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Topic: Here 'they come!
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Sat 12/22/12 05:05 AM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sat 12/22/12 05:07 AM
In the wake of the terrible mass shooting in Newtown CT comes the inevitible wave of conspiracy theories. All of these are just plain stupid and it doesn't require much thought to see through them. However, some of this stuff is just plain disturbed.

Here we have an excellent example of a complete lack of any rational thought:

Newtown School Shooting Story Already being Changed By The Media To Eliminate Eyewitness Reports Of A Second Shooter

December 14th, 2012

(NaturalNews) – The national media is ablaze today with coverage of the tragic elementary school shooting in Newtown, CT, where 27 people have reportedly been killed, including 18 children.

As always, when violent shootings take place, honest journalists are forced to ask the question: “Does this fit the pattern of other staged shootings?”

One of the most important red flags of a staged shooting is a second gunman, indicating the shooting was coordinated and planned. There are often mind control elements at work in many of these shootings. The Aurora “Batman” shooter James Holmes, for example, was a graduate student actually working on mind control technologies funded by the U.S. government. There were also chemical mind control elements linked to Jared Lee Loughner, the shooter of Congresswomen Giffords in Arizona in 2011.

According to multiple eyewitness reports from Aurora, Colorado, including at least one caught on camera by mainstream media news reports in Colorado, James Holmes did not operate alone. There was a second shooter involved. But the media quickly eliminated any mention of a second shooter from its coverage, resorting to the typical cover story of a “lone gunman.”

Today, the exact same thing is happening with the Newton, CT school shooting.

Eyewitness reports of a second shooter now being “scrubbed” from the news

As the story of this shooting was first breaking, the news was reporting a second gunman.

FoxNews reported that this second gunman was “led out of the woods by officers” and then questioned. The original source of this report was the Connecticut Post.

A local CBS affiliate was also reporting the existence of a second gunman and said “Police believe there may be a second gunman and are looking for a red or maroon van with its back window blown out…”

ABC News also originally reported, “A second gunman is apparently at large. Car-to-car searches are underway.”

A local CT CBS affiliate was also reporting, “CBS News reports that a potential second shooter is in custody and that SWAT is now investigating the home of the suspect. A witness tells WFSB-TV that a second man was taken out of the woods in handcuffs wearing a black jacket and camouflage pants and telling parents on the scene, ‘I did not do it.’”

But the more recent stories being put out by the media are scrubbing any mention of a second gunman and going with the “lone gunman” explanation, which holds about as much water as the “lone gunman” explanation of the JFK assassination. (I love this bit)

“A lone gunman killed 27 people at an elementary school here, including 18 children, in a terrifying early Friday morning shooting spree,” reports USA Today. It makes no mention whatsoever of a second gunman.

NBC News is also now chiming in with the “lone gunman” version of the story, eliminating any mention of a second gunman from its coverage of the tragic event.

Another story authored by NBC News carries the title, “26 dead after lone gunman assaults Connecticut elementary school.” Once again, no mention of a second gunman as reported by eyewitnesses.

When key elements of the story keeps changing, something is fishy

Journalists are trained to ask questions, and one of the questions I have right now is: Why was the second gunman suddenly dropped from media coverage after the first few hours of this story developing?

And why is there always a second gunman in these recent mass shootings that seem to be engineered to maximize emotional shock value due to the sheer horror of all the innocent deaths?

This story is continuing to develop, and we’ll keep asking questions here on Natural News. Our hearts and prayers go out to the children and families impacted by this violent tragedy. Given the terrible loss of life that has taken place here, shouldn’t we all seek to get to the bottom of WHY these shootings all seem to fit a common pattern of multiple mind-controlled shooters followed by an almost immediate media cover-up of the facts?

For the sake of those children who were killed today, I want to get to the bottom of this and expose the REAL story, for the purpose of stopping this violence from targeting yet more innocents in the future.



Source: Natural News (This is a BIG hint!)

Of course, the details 'reported' in this story were quickly proven to be erroneous, but that didn't stop fools following it up.

http://dprogram.net/2012/12/14/newtown-school-shooting-story-already-being-changed-by-the-media-to-eliminate-eyewitness-reports-of-a-second-shooter/


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Sat 12/22/12 05:15 AM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sat 12/22/12 05:16 AM
This link takes one to the most bizarre thread I've ever encoutered. There is something rather disturbing about the individuals that propose some of the most insane ideas ever to be presented on the internet.

