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Topic: And so it begins
msharmony's photo
Sat 11/10/12 07:36 AM

These kinds of knee jerk reactions from people and particularly the stock market are negative fear based reactions based on fear.

We (all people) need to stop reacting or making decisions based on fear of what "might" happen and begin making decisions to adjust for actual events and actual problems.





this I can agree with,,,time to do the actual 'work' and less of the backseat driving criticizing,,

u are either part of the problem or part of the solution, I think we need to start making sure we elect politicians who are trying to be solutions instead of trying to create problems...

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 11/10/12 07:38 AM








Companies are giving notices to employees that they will be layed off.
Because of the impending taxes and costs of the affordable healthcare act companies are laying people of in droves.
Way to go America.



well, whats to be expected? their millionaire ceos take paycuts?...

nope, those folks who just want 'stuff' will be made to pay


so those who already have the 'stuff' can hang on to it and attain more,,,

All the ceo's are millionaires?
There are a lot of small businesses that will be forced to close down because of this.


because OBama was reelected? certainly not.....


no business closes down because of who is elected President, its just not that simple,,,

Did you read any of the links posted as to why they are doing it?
It's because of this administrations tax plan, regulations, and the affordable healthcare act.
That's the reason businesses are doing this.
So yes you could say in part because he was reelected. There is no chance to change. This administrations policies are not business friendly.


the president doesnt set taxes by himself, we have a checks and balances government,,

so , no, its not as simple as who the president is

the congress plays a big part that people continuously ignore in their whinging about laws, taxes, and regulations,,,,

Who signs these into law?



a president signs the laws CONGRESS puts forth

so, its not an issua as simple as who the president is (especially since this president RARELY uses veto)


and a Slew more by Presidential Order!

But why worry?
It's all over 21th next month anyhoo!laugh

no photo
Sat 11/10/12 07:50 AM


Companies are giving notices to employees that they will be layed off.
Because of the impending taxes and costs of the affordable healthcare act companies are laying people of in droves.
Way to go America.


In my state the big news is that we are adding jobs. Guess it depends on 1 your source and 2 what we are doing for the positive to get things back on track after many years of taking our sites collectively off the target. Last month I fired 2 people for being negative and non-productive and hired one person to replace them that does the work of both and better. So it depends on your point of view I guess. My view is if I have the better worker on the job it will help my company to stay focused and hire more good people sooner than later instead of standing still or even losing ground with the people who didn't care to do quality.


The West continued to record the highest regional unemployment rate in
September, 9.1 percent,
while the Midwest again reported the lowest rate,
7.4 percent. Over the month, three regions experienced statistically
significant unemployment rate changes, all of which were declines: the
West (-0.3 percentage point), South (-0.2 point), and Midwest (-0.1 point).
Significant over-the-year rate changes were registered in the same three
regions: the West (-1.2 percentage points) and the Midwest and South
(-1.0 point each). (See table 1.)


Nevada continued to record the highest unemployment rate among the states,
11.8 percent in September.
Rhode Island and California posted the next
highest rates, 10.5 and 10.2 percent, respectively. North Dakota again
registered the lowest jobless rate, 3.0 percent. In total, 21 states
reported jobless rates significantly lower than the U.S. figure of 7.8
percent, 14 states had measurably higher rates, and 15 states and the
District of Columbia had rates that were not appreciably different from
that of the nation. (See tables A and 3.)

Above is from the Regional and State Employment and Unemployment Summary
For release 10:00 a.m. (EDT) Friday, October 19, 2012


http://www.bls.gov/news.release/laus.nr0.htm

TJN's photo
Sat 11/10/12 08:02 AM






Companies are giving notices to employees that they will be layed off.
Because of the impending taxes and costs of the affordable healthcare act companies are laying people of in droves.
Way to go America.



well, whats to be expected? their millionaire ceos take paycuts?...

nope, those folks who just want 'stuff' will be made to pay


so those who already have the 'stuff' can hang on to it and attain more,,,

All the ceo's are millionaires?
There are a lot of small businesses that will be forced to close down because of this.


because OBama was reelected? certainly not.....


no business closes down because of who is elected President, its just not that simple,,,

