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Topic: The Pope Stepping Down
Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 02/19/13 03:56 AM
The New Pope -- and the New World Order On Feb. 10, the world was shocked to hear that Pope Benedict would step down from his Papal office on Feb. 28, and become the first leader of the Catholic church to resign from office in over 500 years. However, speculation for his replacement is already under way, and the front runner to become the next Pope has strong ties to the creation of a global economic system, as well as being a prime candidate to an ancient Catholic prophecy suggesting he would help lead the world into a new order. The front runner to be the next pope is this man, Cardinal Peter Kodwo Appiah Turkson. Cardinal Turkson has said that "if God would wish to see a black man also as pope, thanks be to God". The Catholic Church chronicler Rocco Palmo called Turkson the lone Scripture scholar in the Pope's "Senate" and believes that his status as a potential "papabile " has been elevated due to his appointment as spokesman for Second Synod for Africa in 2009. While Pope Benedict's decision to resign in office may have come as a shock to some, the interesting coincidence of the timing may be in recognition to the fact that the world, like in 2008, is rushing headlong into another global economic crisis, with several countries engaging in a currency war that started less than a month ago. As Cardinal Turkson was intricately involved in the research by the church to call for a new global economic authority, it may not be coincidence that he is being seen as the front runner to replace the current Pontiff, and is already prepared to lead the church into a new era. Additionally, the very name of Cardinal Peter Turkson strikes deep into the heart of an ancient Catholic prophecy, where the final Pope before the biblical end times would be known as Peter the Roman, or Petrus Romanus, and is believed to be alive today according to a book written in 2012 by author and researcher Tom Horn. Read more here: http://www.examiner.com/article/top-candidate-to-be-next-pope-has-ties-to-creation-of-global-economic-system The Pope succeeding Pius XII was the Last Pope,and every one since! That's why the Rolling Stones wrote the Song;"This Will Be The Last Pope,This Will Be The Last Pope....................."!

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 02/19/13 03:57 AM
I could tell you who conspired to get the Pope to resign,but I won't! It's a dark,dark Cabal! So secret not even those involved really know! Those damn Rothchilds! actually it is those Denizens from Lower Slobbovia! Who? THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 02/19/13 09:47 AM
Who will be the next pope? The contenders for Vatican's top job http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/11/next-pope-contenders-vatican-job

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 02/19/13 09:49 AM
Who will be the next pope? The contenders for Vatican's top job http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/11/next-pope-contenders-vatican-job Ring! Battle Royal! And we'll know now!

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Wed 02/20/13 02:06 AM
Pretty sure he resigned because of the pedophilia cover up. As a cardinal, Pope Benedict XVI and other Vatican officials did not punish or even hold a trial within the Catholic church for a Wisconsin priest who may have molested as many as 200 deaf boys, according to The New York Times. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/24/pope-sexual-abuse-lawrence-murphy_n_512483.html

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Wed 02/20/13 02:50 AM
Pretty sure he resigned because of the pedophilia cover up. As a cardinal, Pope Benedict XVI and other Vatican officials did not punish or even hold a trial within the Catholic church for a Wisconsin priest who may have molested as many as 200 deaf boys, according to The New York Times. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/24/pope-sexual-abuse-lawrence-murphy_n_512483.html Trial? For Criminal Offenses? That Authority does NOT belong to the Catholic or any other Church! They can Defrock him once he's been convicted by the Civilian Authorities. Innocent until proven Guilty even within the Catholic Church,unless you recommend a Kangaroo-Court!

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Wed 02/20/13 01:40 PM
Pretty sure he resigned because of the pedophilia cover up. As a cardinal, Pope Benedict XVI and other Vatican officials did not punish or even hold a trial within the Catholic church for a Wisconsin priest who may have molested as many as 200 deaf boys, according to The New York Times. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/24/pope-sexual-abuse-lawrence-murphy_n_512483.html Trial? For Criminal Offenses? That Authority does NOT belong to the Catholic or any other Church! They can Defrock him once he's been convicted by the Civilian Authorities. Innocent until proven Guilty even within the Catholic Church,unless you recommend a Kangaroo-Court! Thought I had seen it all now your defending people who defend and cover up for pedophiles.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Wed 02/20/13 01:43 PM
Pretty sure he resigned because of the pedophilia cover up. As a cardinal, Pope Benedict XVI and other Vatican officials did not punish or even hold a trial within the Catholic church for a Wisconsin priest who may have molested as many as 200 deaf boys, according to The New York Times. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/24/pope-sexual-abuse-lawrence-murphy_n_512483.html Trial? For Criminal Offenses? That Authority does NOT belong to the Catholic or any other Church! They can Defrock him once he's been convicted by the Civilian Authorities. Innocent until proven Guilty even within the Catholic Church,unless you recommend a Kangaroo-Court! Thought I had seen it all now your defending people who defend and cover up for pedophiles. nope Old Son,just stating Facts!

