Topic: 9/11 Conspiracy Solved: Names, Connections, & Details Expose
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Fri 02/15/13 10:23 AM

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Fri 02/15/13 10:32 AM
Imagine how this planning session between Bush, Rummy and Cheney must have gone:



BUSH: So, what's the plan again?

CHENEY: Well, we need to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. So what we've decided to do is crash a whole bunch of remote-controlled planes into Wall Street and the Pentagon, say they're real hijacked commercial planes, and blame it on the towelheads; then we'll just blow up the buildings ourselves to make sure they actually fall down.

RUMSFELD: Right! And we'll make sure that some of the hijackers are agents of Saddam Hussein! That way we'll have no problem getting the public to buy the invasion.

CHENEY: No, Don, we won't.

RUMSFELD: We won't?

CHENEY: No, that's too obvious. We'll make the hijackers al-Qaeda and then just imply a connection to Iraq.

RUMSFELD: But if we're just making up the whole thing, why not just put Saddam's fingerprints on the attack?

CHENEY: (sighing) It just has to be this way, Don. Ups the ante, as it were. This way, we're not insulated if things go wrong in Iraq. Gives us incentive to get the invasion right the first time around.

BUSH: I'm a total idiot who can barely read, so I'll buy that. But I've got a question. Why do we need to crash planes into the Towers at all? Since everyone knows terrorists already tried to blow up that building complex from the ground up once, why don't we just blow it up like we plan to anyway, and blame the bombs on the terrorists?

RUMSFELD: Mr. President, you don't understand. It's much better to sneak into the buildings ourselves in the days before the attacks, plant the bombs, and then make it look like it was exploding planes that brought the buildings down. That way, we involve more people in the plot, stand a much greater chance of being exposed, and needlessly complicate everything!

CHENEY: Of course, just toppling the Twin Towers will never be enough. No one would give us the war mandate we need if we just blow up the Towers. Clearly, we also need to shoot a missile at a small corner of the Pentagon to create a mightily underpublicized additional symbol of international terrorism -- and then, obviously, we need to fake a plane crash in the middle of nowhere somewhere in rural Pennsylvania.

RUMSFELD: Yeah, it goes without saying that the level of public outrage will not be sufficient without that crash in the middle of ****ing nowhere.

CHENEY: And the Pentagon crash -- we'll have to do it in broad daylight and say it was a plane, even though it'll really be a cruise missile.

BUSH: Wait, why do we have to use a missile?

CHENEY: Because it's much easier to shoot a missile and say it was a plane. It's not easy to steer a real passenger plane into the Pentagon. Planes are hard to come by.

BUSH: But aren't we using two planes for the Twin Towers?

CHENEY: Mr. President, you're missing the point. With the Pentagon, we use a missile, and say it was a plane.

BUSH: Right, but I'm saying, why don't we just use a plane and say it was a plane? We'll be doing that with the Twin Towers, right?

CHENEY: Right, but in this case, we use a missile. (Throws hands up in frustration) Don, can you help me out here?

RUMSFELD: Mr. President, in Washington, we use a missile because it's sneakier that way. Using an actual plane would be too obvious, even though we'll be doing just that in New York.

BUSH: Oh, okay.

RUMSFELD: The other good thing about saying that it was a passenger jet is that that way, we have to invent a few hundred fictional victims and account for a nonexistent missing crew and plane. It's always better when you leave more cover story to invent, more legwork to do, and more possible holes to investigate. Doubt, legwork, and possible exposure -- you can't pull off any good conspiracy without them.

BUSH: You guys are brilliant! Because if there's one thing about Americans -- they won't let a president go to war without a damn good reason. How could we ever get the media, the corporate world, and our military to endorse an invasion of a secular Iraqi state unless we faked an attack against New York at the hands of a bunch of Saudi religious radicals? Why, they'd never buy it. Look at how hard it was to get us into Vietnam, Iraq the last time, Kosovo?

CHENEY: Like pulling teeth!

RUMSFELD: Well, I'm sold on the idea. Let's call the Joint Chiefs, the FAA, the New York and Washington DC fire departments, Rudy Giuliani, all three networks, the families of a thousand fictional airline victims, MI-5, the FBI, FEMA, the NYPD, Larry Eagleburger, Osama bin Laden, Noam Chomsky and the fifty thousand other people we'll need to pull this off. There isn't a moment to lose!

