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Copyright law sucks!...It used to be that an author's copyright expired 50 years after his death, but in the UK, they extended it to 70. This means that Orwell's (Blair's) stuff won't be in the public domain until 2020. I wonder what little corporate bloodsuckers are profiting from his life's work until 2020?...I kinda doubt that his family is. I heard a rumour that Greece was holding the copyright on Plato's Republic and using it (along with the Parthenon, Acropolis & the rest of Greece) as security against an IMF loan that they defaulted on. Now that greece is belly up, I'm expecting to find some bargains on ebay. I can't afford the whole country of course, but I figure if nobody else is interested, I should be able to get Mt. Olympus for a song (the shipping costs are ridiculous though) to use as a conversational paperweight in the office. Failing that, I might try for the copyright on Plato's work...His "Republic" would make a great coffee table book... To increase the value of it, I think I'll have Amazon destroy all the ebook versions.  I wouldn’t say copyright laws completely sucks. If it were not for copyright and patents, we would not have had many if not all the stuff we have today. Copyrights and patents do keep many from steeling your ideas. After all, why should someone profit from your idea that you worked so hard to see come true. |
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Copyright law sucks!...It used to be that an author's copyright expired 50 years after his death, but in the UK, they extended it to 70. This means that Orwell's (Blair's) stuff won't be in the public domain until 2020. I wonder what little corporate bloodsuckers are profiting from his life's work until 2020?...I kinda doubt that his family is. I heard a rumour that Greece was holding the copyright on Plato's Republic and using it (along with the Parthenon, Acropolis & the rest of Greece) as security against an IMF loan that they defaulted on. Now that greece is belly up, I'm expecting to find some bargains on ebay. I can't afford the whole country of course, but I figure if nobody else is interested, I should be able to get Mt. Olympus for a song (the shipping costs are ridiculous though) to use as a conversational paperweight in the office. Failing that, I might try for the copyright on Plato's work...His "Republic" would make a great coffee table book... To increase the value of it, I think I'll have Amazon destroy all the ebook versions. 
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Copyright law sucks!...It used to be that an author's copyright expired 50 years after his death, but in the UK, they extended it to 70. This means that Orwell's (Blair's) stuff won't be in the public domain until 2020. If everyone's ideas and inventions were pubic domain, who would risk their time, effort and money to create them? I certainly wouldn't impoverish myself over an effort I had no chance of recouping my losses from, while watching others trade on and benefit from it...such as selling the download to a book my company spent a small fortune purchasing the rights to. Just sayin'.  |
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Copyright law sucks!...It used to be that an author's copyright expired 50 years after his death, but in the UK, they extended it to 70. This means that Orwell's (Blair's) stuff won't be in the public domain until 2020. If everyone's ideas and inventions were pubic domain, who would risk their time, effort and money to create them? I certainly wouldn't impoverish myself over an effort I had no chance of recouping my losses from, while watching others trade on and benefit from it...such as selling the download to a book my company spent a small fortune purchasing the rights to. Just sayin'. |
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what do you want? It is way too Prophetic! Guess ATLAS SHRUGGED will be next,and any other dystopian Novel! copyright law or not, seems a little fascist... smells to high hell of democrats being involved in some way...  You ain't seen nothing yet,Mister! You have Big Brother aka Buzz Windrip sitting in the WH now!  |
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what do you want? It is way too Prophetic! Guess ATLAS SHRUGGED will be next,and any other dystopian Novel! copyright law or not, seems a little fascist... smells to high hell of democrats being involved in some way... You ain't seen nothing yet,Mister! You have Big Brother aka Buzz Windrip sitting in the WH now! |
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what do you want? It is way too Prophetic! Guess ATLAS SHRUGGED will be next,and any other dystopian Novel! copyright law or not, seems a little fascist... smells to high hell of democrats being involved in some way... You ain't seen nothing yet,Mister! You have Big Brother aka Buzz Windrip sitting in the WH now! |
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what do you want? It is way too Prophetic! Guess ATLAS SHRUGGED will be next,and any other dystopian Novel! copyright law or not, seems a little fascist... smells to high hell of democrats being involved in some way... yes... and who extended it till 2014? i'll wait for your answer... |
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Edited by
JustDukkyMkII
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Thu 04/11/13 06:13 PM
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I just bought the COPYRIGHT to the Ten Commandments! That's a relief!…I was afraid the bank was gonna get them and lend them back to us at interest!…At their compounding rate it'd be no time at all before we had more commandments than we could possibly read, let alone follow.  If it were not for copyright and patents, we would not have had many if not all the stuff we have today. Copyrights and patents do keep many from steeling your ideas. After all, why should someone profit from your idea that you worked so hard to see come true. IMO, copyright on books should move to the public domain upon the death of the author…But I'm not as upset by the copyright legislation as I am by the atrocity that patent law has become. Monsanto patented (or bought the patents on) huge swaths of human genetic code. You can count yourself lucky if they don't have royalty rights to some of your genes. If you thought the carbon tax was a bad idea, just wait…Pretty soon you'll have to send Monsanto royalties for yourself and your kids' patented DNA sequences, or lose the farm when they sue you for them.  If everyone's ideas and inventions were pubic domain, who would risk their time, effort and money to create them? I would. Just sayin'. 
