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Honestly, if anyone did Romney favors at the RNC, then it was Ryan and Rice. Hate Ryan all you want but he is exactly what Romney needs if he has any hope of winning this election. I know Ryan is the equivalent to Pelosi in that Pelosi leans so far to the left while Ryan is the ultra staunch conservative. Rice presented herself as the stronest precense at the RNC. Her speech was pure gold and it even had liberal analysts on MSNBC loving it. Now. I am tired of hearing about how Romney is rich, he is this and that, and he doesn't understand the majority of American's problems. And you think Obama does? Obama has no idea what it is like for farmers to struggle. Neither does Romney. Obama doesn't work two jobs and barely can keep all his bills paid like a majority of American's do. Neither does Romney. So stop with that argument. You can blame Romney for being rich all you want. But that isn't what makes people not like Romney. Romney's problem is that he just can't sell himself to the public. Obama is a master at that. And that will probably be the difference in this election. I guarantee you that Obama will give one heck of speech next week at the DNC. And what will he say? Oh, I bet it will be exactly like what he said in 2008, and that is what irks me about him. He needs to quit with the great speeches, get off his lazy arse, and get things done. That's what he said he would do. He promised to get Republicans and Democrats to work together. Hell, he can't even get many in his own party to agree with him. So how on God's green Earth will it change in the next four years. And would Romeny be any better? I don't know (at this point) if he is, but I am leaning more towards giving him a shot at it. I really don't care if we have a Democrat or Republican in the White House. I just want more good paying jobs coming into our country than leaving. I personally know people who have Master's degrees (MBA's, Education, etc) who work retail cause they cannot find work at all. They have all this education and they can't find the work, and so they work two jobs to make ends meet. That is nonsense! Question is, do I vote to give Obama four more years to show me that he can deliver? Or do I vote for Romney and see what he can do? Honestly, Obama does not stand up against Congress.....he never has. He says he has, but the reality is that he backs down when the going gets tough. His Obamacare was pushed heavily this year cause it was an election year. Hell, he wants to look good so yeah...I see the strategy. But what else is he doing? What else can he do? Or will he do? I want to hear him speak next week. And, I want to hear what the DNC leaders will say as well. I honestly believe that if Obama had more of a backbone he would have achieved much more. Trust me. When he took office, I wanted to see that same guy who delivered the speeches that made me believe he could achieve so much. And yet, he simply hasn't. My vote is still undecided (even though I am leaning towards Romney now). Obama will have my full attention this coming week. Hell, the DNC will have my full attention. Ultimately, I just want whomever wins this election to hunker down and get our country back on track. the argument that Mitt is out of touch comes from his OWN statements,, his background is a rational 'excuse' for his condition,, otherwise he would just be pretty dumb so, his background ALONG With his statements is what causes me to believe him to be extremely out of touch with reality. As far as Obama, how many presidents have been 'farmers' and what has that to do with it. He grew up with FIRST hand exposure to struggle via a struggling single mom and struggling parents and a financial struggle throughout college. I believe OBAMA is more AWARE And IN TOUCH with what it is to actually STRUGGLE than Romney does or ever will. Who cares if he is out of touch. He has a HISTORY of creating SUCCESSFUL businesses, creating and saving millions and millions of jobs, helping with charaties, turning around struggling events and so on and so on. Who cares if he cant relate to someone as long as he can help them get a better life who cares if he can relate. More Obama talking points. |
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Also Obama has proven time and time again he has no business experience. Hell the Solyndra mess is a perfect example of that forcing through at the taxpayers dime a huge chunk of money is a business that had no chance of success and who people in his own inner circle of advisors told him to stay clear of.
