Clearly you're just being silly or you don't comprehend.

Sadly, you just don't understand, do you? I suppose this will degenerate into a three page tome driven purely by your poor understanding of the concepts involved.

You don't know their existence is a lie, so your rant is just that, a rant.

I know.

I know a lie when I see it.

Answer this question:

How does the Bible and the story of Abraham and King David (Most likely fictional) legitimize modern Zionist Israel?

I understand what you are trying to sell, I'm just not buying it.

I'm not trying to sell anything, just pointing out the logical fallacy within your typically specious argument. If ignorance is your choice I won't get in your way, and I won't be baited into more of this disgusting, anti-semitic bilge. I find these vile and puerile games quite offensive.

OK - Well now we know that Jews are real, the Ashkenazi Jews are
just as Jewish as any other Jews, that the Romans overthrew the
Kingdom of David and that it was probably called the Kingdom of
David because of Kings Saul, Solomon and David discussed in the
bible and other writings.

We now can agree that Judaism is a religion and Jews are people who
follow some set of basic beliefs of Judaism and identify with that
religion. We now know also that detailed genetic studies have proven
that Jews from all over the world share a common genetic ancestry
which traces back to ancient Israel (the Kingdom of David) which is
mentioned by the Egyptians in writings dating back nearly 2000 years
before Christ and that these ancient Israelites originated their own
country Israel there during these times.

Fine.

So now we can get back to the thread topic which makes overblown and
erroneous claims about how the Gazans have been mistreated by Israel.

For one thing, Israel has never run Gaza or controlled it.

The Gaza Strip (Arabic: قطاع غزة‎ Qiṭāʿ Ġazzah, IPA: [qɪˈtˤɑːʕ ˈɣazza]) is a territory on the eastern coast of the Mediterranean Sea that borders Egypt on the southwest (11 km) and Israel on the east and north (51 km (32 mi)). It is 41 kilometres (25 mi) long, and from 6 to 12 kilometres (3.7 to 7.5 mi) wide, with a total area of 365 square kilometres (141 sq mi).[1] The population of Gaza Strip is about 1.7 million people.[2] The population is predominantly Sunni Muslim. With a yearly growth rate of about 3.2%, the Gaza Strip has the 7th highest population growth rate in the world.[2]

The Gaza Strip acquired its current northern and eastern boundaries at the cessation of fighting in the 1948 war, confirmed by the Israel-Egypt Armistice Agreement on 24 February 1949.[3] Article V of the Agreement declared that the demarcation line was not to be an international border. The Gaza Strip continued to be occupied by Egypt. At first Gaza Strip was officially administered by the All-Palestine Government, established by the Arab League in September 1948. From the dissolution of the All-Palestine Government in 1959 until 1967, the Gaza Strip was directly administered by an Egyptian military governor. Israel captured the Gaza Strip from Egypt in the Six-Day War in 1967. Pursuant to the Oslo Accords signed in 1993, the Palestinian Authority became the administrative body that governed Palestinian population centers.

Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005. Since July 2007, following the 2006 Palestinian legislative election and following the Hamas takeover in 2007, Hamas has functioned as the de facto ruler in the Gaza Strip, forming an alternative Hamas Government in Gaza.

Hamas has ruled the Gaza strip by strongarm methods torturing and
killing any open opponents and threatening the civilian population
with forced adherence to a barbarous version of radical Islamic
society much like in Afghanistan under the Taliban.

Rather than truly democratizing their society and working on
developing a non-military economy, Hamas has spent their time and
effort on weapons smuggling and attacking Israeli civilians. This
was done without regard for the wellbeing of ordinary Gazans who
ultimately are endangered when the Israelis are forced to try to
eliminate the rocket launching brigades and Hamas militant forces.
Hamas also allows a number of other radical Islamic paramilitary
groups to attack Israeli civilians and encourages their efforts.

Thus, Gaza has become a Taliban-like entity and Hamas is recognized
internationally as one of the worlds nastiest terrorist organizations.
Hamas rules Gaza, preached hatred and violence and simply attacks any
opposition to brutally suppress it by force.

The administration of the Gaza strip is really up to the Palestinians
themselves and they have a choice to live in peace or pursue war
with Israel and antisemitic hatred of Jews. At this time the terrorists
from Hamas are in charge and the Gazans are stuck living with them
as violent masters until they have their own Gazan spring.

It is a very sad time for the poor Gazans stuck with this terrorist
regime.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/20/hamas-kills-suspected-col_n_2165236.html

Please repeat this if you voted for Obama!

