This is an example:

"mightymoe, I think you have illegal weapons in your house. I think I will send some of my henchmen over and you better give them unrestricted access to search your home.... or else.!!

I believe you have bad intentions, so you need to prove to me that you don't and that you don't have illegal weapons in your house. Or any weapons you do have need to be inspected. "

(That's pretty much what they are saying to Iran.)

And yes, Iran should trust America and Israel because after all, America and Israel have never lied to anyone or broken any treaties with anyone, and our politicians never lie about their intentions.

Iran should trust America like the Native Americans trusted America. Iran should trust America like Saddam trusted America.

Iran should trust America because after all they (the CIA) assisted in the overthrow of a democratically elected government and its head of government Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh on 19 August 1953,

The coup saw the transition of Mohammad-Rezā Shāh Pahlavi from a constitutional monarch to an authoritarian one who relied heavily on United States support to hold on to power until his own overthrow in February 1979.

Yes Iran should trust the west because Despite Mosaddegh's popular support, Britain was unwilling to negotiate its single most valuable foreign asset, and instigated a worldwide boycott of Iranian oil to pressure Iran economically.

Yep, no reason for Iran not to trust the global elite. They have been so trust worthy in the past. ...

Look it up where? I've read the IAEA reports that show Iran in compliance, The CIA intelligence assessment that shows they are not working on a nuclear weapons program, the unlawful assassinations of Iranian scientists & other provocations, etc....What have you read that your view differs so from mine? Where should I look things up to see where your views come from?

Well, instead of the argument from authority fallacy, how about you post the links?

As the late, great Murray Rothbard said, "The State is a gang of thieves writ large."

better check your figures again... did you forget about iraq? Before we took iraq out, we were helping them in a war with iran.. do you people just post stuff that sounds good to you or do you bother to check anything before you type?

Getting my info from the appropriate agencies instead of the MSM is an "argument from authority fallacy"?...That's rich, especially when you consider that I was only stating my opinion based on what I've read. As far as posting links I never bookmarked and read ages ago, I think you guys are as capable of using a search engine as I am, and can look it up for yourselves if you're curious, which I suspect you aren't; it appears to me you would rather parrot & support the current anti-Iran propaganda than try to make an objective finding on the matter.

Still, I suppose I should post something...How about Iran's pointing out the IAEA's use of negative innuendo in their more recent reports?:

http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Documents/Infcircs/2012/infcirc847.pdf




So? What's Iraq got to do with the topic at hand?



Specifically, what are you referring to?...or did you just post that because it sounded good to you? You really ought to have checked before you typed it, because it isn't clear to anyone what it's in reference to.

No, using accredited sources is admirable and unusual for Mingle.

Clearly, you misunderstood.

But thanks for the courtesy of the link, an interesting letter giving the Iranian perspective.

Well, your preconceptions are erroneous, but nonetheless, noted.

I am still discompooperated and flabbergasted the way People who live in free Countries admire those 13th-Century Tribalist places like Iran,or some of those other oppressive Cleric-run so called "Republics" and Oligarchies!

The Monarchy of Britain is pretty much the same kind of theocracy as Iran, except instead of a bunch of Muslim Imams being head of state, it is a single person who defends the faith of Christianity...same old ****, different pile. All they did was candy-coat the theocracy.

please allow me.....

your the one saying how nice and peaceful they are... get your facts straight

Where did I say that?...Are you sure you've got your facts straight?

You appear to be caught up in the "We're the good guys, they're the bad guys" propaganda drivel that's peddled in the media these days.

News flash: As far as governments go, there are no "good guys", only slightly differing degrees of bad guys.

To Iran's credit, they haven't started a war in 200 years; How long has it been in your country?

really? and they weren't in a with iraq and Israel? it doesn't matter who started what, fact is this is one of the few times they aren't in a war...

they proved themselves they have bad intentions, and all the world knows it but you... and if they did think i had illegal weapons in my house, they will search it, for the good of the people around me... do you think i should have illegal weapons and not be searched?

You have a right to bear arms. There are no "illegal" weapons.

The legislation they are passing is illegal. They are criminals. We should not have to obey tyrannic criminals.

right to "bear arms" doesn't mean anything thats made... i'm not sure where you people come up with this crap at... does the term "for the good of the people" mean anything to you? so, by your standards, i should be able to walk down the street with an RPG launcher with me?...

Like this strawman argument?



The lack of power in the position of the crown makes this analogy somewhat specious.

actually YES,but WOE if you use it in an Inconsistent Manner!

Still doesn't mean we ought to let Countries like NK or the Iran have any Nukes,moreover since they signed a Treaty pledging not to develop any,yet all the Evidence points to the contrary.