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Edited by
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Thu 04/11/13 06:21 PM
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You can count yourself lucky if they don't have royalty rights to some of your genes. They can have the rights to my genes that they want...they still won't fit them. If everyone's ideas and inventions were pubic domain, who would risk their time, effort and money to create them? I would. Just sayin'. Not everyone is independently wealthy. 
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Edited by
JustDukkyMkII
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Thu 04/11/13 06:56 PM
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You can count yourself lucky if they don't have royalty rights to some of your genes. They can have the rights to my genes that they want...they still won't fit them. If everyone's ideas and inventions were pubic domain, who would risk their time, effort and money to create them? I would. Just sayin'. Not everyone is independently wealthy. That depends what you mean by wealthy. IMO bankers are the poorest and most useless parasites on earth, and while I may scrounge the streets for discarded cigarette butts to smoke, I count myself as one of the wealthiest people going...I have true friends. I work to serve my fellows; I don't work to serve myself. |
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what do you want? It is way too Prophetic! Guess ATLAS SHRUGGED will be next,and any other dystopian Novel! copyright law or not, seems a little fascist... smells to high hell of democrats being involved in some way... I prefer real books anyway. They deleted the books perhaps because they did not want to be sued and made to pay someone the money that they made. I didn't realize until recently that you could not download a purchased book to your computer or to a thumb drive to keep it safe. |
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Edited by
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Thu 04/11/13 07:30 PM
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I think some trademark and copyright laws do suck. I agree that a book should become public domain after the author dies. The only people who benefit are the publishers anyway. Patent laws are getting ridiculous.
The thing about a real creative person is they can always write something else, or paint a new picture or invent something new. The blood suckers who want to enforce copyright laws are the publishers and the greedy corporations who want to milk a product for all they can get and they usually try to screw the creator out of his piddly share of the profits. The lizard alien hybrids have no creative faculty. They are blood sucking and brain picking robots. |
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Edited by
1Cynderella
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Thu 04/11/13 07:37 PM
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You can count yourself lucky if they don't have royalty rights to some of your genes. They can have the rights to my genes that they want...they still won't fit them. If everyone's ideas and inventions were pubic domain, who would risk their time, effort and money to create them? I would. Just sayin'. Not everyone is independently wealthy. That depends what you mean by wealthy. IMO bankers are the poorest and most useless parasites on earth, and while I may scrounge the streets for discarded cigarette butts to smoke, I count myself as one of the wealthiest people going...I have true friends. I work to serve my fellows; I don't work to serve myself. I commend you for it, Dukky,  but do you think Bill Gates could have created Windows without a resource to his name? Innovation takes a time commitment and the funding that most can't come by without working our way to the financial state that opens the possibility. Brilliance alone does not an invention make.
