Topic: What the American Media Won't Tell You About Israel
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Tue 12/11/12 04:37 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 12/11/12 04:39 PM



I love this place. laugh


I blame the Rothschilds.

laugh


No, itz da joos! laugh


No, its the Rothschilds. They invented Israel. They own Israel. They are the slave masters. The Jewish people are their slaves. They just wanted a place to put them all. So they invented Israel and created Zionism, which is a plan to drive their Jewish slaves there by creating antisemitism all over the world.

Rothschilds are not Jewish. They are the impostors. They are more similar to Nazis in my opinion.


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Tue 12/11/12 04:39 PM
Everyone claims to be God's chosen but Islam takes it to an all time historic high.

Go ahead and blame Israel for everything under the sun. they are such instigators yet none of you look at who the real instigators are.

Just keep staring at Israel and you will never see what is going on in our own back yard. You are aware that a group of Ethiopians had claim to Jewish heritage and yet they were scoffed and rebuffed until a DNA test PROVED THEY WERE! Israel had a HUGE ceremony of apology and welcoming of their brothers.

So now because I HAVE been disenfranchised by my own government does that mean I have a right to lob Rockets at Washington DC? I have seen people justify violence in the name of retaliation.

The REAL head of the snake is the English Royal Family, English Global Banking, and the Globalist industrial complex. As long as they ferment the problems of the world no one can see what they are up to behind our backs!

The Rothchilds indeed! AS if some of you even comprehend the VASTNESS of the problem we are facing and Palestine is a JOKE none of you see for what it is. How about Sorros, The BUSH family? How about the many power players behind the scenes you don't even know about because they spend huge money on remaining anonymous!

By all rights Israel should have wiped them out a long time ago!

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Tue 12/11/12 04:40 PM




I love this place. laugh


I blame the Rothschilds.

laugh


No, itz da joos! laugh


Rothschilds are not Jewish. They are the impostors. They are more similar to Nazis in my opinion.


A Godwin! laugh

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Tue 12/11/12 04:44 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 12/11/12 04:47 PM

Everyone claims to be God's chosen but Islam takes it to an all time historic high.

Go ahead and blame Israel for everything under the sun. they are such instigators yet none of you look at who the real instigators are.

Just keep staring at Israel and you will never see what is going on in our own back yard. You are aware that a group of Ethiopians had claim to Jewish heritage and yet they were scoffed and rebuffed until a DNA test PROVED THEY WERE! Israel had a HUGE ceremony of apology and welcoming of their brothers.

So now because I HAVE been disenfranchised by my own government does that mean I have a right to lob Rockets at Washington DC? I have seen people justify violence in the name of retaliation.

The REAL head of the snake is the English Royal Family, English Global Banking, and the Globalist industrial complex. As long as they ferment the problems of the world no one can see what they are up to behind our backs!

The Rothchilds indeed! AS if some of you even comprehend the VASTNESS of the problem we are facing and Palestine is a JOKE none of you see for what it is. How about Sorros, The BUSH family? How about the many power players behind the scenes you don't even know about because they spend huge money on remaining anonymous!

By all rights Israel should have wiped them out a long time ago!


The Rothschilds are just a small faction. But you are absolutely right about the head of the snake being the English Royal Family, English Global Banking and the Globalist industrial complex.

But what I believe is that they are all related. Rothschilds are royal family too. (Lord Rothschild -- royalty) They all consider themselves to be royalty and better than anyone else. None of them have any respect for the religious scams they have perpetrated on the ignorant pheasants and the common people.

But you nailed it. The head of the snake is the monarchy and people who think they are royalty and better than everyone else.

..and of course the Pope and the Catholic Church.





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Tue 12/11/12 04:48 PM


Everyone claims to be God's chosen but Islam takes it to an all time historic high.

Go ahead and blame Israel for everything under the sun. they are such instigators yet none of you look at who the real instigators are.

Just keep staring at Israel and you will never see what is going on in our own back yard. You are aware that a group of Ethiopians had claim to Jewish heritage and yet they were scoffed and rebuffed until a DNA test PROVED THEY WERE! Israel had a HUGE ceremony of apology and welcoming of their brothers.

