Here is an excerpt from a news story dated 15 October 2012:



Apparently, some Florida education officials think that the ability of a student to achieve academic success depends on that student's race.

I have been saying that anti-minority institutional racism is a dying elephant. Now, someone in Florida has placed that elephant on life-support.

Quotas never went away or died.

They have been kept reeeealy quiet.

Sounds like those who want the edge are calling their own people stupid, no?

Nothing in that aforementioned news story indicates the racial background of the Florida education officials involved in the story.

Here is another excerpt from the news story:

Well and the "race card" is actually a creation of the white racists to discredit their victims outcry against the crimes committed against them.

White racism is alive and well and living all around you in this country. I have seen it on too many occasions live and in living uncolor...pun intended.

Until the white racism (controlling race) which has been the catalyst to most other racism is addressed and made to be socially unacceptable, there will always be an answering resentment.

The obsession with race in this country came from our racist beginnings in this country. White racist beginnings.

Actually, the "race card" is the creation of people who became tired of false claims of racism.

I don't know how it is in other nations, but in the USA, a party is innocent of a charge until proven guilty, even when the charge is that of racism. So, when a person cries "Racism!" without proving that claim, others begin to treat that person like the boy who cried "Wolf!"

To be more clear.
The folks who don't want to get rid of the quotas and lower scores to qualify are believing their races are stupid and need the extra advantage.

The Asian oughta' be raisin' hell because they have to score so much higher than the rest.
But, equality would only piss off the ones who holler racist.

Exactly! Those people may or may not have been white racists, but it doesn't change the reality that false claims of racism are made.

Both are true:

a) False claims of racism are not uncommon, and sometimes people are correct to accuse others of 'playing the race card'

b) True claims of racism are sometimes dismissed, marginalized, ignored, or discredited by wrongly accusing someone of playing the race card.

Only white racists believe there are faked racism claims though...that is the problem.

Those of us who know what we are looking at like me being a white person who sees the white racism all the time everywhere, knows that even if they have a hard time proving it, it happened.

"sees the white racism all the time everywhere".
Please tell us where you see it.

I think it is self explanatory right?

No. Please tell us where you see it.

I think the 'RACE Card' was a clever phrase created by a lawyer,,,who was upset that someone should actually suggest an officer with a documented bias against black folks would be less than honest in their practices in a case against a black man



nuff said



I think the term is overused, yes people will claim racism often times when it cant be proven and sometimes people will use it just to incite,, just like some people use the term 'race card' to incite

but so too do people who are victims of a bad date sometimes call 'rape', but we have yet to create such a phrase as the 'rape card' to imply some widespread annoyance


racism is a real philosophy, a philosophy that was government sanctioned long enough for it to have real time and lingering affects of economic and opportunity division in our country

when I hear someone griping about a 'race card' it makes me want to puke honestly

such a card, obviously, has very litle impact since it apparently only gives people reason to dismiss real racism or to deny its socioeconomic effects,,,

Im not sure if this moves me as a bad thing since it promotes a positive goal (reading at or above grade level)

I understand the discrepancy in rates being based in the race and would love to see an overall performance goal for eduators to have ALL students reading at their grade level or higher

however, I do also believe children do 'start' in different places, although there cant be a DEFINITE racial line that determines in any absolute way where that place is


perhaps they could shoot for a certain percentage increase based upon where those students have STARTED so that its more consistently based on actual improvement instead of by race

I see this kind of extraordinary asian minority stereotype as similar to the noble and patriotic soldier stereotype

some asians are no more extraordinary than anyone else
and some soldiers signed on for the check, or the power, or the funding and benefits or things that had nothing to do with patriotism or nobility and some never see a day of danger

but we still have a hard time discarding the 'positive' stereotypes we assign to different groups

Do you honestly, seriously believe that?

Literally?

You seriously believe that ALL claims of racism are true??!!

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I wasn't the person this asked, but I see racism everywhere. I live in an urban environment, and every day I see dozens and dozens of examples of racism, and most of it is directed against black people and latinos. Some of it is directed at white people.

People do this both ways to incite, but they also do it both ways to deny their personal responsibility. Racists will pretend actual racism is just 'someone playing the race card', and irresponsible people will pretend they are victims of racism rather than look at how they created their situation.




Yes. That's the 'race-card'-card. Some people are quick to holler "race card" to deny actual racism.

It's racist to assume Asians are smart just because they are Asian and negros are dumb just because they are negro.
Florida schools are promoting racism and segregation.

it also depends upon the region and how they got the information

if it is just an assumption, it is racist

if there is some data to suggest a difference in the demographics than it may be a logical approach, but one better served by defining the standard by a percent of improvement individually, as opposed to demographically

if possible to do so

It makes me want to puke when people cry "Racism!" without actually proving racism.

This thread is about a policy which openly judges students by race. The last time that I checked, judging people by race is what racism is.

That Florida Education Department policy is based on the belief that you can tell how well a student will perform academically by looking at that student's race. The racism of that policy is blatantly obvious and should be called out, which is what I have done.

So, I am not using the race card in the OP.

On the other hand, there are people who continue to make unproven claims of racism, such as "Only white racists believe there are faked racism claims though...that is the problem."

What amazes me is that some people will downplay overt acts of racism (examples: the aforementioned school policy; voting for Obama because he's black), while complaining about alleged current racism that hasn't been proven.

If you don't want people to say that you're using the race card, then prove your claim of current racism if you make such a claim.

it may be racism or it may not Dodo, I dont have enough information to know

for instance, if I am in an area of the country where girls have not been encouraged to take science and math and boys have, and it can be shown that the boys are STARTING from a wider knowledge and experience base in those areas, say numerically they are starting at a level 6 out of 10

it is reasonable to expect them to finish at a level 8

IF on the other hand girls in that region were shown to be STARTING at a level 3, expecting that same level would be a bit unfair

if the standards are ONLY based in race, and not some backing research that validates those expectations that HAPPEN to be racially divided,, than its racist

I dont have enough information here to know which the fl dpt is guilty of

its also difficult to 'prove' racism,(especially in a black and white screen of mere words'

thats why its so easy to continue perpetuating it,,,

someone may call me a negro in these threads because they are raised with those terms being neutral race indicators

someone else may call me a negro and have a racist undertone to it

it is more a matter of collectively observing the basic consistency of how people are referred to and spoken to and finding what the difference may be , than having something that can be 'proven'