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Topic: Love is costly...
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Fri 02/01/13 03:43 AM
we’ve begun
when
we’re done

musing

stains
my brain

fingertips too

words suffice
dissolved in ice

temperature zero
where’s my hero

the air’s breath
whispers softly

love is costly

her denial
is suicidal
never bridal

you walk >>>

before you fall

stand tall

head strong

you still belong

loveAR©02/01/13love

Zimzane2's photo
Fri 02/01/13 05:17 AM
:smile: Thank you Anthena.

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Fri 02/01/13 05:50 AM
flowers :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: flowers

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Fri 02/01/13 06:34 AM
thanks zim... flowerforyou

Jeff.. as always... :heart: flowerforyou

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Fri 02/01/13 08:21 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Fri 02/01/13 08:21 AM
Loved the write but must ask...

If what you seek is something of value, how can a price be placed upon it.

Is it not justified by our willingness to obtain what we seek?

Then again, if we feel the price too high, is it worth it in the beginning or the end?


Just pondering for my own clarity as it seems more about justification rather than desire.

Am I correct?

Teditis's photo
Fri 02/01/13 11:28 AM

we’ve begun
when
we’re done

musing

stains
my brain

fingertips too

words suffice
dissolved in ice

temperature zero
where’s my hero

the air’s breath
whispers softly

love is costly

her denial
is suicidal
never bridal

you walk >>>

before you fall

stand tall

head strong

you still belong

loveAR©02/01/13love


Enjoyable... and the encouragement that you offer at the end seems rather typicl of you... a good soul.flowerforyou

Teditis's photo
Fri 02/01/13 11:44 AM

Loved the write but must ask...

If what you seek is something of value, how can a price be placed upon it.

Is it not justified by our willingness to obtain what we seek?

Then again, if we feel the price too high, is it worth it in the beginning or the end?


Just pondering for my own clarity as it seems more about justification rather than desire.

Am I correct?

Now this makes me think... tyvm.drinker

idk if the cost is always worth the reward.
Even if the price seems high at the start,
there's that secondary reward of experience.
The pain... well, that's a personal relativistic thingie, huh?
I'll let each set their own price on experiencing that.

And then that's old-school belief that realations with others... the others, themselves... are always worth our time and energy.
(We all deserve the attention of another human being, no? Or perhaps that's just guilt talking?)
A long way of clarifying that I need more time to think on this. haha.

But a question? "justified by our willingness to obtain"?
Is that another way of giving the road to "the ends justify the means"? "Law of the Jungle"?
I'm seem to doubt it coming from you... could you clarify?
Does or willingness to persue love give us justification to hurt... ourselves and/or other?

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Fri 02/01/13 12:12 PM
Awosome!

oldhippie1952's photo
Fri 02/01/13 12:18 PM
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Fri 02/01/13 01:59 PM


Loved the write but must ask...

If what you seek is something of value, how can a price be placed upon it.

Is it not justified by our willingness to obtain what we seek?

Then again, if we feel the price too high, is it worth it in the beginning or the end?


Just pondering for my own clarity as it seems more about justification rather than desire.

Am I correct?

Now this makes me think... tyvm.drinker

idk if the cost is always worth the reward.
Even if the price seems high at the start,
there's that secondary reward of experience.
The pain... well, that's a personal relativistic thingie, huh?
I'll let each set their own price on experiencing that.

And then that's old-school belief that realations with others... the others, themselves... are always worth our time and energy.
(We all deserve the attention of another human being, no? Or perhaps that's just guilt talking?)
A long way of clarifying that I need more time to think on this. haha.

But a question? "justified by our willingness to obtain"?
Is that another way of giving the road to "the ends justify the means"? "Law of the Jungle"?
I'm seem to doubt it coming from you... could you clarify?
Does or willingness to persue love give us justification to hurt... ourselves and/or other?


"justified by our willingness to obtain"

If we "choose" to seek a prize, a goal, an outcome, let our desire rule over our logic, it can be the law of the jungle, a wish to dominate, or a simple hope, but how often do we let logic consider the cost?

That was my pondering. Whether the piece was about justification (afterthought) or desire (forethought)...a double edged sword at best.

Teditis's photo
Fri 02/01/13 02:11 PM



Loved the write but must ask...

If what you seek is something of value, how can a price be placed upon it.

Is it not justified by our willingness to obtain what we seek?

Then again, if we feel the price too high, is it worth it in the beginning or the end?


Just pondering for my own clarity as it seems more about justification rather than desire.

Am I correct?

Now this makes me think... tyvm.drinker

idk if the cost is always worth the reward.
Even if the price seems high at the start,
there's that secondary reward of experience.
The pain... well, that's a personal relativistic thingie, huh?
I'll let each set their own price on experiencing that.