So now because I HAVE been disenfranchised by my own government does that mean I have a right to lob Rockets at Washington DC? I have seen people justify violence in the name of retaliation.

The REAL head of the snake is the English Royal Family, English Global Banking, and the Globalist industrial complex. As long as they ferment the problems of the world no one can see what they are up to behind our backs!

The Rothchilds indeed! AS if some of you even comprehend the VASTNESS of the problem we are facing and Palestine is a JOKE none of you see for what it is. How about Sorros, The BUSH family? How about the many power players behind the scenes you don't even know about because they spend huge money on remaining anonymous!

By all rights Israel should have wiped them out a long time ago!


The Rothschilds are just a small faction. But you are absolutely right about the head of the snake being the English Royal Family, English Global Banking and the Globalist industrial complex.

But what I believe is that they are all related. Rothschilds are royal family too. (Lord Rothschild -- royalty) They all consider themselves to be royalty and better than anyone else. None of them have any respect for the religious scams they have perpetrated on the ignorant pheasants and the common people.

But you nailed it. The head of the snake is the monarchy and people who think they are royalty and better than everyone else.

..and of course the Pope and the Catholic Church.







So now the big question, how do we take power from these people? How do we break their power monopoly and break their stranglehold on our lives?

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Tue 12/11/12 04:54 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 12/11/12 04:56 PM



Everyone claims to be God's chosen but Islam takes it to an all time historic high.

Go ahead and blame Israel for everything under the sun. they are such instigators yet none of you look at who the real instigators are.

Just keep staring at Israel and you will never see what is going on in our own back yard. You are aware that a group of Ethiopians had claim to Jewish heritage and yet they were scoffed and rebuffed until a DNA test PROVED THEY WERE! Israel had a HUGE ceremony of apology and welcoming of their brothers.

So now because I HAVE been disenfranchised by my own government does that mean I have a right to lob Rockets at Washington DC? I have seen people justify violence in the name of retaliation.

The REAL head of the snake is the English Royal Family, English Global Banking, and the Globalist industrial complex. As long as they ferment the problems of the world no one can see what they are up to behind our backs!

The Rothchilds indeed! AS if some of you even comprehend the VASTNESS of the problem we are facing and Palestine is a JOKE none of you see for what it is. How about Sorros, The BUSH family? How about the many power players behind the scenes you don't even know about because they spend huge money on remaining anonymous!

By all rights Israel should have wiped them out a long time ago!


The Rothschilds are just a small faction. But you are absolutely right about the head of the snake being the English Royal Family, English Global Banking and the Globalist industrial complex.

But what I believe is that they are all related. Rothschilds are royal family too. (Lord Rothschild -- royalty) They all consider themselves to be royalty and better than anyone else. None of them have any respect for the religious scams they have perpetrated on the ignorant pheasants and the common people.

But you nailed it. The head of the snake is the monarchy and people who think they are royalty and better than everyone else.

..and of course the Pope and the Catholic Church.







So now the big question, how do we take power from these people? How do we break their power monopoly and break their stranglehold on our lives?



Ignore them, their laws, and their money.

Do not recognize them. Do not let them "lead" us into war.

Don't listen to them, don't vote for them, don't pay taxes.

Make our own money with gold or silver or print our own money without having to borrow it from the FED and pay interest on worthless money.

Money is worthless. Paper money and numbers in a computer. All created out of thin air. And they charge interest on NOTHING.

Don't borrow their worthless money.
Don't support their scam religions. Expose them. They are all lies.


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Tue 12/11/12 05:59 PM
Edited by AndyBgood on Tue 12/11/12 06:00 PM




Everyone claims to be God's chosen but Islam takes it to an all time historic high.

Go ahead and blame Israel for everything under the sun. they are such instigators yet none of you look at who the real instigators are.

Just keep staring at Israel and you will never see what is going on in our own back yard. You are aware that a group of Ethiopians had claim to Jewish heritage and yet they were scoffed and rebuffed until a DNA test PROVED THEY WERE! Israel had a HUGE ceremony of apology and welcoming of their brothers.

So now because I HAVE been disenfranchised by my own government does that mean I have a right to lob Rockets at Washington DC? I have seen people justify violence in the name of retaliation.