Did you read any of the links posted as to why they are doing it?
It's because of this administrations tax plan, regulations, and the affordable healthcare act.
That's the reason businesses are doing this.
So yes you could say in part because he was reelected. There is no chance to change. This administrations policies are not business friendly.


the president doesnt set taxes by himself, we have a checks and balances government,,

so , no, its not as simple as who the president is

the congress plays a big part that people continuously ignore in their whinging about laws, taxes, and regulations,,,,

It makes me giggle Obama gets credit for the affordable care act. Then when's things like this happen its the fault of congress.

msharmony's photo
Sat 11/10/12 08:07 AM







Companies are giving notices to employees that they will be layed off.
Because of the impending taxes and costs of the affordable healthcare act companies are laying people of in droves.
Way to go America.



well, whats to be expected? their millionaire ceos take paycuts?...

nope, those folks who just want 'stuff' will be made to pay


so those who already have the 'stuff' can hang on to it and attain more,,,

All the ceo's are millionaires?
There are a lot of small businesses that will be forced to close down because of this.


because OBama was reelected? certainly not.....


no business closes down because of who is elected President, its just not that simple,,,

Did you read any of the links posted as to why they are doing it?
It's because of this administrations tax plan, regulations, and the affordable healthcare act.
That's the reason businesses are doing this.
So yes you could say in part because he was reelected. There is no chance to change. This administrations policies are not business friendly.


the president doesnt set taxes by himself, we have a checks and balances government,,

so , no, its not as simple as who the president is

the congress plays a big part that people continuously ignore in their whinging about laws, taxes, and regulations,,,,

It makes me giggle Obama gets credit for the affordable care act. Then when's things like this happen its the fault of congress.



that is funny, I think he thinks so too

guess who started the trend of labeling it
'obamacare'?

(hint, not obama, although he has since stated he is fond of the label...)


and I agree, HEalthcare reform is a government bill, created by congress and signed off on by the president (like all bills are which pass),

it is, however, a historic event that will be documented as having happened under the OBama presidency,,,,and a historic bill signed by OBama

Lpdon's photo
Sat 11/10/12 11:42 PM

Companies are giving notices to employees that they will be layed off.
Because of the impending taxes and costs of the affordable healthcare act companies are laying people of in droves.
Way to go America.


One major local business here already said they are going to be forced to close and one will have to lay off over 1/3rd of their employee's when Obama care goes into full effect.

Lpdon's photo
Sat 11/10/12 11:49 PM



Considering too that a Republican site on Facebook posted a post encouraging all conservative business owners to lay off one employee who voted for Obama preferably in order to make a point against the president, I would think they might be doing it for other reasons than because of a financial difficulty.

But I sure do hope that voters remember this type of thing too as it is very Non American worker and supporter to even suggest such a thing during a recession.


On another site, people are talking about how employers should lay off liberals. There are several people saying they've never hired liberals and won't be doing so in the future. They actually want to see liberals lose their jobs. How sad. Then, of course, they will complain when people are on unemployment.


Liberals have jobs? :tongue:


Yea, going to the welfare office is their job.

Lpdon's photo
Sat 11/10/12 11:50 PM


Companies are giving notices to employees that they will be layed off.
Because of the impending taxes and costs of the affordable healthcare act companies are laying people of in droves.
Way to go America.


In my state the big news is that we are adding jobs. Guess it depends on 1 your source and 2 what we are doing for the positive to get things back on track after many years of taking our sites collectively off the target. Last month I fired 2 people for being negative and non-productive and hired one person to replace them that does the work of both and better. So it depends on your point of view I guess. My view is if I have the better worker on the job it will help my company to stay focused and hire more good people sooner than later instead of standing still or even losing ground with the people who didn't care to do quality.


I don't know what your source is but were not adding jobs, were reducing and we have the HIGHEST unemployment in the nation!