From a Cleveland news paper.

n the Nov. 25 Forum section, Charles Krauthammer tries to deny that Israel is an occupying force in the Gaza Strip. He uses the fact that, in 2005, Israel evacuated its troops and settlers from Gaza to thus ask the ludicrous question: "What occupation?"

Hence, he omits other equally well-known facts, such as: Israel controls all access in or out of Gaza by only two crossing gates. Gaza is surrounded by a security fence, and Israel often shoots anyone who comes within 1,000 feet of it on the Gaza side. Israel controls all goods entering Gaza by only three gates. It bans so many necessary items that many factories and thousands of businesses have had to shut down. Because of Israel's control of water and electricity, Gaza endures extreme shortages of both. Israel totally controls Gaza's air space and territorial fishing waters off their coastline. Israel bars the Gazans from building an airport or seaport. Israel has veto power over who can have Palestinian residency status in Gaza. Israel controls Gaza's taxes.

These facts and many more, and their devastating effect on the Gaza population, are so well known that even spokespeople for the United Nations, Human Rights Watch and other international bodies continue to refer to Israel as an occupying force in Gaza. Who is Krauthammer trying to fool?
David Singerman, Cleveland Heights

http://blog.cleveland.com/letters/2012/12/israels_control_over_gaza_is_a.html

Not selling anything? I beg to differ.

Logical Fallacy? (That is always your escape.)

"If ignorance is your choice I won't get in your way?"

"...Vile and puerile games quite offensive?"

And all because I state that don't believe that King David or Abraham were real characters because there is no sufficient evidence?

Think about what you are saying.

You think this is a game? Really? Then it is advisable that you don't continue to play.

It matters to me that there are three vile and bloody religions based on characters in the Bible who probably never existed.

Lies bother me especially when they are peddled to the public at large as truth.

I liked fairy tales as much as the next person when I was a child but I think its time humanity grew up.

I vote Libertarian.

I'm shocked, I did too!

And Bestinshow, you know WHY Israel keeps taking Gaza from Palestine?

In the 1960s and 1970s Palestine used Garza's high ground to fire artillery into Israel. Now they fire rockets. Also Gaza has been a staging ground since the 1960s for terrorist activity in Israel. There was an incident which made Egypt slam the boarder to Palestine shut on Palestine because Israel had proof weapons were coming through Egypt and had it not stopped Egypt and Israel would have been at each other again and Israel was pretty clear then if they went for Egypt they were using ALL WEAPONS AT THEIR DISPOSAL which meant clearly they would have used nukes anyways! Israel was nuke capable since the 1970s and even then they had their own small nukes in the late 1960s. it seems thanks to cold war tensions we seen fit to supply Israel a few little goodies in case Russia got ideas. they went in as Pershing II missiles but wound up becoming Jericho missiles once Israel got the idea how to manufacture for themselves. Now with this aside Gaza overlooks Israel. It is strategic ground and nothing more. Israel will not let Palestine hold a high ground advantage over them in any way! Now when they repeatedly attack Israel without provocation. Don't give me that occupying forces crap. Israel does what they do to protect themselves and I am stunned after almost 60 years of this animosity crap from Palestine and local Arabs Israel has not wiped Palestine from the map yet and end this charade! it takes two sides to make peace, not one. Time and time again Israel has tried to lay the Olive Branch of Peace down only to have it taken and tossed aside with hollow promises of peace one day to be shattered the next by Palestinians launching an unprovoked attack!

BTW, nice way to rub in our working class non union noses that you get a paid vacation and we don't. You are aware the higher you sit in a high chair the farther the fall down when something knocks a leg from the high chair you are sitting on out from under you! Karma can be really nasty to us all!

AndyBgood

I believe the election was electronically tampered with. Votes for Romney were changing to a vote for Obama right in front of the eyes of the voters.

I wasn't about to vote for either one even though I was quite certain that Obama would "win." I would have bet my life's savings on it if anyone would have taken the bet. It was a sure thing.

I feel that if everyone would wake up and just stop voting or vote Libertarian it would send a message.

I think war in the Middle east will soon be the least of the world's problems.

I would rather see others raised up to a descent standard of living it is after all the American way.

most union people are well paid, guaranteed benefits, and cannot get fired for anything without the three strikes, and any trained monkey could do 90% of the work they do... have you noticed most union people don't ever say what they do exactly, they just say how great the union is while sitting back and being as lazy as possible?

There are a lot of greedy and evil people running this asylum. What can we do about that?

I have never noticed that at least in my local. I have noticed and it annoys me that drunks who are in treatment have immunity to our attendance policies. I have seen many good men get fired over a bad run of luck and to many drunks escape the system cuz they have a disease.

what disease? there's a disease that turns people into drunks?