BUSH: Don't forget to call all of those Wall Street hotshots who donated $100 million to our last campaign. They'll be thrilled to know that we'll be targeting them for execution as part of our thousand-tentacled modern-day bonehead Reichstag scheme! After all, if we're going to make martyrs -- why not make them out of our campaign paymasters? ****, didn't the Merrill Lynch guys say they needed a refurbishing in their New York offices?

RUMSFELD: Oh, they'll get a refurbishing, all right. Just in time for the "Big Wedding"!

ALL THREE: (cackling) Mwah-hah-hah!


The Idiocy Behind the '9/11 Truth' Movement
Why the "9/11 Truth" movement makes the Left Behind series read like Shakespeare.

http://www.alternet.org/story/42181?page=3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0Wiz1elwHU

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Fri 02/15/13 11:51 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 02/15/13 11:54 AM







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Fri 02/15/13 11:58 AM

Imagine how this planning session between Bush, Rummy and Cheney must have gone:



BUSH: So, what's the plan again?

CHENEY: Well, we need to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. So what we've decided to do is crash a whole bunch of remote-controlled planes into Wall Street and the Pentagon, say they're real hijacked commercial planes, and blame it on the towelheads; then we'll just blow up the buildings ourselves to make sure they actually fall down.

RUMSFELD: Right! And we'll make sure that some of the hijackers are agents of Saddam Hussein! That way we'll have no problem getting the public to buy the invasion.

CHENEY: No, Don, we won't.

RUMSFELD: We won't?

CHENEY: No, that's too obvious. We'll make the hijackers al-Qaeda and then just imply a connection to Iraq.

RUMSFELD: But if we're just making up the whole thing, why not just put Saddam's fingerprints on the attack?

CHENEY: (sighing) It just has to be this way, Don. Ups the ante, as it were. This way, we're not insulated if things go wrong in Iraq. Gives us incentive to get the invasion right the first time around.

BUSH: I'm a total idiot who can barely read, so I'll buy that. But I've got a question. Why do we need to crash planes into the Towers at all? Since everyone knows terrorists already tried to blow up that building complex from the ground up once, why don't we just blow it up like we plan to anyway, and blame the bombs on the terrorists?

RUMSFELD: Mr. President, you don't understand. It's much better to sneak into the buildings ourselves in the days before the attacks, plant the bombs, and then make it look like it was exploding planes that brought the buildings down. That way, we involve more people in the plot, stand a much greater chance of being exposed, and needlessly complicate everything!

CHENEY: Of course, just toppling the Twin Towers will never be enough. No one would give us the war mandate we need if we just blow up the Towers. Clearly, we also need to shoot a missile at a small corner of the Pentagon to create a mightily underpublicized additional symbol of international terrorism -- and then, obviously, we need to fake a plane crash in the middle of nowhere somewhere in rural Pennsylvania.

RUMSFELD: Yeah, it goes without saying that the level of public outrage will not be sufficient without that crash in the middle of ****ing nowhere.

CHENEY: And the Pentagon crash -- we'll have to do it in broad daylight and say it was a plane, even though it'll really be a cruise missile.

BUSH: Wait, why do we have to use a missile?

CHENEY: Because it's much easier to shoot a missile and say it was a plane. It's not easy to steer a real passenger plane into the Pentagon. Planes are hard to come by.

BUSH: But aren't we using two planes for the Twin Towers?

CHENEY: Mr. President, you're missing the point. With the Pentagon, we use a missile, and say it was a plane.

BUSH: Right, but I'm saying, why don't we just use a plane and say it was a plane? We'll be doing that with the Twin Towers, right?

CHENEY: Right, but in this case, we use a missile. (Throws hands up in frustration) Don, can you help me out here?

RUMSFELD: Mr. President, in Washington, we use a missile because it's sneakier that way. Using an actual plane would be too obvious, even though we'll be doing just that in New York.

BUSH: Oh, okay.

RUMSFELD: The other good thing about saying that it was a passenger jet is that that way, we have to invent a few hundred fictional victims and account for a nonexistent missing crew and plane. It's always better when you leave more cover story to invent, more legwork to do, and more possible holes to investigate. Doubt, legwork, and possible exposure -- you can't pull off any good conspiracy without them.