Warning: There is 11 pages of this rubbish but it is worth reading in order to become acquainted with some of the specimens allowed to walk the streets.


SHOOTING Already EXPOSED as False Flag PSYOP.....POST INFO HERE!!

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2080900/pg1?regp=bm9fMTM1NjE4MTcxMw==

Note some of the insane attempts to link this tragedy to the Aurora shooting.

This video speaks for itself:

http://youtu.be/gvvW8Yb51jE

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Sat 12/22/12 05:26 AM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sat 12/22/12 05:48 AM
Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting is a False Flag Black Op Push for Gun Confiscation

Posted on December 15, 2012 by Henry Shivley

On Friday, December 14, 2012, Bill of Rights Day as proclaimed by Barack Obama, the false flag school shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut was perpetrated to launch another US communist gun confiscation program. So what actually happened at that elementary school? Well, just like the Clackamas, Oregon mall false flag, the Aurora, Colorado theater false flag, the Tucson, Arizona false flag, and the 911 false flag we will never know as these are all internal black ops, which are designed to leave the population in a permanent state of confusion.

In this day of high tech surveillance with government controlled cameras looking at us and documenting our actions everywhere we go, there always seems to be a breakdown when it comes to government sponsored terrorism.

A source outside the mainstream reported on The Word From the Trenches – December 14, 2012 that a message came over her police scanner that stated in reference to Sandy Hook Elementary School, “Tell them the cameras are not working”. Tell who, the Homeland Security Agents running the black op?

An initial report from an eyewitness inside the principal’s office said that the principal, vice principal, and the school psychologist went out into the hall upon hearing gun shots. Three went out and only one came back, who was the vice-principal who had been shot in the leg. The eye witness repeated the assertion that three went out and only one came back in, declaring that the principal and psychologist had been shot to death out in the hall and that is where their bodies were.

The official account we are now hearing is saying the shooter crashed into the principal’s office and killed four people therein, including the principal and the psychologist. This is no small discrepancy considering the eye witness who gave the original account to the mainstream media said she was in a meeting in the office when the shooting occurred.

This is a black op.

Original reports said a maroon van with the back window shot out left the scene with a suspected second shooter therein. It was later reported that the van had been found in the nearby town and that the driver/second shooter had been arrested.

Also around the same time it was reported that another individual wearing camouflage fatigue pants who had ran into the woods had also been arrested. And then, in the blink of an eye, these two arrests became a single arrest of the fellow who had ran into the woods who was declared to be an innocent bystander fleeing the shooting and the maroon van and the third suspect disappeared from reality, just like John Doe number two at the Oklahoma City bombing.

It is now being declared that all the bullets fired were fired inside the school. So who shot the back window out of that maroon van and what became of the van and the fellow who was driving it and was arrested in the nearby town? Don’t look at the man behind the curtain.

This is a black op.

Original reports said the shooter was wearing camouflage pants and a utility vest and then it was black fatigues and an armored vest. Today the two accounts which would indicate two shooters have been morphed into the lone wolf dressed in “black camouflage”.

This is a black op.

Then there is the strange misidentification of the shooter which defies logic in its most basic terms. First reports identified the shooter as a 20 year old and then the name leaked out as Ryan Lanza. The Word From the Trenches was up on the air at this point. #1 NWO Hatr called in with a report from the internet that said Ryan Lanza was on his Facebook declaring that he was on a bus in New Jersey and very much alive and that he is 24 years old. The mainstream media then began reporting the shooter as 24 year old Ryan Lanza.

Approximately an hour later an attempt to cover up this obvious discrepancy was made by authorities, saying that the shooter was actually Ryan Lanza’s younger brother Adam Lanza, who is 20 years old. The contention was that he and his brother had swapped IDs, resulting in the misidentification.

Well let’s look at this on its face. The shooter is dead on the floor. The police remove his identification, which according to original reports said he was 20 years old, which dictates it was Adam’s ID as his brother Ryan’s ID would have identified him as 24 years old. Any other contention defies logic.

This was a black op.

