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Topic: The Founding Fathers Knew!
JustDukkyMkII's photo
Wed 01/02/13 11:18 AM



The constitution has been destroyed quite some time ago.
Constitutional law does not exist in the corporate court system we have installed today.

But they still will play hell disarming American citizens.

Since all of this gun control crap, more people than ever are buying guns.







A very astute observation, but technically speaking, they didn't destroy the constitution...What they did was cover it over with a commercial/corporate "curtain" to make everything appear as it was while hiding the crooked "wizard" behind it.

The movie "The Matrix" is a very appropriate allegory...Nothing is as it appears to the undiscerning eye. It looks normal, however it is anything but.

The good news is that the constitution still exists...the bad news is that it is hidden behind a veil of legalistic deceptions based on the citizen "voluntarily" signing himself into servitude to the "government" he should properly be governing.

American citizens were once sovereigns...now they are subjects...Knowledge of this fact can once again free the American people from tyranny.



I consider myself sovereign. The reason is because, like them, I can disregard all contracts made with them because that is what they have done to us. Fair is fair. If they can lie to us, then we can lie to them. If they can break contracts, forge papers, lie, steal, then they should not expect their subjects to submit to their so called "legal" tyranny. They are the criminals, I have no reason to play it strait with them. On moral grounds, I object to tyranny. The higher up you go in this system the closer you get to pure evil.







I sympathize, but I'll let you in on a little "secret"…

Even the bad guys are bound by the law and it is wrong to abuse the law by fighting fire with fire…use water….Fight crime with law.

That they are criminals hiding behind what everyone thinks is "law", there is no doubt, but real law and justice will prevail I assure you. The wheels of justice may turn slowly, but they DO turn, and they are a juggernaut that no force on earth can stop!

It was the abuse of law that gave rise to their power structure and it will be the justice of law that will topple it.

They oppressed us with "law", and it is by true law that they will be defeated.

Take my word for it….learn how the weapon has been used against you and use it on them…If you are SKILLED, HONOURABLE, honest and fair, you will get justice.

STUDY real law and then learn the legalistic trickery used to deceive you. Real law is the supreme weapon, made all the more efficient when you learn their "bag of tricks."

no photo
Wed 01/02/13 11:43 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 01/02/13 11:46 AM




The constitution has been destroyed quite some time ago.
Constitutional law does not exist in the corporate court system we have installed today.

But they still will play hell disarming American citizens.

Since all of this gun control crap, more people than ever are buying guns.







A very astute observation, but technically speaking, they didn't destroy the constitution...What they did was cover it over with a commercial/corporate "curtain" to make everything appear as it was while hiding the crooked "wizard" behind it.

The movie "The Matrix" is a very appropriate allegory...Nothing is as it appears to the undiscerning eye. It looks normal, however it is anything but.

The good news is that the constitution still exists...the bad news is that it is hidden behind a veil of legalistic deceptions based on the citizen "voluntarily" signing himself into servitude to the "government" he should properly be governing.

American citizens were once sovereigns...now they are subjects...Knowledge of this fact can once again free the American people from tyranny.



I consider myself sovereign. The reason is because, like them, I can disregard all contracts made with them because that is what they have done to us. Fair is fair. If they can lie to us, then we can lie to them. If they can break contracts, forge papers, lie, steal, then they should not expect their subjects to submit to their so called "legal" tyranny. They are the criminals, I have no reason to play it strait with them. On moral grounds, I object to tyranny. The higher up you go in this system the closer you get to pure evil.







I sympathize, but I'll let you in on a little "secret"…

Even the bad guys are bound by the law and it is wrong to abuse the law by fighting fire with fire…use water….Fight crime with law.

That they are criminals hiding behind what everyone thinks is "law", there is no doubt, but real law and justice will prevail I assure you. The wheels of justice may turn slowly, but they DO turn, and they are a juggernaut that no force on earth can stop!

It was the abuse of law that gave rise to their power structure and it will be the justice of law that will topple it.

They oppressed us with "law", and it is by true law that they will be defeated.

Take my word for it….learn how the weapon has been used against you and use it on them…If you are SKILLED, HONOURABLE, honest and fair, you will get justice.

STUDY real law and then learn the legalistic trickery used to deceive you. Real law is the supreme weapon, made all the more efficient when you learn their "bag of tricks."



I agree. If you don't know a bit about their law and your own rights, you will not do well.

Unfortunately, you can lose even when you are right and they are wrong. Just know that you are dealing with the beast and most of the players have no clue what is going on and are basically pawns.

I still consider myself sovereign. And I know that they are attempting to make that term into a dirty word, but I am a human being, and I am free.








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Wed 01/02/13 11:45 AM
Even the bad guys are bound by the law and it is wrong to abuse the law by fighting fire with fire…use water….Fight crime with law.


Does not always work at the highest levels at the top.

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Wed 01/02/13 11:50 AM

Even the bad guys are bound by the law and it is wrong to abuse the law by fighting fire with fire…use water….Fight crime with law.


Does not always work at the highest levels at the top.


Doesn't have to...At that level it will be sufficient to starve the parasite.

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Wed 01/02/13 12:32 PM
the founding fathers knew,,,

that they were as flawed and imperfect and subject to errors and mistakes as anyone else,,,

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Wed 01/02/13 12:42 PM

the founding fathers knew,,,

that they were as flawed and imperfect and subject to errors and mistakes as anyone else,,,


...which is why they tried to create a nation ruled by law instead of fallible men.

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/02/13 12:44 PM


the founding fathers knew,,,

that they were as flawed and imperfect and subject to errors and mistakes as anyone else,,,


...which is why they tried to create a nation ruled by law instead of fallible men.


ruled 'less' by fallible men than by rule of law

because rule of law was decided upon by 'fallible men'

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Wed 01/02/13 12:51 PM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Wed 01/02/13 12:51 PM



the founding fathers knew,,,

that they were as flawed and imperfect and subject to errors and mistakes as anyone else,,,


...which is why they tried to create a nation ruled by law instead of fallible men.


ruled 'less' by fallible men than by rule of law

because rule of law was decided upon by 'fallible men'


FALSE!

It was not their intention to have ANY men RULR to ANY extent...

All men are EQUAL under the law, remember?

The rule of law is just that. Law is not "created" by men, but only interpreted by them (often incorrectly). A good example is human slavery...It was ALWAYS unlawful, but until recently, men interpreted the law wrong because slaves were (erroneously) not considered men, but property.

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