BUSH: You guys are brilliant! Because if there's one thing about Americans -- they won't let a president go to war without a damn good reason. How could we ever get the media, the corporate world, and our military to endorse an invasion of a secular Iraqi state unless we faked an attack against New York at the hands of a bunch of Saudi religious radicals? Why, they'd never buy it. Look at how hard it was to get us into Vietnam, Iraq the last time, Kosovo?

CHENEY: Like pulling teeth!

RUMSFELD: Well, I'm sold on the idea. Let's call the Joint Chiefs, the FAA, the New York and Washington DC fire departments, Rudy Giuliani, all three networks, the families of a thousand fictional airline victims, MI-5, the FBI, FEMA, the NYPD, Larry Eagleburger, Osama bin Laden, Noam Chomsky and the fifty thousand other people we'll need to pull this off. There isn't a moment to lose!

BUSH: Don't forget to call all of those Wall Street hotshots who donated $100 million to our last campaign. They'll be thrilled to know that we'll be targeting them for execution as part of our thousand-tentacled modern-day bonehead Reichstag scheme! After all, if we're going to make martyrs -- why not make them out of our campaign paymasters? ****, didn't the Merrill Lynch guys say they needed a refurbishing in their New York offices?

RUMSFELD: Oh, they'll get a refurbishing, all right. Just in time for the "Big Wedding"!

ALL THREE: (cackling) Mwah-hah-hah!


The Idiocy Behind the '9/11 Truth' Movement
Why the "9/11 Truth" movement makes the Left Behind series read like Shakespeare.

http://www.alternet.org/story/42181?page=3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0Wiz1elwHU


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Fri 02/15/13 12:18 PM
On 9/11, Islamic terrorists got inside some commercial aircraft and commenced with the hijacking job that they had planned.

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Fri 02/15/13 01:32 PM
After reading through all 9 pages, no one even tried to answer this one question...

How is it even remotely possible that *every level* of *every branch* of national security across the USA had system wide catastrophic failures during the same time on the same day (9/11)?




This is not asking "who did it" or "why did it happen" so please do not bring these two points up. Whoever does go there are obviously trolling by deflecting and redirecting away from the question at hand.


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Fri 02/15/13 02:04 PM

After reading through all 9 pages, no one even tried to answer this one question...

How is it even remotely possible that *every level* of *every branch* of national security across the USA had system wide catastrophic failures during the same time on the same day (9/11)?




This is not asking "who did it" or "why did it happen" so please do not bring these two points up. Whoever does go there are obviously trolling by deflecting and redirecting away from the question at hand.




You question, is only one among thousands of questions that have no answer.


mightymoe's photo
Fri 02/15/13 02:08 PM

After reading through all 9 pages, no one even tried to answer this one question...

How is it even remotely possible that *every level* of *every branch* of national security across the USA had system wide catastrophic failures during the same time on the same day (9/11)?




This is not asking "who did it" or "why did it happen" so please do not bring these two points up. Whoever does go there are obviously trolling by deflecting and redirecting away from the question at hand.




they didn't, more CT'er nonsense...

mightymoe's photo
Fri 02/15/13 02:11 PM


After reading through all 9 pages, no one even tried to answer this one question...

How is it even remotely possible that *every level* of *every branch* of national security across the USA had system wide catastrophic failures during the same time on the same day (9/11)?




This is not asking "who did it" or "why did it happen" so please do not bring these two points up. Whoever does go there are obviously trolling by deflecting and redirecting away from the question at hand.




You question, is only one among thousands of questions that have no answer.




i think a better question is where did CT'ers come up with nonsense at? what "system wide catastrophic failures" happened on 9-11?

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Fri 02/15/13 02:28 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 02/15/13 02:31 PM



After reading through all 9 pages, no one even tried to answer this one question...

How is it even remotely possible that *every level* of *every branch* of national security across the USA had system wide catastrophic failures during the same time on the same day (9/11)?




This is not asking "who did it" or "why did it happen" so please do not bring these two points up. Whoever does go there are obviously trolling by deflecting and redirecting away from the question at hand.




