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Topic: Syria Weaponizing Chemical Weapons
Lpdon's photo
Wed 12/05/12 11:13 PM
Syrian forces have mixed chemical weapons and loaded them into bombs in preparation for possible use on President Bashar Assad's own people, Fox News confirms.

A senior U.S. official told Fox News that bombs were loaded with components of sarin gas, a deadly nerve gas. Syrian forces have 60 days to use these bombs until the chemical mixture expires and has to be destroyed.

NBC News, which first reported this latest escalation in the Syrian civil war, cited sources saying bombs filled with a sarin component have not yet been loaded onto planes, but the Syrian military is prepared to use these chemical weapons against civilians pending orders from Assad.

The sarin could be delivered in several ways but is believed to have been placed in fracturable canisters that can be dropped from planes, according to a senior US military source.

"We think they have it in aerosol form," the source told Fox News.

The United States has said chemical weapons use would be unacceptable and would trigger greater Western intervention in the conflict.

The US military is making contingency plans should Assad leave suddenly. Various Middle Eastern countries are trying to find a place to give Assad asylum, according to Middle Eastern diplomatic sources.

In Brussels earlier Wednesday, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton reiterated concerns that "an increasingly desperate Assad regime might turn to chemical weapons" or lose control of them to militant groups.

She also said NATO's decision on Tuesday to send Patriot missiles to Turkey's southern border with Syria sends a message that Ankara is backed by its allies. The missiles are intended only for defensive purposes, she said.

Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu was quoted Wednesday in the Turkish newspaper Sabah as saying that Syria has about 700 missiles, some of them long-range.

Gunmen loyal to opposite sides in Syria's civil war battled Wednesday in the streets of the Lebanese city of Tripoli. The fighting has killed six people and wounded nearly 60 since Monday, security officials said.

The bloodshed is a sign of just how vulnerable Lebanon is to getting sucked into the Syrian crisis. The countries share a porous border and a complex web of political and sectarian ties that is easily enflamed.

The Lebanese men killed in Syria were Sunni Muslims, like the majority of rebels trying to overthrow Assad's regime. Assad and much of his inner circle belong to the Alawite sect, which is an offshoot of Shiite Islam.

The fighting in Lebanon comes at a time of deep uncertainty in Syria, with rebels battling government troops near Assad's seat of power in Damascus.

Syria has been careful not to confirm it has chemical weapons, while insisting it would never use such weapons against its own people.

But as the regime wobbles, there are fears the crisis will keep spiraling outside its borders. Fighting has spilled over into Turkey, Jordan and Israel since the uprising began more than 20 months ago, but Lebanon is particularly susceptible.

Seventeen times bigger than Lebanon and four times more populous, Syria has long had powerful allies there, including the Iran-backed militant group Hezbollah. For much of the past 30 years, Lebanese have lived under Syrian military and political domination.

Meanwhile, the unrest inside Syria shows no sign of slowing down.

The uprising began with peaceful protests in March 2011 and later escalated into a civil war that the opposition says has killed more than 40,000 people.

Besides the violence roiling the capital, Damascus, there was growing speculation about the fate of a top Syrian spokesman who has become a prominent face of the regime.

Lebanese security officials have said Foreign Ministry spokesman Jihad Makdissi flew Monday from Beirut to London. But it was not clear whether Makdissi had defected, quit his post or been forced out. Syria has had no official comment on Makdissi, who has defended the regime's crackdown on dissent.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/12/05/syria-mixes-chemical-weapons-into-bombs/#ixzz2EFmhPrd6

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 12/06/12 01:03 AM
wouldn't surprise me,considering what Assad's Brainbrother Saddam Hussein did to his own people!

smart2009's photo
Thu 12/06/12 02:20 AM
NATO foreign ministers have approved Turkey's request for Patriot missiles to defend its borders, a statement of "solidarity" with its fellow alliance member.
"Today NATO agreed to augment Turkey's air defense by deploying Patriot missiles to Turkey. Turkey has asked for NATO's support and we stand with Turkey in the spirit ofstrong solidarity," said NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen.
"To Turkish people we say, we are determined to defend you and your territory. To anyone who would want to attack Turkey, we say, don't even think about it. "
Turkey asked NATO to deploy Patriot missiles along its border to bolster its air defenses against Syrian threats.

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Thu 12/06/12 11:00 AM
If the Syrian government is doing anything with its chemical weapons, it is loading them on to missiles to retaliate against the NATO forces if they attack.

NATO has been providing the "rebel" mercenary forces and the weaponry & propaganda that goes with them in order to attack under the "responsibility to protect" doctrine that always kills the people they are trying to "protect" in the first place. (One wonders if they are being killed by foreign forces to protect them from being killed by domestic ones...Maybe it's time to rethink the RPT doctrine?)