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Edited by
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Honestly, if anyone did Romney favors at the RNC, then it was Ryan and Rice. Hate Ryan all you want but he is exactly what Romney needs if he has any hope of winning this election. I know Ryan is the equivalent to Pelosi in that Pelosi leans so far to the left while Ryan is the ultra staunch conservative. Rice presented herself as the stronest precense at the RNC. Her speech was pure gold and it even had liberal analysts on MSNBC loving it. Now. I am tired of hearing about how Romney is rich, he is this and that, and he doesn't understand the majority of American's problems. And you think Obama does? Obama has no idea what it is like for farmers to struggle. Neither does Romney. Obama doesn't work two jobs and barely can keep all his bills paid like a majority of American's do. Neither does Romney. So stop with that argument. You can blame Romney for being rich all you want. But that isn't what makes people not like Romney. Romney's problem is that he just can't sell himself to the public. Obama is a master at that. And that will probably be the difference in this election. I guarantee you that Obama will give one heck of speech next week at the DNC. And what will he say? Oh, I bet it will be exactly like what he said in 2008, and that is what irks me about him. He needs to quit with the great speeches, get off his lazy arse, and get things done. That's what he said he would do. He promised to get Republicans and Democrats to work together. Hell, he can't even get many in his own party to agree with him. So how on God's green Earth will it change in the next four years. And would Romeny be any better? I don't know (at this point) if he is, but I am leaning more towards giving him a shot at it. I really don't care if we have a Democrat or Republican in the White House. I just want more good paying jobs coming into our country than leaving. I personally know people who have Master's degrees (MBA's, Education, etc) who work retail cause they cannot find work at all. They have all this education and they can't find the work, and so they work two jobs to make ends meet. That is nonsense! Question is, do I vote to give Obama four more years to show me that he can deliver? Or do I vote for Romney and see what he can do? Honestly, Obama does not stand up against Congress.....he never has. He says he has, but the reality is that he backs down when the going gets tough. His Obamacare was pushed heavily this year cause it was an election year. Hell, he wants to look good so yeah...I see the strategy. But what else is he doing? What else can he do? Or will he do? I want to hear him speak next week. And, I want to hear what the DNC leaders will say as well. I honestly believe that if Obama had more of a backbone he would have achieved much more. Trust me. When he took office, I wanted to see that same guy who delivered the speeches that made me believe he could achieve so much. And yet, he simply hasn't. My vote is still undecided (even though I am leaning towards Romney now). Obama will have my full attention this coming week. Hell, the DNC will have my full attention. Ultimately, I just want whomever wins this election to hunker down and get our country back on track. the argument that Mitt is out of touch comes from his OWN statements,, his background is a rational 'excuse' for his condition,, otherwise he would just be pretty dumb so, his background ALONG With his statements is what causes me to believe him to be extremely out of touch with reality. As far as Obama, how many presidents have been 'farmers' and what has that to do with it. He grew up with FIRST hand exposure to struggle via a struggling single mom and struggling parents and a financial struggle throughout college. I believe OBAMA is more AWARE And IN TOUCH with what it is to actually STRUGGLE than Romney does or ever will. Who cares if he is out of touch. He has a HISTORY of creating SUCCESSFUL businesses, creating and saving millions and millions of jobs, helping with charaties, turning around struggling events and so on and so on. Who cares if he cant relate to someone as long as he can help them get a better life who cares if he can relate. More Obama talking points. please share some of this 'history'....of Romney creating and saving 'millions' of jobs? bain capitol TODAY has under 6000 employees, and mass. has a population of a little over 6mill with even a 15 percent unemployment that makes 900000 people out of work if he saved EVERY unemployed persons job and every bain employee, that still wouldnt quite be 1 million and its far less than likely that he saved anywhere near that many jobs for the state or for Bain, considering he helped push BAIN himself out..lol so where did he create these jobs again? and even if he created 'some' jobs somewhere,, by his own logic regarding healthcare reform The Massachusetts health care plan "dealt with 8 percent of our population," far less than the "100 percent of American people" affected by President Barack Obama’s health care law. even mitt doesnt think dealing with a STATE of 6 millionis the same as dealing with a COUNTRY,, Im sure dealing with a company of a few thousand is even less like running a country,,, |
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Also Obama has proven time and time again he has no business experience. Hell the Solyndra mess is a perfect example of that forcing through at the taxpayers dime a huge chunk of money is a business that had no chance of success and who people in his own inner circle of advisors told him to stay clear of. solyndra doesnt represent 'time and time again' |
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If the Republicans had a stronger candidate the election would probably be a "shoe-in." Many many people are upset and disappointed with Obama...But this is not a race between Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter...The variables are different. How many people will decide to "stick" with Obama even though they haven't been pleased with his first term? If they gain more confidence in Romney they may decide to "switch." But right now Romney isn't a "gung-ho alternative" for everyone...Some GOP voters have hated and despised Obama since day one and definitely want him "out" even if they're not exactly "in love" with Romney...Former Obama supporters can go either way. Some may grudingly vote for Obama and give him another chance. Some may decide not to vote at all. And others may vote for Romney with reservations...Hard to know what will happen quite yet. This is how I feel anyway...Who will win over the majority of Independent voters?
