why are people assuming a president has to be in DC to work?

never heard of technology? teleconferencing, skype, laptops, remote access,,,etc,,,etc,,,etc,,,,

well, since they cant travel safely without taxpayer security and transportation, I guess thats not gonna happen

but if they would take it with or without the taxpayers money, I say they should have at it,,,

lol, Ive never thought he was God

and no, there is nothing he can do about it if he wants his family to be safe,,,,

unless he is supposed to decide between giving up his family's security or their time together,,,,

it's best done in the office at his place of business. I am sure he does do some work and PR photos and such when on a vacay but I think we need our prez to be in D.C.

normally I don't think his vacations would be an issue but the economy is such a mess and gun control initiative is failing, immigration is a joke....it just doesn't look good to leave the nest when the chicks aren't guarded....poor timing maybe?

the economy is improving, it will never be perfect, at what point will it be not a 'mess' enough for him to be able to leave his 'place of business'?

I dont know, my mom was a working woman and she took many vacations where she also worked with us kids and the whole family,, and that was BEFORE Technological advances

I just dont think physical location has ANYTHING to do with capacity to work once one is in a leadership position

the president doesnt actually 'guard' anyone at the white house,,that he cannot guard from anyplace with a phone and satellite connection via which he can communicate, listen, advise, and direct

so his presence in that specific building doesnt affect the country in my opinion

and people , in my opinion, who believe its the physical location that matters, are not quite understanding the advances of technology

communication is communication, whether via a teleconference thousands of miles apart or sitting at the same table,,,in the same building,,,,

your mother wasn't the president

I understand technology better than most and communication is my profession, there is a tangible quanlitative difference when communication is in person. He's being paid to be in the Oval office and if he'd like to be elsewhere there are other jobs out there....

the economy is not improving substanitally in anyway that I notice, N Korea is threatening war and HIS own gun control legislation is failing


you just don't get to go out and play before your room is clean


and you can't clean it from a beach house several hundred miles away

I think anyone who leaves their workplace for a holiday at a time like this should be questioned...it's just not a good time for that now..and those of us who do question his timing have every right to do so. he works FOR us

yes, and working people get TIME OFF< regardless how bad the economy might be

and working people get to SPEND TIME WITH THEIR FAMILIES and not be 24/7 prisoners to their employers

so if a working person, even a president, wants to spend his time off with his family at his place of business , his home, or anyplace else in the world that doesnt infringe upon his availability on WORK DAYS AND HOURS

then I say , go for it,,,,

really, we could extend the analogy to anything else and it would seem just as farfetched

there are starving children in america every year, but that doesnt stop first families from having lavish meals made by personal chefs

is it always a 'bad time' to have an exquisite meal if you are a first family because other families happen to be starving?

there are people losing their homes to medical bills in america every year, but that doesnt stop first families from owning and spending time at second and third homes or 'ranches'

is it always a 'bad time' to have a second or third home if there are families in america without even one home?

yes, he works for us, but he is not a slave
if he is earning the money that would afford him the ACCESS to this type of time with his family BEFORE The position, he should not be restrcited from that access after wards,, nor should his family


does anyone believe the ceo of apple, or microsoft when faced with issues within the company, makes sure to sit at their official DESK 24/7 in order to resolve those issues, ? or do they travel internationally or interstate and continue to mend bridges,strenthen relationships, etc

someone of a leadership position who has to be in ONE SPECIFIC location to achieve his work, is not very efficent at their job,,,

our country is 50 states, not just one, so why should the leader of the country only have a 'place of business' in one?

you sure do,, but as a free citizen, she has every right to travel that any other millionaire does

and as a free citizen, she has every right to be in the media that a kim kardashian, or blue collar comedian, or bill oreilly does,, as long as people are interested in watching her,,,,

she doesnt have to downgrade her life because her husband was elected president,,,she only has to carry herself through it with integrity,, which has LITTLE to do with how often one vacations or if they appear in the media,,,,

and as the elected presidents FAMILY , they have every right to receive protection,,,,

And it's funny how the Cons are, today, where it's all-of-a-sudden a crime to take a vacation while still in office. Nevermind that his "vacation" is in name, only, as he has to take a lot of his work with him.

Where the hell was all your rage when Bush flew home to Texas or off to his dad's place in Kennebunkport, every week or two? By the end of his first term, he had spent about a year of it in those vacation places.

And the reason I say there's "nothing he can do" is because the security operations are not his job. Sure, he could just fire his entire security detail and give all the gun-toting Teabaggers a free shot, but there's nothing good that can come from that. So, spare me your lib-hating rationale. You've checked out of reason a few pages ago.

President Bush (at his own expense) has an office built in Texas where he could run the country from, paid for additions to his ranch to house his staff and secret service detail and foreign officials instead of putting them up in lavish hotels.

Where would Obama take them? To his house in Chicago that Rezko and Saddam's chief arms dealer helped to fund next door to the radical domestic terrorist and close Obama friend William Ayers?

considering how often he lived there , he needed to renovate it,, big deal

security is still part of the deal to keep the first family safe EVERY first family

some things they will pay from their own pocket, even some lodgings (obamas paid for white house renovations from their own funds too),, but that is all irrelevant to a family being able to spend time together off the work clock, in whatever fashion they can afford to,,,

Where was I during bush's first term? lets see that was like 12 years ago? I was in 11th grade and I didnt care about politics. Oh wait you are not talking to me because I am in fact a libertarian... move along.

Well idk if things changed but last time I checked you didnt pay taxes, so if I wasn't paying for it I wouldnt care either, but as for me I don't want my tax dollars paying for vacations when we are over spending by over 1 trillion a year.

If you're talking about the Swiss Postal Service,Yes they are,but USPS is going deeper into Deficit every year!

Look long and hard at this page.

Look long and hard at the sheer number of quotes on this page.

Seriously....scroll back and look.

I am embarrassed being from the same species.

PLEASE QUOTE THIS!

Apparently you are worth nothing more than invisible internet bitching and not actually trying to effect real world change.

how quickly you forget... you libs blamed bush for everything

how many world changes are you expecting on a dating site forum?

and you do?

actually what is needed for change,the Liberals and "Conservatives" scream out loud when they are told,and run as if the Horned One were after them!

here ya go!

If you don't like others opinions and they bother you so much quit coming back here. Apparently you are worth nothing more than invisible internet bitching and not actually trying to effect real world change.

Umm its called debating.... In a forum with lots of people talking posts are not always clear on what other posts they are referring to hence the quote option. Yes it is an internet forum not a city council meeting. This is a place to discuss and debate. If you don't like it there is no need to be here.