Frankly I'm sick of all the lying propaganda to get us to believe our side is the "good guys" going to fight the "bad guys." On the face of it, I suppose its "necessary" to preserve the hegemonic status quo, but the idea of killing people to save people for whatever reason is logically, morally, and militarily inconsistent with reason. It never ceases to amaze me that people actually swallow the propaganda and live a life of cognitive dissonance.

Simply put there ARE NO GOOD GUYS who would favour ANY war, no matter how "evil" the "bad guy" is. All wars are fought where BOTH sides think they are the good guys, but act like the bad guys. If we could do a 180° switch and realized that we are ALL the bad guys, but acted like good guys we might finally get somewhere.

After all these thousands of years of playing "follow the leader", I think it's time we marched to a different drummer than the one banging the drums of war, and walked in the other direction when our crooked leaders direct us to the next front line.

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 12/06/12 12:06 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 12/06/12 12:34 PM

If the Syrian government is doing anything with its chemical weapons, it is loading them on to missiles to retaliate against the NATO forces if they attack.

NATO has been providing the "rebel" mercenary forces and the weaponry & propaganda that goes with them in order to attack under the "responsibility to protect" doctrine that always kills the people they are trying to "protect" in the first place. (One wonders if they are being killed by foreign forces to protect them from being killed by domestic ones...Maybe it's time to rethink the RPT doctrine?)

Frankly I'm sick of all the lying propaganda to get us to believe our side is the "good guys" going to fight the "bad guys." On the face of it, I suppose its "necessary" to preserve the hegemonic status quo, but the idea of killing people to save people for whatever reason is logically, morally, and militarily inconsistent with reason. It never ceases to amaze me that people actually swallow the propaganda and live a life of cognitive dissonance.

Simply put there ARE NO GOOD GUYS who would favour ANY war, no matter how "evil" the "bad guy" is. All wars are fought where BOTH sides think they are the good guys, but act like the bad guys. If we could do a 180° switch and realized that we are ALL the bad guys, but acted like good guys we might finally get somewhere.

After all these thousands of years of playing "follow the leader", I think it's time we marched to a different drummer than the one banging the drums of war, and walked in the other direction when our crooked leaders direct us to the next front line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hama_massacre

yep,Lenin was right!

they will be burying the West,and the West will be digging,and already is digging the Pit!


Like Old Nikita said,We gonna Bury You,and now the West says,Oh no,we'll do it ourselves!

smart2009's photo
Thu 12/06/12 12:56 PM


If the Syrian government is doing anything with its chemical weapons, it is loading them on to missiles to retaliate against the NATO forces if they attack.

NATO has been providing the "rebel" mercenary forces and the weaponry & propaganda that goes with them in order to attack under the "responsibility to protect" doctrine that always kills the people they are trying to "protect" in the first place. (One wonders if they are being killed by foreign forces to protect them from being killed by domestic ones...Maybe it's time to rethink the RPT doctrine?)

Frankly I'm sick of all the lying propaganda to get us to believe our side is the "good guys" going to fight the "bad guys." On the face of it, I suppose its "necessary" to preserve the hegemonic status quo, but the idea of killing people to save people for whatever reason is logically, morally, and militarily inconsistent with reason. It never ceases to amaze me that people actually swallow the propaganda and live a life of cognitive dissonance.

Simply put there ARE NO GOOD GUYS who would favour ANY war, no matter how "evil" the "bad guy" is. All wars are fought where BOTH sides think they are the good guys, but act like the bad guys. If we could do a 180° switch and realized that we are ALL the bad guys, but acted like good guys we might finally get somewhere.

After all these thousands of years of playing "follow the leader", I think it's time we marched to a different drummer than the one banging the drums of war, and walked in the other direction when our crooked leaders direct us to the next front line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hama_massacre

yep,Lenin was right!




Like Old Nikita said,We gonna Bury You.
Where is the info from?

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Thu 12/06/12 05:32 PM



If the Syrian government is doing anything with its chemical weapons, it is loading them on to missiles to retaliate against the NATO forces if they attack.

NATO has been providing the "rebel" mercenary forces and the weaponry & propaganda that goes with them in order to attack under the "responsibility to protect" doctrine that always kills the people they are trying to "protect" in the first place. (One wonders if they are being killed by foreign forces to protect them from being killed by domestic ones...Maybe it's time to rethink the RPT doctrine?)

Frankly I'm sick of all the lying propaganda to get us to believe our side is the "good guys" going to fight the "bad guys." On the face of it, I suppose its "necessary" to preserve the hegemonic status quo, but the idea of killing people to save people for whatever reason is logically, morally, and militarily inconsistent with reason. It never ceases to amaze me that people actually swallow the propaganda and live a life of cognitive dissonance.