Finally, the security system at Sandy Hook Elementary School is brand new, state of the art, designed to specifically keep anyone with a gun from entering the building. Initial reports said the shooter was “buzzed in” as this would have been the only way he could get in. And now we are told that the shooter just busted right through the security door, apparently without any problem.

If you have been to a school you know the entry doors are not made of glass, in fact there is not even a window. So what new state of the art security system would put a glass door as the only barrier for a shooter wanting to enter the no gun safety zone?

This is a black op.

It was also mentioned by a couple of the participants in the conversation on The Word From the Trenches that all gun free zones must by law have an armed officer within to protect the unarmed people from any armed intruder who breaches the security.

This is a black op. A full blown campaign for gun confiscation in the US has been orchestrated around this black op. The soviet insurgents who have taken over the United States government are getting ready to initiate austerity measures designed to bring the theft of private property to a new level. They know the people have been arming as never before as we intend to resist the communist takeover of our country.

Petitions began popping up on government websites demanding gun confiscation before the smoke cleared. I believe there are a couple with 40,000 or 50,000 signatures. This is no surprise as we know who the communists are and what their numbers are. There have also been millions and millions and millions of gun and ammunition purchases over the past year and this shows the American nationals’ numbers.

Twenty children being killed, hell, twenty babies, is enough to make any sane person sick, but then these communists are not sane except to the point that they know they cannot conquer our armed population. We must let our enemies know that no matter how many MK Ultra, Prozac propelled psychos they let into schools to murder children, they are not going to take our liberty teeth from us so that they can complete the theft of our nation and slaughter us wholesale like their comrades slaughtered the Russian people during the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917.

In short, our answer to gun confiscation is “No” and no matter what they do the answer will continue to be “No”. Once the Republic has been restored, those deep in the communist insurgency who are really responsible for the murder of these innocent Americans are going to be found out and brought to justice.

God bless the Republic, death to the international corporate mafia, we shall prevail.


http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/sandy-hook-elementary-school-shooting-is-a-false-flag-black-op-push-for-gun-confiscation/28290/

I wonder if the author's repetition of "This is a Black Op" is along the lines of 'if you say something stupid often enough, it becomes true.'

Well, Henry, you're not the brightest individual the gods ever shovelled guts into, are you?

Talk about muddying causality. 'From the trenches?' More like Ward 1B.

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Sat 12/22/12 05:34 AM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sat 12/22/12 06:23 AM
"The father of Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza, Peter Lanza, was the tax director for General Electric, a corporation that paid -0- taxes on 14.2 billion dollars in profits last year. Peter Lanza was scheduled to testify in the ongoing global LIBOR scandal. In what could only be described an amazing coincidence, the father of Colorado Batman shooter James Holmes, Robert Holmes, was also a LIBOR witness in his position with FICO. So in essence, the Govt had had our children MURDERED in order to fulfill the agenda. The agenda, to take your right to defend your self against THEM, by taking your guns. And also the agenda, to stop Peter Lanza (father of Adam) from testifying against the elite rich bankers involved in the LIBOR scandal!!"

A. Windowlicker

noway

Wrong!!!

Peter Lanza is not the tax director for the entire GE Corporation but of GE Energy Financial Services, a subsidiary that invests in energy technology.

Neither Lanza nor Robert Holmes were called to testify at the Congressional LIBOR hearings in July or in any subsequent hearings in any of the investigating countries and there is no reason to believe that either has any connection to it. But hey, who needs facts when you can make **** up on CT sites?

Wouldn't it make more sense to kill the actual witnesses... not their children? The fathers are still alive and able to testify, are they not? Why not stage some huge shooting at GE?

This little gem is rather sad:

Remember the Reichstag? What a coincidence, guess who else used a violent incident as an excuse to take guns? These kids are casualties in the war declared on the United States the day Bill Clinton signed NAFTA and handed our sovereignty over to the United Nations.

Yes, let's scaremonger by mentioning the Nazis (yet again). slaphead That's guaranteed to lend credibility to your argument. laugh

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/facebook-idiots-macros.php

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Sat 12/22/12 05:44 AM
We even have a rebellion to the stupidity on a CT site!

A call to end the insanity regarding conspiracy theories of the Newtown shootings


Hear me out fellow ats'ers. And that means you to CT'ers. Things have gotten out of hand. Countless threads have bombarded the main forum regarding some kind of conspiracy about the shooting. From people claiming to have cracker secret codes, to a blip on a map that appeared for 3 seconds in a 2 1/2 hour movie.

