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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Tue 08/13/13 08:47 AM
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People are taught to believe that it is all about religion, when actually it's about the feeling of superiority of some over others, struggle for power over people, land, etc. and believing God Almighty loves them best. God is no respecter of persons, he allows it to rain on the just and the unjust. Until people realize that we all descended from one set of parents and that we are all brothers and sisters, war will continue, possibly to the destruction of most of the human race. Oh man's inhumanity to man!! How hate drives people. I guess most people forget we were made from the dust of the earth and will return to it one day. If everyone became as little children with humble forgiving and loving hearts, what a wonderful world this would be. At the same time, people could grow up and evolve spiritually and stop killing each other just because their masters tell them to. Becoming "as little children" is not the answer because they are innocent with no wisdom. I don't think we are made from dust. Our bodies are perhaps. But our spirit is eternal. We are not merely our bodies. |
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We have been led to believe that wars are about religious differences. Really? Do you think it is, really? Why would one person care what another person's religious beliefs are? I would like to know why Israel always seems to be smack in the center of every major conflict and war on earth. Is it really about religion? If so, then I want to know what is so horrible about the Jewish religion or any religion that people will spend generations killing each other over it. So let's hear your opinions. What is it about Israel's religion, that Muslims hate so much? What is it about Muslims religion that you say makes them hate Israel so much? If it is really about "religion" then lets discuss the religious points that are so crucial that two groups will spend generations killing each other. Both religions, even the Christian religion, are all derived from the same Book. THE BIBLE. So what, pray tell, is the big fat disagreement? I am not affiliated with any religion. I don't understand the hatred in the world and I don't understand why everyone blames it on "Oh they hate my religion." Why would my religion or lack thereof, cause a person to hate or fear me? The Jews the New Believers and the Arabs untill around 666/667ad got along fairly well. The Dome of the Rock The Jews say the Rock thats in thier is where Isaac was to be sacraficed and the Arabs say Ishmael. The Arabs when they started war against anyone not islam was when they say Mohammad assended into Heaven where the Dome of the Rock is. Mohammad seems to be when real problems start. Jerusalem has been a Holy site for a very long time. It was Salem to begin with. Gen 14:18-20 Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was the priest of God Most High. 19 And he blessed him and said: "Blessed be Abram of God Most High, Possessor of heaven and earth; 20 And blessed be God Most High, Who has delivered your enemies into your hand." NKJV This was after the Slaughter of the Kings. A High priest of Jerusalem was apperently well known and Arabs and jews alike and new believers claim Abraham because he got the Promice his descendents would be as the stars of heaven. Everyone wants and claims this promice. The Dome on the Rock and Jerusalem are Holy to several Billion people. But if you look at History the Jews and Arabs did not go at it untill the Koran came into existance from Mohammad I would assume. Yet the christians did the same thing in the crusades claiming to kill you was doing you a favor and everyone else. they got this from a small verse in the NT. John 8:24 24 Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins." NKJV I am not completely sure this is the verse the Pope used to burn people to death but i am sure it was something like this. The Pope though used this that if you did not follow Romes way of The Religion it is better for you to die than live so they tried burning people at the stake that they could be saved. Milions of people were killed if they did not follow Romes edicts. Looking at that modern Islam has killed alot less people than christianity has. Both use certain laws verses to justify killing. No better way to kill in the Dark ages than with a uniform wiith a large cross on the front of it. I am sure it made people feel better huh. |
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Killing in the name of any God or religious agenda is EVIL.
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Killing in the name of any God or religious agenda is EVIL. Yea I agree JB |
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I don't believe war is over religion anymore.