Simply put there ARE NO GOOD GUYS who would favour ANY war, no matter how "evil" the "bad guy" is. All wars are fought where BOTH sides think they are the good guys, but act like the bad guys. If we could do a 180° switch and realized that we are ALL the bad guys, but acted like good guys we might finally get somewhere.

After all these thousands of years of playing "follow the leader", I think it's time we marched to a different drummer than the one banging the drums of war, and walked in the other direction when our crooked leaders direct us to the next front line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hama_massacre

yep,Lenin was right!




Like Old Nikita said,We gonna Bury You.
Where is the info from?


It's from a visit Nikita made to the US backk in 1959 when he visited Disneyland. Americans took it as a nuclear threat, but it was really meant as "Our system will outlive yours."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you


smart2009's photo
Thu 12/06/12 10:29 PM




If the Syrian government is doing anything with its chemical weapons, it is loading them on to missiles to retaliate against the NATO forces if they attack.

NATO has been providing the "rebel" mercenary forces and the weaponry & propaganda that goes with them in order to attack under the "responsibility to protect" doctrine that always kills the people they are trying to "protect" in the first place. (One wonders if they are being killed by foreign forces to protect them from being killed by domestic ones...Maybe it's time to rethink the RPT doctrine?)

Frankly I'm sick of all the lying propaganda to get us to believe our side is the "good guys" going to fight the "bad guys." On the face of it, I suppose its "necessary" to preserve the hegemonic status quo, but the idea of killing people to save people for whatever reason is logically, morally, and militarily inconsistent with reason. It never ceases to amaze me that people actually swallow the propaganda and live a life of cognitive dissonance.

Simply put there ARE NO GOOD GUYS who would favour ANY war, no matter how "evil" the "bad guy" is. All wars are fought where BOTH sides think they are the good guys, but act like the bad guys. If we could do a 180° switch and realized that we are ALL the bad guys, but acted like good guys we might finally get somewhere.

After all these thousands of years of playing "follow the leader", I think it's time we marched to a different drummer than the one banging the drums of war, and walked in the other direction when our crooked leaders direct us to the next front line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hama_massacre

yep,Lenin was right!




Like Old Nikita said,We gonna Bury You.
Where is the info from?


It's from a visit Nikita made to the US backk in 1959 when he visited Disneyland. Americans took it as a nuclear threat, but it was really meant as "Our system will outlive yours."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you



drinker

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 12/07/12 12:09 AM





If the Syrian government is doing anything with its chemical weapons, it is loading them on to missiles to retaliate against the NATO forces if they attack.

NATO has been providing the "rebel" mercenary forces and the weaponry & propaganda that goes with them in order to attack under the "responsibility to protect" doctrine that always kills the people they are trying to "protect" in the first place. (One wonders if they are being killed by foreign forces to protect them from being killed by domestic ones...Maybe it's time to rethink the RPT doctrine?)

Frankly I'm sick of all the lying propaganda to get us to believe our side is the "good guys" going to fight the "bad guys." On the face of it, I suppose its "necessary" to preserve the hegemonic status quo, but the idea of killing people to save people for whatever reason is logically, morally, and militarily inconsistent with reason. It never ceases to amaze me that people actually swallow the propaganda and live a life of cognitive dissonance.

Simply put there ARE NO GOOD GUYS who would favour ANY war, no matter how "evil" the "bad guy" is. All wars are fought where BOTH sides think they are the good guys, but act like the bad guys. If we could do a 180° switch and realized that we are ALL the bad guys, but acted like good guys we might finally get somewhere.

After all these thousands of years of playing "follow the leader", I think it's time we marched to a different drummer than the one banging the drums of war, and walked in the other direction when our crooked leaders direct us to the next front line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hama_massacre

yep,Lenin was right!




Like Old Nikita said,We gonna Bury You.
Where is the info from?


It's from a visit Nikita made to the US backk in 1959 when he visited Disneyland. Americans took it as a nuclear threat, but it was really meant as "Our system will outlive yours."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you



drinker
yep,and thanks to those "Misguided Ones" it has and is killing us!

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Fri 12/07/12 01:09 AM
Syrian forces have mixed chemical weapons and loaded them into bombs in preparation for possible use on President Bashar Assad's own people, Fox News confirms.


The Dictator's last stand, perhaps?

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Fri 12/07/12 02:51 PM

Syrian forces have mixed chemical weapons and loaded them into bombs in preparation for possible use on President Bashar Assad's own people, Fox News confirms.


The Dictator's last stand, perhaps?



