Lord abide with us!!!

cheers to 'well regulated'





freedom of speech has consequences for misuse, if it was absolute, it couldnt be misused,, it is REGULATED,, as are most other rights
including bearing arms,,,,

Freedom of speech is regulated by law, not by legislation. WE THE PEOPLE are the regulators of our free speech and can't lawfully deny it to any of us, no matter how much we don't like it.

how do you have law without legislation? what are you on about,,,,,


there are regulations about free speech, if it impedes on others safety, like yelling fire in a theater

or if it does harm of reputation like slander or libel

or if it misleads in a way that infringes upon fair trial,, like perjury


,, I could go on,,,,,

I thought you'd never ask. The simple truth is that legislation isn't law. The best legislation can hope to do is to be consistent with law, and from what I've seen, not much of it is.

Take the banking/income tax legislation for instance. It is legalized fraud and therefore unlawful. Has the legislative "authority" perpetrated a fraud on the people?...Yes....Have the people done anything about it?...No; therefore, the crooks can have their way and impose debt slavery on the people because the people have given their tacit consent. Did you consent to debt slavery?..No?...Well you'd better tell the government, because they think you did.

what is debt slavery?

how am I enslaved,,,,by federal debt
and how are my own debts not a choice,,,?

I still wonder what part some People don't understand in,"Shall Not Be Infringed On"?

Unless they feel it is proper for Government to Diddle with the RIGHTS of the People!

So,again,"What Part of "Shall Not Be Infringed On",You all do not understand?


BROWN: Gun control advocates would leave women defenseless
Second Amendment protects the fairer sex


For many, it is of little consequence that the right to bear arms is legally protected by the Second Amendment. They want to see more practical arguments than just what a piece of paper says. While the Second Amendment certainly carries real, stand-alone significance, there is also a real need for practical arguments in its favor. Although there are many practical arguments supporting the right to keep and bear arms, there is one point that is not often discussed.

Gun control that limits the availability of firearms to law-abiding citizens disproportionately disadvantages women. If you don’t believe it, consider some of the facts and arguments surrounding the issue, some of which the left has used itself.

Though there are women who can fight off male attackers, they are not the average. According to a study conducted by Doctor Callie Marie Rennison for the Bureau of Justice Statistics, of the 691,710 nonfatal violent victimizations committed by current or former significant others in 2001, about 85 percent were against women. Her study also showed that while 440 men were killed by their intimate partners in the year 2000, over 1,200 women were killed by their intimate partners in the same year. Moreover, the CDC reports that in 2009 around 1.3 million women were raped in the United States.

These are sobering data, but they present an indisputable fact: Women are in much greater danger from physical attack than men. According to a 1995 study conducted by Florida State University Criminology Professor Gary Kleck, guns are used in self-defense as many as 2.5 million times per year. Self-proclaimed gun-control advocate Marvin Wolfgang said in “A Tribute to a View I Have Opposed,” “I do not like their conclusions that having a gun can be useful, but I cannot fault their methodology. They have tried earnestly to meet all objections in advance and have done exceedingly well.” In other words, these numbers are sound.

Even though women daily use firearms to defend themselves and their families, it is easy for people like Rep. Nancy Pelosi and Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. with personal protection details to argue that the average citizen doesn’t need a semi-automatic AR-15 rifle with 30-round detachable magazines. In a speech in Minneapolis in January, President Obama said regarding assault rifles, “Weapons of war have no place on our streets.”

Mr. Biden suggests that women buy and use shotguns. He said in an interview, “You don’t need an AR-15. It’s harder to aim. It’s harder to use. And, in fact, you don’t need 30 rounds to protect yourself. Buy a shotgun.” Yet, as demonstrated by a popular Youtube video, shotguns are not wieldy for anybody, and AR-15s are actually much easier to use and aim than many other firearms.

According to the FBI, out of 12,664 murders committed in the United States in 2011, only 323 were committed with rifles of any kind, while 728 people were murdered using hands, fists, feet, etcetera; 1,694 were killed with edged weapons; and 1,659 were murdered using “other weapons” such as baseball bats, hammers or clubs. Focusing on one of the least used items for murder in the United States is not a solution. It’s a political statement.