The REAL head of the snake is the English Royal Family, English Global Banking, and the Globalist industrial complex. As long as they ferment the problems of the world no one can see what they are up to behind our backs!

The Rothchilds indeed! AS if some of you even comprehend the VASTNESS of the problem we are facing and Palestine is a JOKE none of you see for what it is. How about Sorros, The BUSH family? How about the many power players behind the scenes you don't even know about because they spend huge money on remaining anonymous!

By all rights Israel should have wiped them out a long time ago!


The Rothschilds are just a small faction. But you are absolutely right about the head of the snake being the English Royal Family, English Global Banking and the Globalist industrial complex.

But what I believe is that they are all related. Rothschilds are royal family too. (Lord Rothschild -- royalty) They all consider themselves to be royalty and better than anyone else. None of them have any respect for the religious scams they have perpetrated on the ignorant pheasants and the common people.

But you nailed it. The head of the snake is the monarchy and people who think they are royalty and better than everyone else.

..and of course the Pope and the Catholic Church.







So now the big question, how do we take power from these people? How do we break their power monopoly and break their stranglehold on our lives?



Ignore them, their laws, and their money.

Do not recognize them. Do not let them "lead" us into war.

Don't listen to them, don't vote for them, don't pay taxes.

Make our own money with gold or silver or print our own money without having to borrow it from the FED and pay interest on worthless money.

Money is worthless. Paper money and numbers in a computer. All created out of thin air. And they charge interest on NOTHING.

Don't borrow their worthless money.
Don't support their scam religions. Expose them. They are all lies.




You are aware that takes, money, organization, and when the power players attempt assassinations on those opposing them "we the people" need to have the balls to hit back and go through anyone between us and them. If that means taking on the English military then guess what... We will have to go to war with them a third time (The revolutionary War, and the War of 1812). And this time it would mean mass executions to wipe out the intrigue of the royal family and the power players who pretend to be god's chosen! Otherwise the disease will rise again. God it sounds easy but you are aware of the scope of such an undertaking and the need for security once this really does begin to become a problem for these masters of Machiavellian manipulation.

But what keeps "we the people," from becoming the oppressors we fought to end their oppression? Really the whole American Empire is a front for the English Empire.

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Tue 12/11/12 06:19 PM
I blame the Rothschilds.


Sure, if doing so will make you feel better . . .

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Tue 12/11/12 08:13 PM

I blame "people".

There's no game without players! Managers and owners can only control the willing!! Money, power and privilige (fame) will always corrupt, players are simply pawns to be sacrificed, and fans will believe what they are sold.

The whole world is WWF on steriods!

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Tue 12/11/12 08:46 PM


Still waiting.

Explain to the world why the Askenazi non-religious Zionist's of Israel have a right to be in Israel if they were not actually born there?

Also please explain why Israel has a right to be a "Jewish State."

The Genetics have nothing to do with these questions. If you think they do, then please explain.


1. Ashkenazi Jews and Zionist Jews both of whom are descended from
Jews of ancient Israel have the right to live with other Jews together
in their original homeland if they wish.

2. Israel not only has a right to determine their national religion
but they also have a duty to do so and preserve a place where all
Jews can live free from religious persecution. It is all too obvious
why this is necessary after the mass killings of Jews and unjust
persecution of Jews throughout the Mideast and Europe and Asia.

3. The genetic evidence clearly shows the connection of the Ashkenazi Jews and Zionist Jews in face all Jews to their ancient
heritage. It refutes the idiotic claim that Ashkenazi Jews were
descended primarily from the Khazars and that all Jews share a
common religious and genetic heritage related to ancient Israel.


all excellent points. Israel's national internal policies are no one else's business, just as our own here in America. Israel can decide who may live there....who cares - it is a non issue for no reason. Whomever lives there will need to be law abiding like any where else.

why do others assume they have a right to tell Israel what to do with the nation she has created? In America we say if someone does not like it here they are welcome to go - Israel can say the same

to the same anti semitic racists detractors that appear on here over and over again - I can't imagine that you don't have more important things to worry about in your own back yards than trying to tell a sovereign nation what to do ......you sound ridiculous yanno & the racism is vile and ugly

just sayin

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Tue 12/11/12 08:53 PM


I blame "people".

