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Syrian Army Bombs Damascus Suburbs December 07, 2012 Syrian activists say the army has bombed two Damascus suburbs and poured in military reinforcements in an effort to try to reclaim territory controlled by rebels. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said Friday the army fired rockets at the rebel-held Daraya and Moadamiah suburbs southwest of the capital. The group said it feared that troops massing on the suburbs' outskirts could be the prelude to an imminent ground assault. On Thursday, United Nations peace envoy Lakhdar Brahimi said the United States and Russia agree on the need to find a "creative solution" to bring Syria back from the brink. Brahimi held three-way talks with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on the sidelines of a human rights meeting in Dublin earlier Thursday. Meanwhile, U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said that intelligence shows Syrian President Bashar al-Assad may be considering using chemical weapons as rebel successes in the civil war put more and more pressure on his government. The White House has warned Assad that using chemical gas against his own people would be a "red line" for the United States and bring serious consequences. Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Maqdad has told Lebanese television that if Syria had chemical weapons, it would not use them against the Syrian people. He said the West is using threat of chemical weapons as an excuse to intervene. http://www.voanews.com/content/syrian-army-bombs-damascus-suburbs/1560232.html Syrian activists say... Other Syrian activists say otherwise, in fact, one was quoted as saying that ANY positive news pertaining to the Assad government is totally ignored by the western media AND by "human rights" organizations like the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights. Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Maqdad has told Lebanese television that if Syria had chemical weapons, it would not use them against the Syrian people. He said the West is using threat of chemical weapons as an excuse to intervene. True...The US and NATO are itching to stick their forces into Syria, hopefully under a phoney RPT doctrine as an excuse to oust Assad. The propaganda report quoted was about what I would have expected from an "unbiased" propaganda organ like the BBC or the Voice of Ameristan. the Iranian government's perspective would be just as objective as Russia Today's. I'm inclined to agree....They are MUCH more objective & honest than the crap we get here in the west. If you were as informed as you pretend to be then you would know that Assad is being ousted not by the west but by the Saudis. All this drivel about NATO and whatever is nonsense. Good.. Bad.. or Indifferent the Saudis lost a piece on their chessboard, that being Saddam. Now Iraq is under Shia control they will ultimately be steered to Iran. If you know anything about the region then you know that Iran and Saudi Arabia are enemies. Iran's ultimate goal is to take the holy land from the sunnis. Saudi Arabia and UAE will do whatever it takes to keep that from happening. Assad is going down because the Saudis want him gone and Iran loses a piece. |
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..and the Saudi's are supplied weapons by...
On October 20, 2010, U.S. State Department notified Congress of its intention to make the biggest arms sale in American history - an estimated $60.5 billion purchase by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The package represents a considerable improvement in the offensive capability of the Saudi armed forces. The U.S. was keen to point out that the arms transfer would increase "interoperability" with U.S. forces. In the 1990-1991 Gulf War, having U.S.-trained Saudi forces, along with military installations built to U.S. specifications, allowed the American armed forces to deploy in a comfortable and familiar battle environment. This new deal would increase these capabilities, as an advanced American military infrastructure is about to be built |
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Syrian Army Bombs Damascus Suburbs December 07, 2012 Syrian activists say the army has bombed two Damascus suburbs and poured in military reinforcements in an effort to try to reclaim territory controlled by rebels. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said Friday the army fired rockets at the rebel-held Daraya and Moadamiah suburbs southwest of the capital. The group said it feared that troops massing on the suburbs' outskirts could be the prelude to an imminent ground assault. On Thursday, United Nations peace envoy Lakhdar Brahimi said the United States and Russia agree on the need to find a "creative solution" to bring Syria back from the brink. Brahimi held three-way talks with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on the sidelines of a human rights meeting in Dublin earlier Thursday. Meanwhile, U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said that intelligence shows Syrian President Bashar al-Assad may be considering using chemical weapons as rebel successes in the civil war put more and more pressure on his government. The White House has warned Assad that using chemical gas against his own people would be a "red line" for the United States and bring serious consequences. Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Maqdad has told Lebanese television that if Syria had chemical weapons, it would not use them against the Syrian people. He said the West is using threat of chemical weapons as an excuse to intervene. http://www.voanews.com/content/syrian-army-bombs-damascus-suburbs/1560232.html Syrian activists say... Other Syrian activists say otherwise, in fact, one was quoted as saying that ANY positive news pertaining to the Assad government is totally ignored by the western media AND by "human rights" organizations like the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights. Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Maqdad has told Lebanese television that if Syria had chemical weapons, it would not use them against the Syrian people. He said the West is using threat of chemical weapons as an excuse to intervene. True...The US and NATO are itching to stick their forces into Syria, hopefully under a phoney RPT doctrine as an excuse to oust Assad. The propaganda report quoted was about what I would have expected from an "unbiased" propaganda organ like the BBC or the Voice of Ameristan. the Iranian government's perspective would be just as objective as Russia Today's. I'm inclined to agree....They are MUCH more objective & honest than the crap we get here in the west. If you were as informed as you pretend to be then you would know that Assad is being ousted not by the west but by the Saudis. All this drivel about NATO and whatever is nonsense. Good.. Bad.. or Indifferent the Saudis lost a piece on their chessboard, that being Saddam. Now Iraq is under Shia control they will ultimately be steered to Iran. If you know anything about the region then you know that Iran and Saudi Arabia are enemies. Iran's ultimate goal is to take the holy land from the sunnis. Saudi Arabia and UAE will do whatever it takes to keep that from happening. Assad is going down because the Saudis want him gone and Iran loses a piece. That is an astute observation on your part, and perfectly true, but it doesn't convey the whole picture in the game of empire. After the defeat of the Ottoman Empire, the European countries divided up the conquered territory in such a way that old enmities were bound to arise. This is a deliberate tactic to ensure that religious/ethnic infighting in the conquered territory allows for manipulation of the economies & politics of the region. Britain is a master at this, and pulled the trick on India (breaking it into Hindu India, with a large muslim component, Newly formed Pakistan, which is mostly muslim and left them Kashmir to serve as a point of conflict to fight over). It was pulled by the US to break up the former Yugoslavia by playing on and encouraging old enmities (we all know how that turned out). The rivalry between arabs & Persians goes back to ancient times, however Islam proved to be a uniting force, which cannot be allowed, or the Ottomans might "rise again" to challenge European supremacy. Needless to say, since none of them would "dump" Islam, it became necessary to introduce things like israel in the middle for both sides to despise, and then to stir up the differences in Islam to divide the Islamic power of the region, thus dividing them against their common enemy…Divide and conquer…It's an old game, but Europe plays it well. Most recently, Gaddafi stood to unite Africa economically under the Gold Dinar. Africa is seen by the Europeans as their "property", whose resources are to be divvied up in the west. Gaddafi represented a huge threat to the economic annexation of Africa, so he had to "go"…He went with a bang (in the back of the head). |
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Where would this 'news' come from? Press2? Russia Today? Actually it came from an activist for Syria I know personally. He's a reliable source. I see, anecdotal hearsay from just one source. Ok....you can see why I don't really give that any credence. True...The US and NATO are itching to stick their forces into Syria, hopefully under a phoney RPT doctrine as an excuse to oust Assad. Yes, well, just more unsubstantiated opinion. So, you're just clutching at straws based upon your personal prejudices? Hey, that's ok too. My bet is on the fact that the west doesn't intervene, so let's see where that goes, shall we? You lose the bet; they've intervened already. How do you think Al Qaeda wound up in Syria? The Syrian Rebel Army is composed of mostly foreign mercenaries stuck into Syria and funded by the West for the purpose of creating a "humanitarian crisis" that'll "force" NATO to intervene publicly with military action "justified" under the RPT doctrine; which is basically the same crap they pulled on Libya last year. As you stated the the "US and NATO ( US being a redundancy btw)are itching to stick their forces into Syria", there is no sign of that occurring, nor any sign of NATO intending military intervention. Note: "Military" as in Libya. I don't see various governments funding rebels (Saudi Arabia, France etc) or Assad (Russia and Iran)as quite the same as military intervention. Btw, suggesting that Al-Qaeda's presence in Syria is a western contrivance is banal (I suppose there'll be a raft of links to specious blogs and youtube videos that'll 'prove' otherwise). (It looks to me like they are just replaying the old Iraq WMD tapes and dubbing in "Syria") Well, that is an unkown at this point. There was intel some years ago of Saddam shipping what WMD's he had remaining to Assad. I think I figured out where Washington got its foreign policy from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMdnJNl3tBA&feature=player_embedded Oh please, that was pathetic. But you're completely oblivious to the propaganda in the Russia Today report? I'm not oblivious to it. You and I both know that most of the so-called news is just propaganda. I must say though, that Russia Today tends to not produce as much propaganda; it's too busy critically ripping ours apart, factually speaking (which isn't terribly hard to do). 'Russia Today tends not to produce as much propaganda?' So, you're not very adept at textual criticism? I get that. The piece you posted was blatantly so. in effect, you're just using this forum as an excuse to hate on the west. Hey, I was born & raised here. I love the place and the people…It's only the governments that have a bunch of screws loose. Only the western governments? Why are you ignoring Russia and Iran as players in this arena? |