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If the Republicans had a stronger candidate the election would probably be a "shoe-in." Many many people are upset and disappointed with Obama...But this is not a race between Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter...The variables are different. How many people will decide to "stick" with Obama even though they haven't been pleased with his first term? If they gain more confidence in Romney they may decide to "switch." But right now Romney isn't a "gung-ho alternative" for everyone...Some GOP voters have hated and despised Obama since day one and definitely want him "out" even if they're not exactly "in love" with Romney...Former Obama supporters can go either way. Some may grudingly vote for Obama and give him another chance. Some may decide not to vote at all. And others may vote for Romney with reservations...Hard to know what will happen quite yet. This is how I feel anyway...Who will win over the majority of Independent voters?
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I don't think either candidate really understands how rough it is for many Americans today..This is the problem!.. But I'll keep listening to speeches (and rhetoric) and try to figure out who to support in Nov.
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Edited by
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If the Republicans had a stronger candidate the election would probably be a "shoe-in." Many many people are upset and disappointed with Obama...But this is not a race between Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter...The variables are different. How many people will decide to "stick" with Obama even though they haven't been pleased with his first term? If they gain more confidence in Romney they may decide to "switch." But right now Romney isn't a "gung-ho alternative" for everyone...Some GOP voters have hated and despised Obama since day one and definitely want him "out" even if they're not exactly "in love" with Romney...Former Obama supporters can go either way. Some may grudingly vote for Obama and give him another chance. Some may decide not to vote at all. And others may vote for Romney with reservations...Hard to know what will happen quite yet. This is how I feel anyway...Who will win over the majority of Independent voters? I think it will come down to either who had the most money to spread information/misinformation or who isolates themself the LEAST from different voting demographics like the rich the poor the middle class the youth students senior citizens homosexuals women white males minorities ...etc....... each candidates OWN WORDS can often either loose or win over the votes of specific voter demographics and then it comes down to which demographic turns out in highest numbers in 2008 it was the high turnout of african americans and youths (first time voters and young college students) that won the election for Obama.... |
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If the Republicans had a stronger candidate the election would probably be a "shoe-in." Many many people are upset and disappointed with Obama...But this is not a race between Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter...The variables are different. How many people will decide to "stick" with Obama even though they haven't been pleased with his first term? If they gain more confidence in Romney they may decide to "switch." But right now Romney isn't a "gung-ho alternative" for everyone...Some GOP voters have hated and despised Obama since day one and definitely want him "out" even if they're not exactly "in love" with Romney...Former Obama supporters can go either way. Some may grudingly vote for Obama and give him another chance. Some may decide not to vote at all. And others may vote for Romney with reservations...Hard to know what will happen quite yet. This is how I feel anyway...Who will win over the majority of Independent voters? I think it will come down to either who had the most money to spread information/misinformation or who isolates themself the LEAST from different voting demographics like the rich the poor the middle class the youth students senior citizens homosexuals women white males minorities ...etc....... each candidates OWN WORDS can often either loose or win over the votes of specific voter demographics and then it comes down to which demographic turns out in highest numbers in 2008 it was the high turnout of african americans and youths (first time voters and young college students) that won the election for Obama.... |
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If the Republicans had a stronger candidate the election would probably be a "shoe-in." Many many people are upset and disappointed with Obama...But this is not a race between Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter...The variables are different. How many people will decide to "stick" with Obama even though they haven't been pleased with his first term? If they gain more confidence in Romney they may decide to "switch." But right now Romney isn't a "gung-ho alternative" for everyone...Some GOP voters have hated and despised Obama since day one and definitely want him "out" even if they're not exactly "in love" with Romney...Former Obama supporters can go either way. Some may grudingly vote for Obama and give him another chance. Some may decide not to vote at all. And others may vote for Romney with reservations...Hard to know what will happen quite yet. This is how I feel anyway...Who will win over the majority of Independent voters? I think it will come down to either who had the most money to spread information/misinformation or who isolates themself the LEAST from different voting demographics like the rich the poor the middle class the youth students senior citizens homosexuals women white males minorities ...etc....... each candidates OWN WORDS can often either loose or win over the votes of specific voter demographics and then it comes down to which demographic turns out in highest numbers in 2008 it was the high turnout of african americans and youths (first time voters and young college students) that won the election for Obama.... yes as strong as the anti obama claim that he has 'dissapointed' and 'lied is there is a strong anti romney claim out there too about how much he 'flip flops' on the issues ,,,it will be interesting |