There's no game without players! Managers and owners can only control the willing!! Money, power and privilige (fame) will always corrupt, players are simply pawns to be sacrificed, and fans will believe what they are sold.

The whole world is WWF on steriods!


wwe, wwf is the world wildlife fund...

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Wed 12/12/12 12:20 AM




I love this place. laugh


I blame the Rothschilds.

laugh


No, itz da joos! laugh


No, its the Rothschilds. They invented Israel. They own Israel. They are the slave masters. The Jewish people are their slaves. They just wanted a place to put them all. So they invented Israel and created Zionism, which is a plan to drive their Jewish slaves there by creating antisemitism all over the world.

Rothschilds are not Jewish. They are the impostors. They are more similar to Nazis in my opinion.


Godwin's Law!laugh

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Wed 12/12/12 12:23 AM

Actually,Israel ought to stop propping up the PA,and after Hamas takes over beat the living Crap out of them once and for all!


Sounds like typical hate speech to me.
I bet there are a lot of Semitic People living in Gaza.
told you before,I don't hate,it's counterproductive!
And to let the PA fail and Hamas taking over,then trounce Hamas is the rational thing to do!

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Wed 12/12/12 12:37 AM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Wed 12/12/12 01:10 AM

to the same anti semitic racists detractors that appear on here over and over again - I can't imagine that you don't have more important things to worry about in your own back yards than trying to tell a sovereign nation what to do ......you sound ridiculous yanno & the racism is vile and ugly

just sayin


drinker No matter how it is presented, or with whatever excuse, at the core lies anti-semitism in all its vile and repugnant barbarism.


There is a dangerous confluence between anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism, though the two concepts are not always identical. Anti-Zionism is often used to conceal hatred of Jews. Anti-Semitic views can be easily distinguished from legitimate criticism of Israel.

1.Consider the source. Is the speaker someone with a history of anti-Jewish attitudes? *Check*

2.Critics who habitually single out Israel for condemnation while ignoring far worse actions by other countries (especially other Middle Eastern countries) are anti-Semitic. *Check*

3.Likening Israel to Nazi Germany, or to traditional anti-Jewish stereotypical behavior is another sure sign of Jew-baiting. *Check*

4.Attacks on the merits of Israel's existence rather than individual government policies are anti-Semitic. *Check*

When approached by a student who attacked Zionism, Dr. Martin Luther King responded: “When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking anti-Semitism.”

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Wed 12/12/12 12:44 AM




I love this place. laugh


I blame the Rothschilds.

laugh


No, itz da joos! laugh


No, its the Rothschilds. They invented Israel. They own Israel. They are the slave masters. The Jewish people are their slaves. They just wanted a place to put them all. So they invented Israel and created Zionism, which is a plan to drive their Jewish slaves there by creating antisemitism all over the world.

Rothschilds are not Jewish. They are the impostors. They are more similar to Nazis in my opinion.


you don't even know who the Rotschilds are!
laugh
Guess all of them,hundreds of them are Conspiratorial Billionaires,having Pinky and The Brain employed to take over the world!
laugh

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Wed 12/12/12 12:47 AM


to the same anti semitic racists detractors that appear on here over and over again - I can't imagine that you don't have more important things to worry about in your own back yards than trying to tell a sovereign nation what to do ......you sound ridiculous yanno & the racism is vile and ugly

just sayin


drinker No matter how it is presented, or with whatever excuse, at the core lies anti-semitism in all its vile and repugnant barbarism.
That's what it boils down to!
That's what's behind all those wildeyed woolly Conspiracy Theories!

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Wed 12/12/12 12:48 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Wed 12/12/12 12:48 AM

Everyone claims to be God's chosen but Islam takes it to an all time historic high.

Go ahead and blame Israel for everything under the sun. they are such instigators yet none of you look at who the real instigators are.

Just keep staring at Israel and you will never see what is going on in our own back yard. You are aware that a group of Ethiopians had claim to Jewish heritage and yet they were scoffed and rebuffed until a DNA test PROVED THEY WERE! Israel had a HUGE ceremony of apology and welcoming of their brothers.