I understand that this act of violence was seemingly unthinkable to most. And we desperately want to make sense out of the chaos. I'm not sure why some of you insist there MUST be a conspiracy. But here;s a test for you to see if you really believe it, or if you may need to admit to yourself you are grasping at straws. Would you tell one of the victim's family members this whole conspiracy ideas? Do you really feel you have some sort of smoking gun? I have news for you. Each one of the conspiracy theories on this shooting differs a little. And why? Because none of you know. Some of you claim to have a smoking gun, some think it requires further research. To those calling for more research, great. Do that. Please let us know your findings. But there is no way on EARTH any of you have done all the proper research to actually make a conclusion. I guarantee you , each and every one of you, that you do not know all the facts. That the police have kept details to themselves.

So until you have allllllll the evidence, give it a rest. I personally believe this is what it seems. I loner went nuts, had mental health issues, and far to easy access to guns. He killed his mom and barged into a school and killed 26 people.

And I'm sorry to say this, but I do not need to be told by members who have been here for a few months that this ' is a conspiracy site and you need to leave because you don't believe its a conspiracy' .

That phrase, or some form of it, has been abused so many times in the last few days. This site was here to vet conspiracies. We don't need 45 threads withe the same premise. Ive been on this site for almost five years. I know exactly what ATS is. It is considered a cop out in my opinion to hide behind the ' its a conspiracy website, if you disagree get out'. This sentiment WAS HARDLY EVER used by ct'ers in the past. Because CT'ers actually were able to debate their threads with skeptics. They knew the skeptics were here to vet and search for the truth just as much as the CT'ers were. However that sentiment has changed . Now it is if you don't like my theory get out, because I don't have to defend it.

No, you do. That's what ATS is. If you have a theory, and you believe in it enough, then defend it. Prove it. If you cant do both, then you are just putting out theories you haven't researched and are just posting hunches. Which is fine, but don't get mad when you are called out for doing so.

So to sum up what Ive seen...

Sandy Hook on a map- Coincidence. This theory implies that Christopher Nolan somehow had knowledge two years in advance of the Newtown shooting. You really believe that?

A code cracked connecting The Dark Knight, the shootings, and Apple? Yet no evidence as to how this code was cracked, what it means, what it shows for the future, just that there were names that connected everything. One member even put forward that Spongebob Squarepants in letter equaled 9/11.

MK-Ultra. Lanza was somehow the victim of mind control by the CIA. While I believe in MK Ultra and fully believe it existed in the CIA. There is not one shred of proof that Lanza had any contact with anyone even closely related to the CIA. Again, no proof. At least Ted Kaszinsky had some kind of tie to the CIA tests. Here, nothing. Just throw out Lanza's name with MK Ultra in the same sentence and there you go, a thread on ATS.

Sandy Hook was a blood ritual with ley lines having something to do with it. In this thread the notion of the author of the Hunger Games is somehow involved because she lives there.

And then there was the second gunman. So it is more likely that Lanza had a second gunman helping him (his brother?) OR there were reports that were just wrong as events unfolded like every other time with the media. Just because the media screws up details as they evolve does not mean there is a conspiracy. I would actually think there was credibility to a conspiracy if the media got everything exactly right.

Please CT'ers. Stop using the 'its a conspiracy board, get out of here if you don't believe'. There was a time where that line of thinking was never tolerated on here. Instead of deflecting, start defending. When you make a thread, be able to defend your claims with evidence. If you cant, don't make a thread. Wait until you have something viable.

Otherwise, this site will devolve to the obscurities of the internet. ATS is losing good members by the day. Most because they couldn't take the constant crap thrown against the wall. Because that's what 25 something threads on this topic is. Throwing crap against the wall and hoping something will stick.


http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread908994/pg1


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Sat 12/22/12 05:55 AM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sat 12/22/12 05:55 AM
It didn't take long for some anti-semitic POS to blame the Jooz.


Failed GOP gubernatorial candidate blames Israel for Sandy Hook shooting on Iranian television


By Julian Pecquet - 12/18/12 01:02 PM ET

A one-time Republican candidate for governor of Arizona blamed Israeli "death squads" for the Sandy Hook shooting during an appearance on Iran's state-run Press TV Tuesday.