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Wed 02/20/13 02:06 PM
Pretty sure he resigned because of the pedophilia cover up. As a cardinal, Pope Benedict XVI and other Vatican officials did not punish or even hold a trial within the Catholic church for a Wisconsin priest who may have molested as many as 200 deaf boys, according to The New York Times. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/24/pope-sexual-abuse-lawrence-murphy_n_512483.html Trial? For Criminal Offenses? That Authority does NOT belong to the Catholic or any other Church! They can Defrock him once he's been convicted by the Civilian Authorities. Innocent until proven Guilty even within the Catholic Church,unless you recommend a Kangaroo-Court! Thought I had seen it all now your defending people who defend and cover up for pedophiles. nope Old Son,just stating Facts! Facts. On Wednesday, the Pope accepted the resignation of Bishop John Magee, an Irish bishop, for his failure to report child-molesting priests to police. Last week, the Pope issued an unprecedented letter to Ireland addressing the 16 years of church cover-up scandals there. But he has yet to say anything about his handling of an abuse case in Germany. In that case, Ratzinger approved the 1980 transfer of Rev. Peter Hullermann to a psychological treatment center to receive treatment for pedophilia. Ratziner, then a cardinal, was the archbishop of Munich and did not report Hullermann's alleged abuse of boys to German police. Since January, more than 300 former Catholic school students and others have stepped forward with abuse claims and the church has seen it's poll numbers fall drastically. According to Stern magazine, Only 17 percent of Germans polled said that they still trust the Catholic church, compared to 29 percent in late January, just before the first abuse cases there were made public. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/24/pope-sexual-abuse-lawrence-murphy_n_512483.html A blogger at the post says it best. Why can't the UN impose sanctions on the vatican, no fly zone, and cut off imports. They will crumble due to starvation in a few months, or meet the will of the world, and disclose all their documents. this just feels like war crimes against children. http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=ytff1-yff13&p=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2010%2F03%2F24%2Fpope-sexual-abuse-lawrence-murphy_n_512483.html%20&type=

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Thu 02/21/13 10:09 AM
The church sure love boys, alot.

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Thu 02/21/13 10:48 AM Edited by Ras427 on Thu 02/21/13 10:51 AM
Pretty sure he resigned because of the pedophilia cover up. As a cardinal, Pope Benedict XVI and other Vatican officials did not punish or even hold a trial within the Catholic church for a Wisconsin priest who may have molested as many as 200 deaf boys, according to The New York Times. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/24/pope-sexual-abuse-lawrence-murphy_n_512483.html Trial? For Criminal Offenses? That Authority does NOT belong to the Catholic or any other Church! They can Defrock him once he's been convicted by the Civilian Authorities. Innocent until proven Guilty even within the Catholic Church,unless you recommend a Kangaroo-Court! The Catholic church does have its Canon Laws system to address such issues such as misconduct, much the same as Jewish Rabbinical courts and Islamic Sharia courts. But you are correct that criminal misconduct fall within judicial authorities. As for kangaroo courts, we do have our fair share of those as well. The consistant practice of pedophilia within the church can be traced back for centuries. When someone is accused of molesting 200 boys, there is usually merit to those claims. Finally, there is NO SUCH THING as "innocent until proven guilty".

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48950	Thu 02/21/13 11:20 AM
Finally, there is NO SUCH THING as "innocent until proven guilty". Apparently, you are not familiar with the court system in the USA, in which defendants are considered innocent until proven guilty.

