So there's no hope for us romance - driven men?

nO !!

Some people don't have a very realistic view about love or marriage...They aren't really prepared for a life of dirty socks and bills to pay and nights when their partner is dead-tired from a long and hard day at work...Life can still be pleasant even though there is stuff to do besides just sitting around and hugging and kissing and doing non-stop "baby talk."...I think it helps to have a realistic view about marriage versus expecting married life to be about love, love, love and more love (and romance galore) day and night...Don't you?

I think there's nothing wrong with that at all. I think i would rather hang out with people who see romance in everything rather than haters. What do you think?

Edit to add....just about everything anyhoo.

That's easy for you to say as you're taken.


Kicks a turtle!

Every relationship needs a sprinkling of romance and fun and play to keep things "alive." This is how I feel anyway...But I just don't want to feel obligated to play out a role in a movie or romance novel 24/7...This can get old and be boring. I don't like "set roles" very much...They can be too confining and limiting and restrictive...I don't want my wings "clipped!" I want to feel "free" to spread my wings and explore new aspects and sides to myself all the time...And I enjoy being around "multi-dimensional men" too.

Aw, there's the communication problem! I don't clip wings, I encourage my mate to spread them and fly to the sun! And I can be cranky too, so I'm multidimensional!

It's not about hate...A person can still see joy in life and have fun even though they don't want to do fairy-tales per se...We never really heard what happened to Snow White or Cinderella after they got married...We were just told that they lived "happily ever after" minus the details...I think the divorce rate is sky-high because couples get married with tons of illusions. They expect to live "happily ever after" too but when the honeymoon phase ends and "real life" sets in they are "bummed" and disappointed...Some even feel "tricked" or "cheated" and super angry about it too...And they bring their anger and "old baggage" with them into new relationships...I think it's smart and wise to be a little more realistic ahead of time and ready to love but prepared for "real life" too...Maybe couples would benefit from taking classes on "creative problem solving." Or classes about working together as a team. Or how to make everyday chores less stressful and more fun etc.

Yeah; I like straight talk myself and tell guys to cut the crap. If a guy is all over the romantic stuff; then yep he will appear clingy and needy which is hugh turnoff.

So you are saying I shouldn't bring flowers on a first date?

Yes; that is exactly what I am saying. Just bring a smile and good attitude. That would go a long way to reach my heart.

I love a romantic man, one that is affectionate and kind-hearted in many ways. I have not met a romance addict.

Well, yeah... I'd have to agree with that!

I guess that the word love has so many different meanings that I over-looked what you were referring to.
So thanks for taking the time to explain it further.

I'm not a big fan of flowers...But a box of chocolate truffles or candy would be nice...I brought my female friend some french vanilla coffee when I stopped by to see her yesterday...She and her husband sent me home with a couple of steaks the other day...I brought one steak over to my neighbor who is a widower...Sometimes it's fun to bring special treats over to friends...I'm not against any of this...If someone invites me to dinner I try to bring a little something...I don't necessarily view it as romance...It's just fun to spoil the people we care about and bring treats or gifts when we feel like it and can...I'm not good with flowers. They are pretty but I feel sad when they die and I have to throw them away...Living plants probably work better for me.

Some people don't have a very realistic view about love or marriage...They aren't really prepared for a life of dirty socks and bills to pay and nights when their partner is dead-tired from a long and hard day at work...Life can still be pleasant even though there is stuff to do besides just sitting around and hugging and kissing and doing non-stop "baby talk."...I think it helps to have a realistic view about marriage versus expecting married life to be about love, love, love and more love (and romance galore) day and night...Don't you?

Well, yeah... I'd have to agree with that!

I guess that the word love has so many different meanings that I over-looked what you were referring to.
So thanks for taking the time to explain it further.

I guess I am a difficult gal. I am not a fan of flowers, chocolate, lingerie, and especially jewelry. Now maybe a nice new Dewalt drill might get my attention.

My husband had cute (and low-key ways) of sneaking in romance once in awhile and making me smile. (And blush!)...Early in our relationship he changed the chorus line of a popular Neil Diamond song without telling me in advance. ("Sweet Caroline.")...He replaced "Sweet Caroline" with "sweet Claire of mine!" (My name.)...And he sang the song and his special chorus line (for me) everytime the song came on the radio in such a cute, cute way. (Straight from his heart!) And I loved it!...When I hear the song today I feel like he's talking to me and reminding me that he loves me! (I'm shedding a few tears right now.)...Anyway I'm glad he snuck in a little romance once in awhile! He was sure cute!...But it would been hard for me to live and breathe romance every single second of each day.

Thanks...I care about people and couples...I'd love to see every marriage and relationship succeed...It's sad when people become disillusioned and lose faith and trust and give up on love entirely. (Due to negative and unhappy experiences in their past.)

In regard to marriages/relationships that "fail", I don't think it has so much to do with a loss love... it's more like a loss of friendship/respect.
Love has endurance... imho... but some fall in love with aspects of another and don't take the time to see/know the whole person.

How folks express love is their own business... sometimes two peoples' ways can conflict though... and if we don't keep our eyes open in the early days, things can pile up fast.