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Where would this 'news' come from? Press2? Russia Today? Actually it came from an activist for Syria I know personally. He's a reliable source. I see, hearsay from just one source. Ok.... True...The US and NATO are itching to stick their forces into Syria, hopefully under a phoney RPT doctrine as an excuse to oust Assad. Yes, well, just more unsubstantiated opinion. So, you're just clutching at straws based upon your personal prejudices? Hey, that's ok too. My bet is on the fact that the west doesn't intervene, so let's see where that goes, shall we? You lose the bet; they've intervened already. How do you think Al Qaeda wound up in Syria? The Syrian Rebel Army is composed of mostly foreign mercenaries stuck into Syria and funded by the West for the purpose of creating a "humanitarian crisis" that'll "force" NATO to intervene publicly with military action "justified" under the RPT doctrine; which is basically the same crap they pulled on Libya last year. No, I don't 'lose (some dumbass) bet, as you stated the the "US and NATO ( US being a redundancy btw)are itching to stick their forces into Syria", there is no sign of that occurring, nor any sign of NATO intending military intervention. (It looks to me like they are just replaying the old Iraq WMD tapes and dubbing in "Syria") Well, that is an unkown at this point. There has been intel some years ago of Saddam shipping what WMD's he had remaining to Assad. I think I figured out where Washington got its foreign policy from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMdnJNl3tBA&feature=player_embedded Oh FFS! That was pathetic. But you're completely oblivious to the propaganda in the Russia Today report? I'm not oblivious to it. You and I both know that most of the so-called news is just propaganda. I must say though, that Russia Today tends to not produce as much propaganda; it's too busy critically ripping ours apart, factually speaking (which isn't terribly hard to do). 'Russia Today tends not to produce as much propaganda?' So, you're not very adept at textual criticism? I get that. in effect, you're just using this forum as an excuse to hate on the west. Hey, I was born & raised here. I love the place and the people…It's only the governments that have a bunch of screws loose. Only the western governments? The Eastern governments have a few loose screws too, but ours are so bad that ALL the screws are either loose, or missing altogether.  |
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Syrian Army Bombs Damascus Suburbs December 07, 2012 Syrian activists say the army has bombed two Damascus suburbs and poured in military reinforcements in an effort to try to reclaim territory controlled by rebels. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said Friday the army fired rockets at the rebel-held Daraya and Moadamiah suburbs southwest of the capital. The group said it feared that troops massing on the suburbs' outskirts could be the prelude to an imminent ground assault. On Thursday, United Nations peace envoy Lakhdar Brahimi said the United States and Russia agree on the need to find a "creative solution" to bring Syria back from the brink. Brahimi held three-way talks with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on the sidelines of a human rights meeting in Dublin earlier Thursday. Meanwhile, U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said that intelligence shows Syrian President Bashar al-Assad may be considering using chemical weapons as rebel successes in the civil war put more and more pressure on his government. The White House has warned Assad that using chemical gas against his own people would be a "red line" for the United States and bring serious consequences. Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Maqdad has told Lebanese television that if Syria had chemical weapons, it would not use them against the Syrian people. He said the West is using threat of chemical weapons as an excuse to intervene. http://www.voanews.com/content/syrian-army-bombs-damascus-suburbs/1560232.html Syrian activists say... Other Syrian activists say otherwise, in fact, one was quoted as saying that ANY positive news pertaining to the Assad government is totally ignored by the western media AND by "human rights" organizations like the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights. Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Maqdad has told Lebanese television that if Syria had chemical weapons, it would not use them against the Syrian people. He said the West is using threat of chemical weapons as an excuse to intervene. True...The US and NATO are itching to stick their forces into Syria, hopefully under a phoney RPT doctrine as an excuse to oust Assad. The propaganda report quoted was about what I would have expected from an "unbiased" propaganda organ like the BBC or the Voice of Ameristan. the Iranian government's perspective would be just as objective as Russia Today's. I'm inclined to agree....They are MUCH more objective & honest than the crap we get here in the west. If you were as informed as you pretend to be then you would know that Assad is being ousted not by the west but by the Saudis. All this drivel about NATO and whatever is nonsense. Good.. Bad.. or Indifferent the Saudis lost a piece on their chessboard, that being Saddam. Now Iraq is under Shia control they will ultimately be steered to Iran. If you know anything about the region then you know that Iran and Saudi Arabia are enemies. Iran's ultimate goal is to take the holy land from the sunnis. Saudi Arabia and UAE will do whatever it takes to keep that from happening. Assad is going down because the Saudis want him gone and Iran loses a piece. Well, the regional power play is quite obvious to most, while the US and Russia also have interests in the outcome of the civil war. However, many seem to ignore importance of the battle between Iran and Saudi Arabia and their efforts to gain primary influence in the Middle East. |
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Syria’s civil war spills into Lebanon again, 4 killed in gun battles
By Associated Press, Dec 09, 2012 08:11 PM EST AP Published: December 9 | Updated: Monday, December 10, 6:11 AM BEIRUT — Syria’s civil war spilled over into neighboring Lebanon once again on Sunday, with gun battles in the northern city of Tripoli between supporters and opponents of President Bashar Assad’s regime that left four dead. Nine Syrian judges and prosecutors also defected to the opposition. It was the latest setback for the regime, which appears increasingly embattled with rebels making gains in northern Syria and near Damascus, the capital. The defecting judges posted a joint statement online urging others to join them and break ranks with Assad’s regime. There have been several high-level defections over the past year, including Assad’s former prime minister. In Geneva, the United Nation’s Special Representative for Syria and the Arab League, Lakdhar Brahimi, met with Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov and U.S. Deputy Secretary of State William Burns to discuss the crisis in Syria. They said in a joint statement that the situation in Syria was “bad and getting worse,” adding that a political process to end the conflict was “still necessary and still possible.” Russia and the United States have argued bitterly over how to address the conflict, which began with peaceful protests against Assad in March 2011 and escalated into a civil war that has killed an estimated 40,000 people. Activists said another 45 were killed on Sunday. The U.S. has criticized Russia for shielding the Assad regime, while Moscow has accused Washington of encouraging the rebels and being intent on regime change. In Moscow, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that Russia agreed to take part in the Geneva talks on condition there would be no demand for Assad to step down. Washington and its allies, including Turkey and Qatar, have repeatedly called on the Syrian president to step down to help stop the bloodshed. “We are not conducting any negotiations on the fate of Assad,” Lavrov said, adding that the Americans were wrong to see Moscow as softening its position on Syria. “All attempts to portray things differently are unscrupulous, even for diplomats of those countries which are known to try to distort the facts in their favor.” Addressing fears that Assad could use chemical weapons in a last-ditch effort to save his regime, Lavrov once again said the Syrian government has given assurances that it has no intention of ever using the weapons of mass destruction. He said the greatest threat is that they would fall into the hands of militants. Russia’s foreign minister said that after he agreed to a U.S. proposal to have his and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s deputies “brainstorm” on Syria, the Americans began to suggest that Russia was softening its position. “No such thing,” Lavrov said. “We have not changed our position.” He urged the international community to come together and “with one voice” to demand a cease-fire, return U.N. observers in bigger numbers and begin a political dialogue. Lavrov repeated that Russia was not wedded to Assad but believed that only the Syrians have the right to choose their leaders. http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russias-lavrov-says-new-syria-talks-to-start-in-geneva-denies-moscow-is-softening-its-stance/2012/12/09/ea3cc242-41ef-11e2-8c8f-fbebf7ccab4e_story.html |
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Hopes US, Russia reconcile on Syria