So now because I HAVE been disenfranchised by my own government does that mean I have a right to lob Rockets at Washington DC? I have seen people justify violence in the name of retaliation.

The REAL head of the snake is the English Royal Family, English Global Banking, and the Globalist industrial complex. As long as they ferment the problems of the world no one can see what they are up to behind our backs!

The Rothchilds indeed! AS if some of you even comprehend the VASTNESS of the problem we are facing and Palestine is a JOKE none of you see for what it is. How about Sorros, The BUSH family? How about the many power players behind the scenes you don't even know about because they spend huge money on remaining anonymous!

By all rights Israel should have wiped them out a long time ago!

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Wed 12/12/12 04:37 AM
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…our people have witnessed, and continue to witness, an unprecedented intensification of military assaults, the blockade, settlement activities and ethnic cleansing, particularly in Occupied East Jerusalem, and mass arrests, attacks by settlers and other practices by which this Israeli occupation is becoming synonymous with an apartheid system of colonial occupation, which institutionalizes the plague of racism and entrenches hatred and incitement.

What permits the Israeli government to blatantly continue with its aggressive policies and the perpetration of war crimes stems from its conviction that it is above the law and that it has immunity from accountability and consequences….

Thus Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas characterized Israel in speaking to the UN General Assembly on November 29, part of his successful bid for the West Bank and Gaza to be recognized by that body as a “state.” His words were consistent with incendiary calumnies heaped on Israel throughout the Arab world and in much of the Muslim world.

There is, though, a difference: that it is Israel that keeps Abbas and his PA afloat. Along with the United States and the European Union, Israel gives Abbas the financial support without which his institutions would collapse. And it is Israeli security forces in the West Bank, in cooperation—at least until recently—with Abbas’s own security forces, that keep the West Bank from being taken over by Gaza-based Hamas.

This radical instance of biting the hand that feeds one naturally raises the question of whether Israel has to keep sustaining an entity that shows its gratitude by attacking it diplomatically and cultivating generations of hatred. The question is further sharpened by a recent escalation of anti-Israeli violence in the West Bank (see here, here, and here) amid reports that PA security forces have stopped arresting Hamas operatives there and “no longer seem…motivated to curb their activities in the area.”

One of Israel’s sharper analysts—Prof. Efraim Inbar, director of Bar-Ilan University’s Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies (BESA)—says: enough already.

Interviewed by Israel’s Besheva Hebrew-language weekly (translation here) the same week that Abbas gave his General Assembly address, Inbar said he was “not too upset” by Abbas’s UN move. He explained:

The Palestinian Authority is a fictional entity. It continues to exist only because of the IDF, and if we are not there, Hamas will take over take the place. I’m not sure it is right for us to continue to support the Palestinian Authority. We should let it fall apart….

Inbar went on to note that the Palestinian Authority “makes claims against us…runs an anti-Israel campaign all over the world…educates its people toward hatred of Israel…. We have to let them fail.”

When the interviewer noted the “concern that Hamas will take over the area,” Inbar responded:

We will not allow Hamas to take over the area. We will rule…. We should prepare to put up with some disturbances, and stop paying lip service to the paradigm of two states for two peoples. It simply does not work because there is no partner on the other side.

Asked whether, in terms of international law, Israel would not still be held responsible for the Palestinian population, Inbar replied:

There’s no need for us to be responsible for them. I am not prepared to be responsible for the food that comes or does not come to them. It’s their problem, not ours. What, must I take care of the whole world? We left their big cities in 1996 and that’s it…. If they want to be nice to us then we’ll help them, if not then we won’t…. Yes. There would be international pressure and we will withstand it. If the Europeans want to help them, let them help them…. We should not help our enemies.

It should be noted, first, that right after Inbar’s interview and Abbas’s speech, the Netanyahu government took two measures: announcing stepped-up building plans in parts of Jerusalem and the West Bank, including the heavily contested E1 area near Jerusalem; and suspending the month’s transfer of tax payments to the PA, using the money instead to pay the PA’s enormous debt to the Israel Electric Corporation.

Naturally, the worldwide diplomatic condemnation was unanimous and particularly nasty from Europe with its burgeoning Muslim populations and tight commercial ties with Arab states. To its credit, the Netanyahu government said it was going ahead with the measures anyway, though to what extent the building plans for E1 are just declaratory or will really be fulfilled remains to be seen.