Michael Harris came in third place in the 2006 Republican primary, which Len Munsil won before falling to Democrat Janet Napolitano. He is now the Phoenix-based financial editor of Veterans Today, a conspiracy-minded “military and foreign affairs journal” whose editorial board includes former Pakistani and Russian spies.

“I want to remind you of the Norway shooting of Mr. Breivik, which followed a week after Norway had agreed to support Palestine,” Harris told Press TV. “Now you look at Israel just lost their bid to thwart Palestine from being recognized by the United Nations and now here we go, here is a revenge killing in the U.S., sponsored by Israel, that killed all these innocent children and that is something that Israelis do very, very well.

“They target the innocent, they target the children, they target women and they avoid the issue because they are angry. They did not get their way and now Palestine has standing at the U.N, and Israel is going to be subject to the international criminal courts and their leadership is going to be taken to task.”

Press TV (who else?) followed up by running a column written by Gordon Duff, the senior editor at Veterans Today, summarizing Harris's points and pointing to the Republican Jewish Coalition's opposition to former Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.) as secretary of Defense as further proof of an Israeli conspiracy.

“Washington is terrified of Israel, their powerful lobby and its relationship with organized crime,” Duff wrote. “Now, a key former Senator, Chuck Hagel, who has helped expose this fact, is likely to be nominated as the secretary of Defense, despite vocal protests from Israel.”

While some conservative Jewish groups have indeed criticized Hagel, liberal groups such as J Street called Hagel a “staunch friend of the state of Israel and a trusted ally in the Senate, speaking out on behalf of America’s commitment to Israel’s security.”

The Israeli government has so far remained silent on the matter.


I wouldn't bother responding to this crap either.

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/273481-failed-gop-candidate-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook-shooting-on-iranian-television

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Sat 12/22/12 06:02 AM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sat 12/22/12 06:18 AM
Edited.

Sorry, that link was abominable and I couldn't leave it up. Suffice it to say, that some of the libellous crap being posted on these CT sites about the Parker family defies credulity.

Even the muppets over at David Icke's forum are attacking the father. But as one sane individual commented:

"I've finally had it with the Icke forum. They've gone completely off the deep end, because apparently they, personally, should have been allowed to stick their fingers in the wounds to confirm the victims are real; and because one grieving dad managed to pull himself together enough to talk to the press without gnashing his teeth and pulling his hair that proves the parents are all "actors."




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Sat 12/22/12 08:27 AM
I will agree that sometimes speculations may be far-fetched.
I don't think it wise to give all those suggestions the same level of doubt.
I wouldn't be too quick to dispel all possible scenarios.
Since there are conspiratorial rumors, perhaps each should remain on the watchlist
until thorough examination proves them exempt.

But if a conspirator was plotting an act would he not create a very misleading diversion
to throw the inspectors off the trajectory of the very real body of evidence?

Conspirators value those who would mock and brush off clouded evidence.

"Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater"

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Sat 12/22/12 08:27 AM
Edited by CeriseRose on Sat 12/22/12 08:30 AM

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Sat 12/22/12 02:41 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sat 12/22/12 02:49 PM

I will agree that sometimes speculations may be far-fetched.
I don't think it wise to give all those suggestions the same level of doubt.
I wouldn't be too quick to dispel all possible scenarios.
Since there are conspiratorial rumors, perhaps each should remain on the watchlist
until thorough examination proves them exempt.

But if a conspirator was plotting an act would he not create a very misleading diversion
to throw the inspectors off the trajectory of the very real body of evidence?

Conspirators value those who would mock and brush off clouded evidence.

"Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater"


I haven't posted anything that doesn't fail miserably under cursory examination. To posit that these may be ruses intended to cover up the real CT without any evidence is merely to perpetuate the cycle and enter the realm of banality.

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Sat 12/22/12 02:46 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sat 12/22/12 02:52 PM
According to this site, the Newtown & Aurora shootings occurred during the same lunar phase.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread909693/pg1

The comments are spun gold:

"This discovery freaked me out a bit."

"Probably just coincidence, but you never know!"

"I'm starting to see a bigger picture here."

The thread spirals downward from here adding Bohemian Grove and Bilderberg into this illogical admixture of stupidity.