DateDecember 10, 2012 - 9:23AM AFP Arab League chief Nabil al-Arabi says he hopes the United States and Russia can reconcile their views over Syria in order to facilitate a settlement of the crisis in the war-ravaged country. "Talks between the United States and Russia along with the international envoy (Lakhdar Brahimi) continued in Geneva," Arabi told a meeting of the Arab ministerial committee on Syria held in Doha. US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Thursday met both her Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov and Brahimi in Dublin. Clinton said there had been no "great breakthrough" during those talks, but that there would be further meetings between officials. Arabi said the aim of the US-Russian talks was to "prepare a resolution for the (UN) Security Council" on the Syria crisis. "This resolution will send a clear message to the (Damascus) regime that it is no longer protected." The United Nations said that Brahimi met Russia's deputy foreign minister Mikhail Bogdanov and US deputy secretary of state William Burns in Geneva on Sunday to discuss Syria. "The meeting was constructive and held in a spirit of cooperation," a UN statement said. "It explored avenues to move forward a peaceful process and mobilise greater international action in favour of a political solution to the Syrian crisis." Brahimi, Burns and Bogdanov "reaffirmed their common assessment that the situation in Syria was bad and getting worse. "They stressed that a political process to end the crisis in Syria was necessary and still possible." Russia, along with China, is one of the last supporters of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and has routinely blocked draft Security Council resolutions condemning his rule. In a statement after the Doha meeting, the Arab ministerial committee reiterated a call for Assad to "step down to facilitate the start of a transition of power and end the bloodshed and destruction". The ministers also appealed for humanitarian aid for internally displaced Syrians and refugees, and asked the League secretary general to "prepare a conference on the reconstruction of Syria", post-Assad. Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassem al-Thani, who heads the committee, told a news conference the downfall of Assad's regime was "imminent". Earlier, he described as "unacceptable" Security Council inaction over Syria, where more than 42,000 people have been killed in violence since March 2011, a rights watchdog says. © 2012 AFP http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/hopes-us-russia-reconcile-on-syria-20121210-2b454.html |
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-magnitsky-act-against-russia-washington-accuses-moscow-of-soviet-style-czardom-for-opposing-us-dominance-on-the-global-stage/5314810
This verifies that the rumors are true. After years of sagging ratings, writers of the "Enemies" TV show have recycled an old but very popular plotline for the upcoming TV season. They will be replacing the stale "Terrorism" line with the old but always popular Cold War! Watch next season! It'll be hardly any time at all before they're pointing nukes at each other again! The first episode of the new season will have them going to those zany Defcon levels and scrambling when a janitor accidentally bumps a button in the war room. http://www.globalresearch.ca/potential-military-confrontation-russia-arms-syria-with-powerful-ballistic-missiles/5314850 My Iskander can beat you're Patriots…Nyaa nyaa… Pbbbbbbbtt!! http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/world_news/Middle_East/article1172960.ece Spooky!…Think they're just watching, or are a few of them sticking a few WMDs in their pockets…just in case they need them for a false flag gag to start the party? http://12160.info/photo/the-new-york-times-syrian-rebels-tied-to-al-qaeda-play-key-role-i?context=user You'd think by now the states would know better than to hire the Mujahadeen again…Once burned, twice shy & all that. I guess some regimes just never learn. On the other hand, it may have been a devious ploy to "Have" to go into Syria to fight "terrorism."…Sneaky! http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/12/09/277075/russia-opposes-libyan-scenario-in-syria/ What a bunch of party-poopers…We already brought the fireworks. http://rt.com/usa/news/pentagon-military-mali-us-560/ They haven't even had the party at Syria yet and their already making plans for the next one?…Nobody can say the US isn't a social butterfly…I wonder when they'll be inviting someone to play at their place?…Maybe that's what this new Cold War business is all about…The US & Russia are probably secretly planning to hold the biggest bloc party ever & trying to outdo one another on the fireworks. I'll bet these krazy klowns are planning a fireworks display to light up the faces of people all over the world…literally. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/bashar-alassad-syria-and-the-truth-about-chemical-weapons-8393539.html Don't bother to read the above story…It's just the dull, boring truth…no pizzazz. Oh!…Wait!…STOP THE PRESSES!…We have some REAL NEWS to report, so forget all that previous crap and pay attention to this and only this! (We won't be printing that other stuff now that we have a real story) LOOK!…LOOK!: http://12160.info/group/exposebarackhusseinobama/forum/topics/wh-petition-demands-obama-cancel-hawaii-vacation?overrideMobileRedirect=1 A reliable source has reported that President Obama said "Tell them to %&@* off!! I HAVE to be out of town or those Pentagon clowns will pull a New Year's prank on me and drag me into a bunker." |