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 11/11/12 02:36 AM








Companies are giving notices to employees that they will be layed off.
Because of the impending taxes and costs of the affordable healthcare act companies are laying people of in droves.
Way to go America.



well, whats to be expected? their millionaire ceos take paycuts?...

nope, those folks who just want 'stuff' will be made to pay


so those who already have the 'stuff' can hang on to it and attain more,,,

All the ceo's are millionaires?
There are a lot of small businesses that will be forced to close down because of this.


because OBama was reelected? certainly not.....


no business closes down because of who is elected President, its just not that simple,,,

Did you read any of the links posted as to why they are doing it?
It's because of this administrations tax plan, regulations, and the affordable healthcare act.
That's the reason businesses are doing this.
So yes you could say in part because he was reelected. There is no chance to change. This administrations policies are not business friendly.


the president doesnt set taxes by himself, we have a checks and balances government,,

so , no, its not as simple as who the president is

the congress plays a big part that people continuously ignore in their whinging about laws, taxes, and regulations,,,,

It makes me giggle Obama gets credit for the affordable care act. Then when's things like this happen its the fault of congress.



that is funny, I think he thinks so too

guess who started the trend of labeling it
'obamacare'?

(hint, not obama, although he has since stated he is fond of the label...)


and I agree, HEalthcare reform is a government bill, created by congress and signed off on by the president (like all bills are which pass),

it is, however, a historic event that will be documented as having happened under the OBama presidency,,,,and a historic bill signed by OBama
a Government Bill,hmm?

Certainly Historic!:laughing:


Worst Healthlegislation possible!

willing2's photo
Sun 11/11/12 03:49 AM









Companies are giving notices to employees that they will be layed off.
Because of the impending taxes and costs of the affordable healthcare act companies are laying people of in droves.
Way to go America.



well, whats to be expected? their millionaire ceos take paycuts?...

nope, those folks who just want 'stuff' will be made to pay


so those who already have the 'stuff' can hang on to it and attain more,,,

All the ceo's are millionaires?
There are a lot of small businesses that will be forced to close down because of this.


because OBama was reelected? certainly not.....


no business closes down because of who is elected President, its just not that simple,,,

Did you read any of the links posted as to why they are doing it?
It's because of this administrations tax plan, regulations, and the affordable healthcare act.
That's the reason businesses are doing this.
So yes you could say in part because he was reelected. There is no chance to change. This administrations policies are not business friendly.


the president doesnt set taxes by himself, we have a checks and balances government,,

so , no, its not as simple as who the president is

the congress plays a big part that people continuously ignore in their whinging about laws, taxes, and regulations,,,,

It makes me giggle Obama gets credit for the affordable care act. Then when's things like this happen its the fault of congress.



that is funny, I think he thinks so too

guess who started the trend of labeling it
'obamacare'?

(hint, not obama, although he has since stated he is fond of the label...)


and I agree, HEalthcare reform is a government bill, created by congress and signed off on by the president (like all bills are which pass),

it is, however, a historic event that will be documented as having happened under the OBama presidency,,,,and a historic bill signed by OBama
a Government Bill,hmm?

Certainly Historic!:laughing:


Worst Healthlegislation possible!

Jimmy Carter can now rest in peace knowing someone wound up being a worse pres that him.

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 11/11/12 04:10 AM










Companies are giving notices to employees that they will be layed off.
Because of the impending taxes and costs of the affordable healthcare act companies are laying people of in droves.
Way to go America.



well, whats to be expected? their millionaire ceos take paycuts?...

nope, those folks who just want 'stuff' will be made to pay


so those who already have the 'stuff' can hang on to it and attain more,,,

All the ceo's are millionaires?
There are a lot of small businesses that will be forced to close down because of this.


because OBama was reelected? certainly not.....


no business closes down because of who is elected President, its just not that simple,,,

Did you read any of the links posted as to why they are doing it?
It's because of this administrations tax plan, regulations, and the affordable healthcare act.
That's the reason businesses are doing this.
So yes you could say in part because he was reelected. There is no chance to change. This administrations policies are not business friendly.


the president doesnt set taxes by himself, we have a checks and balances government,,

so , no, its not as simple as who the president is

the congress plays a big part that people continuously ignore in their whinging about laws, taxes, and regulations,,,,

It makes me giggle Obama gets credit for the affordable care act. Then when's things like this happen its the fault of congress.



that is funny, I think he thinks so too

guess who started the trend of labeling it
'obamacare'?