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Sat 12/22/12 02:53 PM
A report I read said most (maybe all) of the killings were done with a Bushmaster rifle. I would think a standard ballistics check would identify the gun(s) used and tell if another shooter was involved. Bullets that fragment could make the effort more difficult.

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Sat 12/22/12 02:56 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sat 12/22/12 02:58 PM
WND Columnist Alleges Sandy Hook Shooting Was Staged


In an outlandish column for WorldNetDaily, Bradlee Dean suggests that the mass shooting last week in Newtown, Connecticut, was staged in order to aid the passage of the UN Arms Trade Treaty and gun control legislation, comparing the administration's purported actions to that of the Nazis setting the Reichstag Fire.

Though WorldNetDaily often publishes conspiratorial stories like Dean's column -- the site was the driving force behind the birther movement -- it's still regularly validated by more mainstream conservatives. Last month, the site announced that they had hired former GOP presidential candidate Rick Santorum as a columnist.

Dean, an "ordained preacher, heavy metal drummer, [and] talk-show host of Sons of Liberty Radio," suggests in his December 21 column that the "timing is impeccable" for both the theater shooting in Aurora and the shooting in Newtown because they happened while the UN was deliberating over the Arms Trade Treaty:


The Sandy Hook shooting occurred just days after Sen. Rand Paul sent out an alert that the U.N. was set to pass the final version of the Small Arms Treaty, supported by Obama the day after election.

Part of the treaty bans the trade, sale and ownership of all semi-automatic weapons ... like the one Adam Lanza used to kill 20 children and 6 adults.

The "Batman shooting" in Aurora, Colo., also happened to coincide with the same time as negotiations of the U.N. Small Arms Treaty.

The timing is impeccable.

Aside from its conspiratorial nature, Dean's column is also plainly inaccurate. Contrary to his suggestion that the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty would ban "the trade, sale, and ownership of all semi-automatic weapons" like the one used by Newtown shooter Adam Lanza, it does nothing of the sort. The Arms Trade Treaty is an effort to regulate the international arms trade and overtly affirms the "sovereign right" of countries to regulate the domestic ownership of firearms "pursuant to its own legal or constitutional system."

As we have previously explained, the Department of State has stated that it will oppose any treaty that contains "restrictions on civilian possession or trade of firearms otherwise permitted by law or protected by the U.S. Constitution."

Dean also provides links to several "reports" alleging inconsistencies in eyewitness accounts of several recent mass shootings in our country. He concludes that "[e]yewitnesses in all of these massacres said there were more shooters than the media maintain, indicating the shootings were coordinated and planned."

Among the sources for these "reports" are Alex Jones' InfoWars website, a forum posting at a separate Alex Jones affiliated site, and a site called "Conscious Life News." Reliable sources, all. (For a sample of the type of conspiracy-mongering Jones' websites have been engaged in this week, a few days ago they published an article proposing that the presence of the phrase "Sandy Hook" on a map in the latest Batman movie is "bizarre evidence" that the shooting "may have been staged.")

According to Dean, Obama's call for "meaningful action" and the push from others for new gun violence prevention legislation in the wake of Sandy Hook is akin to Adolf Hitler "attacking his own Reichstag to start a world war":

When the "fire" is started, these government gun banners are right there to strip away your rights in an attempt to gain control under the guise of "putting out the fire."

Adolf Hitler was responsible for attacking his own Reichstag to start a world war. Hitler was also responsible for sending his brownshirts to incite the people so he could play the role of solving their problems. No one believed Hitler was guilty of these crimes until after the fact.

Then it was too late.

Today, these gun banners are doing the opposite of what our forefathers fought, bled and died to give us.

Dean's column also includes a video suggesting that the Oklahoma City bombing and the Columbine shooting (among others) were similarly staged.


http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/12/21/wnd-columnist-alleges-sandy-hook-shooting-was-s/191946

Another who can't help himself and make irrational comparisons to the Reichstag burning.

Dean, please, you should go back to licking windows for a living.








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Sat 12/22/12 10:52 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sat 12/22/12 10:53 PM
Now, this video 'claims' the father of one of the deceased is actually an actor. What is frightening about this video are the comments left by a gathering crowd of diseased minds.