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-magnitsky-act-against-russia-washington-accuses-moscow-of-soviet-style-czardom-for-opposing-us-dominance-on-the-global-stage/5314810 This verifies that the rumors are true. After years of sagging ratings, writers of the "Enemies" TV show have recycled an old but very popular plotline for the upcoming TV season. They will be replacing the stale "Terrorism" line with the old but always popular Cold War! Watch next season! It'll be hardly any time at all before they're pointing nukes at each other again! The first episode of the new season will have them going to those zany Defcon levels and scrambling when a janitor accidentally bumps a button in the war room. http://www.globalresearch.ca/potential-military-confrontation-russia-arms-syria-with-powerful-ballistic-missiles/5314850 My Iskander can beat you're Patriots…Nyaa nyaa… Pbbbbbbbtt!! http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/world_news/Middle_East/article1172960.ece Spooky!…Think they're just watching, or are a few of them sticking a few WMDs in their pockets…just in case they need them for a false flag gag to start the party? http://12160.info/photo/the-new-york-times-syrian-rebels-tied-to-al-qaeda-play-key-role-i?context=user You'd think by now the states would know better than to hire the Mujahadeen again…Once burned, twice shy & all that. I guess some regimes just never learn. On the other hand, it may have been a devious ploy to "Have" to go into Syria to fight "terrorism."…Sneaky! http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/12/09/277075/russia-opposes-libyan-scenario-in-syria/ What a bunch of party-poopers…We already brought the fireworks. http://rt.com/usa/news/pentagon-military-mali-us-560/ They haven't even had the party at Syria yet and their already making plans for the next one?…Nobody can say the US isn't a social butterfly…I wonder when they'll be inviting someone to play at their place?…Maybe that's what this new Cold War business is all about…The US & Russia are probably secretly planning to hold the biggest bloc party ever & trying to outdo one another on the fireworks. I'll bet these krazy klowns are planning a fireworks display to light up the faces of people all over the world…literally. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/bashar-alassad-syria-and-the-truth-about-chemical-weapons-8393539.html Don't bother to read the above story…It's just the dull, boring truth…no pizzazz. Oh!…Wait!…STOP THE PRESSES!…We have some REAL NEWS to report, so forget all that previous crap and pay attention to this and only this! (We won't be printing that other stuff now that we have a real story) LOOK!…LOOK!: http://12160.info/group/exposebarackhusseinobama/forum/topics/wh-petition-demands-obama-cancel-hawaii-vacation?overrideMobileRedirect=1 A reliable source has reported that President Obama said "Tell them to %&@* off!! I HAVE to be out of town or those Pentagon clowns will pull a New Year's prank on me and drag me into a bunker." Russia Today, Presstv, Global research & the Independent. The worst the media have to offer all crammed into one silly post. Kudos to you for amassing such a collection of stupidity. 
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UPDATE 1-Russia opposes external political "recipes" for Syria
Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:14am EST * Russia opposes foreign pressure for Assad to go * Moscow rejects Western backing for opposition coalition MOSCOW Dec 10 (Reuters) - Russia said on Monday plans for Syria's political future must not be forced on it from outside, underlining its hostility to foreign pressure for President Bashar al-Assad's exit and to Western backing for an opposition coalition. In a statement about talks on Sunday between international envoy Lakhdar Brahimi and Russian and U.S. officials, the Foreign Ministry reiterated calls for an end to violence and the start of talks on "the parameters of a transition period". It said Russia "stressed that fundamental decisions about reforming Syria's political system ... must be made by Syrians themselves, without outside interference or attempts to force prepared recipes for socio-political development" on them. The United States and its NATO allies have pressed for Assad's departure as part of efforts to end the bloodshed in Syria, but Russia and China have blocked action against the Syrian leader at the U.N. Security Council. The ministry statement called for an immediate end to violence and "the start of a national dialogue during which representatives of the Syrian government and opposition should discuss and agree parameters of a transition period." The statement appeared intended to underline that Russia is committed to helping Brahimi seek a solution to the 21-month conflict that would includes talks on a political transition but also continues to oppose making Assad's exit a precondition. Brahimi is seeking a solution based on a declaration issued on June 30 after international talks in Geneva which called for a transitional government. The proposal foundered at the time over the issue of Assad's fate. Washington said the declaration sent a clear signal that he should quit but Russia said it did nothing of the kind. The Russian statement on Monday also signalled opposition to Western backing of the opposition Syrian National Coalition, which the United States could soon recognise as the sole representative of the Syrian people. http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/10/syria-crisis-russia-idUSL5E8NA3LV20121210 |