And then that's old-school belief that realations with others... the others, themselves... are always worth our time and energy.
(We all deserve the attention of another human being, no? Or perhaps that's just guilt talking?)
A long way of clarifying that I need more time to think on this. haha.

But a question? "justified by our willingness to obtain"?
Is that another way of giving the road to "the ends justify the means"? "Law of the Jungle"?
I'm seem to doubt it coming from you... could you clarify?
Does or willingness to persue love give us justification to hurt... ourselves and/or other?


"justified by our willingness to obtain"

If we "choose" to seek a prize, a goal, an outcome, let our desire rule over our logic, it can be the law of the jungle, a wish to dominate, or a simple hope, but how often do we let logic consider the cost?

That was my pondering. Whether the piece was about justification (afterthought) or desire (forethought)...a double edged sword at best.

I hate those d*mned swords, haha. (js)
Life seems sharp and pointy enough.

Logic, ha... I've studied beyond my fill.
I prefer my intuition nowadays. And my heart's desires.
(Not that logic doesn't have it's place.)
AR's call to stand... before the fall... 'cause we all belong.

TY for the response.

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Fri 02/01/13 02:15 PM
Edited by AthenaRose2 on Fri 02/01/13 02:17 PM

Loved the write but must ask...

If what you seek is something of value, how can a price be placed upon it.

Is it not justified by our willingness to obtain what we seek?

Then again, if we feel the price too high, is it worth it in the beginning or the end?

Just pondering for my own clarity as it seems more about justification rather than desire.

Am I correct?


Hello Soul... you cannot put a price on something that is given away.. and my personal view on what love means to me, is self sacrifice. To love another person means that I am willing to give/sacrifice everything I have whether it be money, my health, or my life to ensure the happiness of another. I believe Webster's also defines "cost" as being a sacrifice. In order to understand what I said about love being costly, you would have to first understand my view of it. Those that really know me, already understand how I am. Okay, I'm a freak of nature.. we all have our cross to bear.. :)

I know that most people don't agree with me on this issue.. and that's cool.. to each his own... love is priceless and also requires sacrifice.

I normally do not explain the meaning behind my work, but I will this time. Only in brief tho, I won't go line by line.

This piece is about a friend of mine and me going our separate ways, and there was/is a deep love involved in the relationship. In order for me to cope with the loss, the lost friendship, the sacrifice, the lost love, as it meant more to me than it did to him, I have to think it out and express it. In the end I encourage myself to stay strong, hold my head up, and continue to feel like I belong, even if it's not to him anymore.

I hope my opening myself up like this has helped you to obtain the answer you were seeking.. and thank you for reading my work and contemplating its meaning.. flowerforyou

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Fri 02/01/13 02:21 PM


we’ve begun
when
we’re done

musing

stains
my brain

fingertips too

words suffice
dissolved in ice

temperature zero
where’s my hero

the air’s breath
whispers softly

love is costly

her denial
is suicidal
never bridal

you walk >>>

before you fall

stand tall

head strong

you still belong

loveAR©02/01/13love


Enjoyable... and the encouragement that you offer at the end seems rather typicl of you... a good soul.flowerforyou


My my, where have I heard that phrase once before... I'm typical... lol... well, that's better than being called other things not befitting your gentlemanly demeanor.. Teditis, Sir... hehehe

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Fri 02/01/13 02:26 PM


Loved the write but must ask...

If what you seek is something of value, how can a price be placed upon it.

Is it not justified by our willingness to obtain what we seek?

Then again, if we feel the price too high, is it worth it in the beginning or the end?

Just pondering for my own clarity as it seems more about justification rather than desire.

Am I correct?

Now this makes me think... tyvm.drinker

idk if the cost is always worth the reward.
Even if the price seems high at the start,
there's that secondary reward of experience.
The pain... well, that's a personal relativistic thingie, huh?
I'll let each set their own price on experiencing that.

And then that's old-school belief that realations with others... the others, themselves... are always worth our time and energy.
(We all deserve the attention of another human being, no? Or perhaps that's just guilt talking?)
A long way of clarifying that I need more time to think on this. haha.

But a question? "justified by our willingness to obtain"?
Is that another way of giving the road to "the ends justify the means"? "Law of the Jungle"?
I'm seem to doubt it coming from you... could you clarify?
Does or willingness to persue love give us justification to hurt... ourselves and/or other?


well fellas.. I'm a simple country girl, with simple lovin ways.. and mostly a straight forward and simplistic mind... and when you men get your analytical brains in gear wantin to decipher little ole me, or the two of your heads.. I'll just take a seat and enjoy the conversation. Not promising I'll understand half of it, but if either of you would like some coffee while you debate, I'll be more than happy to make a pot for everybody. hehehe

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Fri 02/01/13 02:28 PM

Awosome!


