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So here's a term I think needs clarification.
one too many on this site. what do you think of posters that constantly have an opinion that is outrageous and just pisses people off? trolling The art of deliberately, cleverly, and secretly pissing people off, usually via the internet, using dialogue. Trolling does not mean just making rude remarks: Shouting swear words at someone doesn't count as trolling; it's just flaming, and isn't funny. Spam isn't trolling either; it pisses people off, but it's lame. The most essential part of trolling is convincing your victim that either a) truly believe in what you are saying, no matter how outrageous, or b) give your victim malicious instructions, under the guise of help. Trolling requires decieving; any trolling that doesn't involve decieving someone isn't trolling at all; it's just stupid. As such, your victim must not know that you are trolling; if he does, you are an unsuccesful troll. |
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So true!! Good Advise
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Edited by
TexasScoundrel
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Mon 02/18/13 03:26 AM
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Since you have accused me of trolling, I feel a need to reply. The views I post ARE my views on whatever subject is being discussed. I know many of my views are controversial, but that doesn't mean I'm trolling. It means I have different views than most. It's my feeling that having different views from the majority here is often an asset. How dull would it be if everyone agreed about everything all the time?
The most powerful tool to use against a troll is to simply ignore them. This takes away all their power to frustrate and, if that's what they're really up to, they'll get bored and leave. I've been posting my thoughts on this forum for a very long time. I don't think they've changed much over the years. Obviously, the moderators don't think I'm trolling because I've not been banned or even contacted and asked to turn it down. I never insult anyone, although sometimes the most insecure ones think I am. So, I try to point out that I'm not talking about them when I say something. It doesn't help much though. Some people seem to be looking for a reason to be insulted. |
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Edited by
mountainwatergirl
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Mon 02/18/13 09:33 AM
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Since you have accused me of trolling, I feel a need to reply. The views I post ARE my views on whatever subject is being discussed. I know many of my views are controversial, but that doesn't mean I'm trolling. It means I have different views than most. It's my feeling that having different views from the majority here is often an asset. How dull would it be if everyone agreed about everything all the time? The most powerful tool to use against a troll is to simply ignore them. This takes away all their power to frustrate and, if that's what they're really up to, they'll get bored and leave. I've been posting my thoughts on this forum for a very long time. I don't think they've changed much over the years. Obviously, the moderators don't think I'm trolling because I've not been banned or even contacted and asked to turn it down. I never insult anyone, although sometimes the most insecure ones think I am. So, I try to point out that I'm not talking about them when I say something. It doesn't help much though. Some people seem to be looking for a reason to be insulted. "As such, your victim must not know that you are trolling; if he does, you are an unsuccessful troll." just means you are a very successful Troll |
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I read many posts that are stupid and annoying; I know where Tex is coming from (have studied the same material) and I don't believe he is trolling, he is very honest about himself. I am absurd therefore I exist. And scared cows make the best hamburgers.
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what do you think of posters that constantly have an opinion that is outrageous and just pisses people off?
Are you confessing to something? |
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what do you think of posters that constantly have an opinion that is outrageous and just pisses people off?
Are you confessing to something? psh... my posts aren't outrageous and don't appear to piss people off lol My posts are bitter, angry, and sad lol, but nothing more. My views are far more of an understandable take, and more acceptable than someone I won't mention. His views are off the charts pissing some women off that he's such a piece of work. Whether he's being honest or not, even other men think his views are disrespectful to women. You're right up there with him lol, but your humor comes through just enough and softens the blow. |
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I read many posts that are stupid and annoying; I know where Tex is coming from (have studied the same material) and I don't believe he is trolling, he is very honest about himself. I am absurd therefore I exist. And scared cows make the best hamburgers. I had no idea. But, it makes sense. High five! |
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what do you think of posters that constantly have an opinion that is outrageous and just pisses people off?
Are you confessing to something? psh... my posts aren't outrageous and don't appear to piss people off lol My posts are bitter, angry, and sad lol, but nothing more. My views are far more of an understandable take, and more acceptable than someone I won't mention. His views are off the charts pissing some women off that he's such a piece of work. Whether he's being honest or not, even other men think his views are disrespectful to women. You're right up there with him lol, but your humor comes through just enough and softens the blow. haha, disrespectful to women... taking it a little personal? |
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I certainly hope I'm not a troll, I wanna be a dwarf when I grow up!