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Where would this 'news' come from? Press2? Russia Today? Actually it came from an activist for Syria I know personally. He's a reliable source. I see, hearsay from just one source. Ok.... True...The US and NATO are itching to stick their forces into Syria, hopefully under a phoney RPT doctrine as an excuse to oust Assad. Yes, well, just more unsubstantiated opinion. So, you're just clutching at straws based upon your personal prejudices? Hey, that's ok too. My bet is on the fact that the west doesn't intervene, so let's see where that goes, shall we? You lose the bet; they've intervened already. How do you think Al Qaeda wound up in Syria? The Syrian Rebel Army is composed of mostly foreign mercenaries stuck into Syria and funded by the West for the purpose of creating a "humanitarian crisis" that'll "force" NATO to intervene publicly with military action "justified" under the RPT doctrine; which is basically the same crap they pulled on Libya last year. No, I don't 'lose (some dumbass) bet, as you stated the the "US and NATO ( US being a redundancy btw)are itching to stick their forces into Syria", there is no sign of that occurring, nor any sign of NATO intending military intervention. (It looks to me like they are just replaying the old Iraq WMD tapes and dubbing in "Syria") Well, that is an unkown at this point. There has been intel some years ago of Saddam shipping what WMD's he had remaining to Assad. I think I figured out where Washington got its foreign policy from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMdnJNl3tBA&feature=player_embedded Oh FFS! That was pathetic. But you're completely oblivious to the propaganda in the Russia Today report? I'm not oblivious to it. You and I both know that most of the so-called news is just propaganda. I must say though, that Russia Today tends to not produce as much propaganda; it's too busy critically ripping ours apart, factually speaking (which isn't terribly hard to do). 'Russia Today tends not to produce as much propaganda?' So, you're not very adept at textual criticism? I get that. in effect, you're just using this forum as an excuse to hate on the west. Hey, I was born & raised here. I love the place and the people…It's only the governments that have a bunch of screws loose. Only the western governments? The Eastern governments have a few loose screws too, but ours are so bad that ALL the screws are either loose, or missing altogether. SHEEESH! |
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Being a citizen of the world, and not the territory I live on, I have no civil rights. I'm a duck, so I have no human rights. In fact I have no rights at all except my inherent rights as a sentient being under natural law. Basically, I'm just like everyone else except I haven't been conned into thinking rights come from pieces of paper.
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Where would this 'news' come from? Press2? Russia Today? Actually it came from an activist for Syria I know personally. He's a reliable source. I see, anecdotal hearsay from just one source. Ok....you can see why I don't really give that any credence. True...The US and NATO are itching to stick their forces into Syria, hopefully under a phoney RPT doctrine as an excuse to oust Assad. Yes, well, just more unsubstantiated opinion. So, you're just clutching at straws based upon your personal prejudices? Hey, that's ok too. My bet is on the fact that the west doesn't intervene, so let's see where that goes, shall we? You lose the bet; they've intervened already. How do you think Al Qaeda wound up in Syria? The Syrian Rebel Army is composed of mostly foreign mercenaries stuck into Syria and funded by the West for the purpose of creating a "humanitarian crisis" that'll "force" NATO to intervene publicly with military action "justified" under the RPT doctrine; which is basically the same crap they pulled on Libya last year. As you stated the the "US and NATO ( US being a redundancy btw)are itching to stick their forces into Syria", there is no sign of that occurring, nor any sign of NATO intending military intervention. Note: "Military" as in Libya. I don't see various governments funding rebels (Saudi Arabia, France etc) or Assad (Russia and Iran)as quite the same as military intervention. Btw, suggesting that Al-Qaeda's presence in Syria is a western contrivance is banal (I suppose there'll be a raft of links to specious blogs and youtube videos that'll 'prove' otherwise). (It looks to me like they are just replaying the old Iraq WMD tapes and dubbing in "Syria") Well, that is an unkown at this point. There was intel some years ago of Saddam shipping what WMD's he had remaining to Assad. I think I figured out where Washington got its foreign policy from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMdnJNl3tBA&feature=player_embedded Oh please, that was pathetic. But you're completely oblivious to the propaganda in the Russia Today report? I'm not oblivious to it. You and I both know that most of the so-called news is just propaganda. I must say though, that Russia Today tends to not produce as much propaganda; it's too busy critically ripping ours apart, factually speaking (which isn't terribly hard to do). 'Russia Today tends not to produce as much propaganda?' So, you're not very adept at textual criticism? I get that. The piece you posted was blatantly so. in effect, you're just using this forum as an excuse to hate on the west. Hey, I was born & raised here. I love the place and the people…It's only the governments that have a bunch of screws loose. Only the western governments? Why are you ignoring Russia and Iran as players in this arena? |