You question, is only one among thousands of questions that have no answer.




i think a better question is where did CT'ers come up with nonsense at? what "system wide catastrophic failures" happened on 9-11?


That is a very general and very expansive non specific question which falsely implies that all Conspiracy theories are "nonsense." And we are talking about unanswered questions, not theories.

It is not "nonsense" to ASK QUESTIONS.

It is nonsense not to be able to get a strait and sensible believable answer.

It looks like to me, you are just another clueless member of the mob who spend their time ridiculing anyone who speaks out our dares to question the official propaganda.

Shame.




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Fri 02/15/13 02:35 PM




After reading through all 9 pages, no one even tried to answer this one question...

How is it even remotely possible that *every level* of *every branch* of national security across the USA had system wide catastrophic failures during the same time on the same day (9/11)?




This is not asking "who did it" or "why did it happen" so please do not bring these two points up. Whoever does go there are obviously trolling by deflecting and redirecting away from the question at hand.




You question, is only one among thousands of questions that have no answer.




i think a better question is where did CT'ers come up with nonsense at? what "system wide catastrophic failures" happened on 9-11?


That is a very general and very expansive non specific question which falsely implies that all Conspiracy theories are "nonsense." And we are talking about unanswered questions, not theories.

It is not "nonsense" to ASK QUESTIONS.

It is nonsense not to be able to get a strait and sensible believable answer.

It looks like to me, you are just another clueless member of the mob who spend their time ridiculing anyone who speaks out our dares to question the official propaganda.

Shame.






if people are going to post absolute lies, then they need to be called out on them... and i see instead of answering my question, you want to divert the subject again...


so, again, what "system wide catastrophic failures" happened?

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Fri 02/15/13 02:39 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 02/15/13 02:42 PM





i think a better question is where did CT'ers come up with nonsense at? what "system wide catastrophic failures" happened on 9-11?


That is a very general and very expansive non specific question which falsely implies that all Conspiracy theories are "nonsense." And we are talking about unanswered questions, not theories.

It is not "nonsense" to ASK QUESTIONS.

It is nonsense not to be able to get a strait and sensible believable answer.

It looks like to me, you are just another clueless member of the mob who spend their time ridiculing anyone who speaks out our dares to question the official propaganda.

Shame.






if people are going to post absolute lies, then they need to be called out on them... and i see instead of answering my question, you want to divert the subject again...



That is why there are so many conspiracy theories. The Major Media is spewing absolute LIES and they need to be called out on them.



so, again, what "system wide catastrophic failures" happened?


We spend billions and billions on "defense." What the hell happened?

We failed. All of our "so called defense" spending was apparently total failures in protecting New York City, and the Pentagon from an enemy attack by cave dwellers.

THAT SYSTEM WIDE FAILURE.

I am surprised you would even ask such a question.



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Fri 02/15/13 02:43 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Fri 02/15/13 02:45 PM







i think a better question is where did CT'ers come up with nonsense at? what "system wide catastrophic failures" happened on 9-11?


That is a very general and very expansive non specific question which falsely implies that all Conspiracy theories are "nonsense." And we are talking about unanswered questions, not theories.

It is not "nonsense" to ASK QUESTIONS.

It is nonsense not to be able to get a strait and sensible believable answer.

It looks like to me, you are just another clueless member of the mob who spend their time ridiculing anyone who speaks out our dares to question the official propaganda.

Shame.






if people are going to post absolute lies, then they need to be called out on them... and i see instead of answering my question, you want to divert the subject again...



That is why there are so many conspiracy theories. The Major Media is spewing absolute LIES and they need to be called out on them.



so, again, what "system wide catastrophic failures" happened?


We spend billions and billions on "defense." What the hell happened?

We failed. All if our "so called defense" spending was apparently total failures in protecting New York City, and the Pentagon from an enemy attack by cave dwellers.

THAT SYSTEM WIDE FAILURE.

I am surprised you would even ask such a question.




thats your answer? weak, at best...there was no "system wide catastrophic failures" at all, made up fantasy...


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Fri 02/15/13 02:51 PM
thats your answer? weak, at best...there was no "system wide catastrophic failures" at all, made up fantasy...


Then you are not paying attention. ..at all.

The main excuse for the screw ups on 9-11 was inept blunders and stupid mis-communications. They preferred to look stupid rather than admit that there was an intentional cover-up. So you have to pick one.