Second, Inbar’s interview is not, of course, a systematic position paper and leaves some questions open—particularly whether Israel’s retaking full security control of the West Bank would pass the cost-benefit test. Israel’s security establishment has reportedly told Netanyahu such a redeployment would add some $3.15 billion to Israel’s annual budget—at a time when Israel’s fiscal discipline is the envy of most of the West and a paramount Israeli interest.

On the other hand, if the current disturbances continue and Abbas’s forces continue to prove useless or actively collusive with Hamas, Israel will have little choice but to crack down and this question may answer itself.

Third, barring such a scenario, Netanyahu—a cautious leader who faces much graver security challenges from the Syrian and, most of all, Iranian directions, and wants to get along as much as possible with a difficult occupant of the White House for another four years—is not likely to take any drastic steps toward the PA for the time being, even if he emerges from Israel’s January 22 elections with a more hawkish coalition.

Still, the questions Inbar raises are acute. Israel faces a morally upside-down world where it is damned for taking military, economic, or any other steps against sworn enemies who, in turn, are coddled and excused. The question is how long, as the PA keeps biting its helping hand, Israel can engage in morally upside-down behavior.


I say let the PA fetch!

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Wed 12/12/12 05:52 AM



Still waiting.

Explain to the world why the Askenazi non-religious Zionist's of Israel have a right to be in Israel if they were not actually born there?

Also please explain why Israel has a right to be a "Jewish State."

The Genetics have nothing to do with these questions. If you think they do, then please explain.


1. Ashkenazi Jews and Zionist Jews both of whom are descended from
Jews of ancient Israel have the right to live with other Jews together
in their original homeland if they wish.

2. Israel not only has a right to determine their national religion
but they also have a duty to do so and preserve a place where all
Jews can live free from religious persecution. It is all too obvious
why this is necessary after the mass killings of Jews and unjust
persecution of Jews throughout the Mideast and Europe and Asia.

3. The genetic evidence clearly shows the connection of the
Ashkenazi Jews and Zionist Jews in fact all Jews to their ancient
heritage. It refutes the idiotic claim that Ashkenazi Jews were
descended primarily from the Khazars and that all Jews share a
common religious and genetic heritage related to ancient Israel.


all excellent points. Israel's national internal policies are no one else's business, just as our own here in America. Israel can decide who may live there....who cares - it is a non issue for no reason. Whomever lives there will need to be law abiding like any where else.

why do others assume they have a right to tell Israel what to do with the nation she has created? In America we say if someone does not like it here they are welcome to go - Israel can say the same

to the same anti semitic racists detractors that appear on here over and over again - I can't imagine that you don't have more important things to worry about in your own back yards than trying to tell a sovereign nation what to do ......you sound ridiculous yanno & the racism is vile and ugly

just sayin


flowerforyou

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Wed 12/12/12 06:02 AM

Asked whether, in terms of international law, Israel would not still be held responsible for the Palestinian population, Inbar replied:

There’s no need for us to be responsible for them. I am not prepared to be responsible for the food that comes or does not come to them. It’s their problem, not ours. What, must I take care of the whole world? We left their big cities in 1996 and that’s it…. If they want to be nice to us then we’ll help them, if not then we won’t…. Yes. There would be international pressure and we will withstand it. If the Europeans want to help them, let them help them…. We should not help our enemies.


This represents the situation fairly well.

Israel abandoned the West Bank and Gaza to Palestinian governance
years ago but no real government every took hold. The PLO died with
Arafat and a more corrupt disgusting inept and useless governance
has never existed.

Now different areas are controlled by local gangs and various terrorist
groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad. No one has a clear mandate
and all the areas are ruled through fear, extrajudicial beatings
and killings and threats. All the groups are broke and depend on
smuggling and terrorist support charities most of them rabidly
and baldly antisemitic.

So, Israel takes steps to safeguard their security first and has
to let the various Palestinian warring factions to fight it out
themselves regarding dominance. This is not government of course
but merely mob fiefdom rule. They want a unified state and the
rest of the world would like to see some sort of order there as
well but for now it is a pipe dream.