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Thu 02/21/13 11:40 AM Edited by Ras427 on Thu 02/21/13 11:43 AM
Finally, there is NO SUCH THING as "innocent until proven guilty". Apparently, you are not familiar with the court system in the USA, in which defendants are considered innocent until proven guilty. If you were innocent until proven guilty, there would be no reason for a trial to determine your innocence. The truth is you are guilty until proven innocent. Once you are arrested given bail, you are considered guilty by the prosecution, you therefore have to prove innocence. If you were considered innocent there would be no trial. The prosecution already consider you guilty or else they wouldnt be prosecuting you. The saying "innocent until proven guilty" just sounds nice, but far from the reality of an often corrupt system.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Thu 02/21/13 11:49 AM
Finally, there is NO SUCH THING as "innocent until proven guilty". Apparently, you are not familiar with the court system in the USA, in which defendants are considered innocent until proven guilty. If you were innocent until proven guilty, there would be no reason for a trial to determine your innocence. The truth is you are guilty until proven innocent. Once you are arrested given bail, you are considered guilty by the prosecution, you therefore have to prove innocence. If you were considered innocent there would be no trial. The prosecution already consider you guilty or else they wouldnt be prosecuting you. The saying "innocent until proven guilty" just sounds nice, but far from the reality of an often corrupt system. Yes they are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. That is the claim. In reality, sometimes that is all just words. But if the system works the way it should, the courts have the burden of proof. People should never plead guilty or plea bargain if there is any chance that the court can't prove their case. BUT things seem to be changing with Obama trying to get the right to kill American "suspected terrorists" in another country. They already are killing suspected terrorists without a trial in other countries. Now they are trying to get the legal authority to do the same with Americans who are suspected. When do you think a policy like that will include suspects in America? As soon as the New World Government comes into power.

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48950	Thu 02/21/13 12:13 PM
When do you think a policy like that will include suspects in America? As soon as the New World Government comes into power.

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Thu 02/21/13 12:14 PM
Finally, there is NO SUCH THING as "innocent until proven guilty". Apparently, you are not familiar with the court system in the USA, in which defendants are considered innocent until proven guilty. If you were innocent until proven guilty, there would be no reason for a trial to determine your innocence. The truth is you are guilty until proven innocent. Once you are arrested given bail, you are considered guilty by the prosecution, you therefore have to prove innocence. If you were considered innocent there would be no trial. The prosecution already consider you guilty or else they wouldnt be prosecuting you. The saying "innocent until proven guilty" just sounds nice, but far from the reality of an often corrupt system. Yes they are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. That is the claim. In reality, sometimes that is all just words. But if the system works the way it should, the courts have the burden of proof. People should never plead guilty or plea bargain if there is any chance that the court can't prove their case. BUT things seem to be changing with Obama trying to get the right to kill American "suspected terrorists" in another country. They already are killing suspected terrorists without a trial in other countries. Now they are trying to get the legal authority to do the same with Americans who are suspected. When do you think a policy like that will include suspects in America? As soon as the New World Government comes into power. As you might know, MFD mobile flying devices are miniture drones. Most are the size of a standard cell phone. They are silent efficient killers control in a secure location. They can carry out survailence and require little maintnence, they are cheap to produce and manufacter. They are simple to charge as well, they are also deadly accurate. They can be fitted with explosive devices or can be made to explode on your shoulder along with the rest of you. They are considered ideal for law enforcment in that you can manuever them with better ease than standard drones. You can use them for many possibilities. With them highly regarded during the assault on Fallujah in 2002, they proved quite usefull in flying them quetly into your home and killing whomever. They are an upgrade from drones and can function in much the same way as targeted killing phones and other devices of micro mechanical design made popular by Isreali targeted killing of Palestinian militants. The NYPD, LAPD, and many militerized police dept. have ordered such devices from Homeland security as recently as yesterday. Now why and what are they expecting?

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Thu 02/21/13 12:16 PM
Finally, there is NO SUCH THING as "innocent until proven guilty". Apparently, you are not familiar with the court system in the USA, in which defendants are considered innocent until proven guilty. If you were innocent until proven guilty, there would be no reason for a trial to determine your innocence. The truth is you are guilty until proven innocent. Once you are arrested given bail, you are considered guilty by the prosecution, you therefore have to prove innocence. If you were considered innocent there would be no trial. The prosecution already consider you guilty or else they wouldnt be prosecuting you. The saying "innocent until proven guilty" just sounds nice, but far from the reality of an often corrupt system. Yes they are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. That is the claim. In reality, sometimes that is all just words. But if the system works the way it should, the courts have the burden of proof. People should never plead guilty or plea bargain if there is any chance that the court can't prove their case. BUT things seem to be changing with Obama trying to get the right to kill American "suspected terrorists" in another country. They already are killing suspected terrorists without a trial in other countries. Now they are trying to get the legal authority to do the same with Americans who are suspected. When do you think a policy like that will include suspects in America? As soon as the New World Government comes into power. As you might know, MFD mobile flying devices are miniture drones. Most are the size of a standard cell phone. They are silent efficient killers control in a secure location. They can carry out survailence and require little maintnence, they are cheap to produce and manufacter. They are simple to charge as well, they are also deadly accurate. They can be fitted with explosive devices or can be made to explode on your shoulder along with the rest of you. They are considered ideal for law enforcment in that you can manuever them with better ease than standard drones. You can use them for many possibilities. With them highly regarded during the assault on Fallujah in 2002, they proved quite usefull in flying them quetly into your home and killing whomever. They are an upgrade from drones and can function in much the same way as targeted killing phones and other devices of micro mechanical design made popular by Isreali targeted killing of Palestinian militants. The NYPD, LAPD, and many militerized police dept. have ordered such devices from Homeland security as recently as yesterday. Now why and what are they expecting? I best get busy practicing my skeet shooting..... LOL