It occurs to no-one (of course) that if these 'actors' were hired by the government, one would think that they'd get some better than these. But no, not according to the oxygen thieves that commented on this disgusting drivel.

http://youtu.be/urrRcgB581w

A comment on this video (from JREF):

If you want to see a real cornucopia of conspiracy BS, check out the video that was posted earlier in this thread (see link above) where CTs are claiming that the father of a murdered child is an actor. I've been keeping an eye on them for a few days, and I've found that the theories and those who believe in them run the full spectrum of nuttery.

Some think that the entire shooting was fake and nobody died, while some think that "they" are hiring actors to make a real tragedy somehow look worse than it is. Some think there was more than one shooter, some think there were no shooters at all, while others think Adam Lanza was a mind controlled lone gunman. The list of suspects includes the Jews, the US government, the Jews who secretly run the US government, Satanists, Reptilian worshipers, Satanic Reptilian worshipers, you name it. Pretty much every subset of conspiracy lunacy is represented: truthers, birthers, deathers, Holocaust deniers, moon hoaxers, even a handful of "Paul is Dead" wackos still hanging on from the 60s. It's like a bizarro UN for the hopelessly misguided and the clinically insane. The kicker is that they all think the other CTs who disagree with them are crazy or disinfo agents.

Interestingly enough I've also seen a number of 9/11 truthers speak out against the madness of the Sandy Hook conspiracy theorists, i.e., "I believe 9/11 was an inside job, but this is just crazy." In more than one instance, this led to thought provoking conversation that resulted in an understanding of differences. Nah, just kidding, they were downvoted and also labeled as disinfo agents.

If you really want to immerse yourself in the conversational equivalent of raw sewage, I'd advise you to give it a look, but be forewarned that the stupidity on display is immense. And I don't use that word lightly. I've been a casual CT observer for more than ten years and this is absolutely as bad as I have ever seen them.


Twoofers calling other CTer's disinfo agents? Oh, the irony.

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Sat 12/22/12 10:57 PM

"The father of Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza, Peter Lanza, was the tax director for General Electric, a corporation that paid -0- taxes on 14.2 billion dollars in profits last year. Peter Lanza was scheduled to testify in the ongoing global LIBOR scandal. In what could only be described an amazing coincidence, the father of Colorado Batman shooter James Holmes, Robert Holmes, was also a LIBOR witness in his position with FICO. So in essence, the Govt had had our children MURDERED in order to fulfill the agenda. The agenda, to take your right to defend your self against THEM, by taking your guns. And also the agenda, to stop Peter Lanza (father of Adam) from testifying against the elite rich bankers involved in the LIBOR scandal!!"

A. Windowlicker

noway

Wrong!!!

Peter Lanza is not the tax director for the entire GE Corporation but of GE Energy Financial Services, a subsidiary that invests in energy technology.

Neither Lanza nor Robert Holmes were called to testify at the Congressional LIBOR hearings in July or in any subsequent hearings in any of the investigating countries and there is no reason to believe that either has any connection to it. But hey, who needs facts when you can make **** up on CT sites?

Wouldn't it make more sense to kill the actual witnesses... not their children? The fathers are still alive and able to testify, are they not? Why not stage some huge shooting at GE?

This little gem is rather sad:

Remember the Reichstag? What a coincidence, guess who else used a violent incident as an excuse to take guns? These kids are casualties in the war declared on the United States the day Bill Clinton signed NAFTA and handed our sovereignty over to the United Nations.

Yes, let's scaremonger by mentioning the Nazis (yet again). slaphead That's guaranteed to lend credibility to your argument. laugh

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/facebook-idiots-macros.php
Heck,it is even posted on FB,therefore it has to be true!bigsmile

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Sun 12/23/12 05:19 AM
Edited by Rawrr_Girl on Sun 12/23/12 05:38 AM
Disgusting media. I'd rather think the shooting was from some unintentional whim, than a planned event. A plan to go on a rampage to shoot children? Wow. Just how sick must this guy be? Why, whenever a tragedy happens, is there always someone lurking in the shadows assuming that there must be more to it? Out of respect for people's families and friend's, I won't mention which events, but I'm pretty sure you get my drift. Just look at when Marilyn Monroe died. People can die of natural causes. Why always look for more evidence, if nothing more ever truly happened? When there are no hints, aswell, that nothing else was even behind it. Why not take a piece of information for what it is, and then leave it be? Some are just never satisfied.

