Topic: Returning to Slavery....With Robots?
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Sun 09/02/12 02:38 PM
So here is an idea I have been thinking of.

technology seems to be advancing at a faster and faster rate.

AI's and Robots are getting smarter and smart.

Today, we have having more and more of our technology take over in tasked that not long ago, would have required a human to have to over see said task to do.

I believe that there is a trend here, that as AI's and Robots continue to get smarter and more advanced,we may end up seeing more and more Robots take over more and more complex.

logically it will be cheaper and far more efficient to have a robot in your business.

Robots don't ask for pay
they don't go on strikes
they won't ever quit there job
they can work much faster then a human
they would be less likely to make mistakes then a human
and unlike there human counterparts, they can run 24/7 for maximum efficiency in production of there work.

but there is another issue, if anyone has heard of of an event called the "technical singularity", then you would know its the point were AI's become smarter then humans and are capable of thinking of things that are brains just don't have the capacity to realize or think of.

they will with this ability, possibility be able to improve themselves in ways we would of never thought of.

and if there capable if improving themselves to be even smarter, then they then become capable of thinking of even more ways to themselves smarter,and because they made themselves smarter, they can now think of even better ways to improve themselves....

It would turn into a never ending cycle of AI's Improve AI's and once the genie out of the bottle, we humans(as we are now anyway), would just not have the thinking capacity to outsmart this entity of ever increasing intelligence.

We could of course,maybe, in the future, merge with the robots, catching a ride on the singularity ourselves, perhaps using chips implanted into the brain to improve our memory and thinking ability.

and with over 9 billion humans collectivity all as smart as our AI Super being, we may just be able to control our creation.

but of course, this is only a guess.


Now, onto the point, robot slavery.

As AI's and robots get smarter and more advanced, they will be capable of doing more and more complex jobs.

it may start at your local fast food place,restaurant,taxi's,hotels, and over time, all the way up to more complex jobs.

Over time, I believe we will end up returning to a system that long ago, was made possible though the use of African American slaves.

but this time however, things will be a little bit different.

think of the day when we have smarter then us AI's, AI's with thinking capability's far beyond our.

When smarter then human AI's just as you and I, become a normal everyday part life.no longer may your society or community or country be made up of all humans, but of Robotic AI's to.

At the Same Time, We will have AI's and Robots by the time were past the singularity running almost if not "maybe", all the jobs that required constant human attention.

A clash between the old economic system that required constant human attention and the system of were its possible for robots to take over a large majority of human jobs to free us up to seek more meaningful things with in our life's starts to clash.

it may be that when these two systems clash around the time of the singularity, a new depression may start.

but here is the question, in this depression, will you really feel compelled to remove and lay off a robot that has less "needs" then a human that will work that will work for 24 hours a day with no pay at all?

QUESTIONS

1) I will ask you the following questions, could a new depression at the time of the singularity between the clash of the human driven economic system and the new robot economic system only made the transition between the two systems, as humans find they can no longer be supported by a business and are no longer needed with a robot that needs no pay and little "needs" to work 24 hours a day?

2) Do you think that as robots take over more jobs humans once had, that people will start focusing less on a job and more on finding a meaningful life and purpose?
(For Example, I would love to turn my focus to bettering myself though learning and seek out to do things that would help advance the human race and peoples lives)

3)do you think the smarter then humans AI will feel sympathy for these robot slave counter parts and rebel?


personally, I think the solution to this is build robot slaves made only for the task there given, nothing more and low and behold, we seem to be very good at doing that now. I believe because of then, Smart then Human AI's may even have there own robot slaves!



4)What are your thoughts on us returning to a system similar to the old slavery system but only this time, with machines that don't complain about being slaves,have little needs to contently be doing a tasks 24/7 and can be made to not even ever have the slightest thought of freedom or rebellion.

5)What are your thoughts of merging with technology to become a cyborg, Super thinking human, who might be able to completely out think and out preform every human who does not take the path to self improvement.

that you maybe, would end up gaining the ability to see possibility's that the normal human brain could have never thought of.

6) if a genie poped out of your computer in the year 2012 and said, I can make you a Super human cyborg,with thinking capability's that surpass the processing power of every brain on earth put together.

You would become an unstoppable force in anything you try to do and could continue to improve upon yourself to become smarter,more powerful and more unstoppable.

Would you take the genies offer to turn yourself into a Super Advanced Cyborg?


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Wed 09/05/12 10:49 PM
and then they take over the world smokin

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Thu 09/06/12 09:31 AM
My take on it is this, look at every film or tv show that involves robots or AI

- Created and programmed by humans - including human error

- when the **** hits the fan and it all goes wrong, its put right by the humans.

- even with the evolutions in robotics they still struggle with basic tasks unless controlled by a human.

Answer they will never be smart enough to not need humans.


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Fri 09/14/12 06:44 PM
Edited by Deaddude325 on Fri 09/14/12 06:45 PM
cantbereal

how can your statement be true when both you and I exist at the human level of intelligence.

to say it is impossible is to ignore the fact that human level intelligence has already been created my mother nature.

this is of course, proof of concept that such a thing is possible.

I personally believe Computers as they are right now incapable of creating human level intelligence.

But I believe that Is because compared the the human brain, the computers we try to use to duplicate it are of incomplete and of poor design, thus naturally we struggle to create true human level intelligence when the tools we try to use to create it are incapable and insufficient.

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Sun 09/16/12 07:04 AM
I think that what has already happened in the past eternity, it will happen again, when living species get an high-tech level start building more and more perfect autome-beings.... as the human biomacchina is ... and it is not so bad