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-magnitsky-act-against-russia-washington-accuses-moscow-of-soviet-style-czardom-for-opposing-us-dominance-on-the-global-stage/5314810 This verifies that the rumors are true. After years of sagging ratings, writers of the "Enemies" TV show have recycled an old but very popular plotline for the upcoming TV season. They will be replacing the stale "Terrorism" line with the old but always popular Cold War! Watch next season! It'll be hardly any time at all before they're pointing nukes at each other again! The first episode of the new season will have them going to those zany Defcon levels and scrambling when a janitor accidentally bumps a button in the war room. http://www.globalresearch.ca/potential-military-confrontation-russia-arms-syria-with-powerful-ballistic-missiles/5314850 My Iskander can beat you're Patriots…Nyaa nyaa… Pbbbbbbbtt!! http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/world_news/Middle_East/article1172960.ece Spooky!…Think they're just watching, or are a few of them sticking a few WMDs in their pockets…just in case they need them for a false flag gag to start the party? http://12160.info/photo/the-new-york-times-syrian-rebels-tied-to-al-qaeda-play-key-role-i?context=user You'd think by now the states would know better than to hire the Mujahadeen again…Once burned, twice shy & all that. I guess some regimes just never learn. On the other hand, it may have been a devious ploy to "Have" to go into Syria to fight "terrorism."…Sneaky! http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/12/09/277075/russia-opposes-libyan-scenario-in-syria/ What a bunch of party-poopers…We already brought the fireworks. http://rt.com/usa/news/pentagon-military-mali-us-560/ They haven't even had the party at Syria yet and their already making plans for the next one?…Nobody can say the US isn't a social butterfly…I wonder when they'll be inviting someone to play at their place?…Maybe that's what this new Cold War business is all about…The US & Russia are probably secretly planning to hold the biggest bloc party ever & trying to outdo one another on the fireworks. I'll bet these krazy klowns are planning a fireworks display to light up the faces of people all over the world…literally. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/bashar-alassad-syria-and-the-truth-about-chemical-weapons-8393539.html Don't bother to read the above story…It's just the dull, boring truth…no pizzazz. Oh!…Wait!…STOP THE PRESSES!…We have some REAL NEWS to report, so forget all that previous crap and pay attention to this and only this! (We won't be printing that other stuff now that we have a real story) LOOK!…LOOK!: http://12160.info/group/exposebarackhusseinobama/forum/topics/wh-petition-demands-obama-cancel-hawaii-vacation?overrideMobileRedirect=1 A reliable source has reported that President Obama said "Tell them to %&@* off!! I HAVE to be out of town or those Pentagon clowns will pull a New Year's prank on me and drag me into a bunker." Russia Today, Presstv, Global research & the Independent. The worst the media have to offer all crammed into one silly post. Kudos to you for amassing such a collection of stupidity.  Holy Crap,now THAT's a Conglomerate of Disinformation and CT! |
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Being a citizen of the world, and not the territory I live on, I have no civil rights. I'm a duck, so I have no human rights. In fact I have no rights at all except my inherent rights as a sentient being under natural law. Basically, I'm just like everyone else except I haven't been conned into thinking rights come from pieces of paper.
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Being a citizen of the world, and not the territory I live on, I have no civil rights. I'm a duck, so I have no human rights. In fact I have no rights at all except my inherent rights as a sentient being under natural law. Basically, I'm just like everyone else except I haven't been conned into thinking rights come from pieces of paper. As a duck I don't need one...I have the inherent right to come & go as I please. I haven't been stopped by customs yet when crossing the border. (been shot at a few times and more often lately, but I think people are mistaking me for one of those new drones monitoring everyone...memo to me...must quack more.) However, if I did need a passport, I'd probably get Garry Davis's World Passport. He's one of the few people of your species that I kinda like...He has the right idea. http://www.onefilms.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQJMWYGuyac http://www.worldservice.org/gdblog.html |
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Being a citizen of the world, and not the territory I live on, I have no civil rights. I'm a duck, so I have no human rights. In fact I have no rights at all except my inherent rights as a sentient being under natural law. Basically, I'm just like everyone else except I haven't been conned into thinking rights come from pieces of paper. As a duck I don't need one...I have the inherent right to come & go as I please. I haven't been stopped by customs yet when crossing the border. (been shot at a few times and more often lately, but I think people are mistaking me for one of those new drones monitoring everyone...memo to me...must quack more.) However, if I did need a passport, I'd probably get Garry Davis's World Passport. He's one of the few people of your species that I kinda like...He has the right idea. http://www.onefilms.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQJMWYGuyac http://www.worldservice.org/gdblog.html That's cool. I want to be a citizen of the world too. |
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oops...bug in the system...Mingle can't handle https links.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQJMWYGuyac |
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