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Sun 12/23/12 06:39 AM

Disgusting media. I'd rather think the shooting was from some unintentional whim, than a planned event. A plan to go on a rampage to shoot children? Wow. Just how sick must this guy be? Why, whenever a tragedy happens, is there always someone lurking in the shadows assuming that there must be more to it? Out of respect for people's families and friend's, I won't mention which events, but I'm pretty sure you get my drift. Just look at when Marilyn Monroe died. People can die of natural causes. Why always look for more evidence, if nothing more ever truly happened? When there are no hints, aswell, that nothing else was even behind it. Why not take a piece of information for what it is, and then leave it be? Some are just never satisfied.


It seems the first to go with a true crazy is the logic circuits. How someone can then deduce the "logic" of a deranged mind escapes me. It may be as simple as "he wanted to be remembered forever by being the worst killer of all time."

On the other hand we have evil. We have terrorists who want to kill as many as possible in the coldest, most calculated of ways. They are pursuing an agenda such as downfall of the West. To them, it is war with no rules. Hatred is the name of the game.

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Sun 12/23/12 06:41 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sun 12/23/12 07:11 AM

Disgusting media. I'd rather think the shooting was from some unintentional whim, than a planned event. A plan to go on a rampage to shoot children? Wow. Just how sick must this guy be? Why, whenever a tragedy happens, is there always someone lurking in the shadows assuming that there must be more to it? Out of respect for people's families and friend's, I won't mention which events, but I'm pretty sure you get my drift. Just look at when Marilyn Monroe died. People can die of natural causes. Why always look for more evidence, if nothing more ever truly happened? When there are no hints, aswell, that nothing else was even behind it. Why not take a piece of information for what it is, and then leave it be? Some are just never satisfied.


Because things happen like Watergate, Ruby Ridge, Kent State, the Apollo fraud, the Gulf of Tonkin, Benghazi and any number of others!

Not every picture tells a story, not every story is told by a picture. We have been lied to more often than not, our liberties taken from us in the name of security and only "reported" attempts since 9/11, to find they have been staged and planned as a "sting" and not the "idea" of any actual terrorist!

I was always told it was the fool who asked no questions.... It would seem the world, at least our nation and a few others in it, is filling up with fools!

How sad it is when those great patriots like Nathan Hale, our Founding Fathers, Ron Paul, and others like William Wallace, become nothing more than topics for movies or media fodder, dismissed in a Big Pharma matrix of sleepers.

"Give me liberty or give me death!" This is an individual cry, not a gov't slogan, but they are more than happy to dispense the 2nd choice to any who may use it..... for your security of course!

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Sun 12/23/12 01:45 PM


Disgusting media. I'd rather think the shooting was from some unintentional whim, than a planned event. A plan to go on a rampage to shoot children? Wow. Just how sick must this guy be? Why, whenever a tragedy happens, is there always someone lurking in the shadows assuming that there must be more to it? Out of respect for people's families and friend's, I won't mention which events, but I'm pretty sure you get my drift. Just look at when Marilyn Monroe died. People can die of natural causes. Why always look for more evidence, if nothing more ever truly happened? When there are no hints, aswell, that nothing else was even behind it. Why not take a piece of information for what it is, and then leave it be? Some are just never satisfied.


Because things happen like Watergate, Ruby Ridge, Kent State, the Apollo fraud, the Gulf of Tonkin, Benghazi and any number of others!

Not every picture tells a story, not every story is told by a picture. We have been lied to more often than not, our liberties taken from us in the name of security and only "reported" attempts since 9/11, to find they have been staged and planned as a "sting" and not the "idea" of any actual terrorist!

I was always told it was the fool who asked no questions.... It would seem the world, at least our nation and a few others in it, is filling up with fools!

How sad it is when those great patriots like Nathan Hale, our Founding Fathers, Ron Paul, and others like William Wallace, become nothing more than topics for movies or media fodder, dismissed in a Big Pharma matrix of sleepers.

"Give me liberty or give me death!" This is an individual cry, not a gov't slogan, but they are more than happy to dispense the 2nd choice to any who may use it..... for your security of course!


Apollo Fraud?

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Sun 12/23/12 02:02 PM

Apollo Fraud?


It's something believed by those within the Big Pharma matrix of sleepers.

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