(hint, not obama, although he has since stated he is fond of the label...)


and I agree, HEalthcare reform is a government bill, created by congress and signed off on by the president (like all bills are which pass),

it is, however, a historic event that will be documented as having happened under the OBama presidency,,,,and a historic bill signed by OBama
a Government Bill,hmm?

Certainly Historic!:laughing:


Worst Healthlegislation possible!

Jimmy Carter can now rest in peace knowing someone wound up being a worse pres that him.
you bet!



how could anyone,with him getting ready for his Third Term!


msharmony's photo
Sun 11/11/12 08:08 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 11/11/12 08:08 AM
healthcare passed
osama dead
troops brought home from Iraq
lily ledbetter passed
dodt repealed,,,
depression avoided

remind me again the historic legislation accomplished under Carter?

yeah,, carter was MUCH Better slaphead slaphead

it must be REALLY hard viewing the real world up on BS mountain,,,

no photo
Sun 11/11/12 09:42 AM




Considering too that a Republican site on Facebook posted a post encouraging all conservative business owners to lay off one employee who voted for Obama preferably in order to make a point against the president, I would think they might be doing it for other reasons than because of a financial difficulty.

But I sure do hope that voters remember this type of thing too as it is very Non American worker and supporter to even suggest such a thing during a recession.


On another site, people are talking about how employers should lay off liberals. There are several people saying they've never hired liberals and won't be doing so in the future. They actually want to see liberals lose their jobs. How sad. Then, of course, they will complain when people are on unemployment.


Liberals have jobs? :tongue:


Yea, going to the welfare office is their job.


Gotta love the attitude from conservatives that no liberals work.

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 11/11/12 12:25 PM
From FrontPageMag.com:

Out of 175,554 registered voters, 247,713 vote cards were cast in St. Lucie County, Florida on Tuesday. Barack Obama won the county.

When faced with the astronomical figures, Gertrude Walker, Supervisor of Elections for St. Lucie County, said she had no idea why turnout was so incredibly high. She was flabbergasted, saying, “We’ve never seen that here.”

Coincidentally (or not), St. Lucie County is also in Allen West’s district, where 6,000 votes mysteriously “shifted” from Mr. West to his challenger.
laugh laugh laugh
laugh laugh laugh
laugh laugh laugh


no photo
Sun 11/11/12 12:36 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 11/11/12 12:37 PM





Considering too that a Republican site on Facebook posted a post encouraging all conservative business owners to lay off one employee who voted for Obama preferably in order to make a point against the president, I would think they might be doing it for other reasons than because of a financial difficulty.

But I sure do hope that voters remember this type of thing too as it is very Non American worker and supporter to even suggest such a thing during a recession.


On another site, people are talking about how employers should lay off liberals. There are several people saying they've never hired liberals and won't be doing so in the future. They actually want to see liberals lose their jobs. How sad. Then, of course, they will complain when people are on unemployment.


Liberals have jobs? :tongue:


Yea, going to the welfare office is their job.


Gotta love the attitude from conservatives that no liberals work.



First, it was really a joke to make fun of the whole "liberal vs. conservative" ridiculousness.

Second, I don't consider myself either liberal or conservative. That's like claiming to be democrat or republican.

My new party is libertarian.

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/11/12 12:37 PM

From FrontPageMag.com:

Out of 175,554 registered voters, 247,713 vote cards were cast in St. Lucie County, Florida on Tuesday. Barack Obama won the county.

When faced with the astronomical figures, Gertrude Walker, Supervisor of Elections for St. Lucie County, said she had no idea why turnout was so incredibly high. She was flabbergasted, saying, “We’ve never seen that here.”

Coincidentally (or not), St. Lucie County is also in Allen West’s district, where 6,000 votes mysteriously “shifted” from Mr. West to his challenger.
laugh laugh laugh
laugh laugh laugh
laugh laugh laugh





those machines have had issues with shifting in a few places, including places where they 'shifted' away from Obama,, that is something they should concentrate on correcting for certain

the figures represent the turnout with provisional ballads, which is the true representation of how many came to vote and which was very high,,,,

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sun 11/11/12 04:33 PM

One promise Obozo can keep!.....


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