Sadly, even though that was bad enough, truly my instincts tell me it's more about the elite of the world making money off of war. For several years now, they've used the media to propagandize and make people believe that other humans in a different country we've never been to are evil and corrupt. And sadly still this brainwashing still works. I don't believe everything I see on TV anymore. ;-) |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sat 08/17/13 12:56 PM
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I don't believe war is over religion anymore. Sadly, even though that was bad enough, truly my instincts tell me it's more about the elite of the world making money off of war. For several years now, they've used the media to propagandize and make people believe that other humans in a different country we've never been to are evil and corrupt. And sadly still this brainwashing still works. I don't believe everything I see on TV anymore. ;-) Good, so you have just recently woke up. They have been doing this for many years. As you can see by my icon picture, I've decided to go back to sleep. To hell with all of them.. zzzzzzz |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sat 08/17/13 01:15 PM
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war is about two philosophies,,
1: we want to keep something (our power/authority/privilege/wealth/territory,,,etc,,etc,,) 2. we don't want to lose something (our power/authority/privilege/wealth/territory,,,etc,,etc,,) doesn't get simpler than that |
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I don't believe war is over religion anymore. Sadly, even though that was bad enough, truly my instincts tell me it's more about the elite of the world making money off of war. For several years now, they've used the media to propagandize and make people believe that other humans in a different country we've never been to are evil and corrupt. And sadly still this brainwashing still works. I don't believe everything I see on TV anymore. ;-) Good, so you have just recently woke up. They have been doing this for many years. As you can see by my icon picture, I've decided to go back to sleep. To hell with all of them.. zzzzzzz I'd been awake for a good while now. Hope you had a good nap. |
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war is about two philosophies,, 1: we want to keep something (our power/authority/privilege/wealth/territory,,,etc,,etc,,) 2. we don't want to lose something (our power/authority/privilege/wealth/territory,,,etc,,etc,,) doesn't get simpler than that I think that pretty much covers it, MS! Well put! |
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I don't believe war is over religion anymore. Sadly, even though that was bad enough, truly my instincts tell me it's more about the elite of the world making money off of war. For several years now, they've used the media to propagandize and make people believe that other humans in a different country we've never been to are evil and corrupt. And sadly still this brainwashing still works. I don't believe everything I see on TV anymore. ;-) Good, so you have just recently woke up. They have been doing this for many years. As you can see by my icon picture, I've decided to go back to sleep. To hell with all of them.. zzzzzzz I'd been awake for a good while now. Hope you had a good nap. When to get to a certain age, naps are good. The rest of the time you just sit on the porch an watch the world go by. |
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I'm 41, and prone to naps throughout the day
sometimes. Haha! I saw you're profile. You're not that old. |
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Most conflict is caused by the basic formula: "Us" vs "Them", however you want to dress it up in excuses -Agree! :) HUmans are bOrn with differences and conflicts and iT's all normal to Us as a creation of GOd but the main point of it is On hOw ''WE'' depend on God's dealing and leading for us. |
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It depends on the war you're talking about.
Some wars are about religion. Some wars are about pizza. Other wars are wars for control of Mountain Dew against those darn Mountain Dew stealing aliens. And some wars are just about war. Every war has it's own reason. |
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War is just a big fight. There is no 'solution'. Religion is just a popular basis for culture clashes, but by no means the only one.
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War is just a big fight. There is no 'solution'. Religion is just a popular basis for culture clashes, but by no means the only one. The 'solution' to 'war' is to just say NO. Say no to the military. Say no to killing. Say no to governments. JUST SAY NO. |
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War is just a big fight. There is no 'solution'. Religion is just a popular basis for culture clashes, but by no means the only one. The 'solution' to 'war' is to just say NO. Say no to the military. Say no to killing. Say no to governments. JUST SAY NO. |
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war is about two philosophies,, 1: we want to keep something (our power/authority/privilege/wealth/territory,,,etc,,etc,,) 2. we don't want to lose something (our power/authority/privilege/wealth/territory,,,etc,,etc,,) doesn't get simpler than that |
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war is about two philosophies,, 1: we want to keep something (our power/authority/privilege/wealth/territory,,,etc,,etc,,) 2. we don't want to lose something (our power/authority/privilege/wealth/territory,,,etc,,etc,,) doesn't get simpler than that You forgot number three. They have something we don't have and we want it. |
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war is about two philosophies,, 1: we want to keep something (our power/authority/privilege/wealth/territory,,,etc,,etc,,) 2. we don't want to lose something (our power/authority/privilege/wealth/territory,,,etc,,etc,,) doesn't get simpler than that You forgot number three. They have something we don't have and we want it. |
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war is about two philosophies,, 1: we want to keep something (our power/authority/privilege/wealth/territory,,,etc,,etc,,) 2. we don't want to lose something (our power/authority/privilege/wealth/territory,,,etc,,etc,,) doesn't get simpler than that You forgot number three. They have something we don't have and we want it. Yep, like oil. Land, energy, gold, water, etc. |
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