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If the Republicans had a stronger candidate the election would probably be a "shoe-in." Many many people are upset and disappointed with Obama...But this is not a race between Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter...The variables are different. How many people will decide to "stick" with Obama even though they haven't been pleased with his first term? If they gain more confidence in Romney they may decide to "switch." But right now Romney isn't a "gung-ho alternative" for everyone...Some GOP voters have hated and despised Obama since day one and definitely want him "out" even if they're not exactly "in love" with Romney...Former Obama supporters can go either way. Some may grudingly vote for Obama and give him another chance. Some may decide not to vote at all. And others may vote for Romney with reservations...Hard to know what will happen quite yet. This is how I feel anyway...Who will win over the majority of Independent voters? I think it will come down to either who had the most money to spread information/misinformation or who isolates themself the LEAST from different voting demographics like the rich the poor the middle class the youth students senior citizens homosexuals women white males minorities ...etc....... each candidates OWN WORDS can often either loose or win over the votes of specific voter demographics and then it comes down to which demographic turns out in highest numbers in 2008 it was the high turnout of african americans and youths (first time voters and young college students) that won the election for Obama.... yes as strong as the anti obama claim that he has 'dissapointed' and 'lied is there is a strong anti romney claim out there too about how much he 'flip flops' on the issues ,,,it will be interesting |
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Honestly, if anyone did Romney favors at the RNC, then it was Ryan and Rice. Hate Ryan all you want but he is exactly what Romney needs if he has any hope of winning this election. I know Ryan is the equivalent to Pelosi in that Pelosi leans so far to the left while Ryan is the ultra staunch conservative. Rice presented herself as the stronest precense at the RNC. Her speech was pure gold and it even had liberal analysts on MSNBC loving it. Now. I am tired of hearing about how Romney is rich, he is this and that, and he doesn't understand the majority of American's problems. And you think Obama does? Obama has no idea what it is like for farmers to struggle. Neither does Romney. Obama doesn't work two jobs and barely can keep all his bills paid like a majority of American's do. Neither does Romney. So stop with that argument. You can blame Romney for being rich all you want. But that isn't what makes people not like Romney. Romney's problem is that he just can't sell himself to the public. Obama is a master at that. And that will probably be the difference in this election. I guarantee you that Obama will give one heck of speech next week at the DNC. And what will he say? Oh, I bet it will be exactly like what he said in 2008, and that is what irks me about him. He needs to quit with the great speeches, get off his lazy arse, and get things done. That's what he said he would do. He promised to get Republicans and Democrats to work together. Hell, he can't even get many in his own party to agree with him. So how on God's green Earth will it change in the next four years. And would Romeny be any better? I don't know (at this point) if he is, but I am leaning more towards giving him a shot at it. I really don't care if we have a Democrat or Republican in the White House. I just want more good paying jobs coming into our country than leaving. I personally know people who have Master's degrees (MBA's, Education, etc) who work retail cause they cannot find work at all. They have all this education and they can't find the work, and so they work two jobs to make ends meet. That is nonsense! Question is, do I vote to give Obama four more years to show me that he can deliver? Or do I vote for Romney and see what he can do? Honestly, Obama does not stand up against Congress.....he never has. He says he has, but the reality is that he backs down when the going gets tough. His Obamacare was pushed heavily this year cause it was an election year. Hell, he wants to look good so yeah...I see the strategy. But what else is he doing? What else can he do? Or will he do? I want to hear him speak next week. And, I want to hear what the DNC leaders will say as well. I honestly believe that if Obama had more of a backbone he would have achieved much more. Trust me. When he took office, I wanted to see that same guy who delivered the speeches that made me believe he could achieve so much. And yet, he simply hasn't. My vote is still undecided (even though I am leaning towards Romney now). Obama will have my full attention this coming week. Hell, the DNC will have my full attention. Ultimately, I just want whomever wins this election to hunker down and get our country back on track. the argument that Mitt is out of touch comes from his OWN statements,, his background is a rational 'excuse' for his condition,, otherwise he would just be pretty dumb so, his background ALONG With his statements is what causes me to believe him to be extremely out of touch with reality. As far as Obama, how many presidents have been 'farmers' and what has that to do with it. He grew up with FIRST hand exposure to struggle via a struggling single mom and struggling parents and a financial struggle throughout college. I believe OBAMA is more AWARE And IN TOUCH with what it is to actually STRUGGLE than Romney does or ever will. Who cares if he is out of touch. He has a HISTORY of creating SUCCESSFUL businesses, creating and saving millions and millions of jobs, helping with