It is in the piece explaining Silverstein's comment.

"As we were walking, we had to actually get a little closer to Seven. So we turned and looked at Seven, and that's when all the marble siding started popping off the side because it was starting to go down.

We worked our way putting out the car fires, which I don't know if there was ammunition, because there was a lot of cop cars, but there was explosions. Tires were exploding. There had to be about 15 or 20 car fires. We put them out as we worked our way down." –Firefighter Thomas Donato

So, cars were on fire. What have you got that suggests otherwise?

So you feel that stating that a person is not an American is an attack? An attack on "nationality?" Why?

Is he an American or not? If he is then why does his profile state he is from Zurich, Zurich?

The reason I mentioned it is because if he were an American, he would probably know that a criminal trial is not the same thing as a military Tribunal. And if he is an American why does he live in Zurich, Zurich?

Also, why do you think stating that someone is not an American an attack? That's very strange.

So how did these cars catch on fire?

You have a building that fell as a result of weakened structure, and it fell in a Pancake collapse, one story on top of another into a pile of dust. There is paper flying everywhere, in the streets unburned. No huge blazing inferno's in or on any other surrounding buildings that show up in any videos.... So I'm wondering, how did 1400 cars catch on fire? Where are videos or pictures of a car lot full of cars on fire?

Whatever.

Of course he knows the difference, and after the highly publicised trial of David Hicks (I mean, after he faced a military tribunal) the whole planet does, probably better than you Americans.

Well, regarding the fires in the vicinity of WTC7, it is obvious that you haven't been paying attention. So, essentially, you are accusing the firefighter of lying? You still have not provided any evidence for your claims of 1400-1500 cars (as if), nor have you confirmed the location of these vehicles when the damage occurred. The fact that vehicles were towed to another location, in order to clear the streets, so the rescue operations were unimpeded is entirely plausible. I've been asking for independent verification of these claims since page 7. You've provided us with nothing but evasive, time wasting persiflage and a couple of photos of a few damaged cars (a number that supports Donato's testimony I might add). Excuse my scepticism, but I tend not to believe any old crap posted on the internet.



Hmmm....is that a fire in the street adjacent to the building?



I suppose the hose is pointing at the ground to intimidate hedgehogs?



Well, lookee thar! Burnin' cars! And paper everywhere! Shucks! Must be a technology we know nuffin' about.

I'm not interested in what you 'make of them'. My question was, if the truther movement had the courage of its convictions, why didn't anyone try to help this POS?

Got problems with me living in Zurich?
Told one of your Friends before!
It is for me to know,and for you to find out!

actually what you are implying is,that I am not qualified or should be allowed to post in any of those Threads!

OMG! There are pictures all over the internet of city dumps and landfills with fires scattered all over them and EVERYWHERE there is PAPER!!!!




THIS IS POSITIVE PROOF THAT THE ALIEN TECHNOLOGY IS SPREADING!!

and what makes you believe that they deserve any other Trial,than one conducted by Military Rules?

OMG,Nano-Microwaves!
So,Doctor Judy was right after all!
Wonder where they got those Yotta-Tera-Megawatts of Energy from,that were required!

Yes, I've been on the receiving end of that tactic. It was rather lame. 'I've got nothing left, so I'll attack where they come from.' Herr Konductor loved using it when he ran of wit (which was rather quickly).

Judy Woods:

EVIDENCE OF BE ON 9/11


The Dawn of a New Age
For many years, we have heard that a “free-energy1 device is just around the corner,” but it never seems to come to fruition. Nikola Tesla wanted to give free energy to the world nearly 100 years ago but was afraid it would fall into the wrong hands and be used for destructive purposes. Well, that is no longer just a risk; it has already happened. However, until we understand just how powerful this technology is as well as how powerful the interests are that control it, we won’t see it in general use. We first need to respect what this technology can do, otherwise it would be like leaving a gun cabinet unlocked around children who do not know what guns can do. We also need the world to see what this technology has done. This technology was used to destroy the World Trade Center complex on 9/11/01 and was a demonstration of a new kind of free-energy technology in front of the entire world. As more people around the world recognize this, the less power the controlling interests will have. And if the entire world knows that free-energy technology exists, individuals can openly build their own devices and share their designs with others. It won’t be a secret!

Kaaay!!!

One of her groupies:


The depopulation matrix is designed to be activated by a 9-11 style false-flag state terror attack against a major urban centre in the US. Possibly using nuclear, biological weapons or advanced exotic weapons such as directed energy weapons – which I think Dr. Wood has done a magnificent job of… really holding her space and… … bringing us to this.

These people are for real.

I feel like I'm reading some crappy UFO magazine from the '80's.

So what exactly is HAARP?

High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program

The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) is an ionospheric research program jointly funded by the U.S. Air Force, the U.S. Navy, the University of Alaska, and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA).