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what do you think of posters that constantly have an opinion that is outrageous and just pisses people off?
Are you confessing to something? psh... my posts aren't outrageous and don't appear to piss people off lol My posts are bitter, angry, and sad lol, but nothing more. My views are far more of an understandable take, and more acceptable than someone I won't mention. His views are off the charts pissing some women off that he's such a piece of work. Whether he's being honest or not, even other men think his views are disrespectful to women. You're right up there with him lol, but your humor comes through just enough and softens the blow. What you consider to be an "outrageous" post someone else may consider to be a reasonable opinion. You claim that your own posts are "more of an understandable take, and more acceptable." Well, someone else may not consider your posts to be more acceptable. One of your own posts could be considered "outrageous" by another member. The fact that you feel "pissed off" by someone else's post doesn't imply that everyone is "pissed off" by that post. In short, nobody here is qualified to determine which posts are universally "outrageous". Just as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, outrageous is also in the eye of the beholder. As long as an opinion is expressed in a way that doesn't violate site rules, that opinion is welcome here even if you or I think that the opinion is illogical. The moral of my story is this: Another person may appear to be a troll to you, but you could appear to be a troll to another person. Now, how about we pause for a pint? |
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Edited by
mountainwatergirl
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Mon 02/18/13 10:58 AM
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what do you think of posters that constantly have an opinion that is outrageous and just pisses people off?
Are you confessing to something? psh... my posts aren't outrageous and don't appear to piss people off lol My posts are bitter, angry, and sad lol, but nothing more. My views are far more of an understandable take, and more acceptable than someone I won't mention. His views are off the charts pissing some women off that he's such a piece of work. Whether he's being honest or not, even other men think his views are disrespectful to women. You're right up there with him lol, but your humor comes through just enough and softens the blow. What you consider to be an "outrageous" post someone else may consider to be a reasonable opinion. You claim that your own posts are "more of an understandable take, and more acceptable." Well, someone else may not consider your posts to be more acceptable. One of your own posts could be considered "outrageous" by another member. The fact that you feel "pissed off" by someone else's post doesn't imply that everyone is "pissed off" by that post. In short, nobody here is qualified to determine which posts are universally "outrageous". Just as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, outrageous is also in the eye of the beholder. As long as an opinion is expressed in a way that doesn't violate site rules, that opinion is welcome here even if you or I think that the opinion is illogical. The moral of my story is this: Another person may appear to be a troll to you, but you could appear to be a troll to another person. Now, how about we pause for a pint? If in doubt of what a troll is, please read the OP again. I didn't even write it..... so it's widely known. I think most people can look up the definition of outrageous...and compare it to the norm and see the big difference. Ok, so I'll admit, his posts don't piss all women off, but he has gotten some responses from very respectable women that didn't appreciate his views being so piggish. He gets off on posting male pig comments and views...that IS upsetting to read...that is by definition...a Troll. |
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I read many posts that are stupid and annoying; I know where Tex is coming from (have studied the same material) and I don't believe he is trolling, he is very honest about himself. I am absurd therefore I exist. And scared cows make the best hamburgers. I suggest you read the OP as well. Definition is clearly posted. We can't even be sure his views are real. They are off the charts for just about every other man here. absurd points of view, is by definition, a troll. Troll doesn't mean stupid and annoying. If that were the case, you'd be a Troll too. lol |
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what do you think of posters that constantly have an opinion that is outrageous and just pisses people off?
