted.i hate those who bring religion into arguments.religion has nothing to do with who you love.at the end of the day lets be real-jesus wore a long dress and hung around with only guys,.what does that say? 
So who defines the definitions of right and wrong? i keep hearing "it's not wrong", but what makes it right? because you say it's right? you don't agree with religion, so anyone that uses religion as a basis is automatically wrong? this love conquers all - even your morality? there's not a point when you ask "is this right?" if people cannot keep self control, then things like this happen... there are no rules of permission only rules of prohibition you don't need permission to do right even the bill of rights is a list of prohibitions :you shall not infringe: you mentioned religion """"""""so anyone that uses religion as a basis is automatically wrong?"""""""""" yes in the U.S. the first amendment prohibits laws based on religion |
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Because Young Spiffy D and Sarah Baker can have kids together whereas Adam and Steve cannot. that is a religious point adam and who makes it relate to the bible thus the bible being a religious book makes it a religious point |
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good grief come into the 21st century.normal cannot be defined.if 2 people of same sex fall in love,how is that wrong?love doesn't know colour or sexes.it just is.you sound like the old Victorian tempest mob from uk.no offence but at the end of the day live and let live,. we all have views,we all are entitled to live.look around how many hetro relationships are full of vitriol, beatings, murder, divorce, abuse.loads.dont sweep it under the carpet.we are all human and the basic human need is to be loved and wanted.i hate those who bring religion into arguments.religion has nothing to do with who you love.at the end of the day lets be real-jesus wore a long dress and hung around with only guys,.what does that say?
So who defines the definitions of right and wrong? i keep hearing "it's not wrong", but what makes it right? because you say it's right? you don't agree with religion, so anyone that uses religion as a basis is automatically wrong? this love conquers all - even your morality? there's not a point when you ask "is this right?" if people cannot keep self control, then things like this happen... there are no rules of permission only rules of prohibition you don't need permission to do right even the bill of rights is a list of prohibitions :you shall not infringe: you mentioned religion """"""""so anyone that uses religion as a basis is automatically wrong?"""""""""" yes in the U.S. the first amendment prohibits laws based on religion i'm not talking about laws, i'm talking about core beliefs, what their life is based on...when someone believes something strong enough, it automatically becomes true in their mind, no matter what. thats why it's hard to argue with fanatics, they are right no matter what. same as some of these pro gayers, they cannot see how morally wrong they are... |
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i'm not talking about laws, i'm talking about core beliefs, what their life is based on...when someone believes something strong enough, it automatically becomes true in their mind, no matter what. thats why it's hard to argue with fanatics, they are right no matter what. same as some of these pro gayers, they cannot see how morally wrong they are...
Is that why it's hard to discuss things with you? You're a fanatic against homosexuality. You seem completely obsessed with not wanting people to have anal sex. |
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i'm not talking about laws, i'm talking about core beliefs, what their life is based on...when someone believes something strong enough, it automatically becomes true in their mind, no matter what. thats why it's hard to argue with fanatics, they are right no matter what. same as some of these pro gayers, they cannot see how morally wrong they are...
Is that why it's hard to discuss things with you? You're a fanatic against homosexuality. You seem completely obsessed with not wanting people to have anal sex. Now i'm a fanatic? or did you mean fantastic? |
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i'm not talking about laws, i'm talking about core beliefs, what their life is based on...when someone believes something strong enough, it automatically becomes true in their mind, no matter what. thats why it's hard to argue with fanatics, they are right no matter what. same as some of these pro gayers, they cannot see how morally wrong they are...
Is that why it's hard to discuss things with you? You're a fanatic against homosexuality. You seem completely obsessed with not wanting people to have anal sex. Now i'm a fanatic? or did you mean fantastic? No, I definitely meant fanatic. |
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i'm not talking about laws, i'm talking about core beliefs, what their life is based on...when someone believes something strong enough, it automatically becomes true in their mind, no matter what. thats why it's hard to argue with fanatics, they are right no matter what. same as some of these pro gayers, they cannot see how morally wrong they are...
Is that why it's hard to discuss things with you? You're a fanatic against homosexuality. You seem completely obsessed with not wanting people to have anal sex. Now i'm a fanatic? or did you mean fantastic? No, I definitely meant fanatic. Is is kinda cute though... 
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i'm not talking about laws, i'm talking about core beliefs, what their life is based on...when someone believes something strong enough, it automatically becomes true in their mind, no matter what. thats why it's hard to argue with fanatics, they are right no matter what. same as some of these pro gayers, they cannot see how morally wrong they are...
Is that why it's hard to discuss things with you? You're a fanatic against homosexuality. You seem completely obsessed with not wanting people to have anal sex. Now i'm a fanatic? or did you mean fantastic? No, I definitely meant fanatic. So you think butt sex is a good thing? 
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i'm not talking about laws, i'm talking about core beliefs, what their life is based on...when someone believes something strong enough, it automatically becomes true in their mind, no matter what. thats why it's hard to argue with fanatics, they are right no matter what. same as some of these pro gayers, they cannot see how morally wrong they are...
Is that why it's hard to discuss things with you? You're a fanatic against homosexuality. You seem completely obsessed with not wanting people to have anal sex. Now i'm a fanatic? or did you mean fantastic? No, I definitely meant fanatic. Is is kinda cute though...
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i'm not talking about laws, i'm talking about core beliefs, what their life is based on...when someone believes something strong enough, it automatically becomes true in their mind, no matter what. thats why it's hard to argue with fanatics, they are right no matter what. same as some of these pro gayers, they cannot see how morally wrong they are...
Is that why it's hard to discuss things with you? You're a fanatic against homosexuality. You seem completely obsessed with not wanting people to have anal sex. Now i'm a fanatic? or did you mean fantastic? No, I definitely meant fanatic. So you think butt sex is a good thing?
If it's someone's preference, why would I care? I'm certainly not going to tell them to not have anal sex if that's what they want to do. |
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