Built by BAE Advanced Technologies (BAEAT), its purpose is to analyze the ionosphere and investigate the potential for developing ionospheric enhancement technology for radio communications and surveillance. The HAARP program operates a major sub-arctic facility, named the HAARP Research Station, on an Air Force–owned site near Gakona, Alaska.

The most prominent instrument at the HAARP Station is the Ionospheric Research Instrument (IRI), a high-power radio frequency transmitter facility operating in the high frequency (HF) band. The IRI is used to temporarily excite a limited area of the ionosphere. Other instruments, such as a VHF and a UHF radar, a fluxgate magnetometer, a digisonde, and an induction magnetometer, are used to study the physical processes that occur in the excited region.

Work on the HAARP Station began in 1993. The current working IRI was completed in 2007, and its prime contractor was BAE Systems Advanced Technologies. As of 2008, HAARP had incurred around $250 million in tax-funded construction and operating costs.

HAARP has been blamed by conspiracy theorists for a range of events, including numerous natural disasters. Various scientists have commented that HAARP is an attractive target for conspiracy theorists because according to computer scientist David Naiditch, "its purpose seems deeply mysterious to the scientifically uninformed.


Objectives


HAARP antenna array
The HAARP project directs a 3.6 MW signal, in the 2.8–10 MHz region of the HF (high-frequency) band, into the ionosphere. The signal may be pulsed or continuous. Then, effects of the transmission and any recovery period can be examined using associated instrumentation, including VHF and UHF radars, HF receivers, and optical cameras. According to the HAARP team, this will advance the study of basic natural processes that occur in the ionosphere under the natural but much stronger influence of solar interaction, and how the natural ionosphere affects radio signals.

This will enable scientists to develop methods to mitigate these effects to improve the reliability or performance of communication and navigation systems, which would have a wide range of uses, civilian and military, such as an increased accuracy of GPS navigation, and advances in underwater and underground research and applications. This may lead to improved methods for submarine communication, or an ability to remotely sense and map the mineral content of the terrestrial subsurface, and perhaps underground complexes, of regions or countries, among other things. The current facility lacks the range to reach these countries, but the research could be used to develop a mobile platform.

The HAARP program began in 1990. The project is funded by the Office of Naval Research and jointly managed by the ONR and Air Force Research Laboratory, with the principal involvement of the University of Alaska. Many other universities and educational institutions of the United States have been involved in the development of the project and its instruments, namely the University of Alaska Fairbanks, Stanford University, Penn State University (ARL), Boston College, UCLA, Clemson University, Dartmouth College, Cornell University, Johns Hopkins University, University of Maryland, College Park, University of Massachusetts Amherst, MIT, Polytechnic Institute of New York University, and the University of Tulsa. The project's specifications were developed by the universities, which are continuing to play a major role in the design of future research efforts.

According to HAARP's management, the project strives for openness, and all activities are logged and publicly available. Scientists without security clearances, even foreign nationals, are routinely allowed on site. The HAARP facility regularly (once a year on most years according to the HAARP home page) hosts open houses, during which time any civilian may tour the entire facility. In addition, scientific results obtained with HAARP are routinely published in major research journals (such as Geophysical Research Letters, or Journal of Geophysical Research), written both by university scientists (American and foreign) or by U.S. Department of Defense research lab scientists. Each summer, the HAARP holds a summer school for visiting students, including foreign nationals, giving them an opportunity to do research with one of the world's foremost research instruments.

So, hardly a secret operation and it appears to be quite benign.

Maybe someone has dropped a little too much acid in her youth.

How difficult would it be to find an impartial jury anyway?

and one with all the Security-Clearances to boot!

Good point!

Because it WAS NOT A TRIAL. It was a military tribunal.

If the NSA, CIA etc utilized the Patriot act to check a person's record of books checked out at a library, the librarian can be arrested for breathing a word of it to anyone. A civilian breaks the law just asking questions about people arrested and held without a lawyer. THIS IS THE NEW M.O SINCE THE PATRIOT ACT. Which has taken away our freedoms and rights and made this country into what can be easily changed into total tyranny.

It was not a trial.

From what I have read so far, the man was very concerned how they were treating innocent detainees. He can't even speak English, and the translation of the "unclassified transcript" was very poor.

It was not a trial. It was a joke. That man, who can't even speak English is supposed to be a "mastermind" of 9-11? That's a laugh.

Because this is America. This was a criminal act. Criminals are innocent until proven guilty. They are supposed to be able to have a lawyer and are not supposed to be tortured into confessing. DUH.

And because the "war on terror" is not a real war. It is bull crap.

That is your incorrect assumption. If you were an American, or even if you watched American television you should know the difference between a military tribunal and a criminal trial.

You don't seem to know the difference.