Saturday, 15 December 2012 19:38 Last Updated on Saturday, 15 December 2012 19:55 Written by Larry Pratt


They Have Blood on Their Hands



A gunman whose name we do not need to memorialize took advantage of our gun control laws to slaughter some 20 children and seven adults in a Newton, Connecticut elementary school.



In addition to the gunman, blood is on the hands of members of Congress and the Connecticut legislators who voted to ban guns from all schools in Connecticut (and most other states). They are the ones who made it illegal to defend oneself with a gun in a school when that is the only effective way of resisting a gunman.



What a lethal, false security are the Gun Free Zone laws. All of our mass murders in the last 20 years have occurred in Gun Free Zones. The two people murdered a couple of days earlier in the shopping center in Oregon were also in a Gun Free Zone.



Hopefully the Connecticut tragedy will be the tipping point after which a rising chorus of Americans will demand elimination of the Gun Free Zone laws that are in fact Criminal Safe Zones.



One measure of insanity is repeating the same failure time after time hoping that the next time the failure will turn out to be a success. Gun Free Zones are a lethal insanity.



We must tell our elected officials that they are acting as the criminals’ friends as long as they continue to support legislation that only protects criminals, not decent people.



Oh, and we must also insist that these criminal friendly elected officials not even try to blame gun owners and our “gun culture” for what a criminal did. Had a few of us been available with guns at the Newton school, most of the victims might still be alive.

there is absolutely no proof of this repeated claim

how about the mass shootings where people are not in 'gun free' zones,,,

how about the 'gun free zones' where violence never happens

that some locations happen to be gun free zones does nothing to prove that status made it more or less safe than anyplace else

and, by the way, it is our 'gun culture' that creates this people who kill with guns

if not for such a nonchalant attitude about guns and the damage they do,, we wouldnt even need to wonder whether guns to fight guns would end in 'less' violence


anymore than we wonder if fighting fire with fire creates less fire,,,

got that right!
Thank you Billy"Ceegar" Clinton!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun-Free_School_Zones_Act_of_1990

Do these Idiots really believe a Sign would deter a Criminal doing his Business in those Places,because he can do it undisturbed?
They must be as insane as the Perps!

This goes out to those Idiot-Politicians!

First find me one.

There will be some multiple murders that didn't occur in gun free zones, but the death toll will be much lower because there will usually have been a responsible armed citizen to stop the carnage before the death toll climbs too high. In terms of the mass killings we have been putting up with for about the last 15 years or so, I think you will find that virtually all of them were in gun free zones.

Most workplaces and government offices are gun free zones, so the workers at these places were all sitting ducks for the disgruntled, psychotic employees.

All schools are gun free zones, so all the mass murders at places like Virginia tech & such were committed in gun free zones.

I imagine many shopping malls are gun free zones, so you will probably find that quite a few of the mass murders at malls (if any) tend to occur in the gun free ones.

Only some theatres are gun free zones…It is interesting to note that on July 20, the mass murderer went out of his way to choose a theatre for his crime that was a gun free zone.

Are the politicians aware of the hazard their legislation created? They must be; it isn't like nobody's been talking about it. Read what Ted Nugent had to say about them five years ago:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/19/commentary.nugent/index.html

Some legislators were listening. Ron Paul tried to introduce a bill to do away with the frankenstein monster Congress created in the 1990s:

http://www.themoralliberal.com/2011/08/04/ron-paul-introduces-bill-to-abolish-‘gun-free-zones’/

Just imagine if Ron Paul had been able to get that bill passed. Maybe the horrendous murder of those little kids in school the other day wouldn't have happened, or if it had, at least the death toll might have been reduced considerably.

Murders, even multiple murders are bound to occur outside of gun free zones, but logically speaking, because there may be an armed citizen to stop the killer, the death tolls will be much lower. It is not logical to expect to find a responsible gun toting citizen in a gun free zone…after all what rational human being wants to risk prison for breaking the law?



Don't you mean "…never happened YET"?

I'm sorry, but I'm with Penn & Teller on the issue of guns:

http://xrepublic.tv/node/1435

Excellent video!

Actually, yes Mh.
Fires are used to control and stop fires. Proven at least a dozen times a year in wildfires.

yep, by trained firefighters

I wouldnt suggest EVERY CITIZEN feel free to try it

I think you are speaking without having any evidence,, ASSUMING

people often repeat this claim about 'gun free zones' and Im left wondering if they bother to validate or actually research what a 'gun free zone' is , how its designated, or whether these sites where people open fire are indeed 'gun free'

with the exception of schools, which common sense dictates most responsible parents wouldnt want an open gun policy

Im not sure how pro gun advocates get this information about the gun designation of these locations


the san ysidro mcdonalds where 42 were killed/injured, for one, was not a gun free zone


the long island rail road where 25 were killed/injured wasnt a gun free zone

the air force BASE, where 28 were killed/injured was certainly ot a gun free zone




the safeway parking lot where 19 were killed/injured wasnt a gun free zone



you are right

there are a number of massacres that didnt happen in gun free zones

most likely because when people SNAP they really havent usually bothered to research whether their location is 'gun free' or not, I havent even heard of the term until this forum myself,,,,,

so there is still no clear indication that someplace being designated 'gun free', makes people any less safe than someplace that is not,,,,

and no indication that a place with no gun free policy is safer than those with

even in a military environment, someone who wants to open fire will and people will die before anyone stops them,,,does it really make it that much 'better' an option if there are 30 who die before that point or 40?

That's why firearm training is available. To teach proper hadling and safety.
Myself and any other Vet have had that training. We are qualified. I am personally qualified from bb gun to 50 cal. machine gun. Including grenade launchers.
There are hundreds of millions who are professionally qualified as well.

not in america there isnt


maybe around the world,,,

More unsubstantiated BS.
On military bases, a select few are allowed to carry.
I also see a failure in counting the number of vets still alive and the numbers still active duty. Their ages range from 18 to a vet I know who will turn 100 in Feb. He is still a qualified expert.
So much for anal smoke blowing.

PS
I am just an ordinary person and I know about fire breking and using fire against itself.

no idea what the above refers to

in america there are 311 million people
of which about 74 million are minors

that leavs about 237 million non minors in america

if you are suggesting that 50 percent or more of those americans are 'professionally trained'

than it is I who calls BS

...Especially in Switzerland, the most peaceful armed populace in the world...about half the citizens are armed and gun crime is almost non-existant....Swiss citizens are well-trained in firearm use.

and?

as well armed as switzerland is, america is even more well armed, and our gun crime is VERY existent

,, so what does that prove?

Oh great. It's another one of those "Blame everyone but the actual villain" threads.

It proves that the number or type of guns per capita does not correlate to gun crime.
It proves that a well armed & trained civilian population (civilian militia) acts as a deterrent to invasion.
It proves the sound reasoning behind the wording in the American Constitution's second amendment.

of course, the 'villains' hold the bulk of the responsibility

yet, responsibility is rarely one layer deep,, so to speak

much like a rapist assaulting women in a womens home, if he was an employee there, may lead some to hold that establishment in some responsibility for helping provide such a motivation rich society for him to operate inside of

likewise, such unstable 'villains' and hateful or violent 'villains' being given such easy access to the tools to carry out their rampage with,, may lead some to hold the establishment which creates and issues such tools with some responsibility

I fail to see the point of the OP; are you suggesting that teacher application ask can you use a handgun, are you willing to carry one safely and responsibly and are you willing to shoot and kill an intruder coming into the school to cause harm? As well as , stay focused on your job and get your paperwork in on time. Or is the OP stating we need police presence in schools, like we have in several here in Philly?