Right now federal and state legislatures are primarily discussing legislation that would limit the transfer of “assault weapons” to law-abiding citizens. These laws would no more limit the sale of firearms to criminals than current laws do, but they would allow law enforcement officers to enter the houses of law-abiding citizens to inspect their rifles, throwing out the Fourth Amendment with the second. It is already illegal for many classes of criminals to own, buy or sell firearms. It is obviously illegal for anyone to use a firearm in committing a crime. Regardless, lawmakers want to take away citizen’s rights to purchase rifles such as the AR-15, one of the best home-defense weapons on the market due to accuracy, low recoil, ease of use and custom accessories.

It is ironic that the same lawmakers who recently passed the Violence Against Women Act are so willing to take away women’s ability to defend themselves. If you care not only about women’s rights, but the rights of all Americans, then contact your representatives and let them know you are opposed to gun-control legislation that further limits the self-defense options available to law-abiding citizens. Maybe they will remember that passing these laws will not only hurt men who hunt and target shoot, but it will take away women’s ability to defend themselves and their families as well as they possibly can.

Paul Brown, a veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom who served in the Marine Corps for five years, writes about Second Amendment rights at why2a.blogspot.com.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/10/brown-gun-control-advocates-would-leave-women-defe/

Did you run up wall Street's debts? Did you speculate on trillions of dollars of toxic derivatives?...No?...Then why are you being stuck with the bill for the bankers' malfeasance & fraud?...Do you have the choice not to pay thru taxes?...If not then what could that be if not debt slavery?

Your own debts are yours of course, and you should pay them, but please tell me why you are being held liable to pay for the crooks' theft of the public wealth?

The way your monetary system works, your government's treasury issues bonds based on what you (and everyone else) are able to pay in the course of your life. (That's the "full faith and credit of the American people") No problem there...Lincoln did it and his greenbacks were a great idea because it was the people borrowig from (and paying back) themselves at no interest. Trouble was, there's no money in it for the central bankers who wanted to run your country, so they plotted a takeover and rigged the vote to bring in the Fed. Now, your government BORROWS from the bank AT INTEREST instead of the American people (at no interest). That way, the Bank gets to claim to be the creditor of the bankrupt corporation (operating in receivership), where if things operated as they should, the PEOPLE would be the creditors running the country with the power of the purse to keep the public servants honest. As it is, the people are chattel...security for bank loans, and they have to pay the interest on the bank loans. That was the original purpose of Income Tax...to cover the interest.

So when they deduct Income tax from your pay, all you are doing is giving the Shylock Fed a pound of your flesh. In 1913, the American people went from being the creditors of the US to being just so many cattle, born, bred & raised to make the bankers happy and putting them in charge of your government as its creditor.

I don't see how that isn't just thinly disguised slavery, do you?

so,you really think that Rights are conditional,and can be limited,or set aside by presidential Fiat or Legislation?

Victory Corps: 1942


August 1942.

"Training in marksmanship helps girls at Roosevelt High School in Los Angeles develop into responsible women. Part of Victory Corps activities there, rifle practice encourages girls to be accurate in handling firearms. Practicing on the rifle range in the school's basement." -- -- Shorpy Historical Photo Archive

I am expected to contribute to the society I live in, to give back in return for the 'freedoms' that are provided and protected by that society

I dont consider that enslavement,,,

no matter how many times I may say cutting down on cigarettes is the same as stopping smoking,,, it still wont be true

likewise, no matter how many times people repeat that regulating gun use and manufacturing is the same as taking away or banning guns,,,it still wont be true either


I wouldnt support my mom not being able to own her 'gun'

I would support keeping mentally unstable or untrained or emotionally troubled individuals from acquiring ARSENALS of weapons,,,,

So you identify your government as the society you owe? What about the American people who are your brothers and sisters? It is they who provided you with your freedoms, not the government...The only thing your government has done is take many of those freedoms away while it robs your American brothers and sisters of the wealth they produce to fund wars that kill people for profit. IMO, if you owe anything at all, it is a debt you should pay to your fellow americans, not a fraudulent debt to a gang of bankers who rob you all of your wealth.

Never forget...WE THE PEOPLE is the true government of your land and the society you live in...If your public servants are mistreating the people of your society, it is your burden to do the right thing and oppose them.