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Edited by
Dan9998
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Thu 04/11/13 07:45 PM
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You can buy it in Canada. Amazon.ca
I can't wait to hear dum dums make comments about socialist Canada...  It's politically naive anyway than to tie censorship, control, etc to democrats, the Bush folks did stuff like that too... http://www.amazon.ca/1984-ebook/dp/B005PMWJBQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1365734371&sr=8-1&keywords=1984+kindle |
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You can count yourself lucky if they don't have royalty rights to some of your genes. They can have the rights to my genes that they want...they still won't fit them. If everyone's ideas and inventions were pubic domain, who would risk their time, effort and money to create them? I would. Just sayin'. Not everyone is independently wealthy. That depends what you mean by wealthy. IMO bankers are the poorest and most useless parasites on earth, and while I may scrounge the streets for discarded cigarette butts to smoke, I count myself as one of the wealthiest people going...I have true friends. I work to serve my fellows; I don't work to serve myself. I commend you for it, Dukky, but do you think Bill Gates could have created Windows without a resource to his name? Innovation takes a time commitment and the funding that most can't come by without working our way to the financial state that opens the possibility. Brilliance alone does not an invention make. It's kind of funny you used the example you did...I know a bit of the history around it.... While I kinda like Bill Gates for his business acumen and his intelligence, I can't say too much for his creativity, or his respect for the intellectual property of others.... When Windows first came out, it was simply a poorly constructed executive that ran on top of what was called MSDOS (another story I'll get to in a minute). It was an attempt to try not to lose too much market share to Apple's new "GUI" operating system (which was itself, a relatively uncreative ripoff of work being done at the Xerox PARC facility (the mouse, screen icons, etc. were all "stolen" from Xerox...So much for THAT intellectual property)). I remember the first Windows well...It was a bloody abortion!...Windows didn't even START looking worthwhile until version 3. MSDOS (originally licenced to IBM as PCDOS for their new IBM PC in 1981) was NOT created by Bill and did NOT use any of his resources. He had already made a hugely profitable (many millions) deal with IBM on the licensing BEFORE he acquired the OS. After making the deal, he simply walked down the street and BOUGHT the intellectual property from its creator (who had invested almost all of his private resources in creating it) for $50k. Needless to say, I have some issues with stuff like "intellectual property"...especially when greedy speculators can rip off the hardworking creators. |
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You can count yourself lucky if they don't have royalty rights to some of your genes. They can have the rights to my genes that they want...they still won't fit them. If everyone's ideas and inventions were pubic domain, who would risk their time, effort and money to create them? I would. Just sayin'. Not everyone is independently wealthy. That depends what you mean by wealthy. IMO bankers are the poorest and most useless parasites on earth, and while I may scrounge the streets for discarded cigarette butts to smoke, I count myself as one of the wealthiest people going...I have true friends. I work to serve my fellows; I don't work to serve myself. I commend you for it, Dukky, but do you think Bill Gates could have created Windows without a resource to his name? Innovation takes a time commitment and the funding that most can't come by without working our way to the financial state that opens the possibility. Brilliance alone does not an invention make. It's kind of funny you used the example you did...I know a bit of the history around it.... While I kinda like Bill Gates for his business acumen and his intelligence, I can't say too much for his creativity, or his respect for the intellectual property of others.... When Windows first came out, it was simply a poorly constructed executive that ran on top of what was called MSDOS (another story I'll get to in a minute). It was an attempt to try not to lose too much market share to Apple's new "GUI" operating system (which was itself, a relatively uncreative ripoff of work being done at the Xerox PARC facility (the mouse, screen icons, etc. were all "stolen" from Xerox...So much for THAT intellectual property)). I remember the first Windows well...It was a bloody abortion!...Windows didn't even START looking worthwhile until version 3. MSDOS (originally licenced to IBM as PCDOS for their new IBM PC in 1981) was NOT created by Bill and did NOT use any of his resources. He had already made a hugely profitable (many millions) deal with IBM on the licensing BEFORE he acquired the OS. After making the deal, he simply walked down the street and BOUGHT the intellectual property from its creator (who had invested almost all of his private resources in creating it) for $50k. Needless to say, I have some issues with stuff like "intellectual property"...especially when greedy speculators can rip off the hardworking creators. Let's look at this in a different light altogether. I know in the building business, I can't build next year what I don't profit from this year. Period. I participate heavily in various housing programs. When I do this, I have to pay my people to build non-profit, because they still have to eat. So, doing it cost me the profits from several jobs I do turn a profit on. If all I did were charity jobs, how would I finance them and how would I feed myself? I have to make a profit, just to HAVE something to give. |
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I think some trademark and copyright laws do suck. I agree that a book should become public domain after the author dies. The only people who benefit are the publishers anyway. Patent laws are getting ridiculous. The thing about a real creative person is they can always write something else, or paint a new picture or invent something new. The blood suckers who want to enforce copyright laws are the publishers and the greedy corporations who want to milk a product for all they can get and they usually try to screw the creator out of his piddly share of the profits. The lizard alien hybrids have no creative faculty. They are blood sucking and brain picking robots. |
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I think some trademark and copyright laws do suck. I agree that a book should become public domain after the author dies. The only people who benefit are the publishers anyway. Patent laws are getting ridiculous. The thing about a real creative person is they can always write something else, or paint a new picture or invent something new. The blood suckers who want to enforce copyright laws are the publishers and the greedy corporations who want to milk a product for all they can get and they usually try to screw the creator out of his piddly share of the profits. The lizard alien hybrids have no creative faculty. They are blood sucking and brain picking robots. |
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I think anyone who owns a Kindle should send a strongly worded message to them that removing anything without permission is stealing ... and tell the rest of the world about it too.
Bad publicity hurts. If possible, you should get your money back on the reader and buy another brand. |
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