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Thu 02/21/13 12:28 PM
When do you think a policy like that will include suspects in America? As soon as the New World Government comes into power. The funny thing about "its a conspiracy" is that the word could not exist without conspiracy. The word "conspiracy" only exists because of the consistant actions of men throughout history. Conspiracy is at the core of the constant spiral of the present world. But the funniest thing about "conspiracy" is that it lives and comes from the heart of men. In fact, conspiracy is one of mans greatests past times. This reality scare the crap out of many, hence the adoptation and creation of "its a conspiracy".

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Thu 02/21/13 01:32 PM
midst growing efforts by international law advocates to arrest and prosecute Pope Benedict for the Church's cover-up of child sex crimes, Vatican officials have announced they will give the retiring Pontiff sanctuary, arguing that otherwise he would be "defenseless" - a feeling likely familiar to the Church's many victims of sexual abuse. A week before his resignation, the Pope reportedly heard from an undisclosed European government that the International Tribunal into Crimes Against Church and State (ITCCS) had called on "all people of conscience" to "disestablish the Vatican," and seek Benedict's and others' arrests for crimes against humanity. Their call comes as part of an upcoming Easter Reclamation Campaign that also seeks to seize the assets of the Church under international law. In addition, the New York-based Centre for Constitutional Rights has requested, on behalf of the Survivors' Network, an international inquiry into the Church's sheltering of pedophile priests. Pope Benedict is reportedly scheduled to meet next week with Italian President Giorgio Napolitano to request immunity against allegations of child rape. We don't really wish him well; we simply wish him what he legally and morally deserves. "We call upon all citizens and governments to assist our efforts to legally disestablish the Vatican, Inc. and arrest its chief officers and clergy who are complicit in crimes against humanity and the ongoing criminal conspiracy to aid and protect child torture and trafficking." http://www.commondreams.org/further/2013/02/19 The only "conspiracy" I see is the vatican trying to cover up for pedophiles

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Thu 02/21/13 02:28 PM
midst growing efforts by international law advocates to arrest and prosecute Pope Benedict for the Church's cover-up of child sex crimes, Vatican officials have announced they will give the retiring Pontiff sanctuary, arguing that otherwise he would be "defenseless" - a feeling likely familiar to the Church's many victims of sexual abuse. A week before his resignation, the Pope reportedly heard from an undisclosed European government that the International Tribunal into Crimes Against Church and State (ITCCS) had called on "all people of conscience" to "disestablish the Vatican," and seek Benedict's and others' arrests for crimes against humanity. Their call comes as part of an upcoming Easter Reclamation Campaign that also seeks to seize the assets of the Church under international law. In addition, the New York-based Centre for Constitutional Rights has requested, on behalf of the Survivors' Network, an international inquiry into the Church's sheltering of pedophile priests. Pope Benedict is reportedly scheduled to meet next week with Italian President Giorgio Napolitano to request immunity against allegations of child rape. We don't really wish him well; we simply wish him what he legally and morally deserves. "We call upon all citizens and governments to assist our efforts to legally disestablish the Vatican, Inc. and arrest its chief officers and clergy who are complicit in crimes against humanity and the ongoing criminal conspiracy to aid and protect child torture and trafficking." http://www.commondreams.org/further/2013/02/19 The only "conspiracy" I see is the vatican trying to cover up for pedophiles I can just imagin the many nameless and faceless victims unknown to all throughout the churches long and secretive history when there was no means of exposing pedophilia in the church.