Topic: Obummercare names it's Death Panel
willing2's photo
Tue 10/02/12 11:59 AM
What did that old dirtbag say? Have to pass it to know what's in it?
Now, you findin' out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Zv98v5mT-WM

According to Christina Romer, Chairperson of Barack Obama's White House Council of Economic Advisors, EPSDT medical decisions under Obamacare will be decided by a "professional advisory board" (a death panel).

Such a panel destroys all intents and purposes of the Medicaid law for children (EPSDT), which mandates every state seek out, find, and cure every disability of every disabled child. Obviously such a mandate would save billions of dollars.

When Medicaid for children was created in 1967, President Lyndon Johnson stated "The problem is to discover, as early as possible, the ills that handicap our children. There must be continuing follow-up and treatment so that handicaps do not go untreated." (13 Congressional Record 2883. February 8, 1967).

EPSDT was amended in 1989 with the addition of "Paragraph 5," found at US 42§1396d(r)(5) (see http://www.EPSDT.us), which mandates that every state Medicaid agency provide:

"(5) Such other necessary health care, diagnostic services, treatment, and other measures to correct or ameliorate defects and physical and mental illnesses and conditions discovered by the screening services, whether or not such services are covered under the State plan."

The EPSDT statute requires states to provide whatever is "necessary to correct or ameliorate"--even if traditional treatments are bypassed. The EPSDT mandate hurdles every bureaucratic, institutional, and political barrier to access--including physicians who refuse to provide whatever is "necessary to correct or ameliorate."

This mandate has been successfully utilized to access Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy (HBOT) for brain-injured children from TBI to cerebral palsy to autism. See http://www.MedicaidforHBOT.com.

Here's a before/after video of total recovery from brain-injury via HBOT. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbFs9NN__Mk#GU5U2spHI_4.

Besides gutting EPSDT, notice too at the beginning of this clip, just before Romer's statement on EPSDT, when asked about preventative care, she states such care will be available if "there's a good payoff."

No doubt this same conditional requirement will become policy for accessing EPSDT services as well. If Obama's "professional advisory board" decides the economic resources "necessary to correct or ameliorate" will not "pay off" in the form of a tax-revenue-generating-citizen, what's "necessary to correct or ameliorate" a disabled child will be denied.

This is a death sentence for disabled children and old geezers.

So much for hope.

And change.



Mengele lives.

This video clip originally occurred around 1:17 of the June 23, 2009 testimony before the House Labor and Education Committee found at http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/287222-1.


msharmony's photo
Tue 10/02/12 12:07 PM
nice hearsay

we have been hearing 'death panel' gossip for so long

any actual LINK to the portion of the bill which states any of this?



willing2's photo
Tue 10/02/12 12:10 PM

nice hearsay

we have been hearing 'death panel' gossip for so long

any actual LINK to the portion of the bill which states any of this?




It's called the Advisory Board. They decide who lives and who dies.

Reading comprehension?


msharmony's photo
Tue 10/02/12 12:12 PM


nice hearsay

we have been hearing 'death panel' gossip for so long

any actual LINK to the portion of the bill which states any of this?




It's called the Advisory Board. They decide who lives and who dies.

Reading comprehension?





no, its still black and white text by an anonymous person on a chat board

no actual REFERENCE to anything that can verify the validity of the accusation,,,

willing2's photo
Tue 10/02/12 12:40 PM
Edited by willing2 on Tue 10/02/12 12:47 PM
Other folks will take the time to read and view the interviews.

No more Muslim supporters.

Vote out Hussein!

Repeal O'Bummercare!


msharmony's photo
Tue 10/02/12 02:51 PM
I also heard interviews and statements about a death panel deciding who lives and dies

Im guessing actually Pointing out where the actual bill says anything claimed in the interview,, is asking too much,,,

motowndowntown's photo
Tue 10/02/12 03:57 PM
Sure, why not stay with the old system.

If you had money, you lived.

If you didn't you died.

Who needs a panel?

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/02/12 03:58 PM

Sure, why not stay with the old system.

If you had money, you lived.

If you didn't you died.

Who needs a panel?



point taken

no death panel needed, no death panel created,,,

no photo
Tue 10/02/12 04:55 PM
Death Panels were in there, no one had time to read it.