I think some women mistake jerkness for confidence sometimes and I also think women understand how hard it is to make the first move so they give concessions for the first time "come on" flub up. Making most men's first approach possibly still a fail even if it works.

Nice men do fine with women if they are confident sexy nice men. Self confidence is the sexiest thing anyone can wear.

Door mat is not healthy in either gender.

I just won't date a woman that needs a jerk.

Is that kartagan starting with that hogwash again????

That is hilarious

Exasperated , emasculated, masturbated and that was all a could take so I emancipated and never looked
Back

Psssst, hey, all you fellow ladies, what say we ignore this thread, seeing as these bitter men aren't listening? By replying, you're just adding to the bait. It's clear that some of em are just choosing to believe what they want. So why bother wasting time trying to even explain? People who already have their minds made up. You know YOURSELF what type of guy you all want, so really, no need to trying to convince. I can see that their bitterness, will leave them cold and lonely, so we might aswell just leave these bitter one's to it. It tells me they don't want to sort out their personal issue's. They just want to blame women instead, because apparantely divorce therapy is bs ;). God knows how they will ever land another woman with this kind of negative attitude. I know most of you women know better than to rise to someone's bullcrap.

(((rawrr))) I love you woman!!

Bitter men? Um didn't you type this^ Seems the one who is bitter is you. Not only that but it appears you've dated real true jerks. Iv'e never done any of the above. You might wanna consider a spoonful of sugar. That bitterness has seeped down into your typing.

Love you too, Christina . Long time no see. How are ya? :)

:rollingeyes: You obviously don't know what joking around looks like. Me, I've only dated jerks? That's a new one. I'd rather turn lesbian, than date a jerk. You read too much into what's said.

I read into what you put out. Now if you're making stuff up, To try and be funny. Then you might want to add a J.K. at the end of your rants.

My photo is fully available on my profile. You do realize not everyone makes it their main one? If you think profile photos are the defining factor, you and I have wildly different ideas on what constitutes courage.

Besides, I don't have anything to prove like apparently you seem so desperate to do.



Yeah, because thinking with your head and common sense are always hogwash in your world right?

Wow. Well all this negativity going on in this thread, is driving me away like dog s***. If we can't laugh and joke, then I dread to think what this world is coming to. If you think having that kind of angry judgement about women, will actually attract one, good luck, but I have yet to see even just one, swooning to you, which hasn't happened yet. Wonder why. I am done with this subject, though, because I don't do negativity, so goodnight.

I think you're confusing me with other men in this thread? What angry judgements have I made? Aside from defending myself from personal attacks. Like hootie up there.

Four stages of "love" throught the average mans eyes;
First 3 month : exasperation

3month-one year; exasperation - emasculation

< one year exasperation- masterbation -emasculation

< three years masturbation


Stage 4 liberation/emancipation


Or Jail/asylum/fatalities

Personally I wasn't a bit bitter towards woman when this started, just responding on the topic posted
Certainly that was not the interaction I was looking for here.
Some wont be aloud to "play in anymore reindeer game's"

That's usually the reaction you get in this place. I've rarely seen anyone reply with any kind of understanding or compassion. Just jump right in and start bashing. It's a shame really, but then wasn't that the point of your original post :)

If I wanted to read some PUA book, I'd do that. However, I asked someone a question instead. No need for a book.

You can be honest and tactful at the same time. Some men don't like being that way, though and will just complain that women really don't like honesty. And they will generalize about all women because they don't want to hear what women really want.