Aahh, Solace.. yes, hi my friend.. thank you for reading my work, I'm glad you liked it too. flowerforyou

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Fri 02/01/13 02:29 PM

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:


Hippie.. 2 thumbs up.. cool.. thanks for reading and enjoying.. flowerforyou

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Fri 02/01/13 02:31 PM



Loved the write but must ask...

If what you seek is something of value, how can a price be placed upon it.

Is it not justified by our willingness to obtain what we seek?

Then again, if we feel the price too high, is it worth it in the beginning or the end?


Just pondering for my own clarity as it seems more about justification rather than desire.

Am I correct?

Now this makes me think... tyvm.drinker

idk if the cost is always worth the reward.
Even if the price seems high at the start,
there's that secondary reward of experience.
The pain... well, that's a personal relativistic thingie, huh?
I'll let each set their own price on experiencing that.

And then that's old-school belief that realations with others... the others, themselves... are always worth our time and energy.
(We all deserve the attention of another human being, no? Or perhaps that's just guilt talking?)
A long way of clarifying that I need more time to think on this. haha.

But a question? "justified by our willingness to obtain"?
Is that another way of giving the road to "the ends justify the means"? "Law of the Jungle"?
I'm seem to doubt it coming from you... could you clarify?
Does or willingness to persue love give us justification to hurt... ourselves and/or other?


"justified by our willingness to obtain"

If we "choose" to seek a prize, a goal, an outcome, let our desire rule over our logic, it can be the law of the jungle, a wish to dominate, or a simple hope, but how often do we let logic consider the cost?

That was my pondering. Whether the piece was about justification (afterthought) or desire (forethought)...a double edged sword at best.


the piece was much simpler than all that.. it was about my pain, my loss, my need to grieve, and the voice I used to do it..

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Fri 02/01/13 02:36 PM




Loved the write but must ask...

If what you seek is something of value, how can a price be placed upon it.

Is it not justified by our willingness to obtain what we seek?

Then again, if we feel the price too high, is it worth it in the beginning or the end?

Just pondering for my own clarity as it seems more about justification rather than desire.

Am I correct?

Now this makes me think... tyvm.drinker

idk if the cost is always worth the reward.
Even if the price seems high at the start,
there's that secondary reward of experience.
The pain... well, that's a personal relativistic thingie, huh?
I'll let each set their own price on experiencing that.

And then that's old-school belief that realations with others... the others, themselves... are always worth our time and energy.
(We all deserve the attention of another human being, no? Or perhaps that's just guilt talking?)
A long way of clarifying that I need more time to think on this. haha.

But a question? "justified by our willingness to obtain"?
Is that another way of giving the road to "the ends justify the means"? "Law of the Jungle"?
I'm seem to doubt it coming from you... could you clarify?
Does or willingness to persue love give us justification to hurt... ourselves and/or other?


"justified by our willingness to obtain"

If we "choose" to seek a prize, a goal, an outcome, let our desire rule over our logic, it can be the law of the jungle, a wish to dominate, or a simple hope, but how often do we let logic consider the cost?

That was my pondering. Whether the piece was about justification (afterthought) or desire (forethought)...a double edged sword at best.

I hate those d*mned swords, haha. (js)
Life seems sharp and pointy enough.

Logic, ha... I've studied beyond my fill.
I prefer my intuition nowadays. And my heart's desires.
(Not that logic doesn't have it's place.)
AR's call to stand... before the fall... 'cause we all belong.

TY for the response.


I agree Teditis... intuition and hearts desires... and yes, we all do belong... all for one, and one for all...
flowerforyou:heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart: flowerforyou

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Fri 02/01/13 03:06 PM
Do I display a "demeamnor"?...
I've spent a lifetime trying to get across to folks that 70% of what I say is without emapthy... My opinion, nothing more.
Virtually, "clinical".

What I do care about is an individul's character... heart and soul.
And my heartfelt thanks to all of you that share so freely in a craft that I'm not so good at.

I must be getting old and lazy, haha.
I guess that I'll have to work on my preceived demaenor.:tongue: laugh

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Fri 02/01/13 03:48 PM
Edited by KiK2me on Fri 02/01/13 03:50 PM
Powerful i like it !
Although i am often weak myself
I do have inner strength
when my life demands i be strong
So i relate to this as well
Nice Ms Athena !
flowerforyou

KiK

Hope you all have a great weekend !

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