Are you confessing to something? psh... my posts aren't outrageous and don't appear to piss people off lol My posts are bitter, angry, and sad lol, but nothing more. My views are far more of an understandable take, and more acceptable than someone I won't mention. His views are off the charts pissing some women off that he's such a piece of work. Whether he's being honest or not, even other men think his views are disrespectful to women. You're right up there with him lol, but your humor comes through just enough and softens the blow. What you consider to be an "outrageous" post someone else may consider to be a reasonable opinion. You claim that your own posts are "more of an understandable take, and more acceptable." Well, someone else may not consider your posts to be more acceptable. One of your own posts could be considered "outrageous" by another member. The fact that you feel "pissed off" by someone else's post doesn't imply that everyone is "pissed off" by that post. In short, nobody here is qualified to determine which posts are universally "outrageous". Just as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, outrageous is also in the eye of the beholder. As long as an opinion is expressed in a way that doesn't violate site rules, that opinion is welcome here even if you or I think that the opinion is illogical. The moral of my story is this: Another person may appear to be a troll to you, but you could appear to be a troll to another person. Now, how about we pause for a pint? If in doubt of what a troll is, please read the OP again. I didn't even write it..... so it's widely known. I think most people can look up the definition of outrageous...and compare it to the norm and see the big difference. Ok, so I'll admit, his posts don't piss all women off, but he has gotten some responses from very respectable women that didn't appreciate his views being so piggish. He gets off on posting male pig comments and views...that IS upsetting to read...that is by definition...a Troll. Well, you have said something that I consider to be outrageous, and you act as if you believe what you said. So, are you a troll? |
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Edited by
mountainwatergirl
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Mon 02/18/13 11:07 AM
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what do you think of posters that constantly have an opinion that is outrageous and just pisses people off?
Are you confessing to something? psh... my posts aren't outrageous and don't appear to piss people off lol My posts are bitter, angry, and sad lol, but nothing more. My views are far more of an understandable take, and more acceptable than someone I won't mention. His views are off the charts pissing some women off that he's such a piece of work. Whether he's being honest or not, even other men think his views are disrespectful to women. You're right up there with him lol, but your humor comes through just enough and softens the blow. What you consider to be an "outrageous" post someone else may consider to be a reasonable opinion. You claim that your own posts are "more of an understandable take, and more acceptable." Well, someone else may not consider your posts to be more acceptable. One of your own posts could be considered "outrageous" by another member. The fact that you feel "pissed off" by someone else's post doesn't imply that everyone is "pissed off" by that post. In short, nobody here is qualified to determine which posts are universally "outrageous". Just as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, outrageous is also in the eye of the beholder. As long as an opinion is expressed in a way that doesn't violate site rules, that opinion is welcome here even if you or I think that the opinion is illogical. The moral of my story is this: Another person may appear to be a troll to you, but you could appear to be a troll to another person. Now, how about we pause for a pint? If in doubt of what a troll is, please read the OP again. I didn't even write it..... so it's widely known. I think most people can look up the definition of outrageous...and compare it to the norm and see the big difference. Ok, so I'll admit, his posts don't piss all women off, but he has gotten some responses from very respectable women that didn't appreciate his views being so piggish. He gets off on posting male pig comments and views...that IS upsetting to read...that is by definition...a Troll. Well, you have said something that I consider to be outrageous, and you act as if you believe what you said. So, are you a troll? I didn't ever say I wasn't capable of trolling. lol Just because I posted this, doesn't mean I am troll free lol I posted this, to make others aware of what trolling is...as it seems most needed to know. The Troll I speak of, didn't even know he was trolling either. But because you brought it up... do you want to share with us what I said that was outrageous? |
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Become a regular poster over on the Internet Movie Database, then you'll know what a true troll is.
I think the OP definition is only partly right(a troll always knows they are trolling and their main goal is to upset people), and even though I don't agree with most of what Texas Scoundrel says, he's not a troll, just someone with strong opinions. |
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Oh oh, there's the troll Torgo!
It is outrageous he posts all these old movies I don't remember, and upsets me! And I think he slew b too! |
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Maybe you think my views are "outrageous" because you don't understand them. Maybe you attach some meaning to some of my posts that I never meant to imply.
Allow me to go over a few. I do not think women deserve respect simply because they are women. Respect is earned by deeds and achievements, not because of one's gender. This applies to everyone. However, everyone deserves politeness. Everyone should hold the door for the person behind them. I think marriage is outdated. There was a time when it served a purpose, but that time is over. There's no need for two people to share their assets to such an extent anymore. You can love, commit, be faithful and even have and raise children today without the entanglements of marriage. Furthermore, marriage is no guarantee of fidelity. I think sex is fun. I see no reason to be involved in a committed relationship to enjoy it. It's not special. People do it everyday, all over the world. It's just fun. I think younger women are generally more attractive than are older ones. This isn't always the case, but usually holds true. I also think younger women are more open minded and less set in their ways. What is so offensive about any of this? What is so outrageous? What is so different about it that it upsets you to such a degree? |
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To the best of my knowledge, nobody here has been elected or appointed the judge of who is a troll and who isn't.
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