Anthony Watts
Watts Up With That?
Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:19 CST



More counterpunch to Obama's recent speech.

Rocket scientists -vs- James Hansen, "in God we trust, all others bring data"

WASHINGTON, Jan. 23, 2013 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ - A group of 20 ex-NASA scientists have concluded that the science used to support the man-made climate change hypothesis is not settled and no convincing physical evidence exists to support catastrophic climate change forecasts.

Beginning in February 2012, the group of scientists calling themselves The Right Climate Stuff (TRCS) team received presentations by scientists representing all sides of the climate change debate and embarked on an in-depth review of a number of climate studies.

Employing a disciplined approach of problem identification and root cause analysis honed from decades of dealing with life threatening safety issues in successfully sending astronauts up through Earth's atmosphere and returning them safely home, the TRCS team concluded that no imminent threat exists from man-made CO2.

TRCS team is comprised of renowned space scientists with formal educational and decades career involvement in engineering, physics, chemistry, astrophysics, geophysics, geology and meteorology. Many of these scientists have Ph.Ds. All TRCS team members are unpaid volunteers who began the project after becoming dismayed with NASA's increasing advocacy for alarmist man-made climate change theories.

H. Leighton Steward, chairman of CO2isGreen.org as well as the educational non-profit, PlantsNeedCO2.org, makes the following comments regarding the TRCS posting, which can be found at www.therightclimatestuff.com:

1. The science of what is causing global climate change or warming is clearly not settled and never has been.
2. There is no convincing physical evidence to support the man-made climate change hypothesis. The standard test of a hypothesis is whether it is supported by real observations, which seems to have been ignored by climate alarmists.
3. Claims made by proponents of catastrophic man-made warming are dominantly supported by non-validated computer models and the output of these models should not be relied upon by policy-makers. Some TRCS team members have been making critical decisions using complex computer models for decades.
4. There is no immediate threat of catastrophic global warming even if some warming occurs. The sea level is not going to suddenly begin a steep acceleration of its 18,000-year rate of rise. Global sea level rise is not currently accelerating despite what climate change alarmists claim.
5. The U.S. Government has overreacted to a possible catastrophic warming. The probable negative impacts to the economy, jobs and an increased cost of food, transportation and utilities will be severe and hurt the poor and middle class the most. Real experiments show that Earth's habitats and ecosystems could be damaged if CO2 levels are actually reduced. Environmentalists have been grossly misled to believe CO2 is a pollutant.
6. Empirical evidence shows that Earth is currently "greening" significantly due to additional CO2 and a modest warming.
7. Money saved by abandoning a premature rush to lower CO2 emissions could be better spent by continuing research on alternative energies that are not currently competitive or reliable.

Dr. Harold Doiron, team leader for TRCS and former NASA scientist, along with H. Leighton Steward, will be participating on The Hard Question panel debate on climate change tonight at 5:00pm at The National Press Club, Holeman Lounge (13th floor) , 529 14th Street, Washington, DC.

More information can be found at www.CO2isGreen.org.

Supporting scientific information can be found at www.PlantsNeedCO2.org.

You better check the funding on this one.

lol...funding checks on all these "scientists" would be nice...

This smells like ExxonMobil.

won't stop Obama from establishing another Slushfund!

i always thought cars produced carbon monoxide, not carbon dioxide...

I think it is being converted in the "Catalytic Converter" into Carbon Dioxide!
But I suppose if your Engine is tuned somewhat OK,most will be CO2 anyway!

Silly non-mechanics, catalytic perverters are for the reduction of Nitrogen gasses like NO and NO2! they have NOTHING to do with CO and CO2, that is supposedly what the EGR valve is supposed to do. Exhaust Gas Recirculation puts exhaust fumes back into the engine's combustion cycle.

FRANKLY MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING IS A MYTH! Until I can see real hard supporting evidence I chock up the warming trend to NATURAL PHENOMENON OF THE EARTH WE HAVE YET TO UNDERSTAND!

I thought global warming was caused by cow farts?

No, Al Gore will not shut the hell up!

glad we solved that!
Thought I might have been off on that!

You say a team of 20 "ex-" NASA scientists... Did they get fired because they sucked at math and physics? I figure I'd better ask.

Nah.... govt employees always retire early on extravagant pensions with nothing but time on their hands and the preconceived notion of knowing everything... some do actually have merit, but it's the sorting them out that is frustrating.

One thing for sure.... if Gore says it's true, it's NOT!

I didnt need to go any further than this..


To know its tripe.

Even a broke clock is right twice a day . . . in Gores case, only once, and full of hyperbole on severity, but none the less the science behind the core concepts are good.

You simply cannot dump exponentially greater and greater quantities of greenhouse gasses into an atmosphere without creating a very warm greenhouse like atmosphere.

That's your belief..... now you have only to prove what scientists can't..... good luck with that!

The real problem is pollution and corporate dumping of toxic wastes in our rivers, streams and oceans, and venting of pollutants into the air. Global warming is simply the shade pulled over the public eye in a hope of diverting the issue and creating a new tax initiative.

Cap and trade (if passed) under govt regulation would tax the air we breathe under a carbon tax..... we already pay for water as water bottling corporations drain our lakes and streams to mud holes in the name of profits.

Check youtube for the movie "Flow".... and learn a valuable bit of info on that one issue alone!

The movie.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3RL0vbWZLg

damn cows...

also, obama and the dems just about all but disbanded NASA for private space companies now...

After seeing the data on the greenhouse effect on Venus, one would think that 20 NASA scientists would at least be cautious regarding increasing Co2 levels.

No, Billy is right. You can't dump billions of tons of greenhouse gas into the atmosphere without creating a greenhouse effect. It isn't an opinion. It is scientific fact. The whole "warming is just an opinion" bs is misdirection to hide the truth... which can't be hidden any more. The Earth is radically heating up and man is the cause. The final effects are unknown but they won't be good for most of the world.

Gore, being an azz, makes it worse. The "carbon credit" scheme won't do anything to help the Earth. It will just make a few a lot of money.

It's them Thingies!