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Fri 02/15/13 03:08 PM

thats your answer? weak, at best...there was no "system wide catastrophic failures" at all, made up fantasy...


Then you are not paying attention. ..at all.

The main excuse for the screw ups on 9-11 was inept blunders and stupid mis-communications. They preferred to look stupid rather than admit that there was an intentional cover-up. So you have to pick one.








huh... my theory: 19 pissed of muslims crashed 4 planes into various buildings, killing 3000 people

your theory:
bush
cabal
alien overlords
our government
bankers
secret weapons projects
missiles, not planes
balls, not planes
thermite
super thermite
super duper thermite
thermite paint
the Jews
insurance scam
.... should i go on?

oh, and now,

system wide catastrophic failures


....
laugh laugh laugh
keep them coming, it gets better all the time





mightymoe's photo
Fri 02/15/13 03:10 PM




After reading through all 9 pages, no one even tried to answer this one question...

How is it even remotely possible that *every level* of *every branch* of national security across the USA had system wide catastrophic failures during the same time on the same day (9/11)?




This is not asking "who did it" or "why did it happen" so please do not bring these two points up. Whoever does go there are obviously trolling by deflecting and redirecting away from the question at hand.




You question, is only one among thousands of questions that have no answer.




i think a better question is where did CT'ers come up with nonsense at? what "system wide catastrophic failures" happened on 9-11?


That is a very general and very expansive non specific question which falsely implies that all Conspiracy theories are "nonsense." And we are talking about unanswered questions, not theories.

It is not "nonsense" to ASK QUESTIONS.

It is nonsense not to be able to get a strait and sensible believable answer.

It looks like to me, you are just another clueless member of the mob who spend their time ridiculing anyone who speaks out our dares to question the official propaganda.

Shame.






whatever gets you to sleep at nite, darlin


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Fri 02/15/13 03:40 PM

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Fri 02/15/13 04:27 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 02/15/13 04:29 PM


thats your answer? weak, at best...there was no "system wide catastrophic failures" at all, made up fantasy...


Then you are not paying attention. ..at all.

The main excuse for the screw ups on 9-11 was inept blunders and stupid mis-communications. They preferred to look stupid rather than admit that there was an intentional cover-up. So you have to pick one.








huh... my theory: 19 pissed of muslims crashed 4 planes into various buildings, killing 3000 people



That is NOT YOUR theory. That is the concocted fabrication you have been sold....by the powers that be and their media whores.... and you bought it lock, stock and barrel.

You don't have a theory. You just believe what your masters tell you.

It looks like to me, you are just another clueless member of the mob mentality who spend their time ridiculing anyone who speaks out or dares to question the fabricated media whore's and the official propaganda.




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Fri 02/15/13 04:40 PM

In 2003, Former Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta testified before the 9/11 Commission:

Mineta: "During the time that the airplane was coming into the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President...the plane is 50 miles out...the plane is 30 miles out....and when it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the vice president "do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said "Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!??"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGI5BmNd7AE
What more proof do the cowardly subservient rubes need than to know Mr Mineta was under oath and the traitors Bush and Cheney both refused to go under oath.......... Hmmm I am no rocket scientist but...........

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Fri 02/15/13 04:43 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 02/15/13 04:48 PM


In 2003, Former Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta testified before the 9/11 Commission:

Mineta: "During the time that the airplane was coming into the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President...the plane is 50 miles out...the plane is 30 miles out....and when it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the vice president "do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said "Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!??"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGI5BmNd7AE
What more proof do the cowardly subservient rubes need than to know Mr Mineta was under oath and the traitors Bush and Cheney both refused to go under oath.......... Hmmm I am no rocket scientist but...........


Yep and HE was under oath. Which means, that if he lied, he could be sent to PRISON.

Has he been sent to prison? Has he been charged?

Well what orders was he talking about... were they stand down orders not to fire on the plane approaching the pentagon? If so, why not?

I think because the plane that was approaching the pentagon is probably not what actually hit the pentagon.

It just flew on past.

Or else, they just decided to let the plane hit the pentagon for some reason.

Either way.... what's up with that?

They knew it was coming, they were tracking it, they let it hit its target.

That is compliance.