Gimme a break!...It was "confirmed" by Fox News...Who believes anything they have to say?

I heard Faux won a lawsuit filed against them for falsifying the news...because the judge ruled that there is no law stating that "news" must be true!

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Fri 12/07/12 08:50 PM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Fri 12/07/12 08:51 PM
"Syria stresses again, for the tenth, the hundredth time, that if we had such weapons, they would not be used against its people. We would not commit suicide," said Madqaq.

Madqaq instead alleged that the US and its European allies may have actually given chemical weapons to "terrorist organizations in Syria, in order to claim later that Syria is the one that used these weapons."

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/middle-east/syria/121206/syria-chemical-weapons-reports-part-western-conspirac

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Sun 12/09/12 02:43 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sun 12/09/12 03:14 PM


Syrian forces have mixed chemical weapons and loaded them into bombs in preparation for possible use on President Bashar Assad's own people, Fox News confirms.


The Dictator's last stand, perhaps?



Gimme a break!...It was "confirmed" by Fox News...Who believes anything they have to say?



Gimme a break! It's not the only source. I don't even use Fox news. slaphead

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Sun 12/09/12 06:14 PM



Syrian forces have mixed chemical weapons and loaded them into bombs in preparation for possible use on President Bashar Assad's own people, Fox News confirms.


The Dictator's last stand, perhaps?



Gimme a break!...It was "confirmed" by Fox News...Who believes anything they have to say?



Gimme a break! It's not the only source. I don't even use Fox news. slaphead


Yeah, but you should know that unnamed sources of any kind are not to be believed. That story is a "standard" propaganda piece passed to all the news agencies. You should know that...and I'm sure you do.

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Mon 12/10/12 02:29 AM




Syrian forces have mixed chemical weapons and loaded them into bombs in preparation for possible use on President Bashar Assad's own people, Fox News confirms.


The Dictator's last stand, perhaps?



Gimme a break!...It was "confirmed" by Fox News...Who believes anything they have to say?



Gimme a break! It's not the only source. I don't even use Fox news. slaphead


Yeah, but you should know that unnamed sources of any kind are not to be believed. That story is a "standard" propaganda piece passed to all the news agencies. You should know that...and I'm sure you do.


Note my post: The dictator's last stand, perhaps?

I don't discount it as a possibility when Assad runs out of options. You should know that....and I'm sure you do.

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 12/10/12 02:51 AM




Syrian forces have mixed chemical weapons and loaded them into bombs in preparation for possible use on President Bashar Assad's own people, Fox News confirms.


The Dictator's last stand, perhaps?



Gimme a break!...It was "confirmed" by Fox News...Who believes anything they have to say?



Gimme a break! It's not the only source. I don't even use Fox news. slaphead


Yeah, but you should know that unnamed sources of any kind are not to be believed. That story is a "standard" propaganda piece passed to all the news agencies. You should know that...and I'm sure you do.
yep,it's another Conspiracy of those Propagandists,but we can believe those from the East,they are above reproach!pitchfork

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Mon 12/10/12 02:54 AM





Syrian forces have mixed chemical weapons and loaded them into bombs in preparation for possible use on President Bashar Assad's own people, Fox News confirms.


The Dictator's last stand, perhaps?



Gimme a break!...It was "confirmed" by Fox News...Who believes anything they have to say?



Gimme a break! It's not the only source. I don't even use Fox news. slaphead


Yeah, but you should know that unnamed sources of any kind are not to be believed. That story is a "standard" propaganda piece passed to all the news agencies. You should know that...and I'm sure you do.
yep,it's another Conspiracy of those Propagandists,but we can believe those from the East,they are above reproach!pitchfork


Especially RT & Presstv. laugh They are completely objective; free from gubernatorial influence, and their host nations have no interest in the conflict.

Oops, I should note that the above is 'sarcasm'.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 12/10/12 02:13 PM
I think this is just a bluff by Assad to scare his people into check.

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Mon 12/10/12 11:38 PM

I think this is just a bluff by Assad to scare his people into check.


I think it's a setup for a military intervention into Syria to be based possibly on a false flag chemical attack or another "Iraqi WMD" schtick that will "justify" the intervention under the RPT doctrine.

Basically the same old crap in a different pile.

Lpdon's photo
Tue 12/11/12 12:31 AM


I think this is just a bluff by Assad to scare his people into check.


I think it's a setup for a military intervention into Syria to be based possibly on a false flag chemical attack or another "Iraqi WMD" schtick that will "justify" the intervention under the RPT doctrine.

Basically the same old crap in a different pile.


False flag? Saddam admitted during interviews with the FBI that he was developing and would NEVER stop developing nuclear weapons.

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