charaties, turning around struggling events and so on and so on. Who cares if he cant relate to someone as long as he can help them get a better life who cares if he can relate. More Obama talking points. please share some of this 'history'....of Romney creating and saving 'millions' of jobs? bain capitol TODAY has under 6000 employees, and mass. has a population of a little over 6mill with even a 15 percent unemployment that makes 900000 people out of work if he saved EVERY unemployed persons job and every bain employee, that still wouldnt quite be 1 million and its far less than likely that he saved anywhere near that many jobs for the state or for Bain, considering he helped push BAIN himself out..lol so where did he create these jobs again? and even if he created 'some' jobs somewhere,, by his own logic regarding healthcare reform The Massachusetts health care plan "dealt with 8 percent of our population," far less than the "100 percent of American people" affected by President Barack Obama’s health care law. even mitt doesnt think dealing with a STATE of 6 millionis the same as dealing with a COUNTRY,, Im sure dealing with a company of a few thousand is even less like running a country,,, The millions of jobs he created were through Bain Capital. Bain may have only a few employees but the companies they own, run or invest in and keep afloat have hundreds of thousands if not millions of employees. Here are only a few of the companies they own or run AMC Entertainment, Aspen Education Group, Brookstone, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, Clear Channel Communications, Domino's Pizza, DoubleClick, Dunkin' Donuts, D&M Holdings, Guitar Center, Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), Sealy, The Sports Authority, Staples, Toys "R" Us, Warner Music Group and The Weather Channel. |
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If the Republicans had a stronger candidate the election would probably be a "shoe-in." Many many people are upset and disappointed with Obama...But this is not a race between Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter...The variables are different. How many people will decide to "stick" with Obama even though they haven't been pleased with his first term? If they gain more confidence in Romney they may decide to "switch." But right now Romney isn't a "gung-ho alternative" for everyone...Some GOP voters have hated and despised Obama since day one and definitely want him "out" even if they're not exactly "in love" with Romney...Former Obama supporters can go either way. Some may grudingly vote for Obama and give him another chance. Some may decide not to vote at all. And others may vote for Romney with reservations...Hard to know what will happen quite yet. This is how I feel anyway...Who will win over the majority of Independent voters? The Republicans had this race locked up if they had a better candidate. 2010 showed us that. I still think Romney will win but it would have been an easier fight with someone else. |
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If the Republicans had a stronger candidate the election would probably be a "shoe-in." Many many people are upset and disappointed with Obama...But this is not a race between Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter...The variables are different. How many people will decide to "stick" with Obama even though they haven't been pleased with his first term? If they gain more confidence in Romney they may decide to "switch." But right now Romney isn't a "gung-ho alternative" for everyone...Some GOP voters have hated and despised Obama since day one and definitely want him "out" even if they're not exactly "in love" with Romney...Former Obama supporters can go either way. Some may grudingly vote for Obama and give him another chance. Some may decide not to vote at all. And others may vote for Romney with reservations...Hard to know what will happen quite yet. This is how I feel anyway...Who will win over the majority of Independent voters? I think it will come down to either who had the most money to spread information/misinformation or who isolates themself the LEAST from different voting demographics like the rich the poor the middle class the youth students senior citizens homosexuals women white males minorities ...etc....... each candidates OWN WORDS can often either loose or win over the votes of specific voter demographics and then it comes down to which demographic turns out in highest numbers in 2008 it was the high turnout of african americans and youths (first time voters and young college students) that won the election for Obama.... yes as strong as the anti obama claim that he has 'dissapointed' and 'lied is there is a strong anti romney claim out there too about how much he 'flip flops' on the issues ,,,it will be interesting the media spin is like the trailers,,, the debates are ALWAYS the main attraction and deciding factor for me,,,, because not only does it give us a chance to listen to their own words in response to different issues we can read their body language , look at their eyes, etc,, and just get a feel of how well they are able to HANDLE a leadership and strength position on a national/international stage,,,,, their biggest job, to me, (aside from keeping a check on congress) is representing america to the rest of the world,,,like an american spokesmodel in the global political pageant,,,if you will,,,lol |
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If the Republicans had a stronger candidate the election would probably be a "shoe-in." Many many people are upset and disappointed with Obama...But this is not a race between Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter...The variables are different. How many people will decide to "stick" with Obama even though they haven't been pleased with his first term? If they gain more confidence in Romney they may decide to "switch." But right now Romney isn't a "gung-ho alternative" for everyone...Some GOP voters have hated and despised Obama since day one and definitely want him "out" even if they're not exactly "in love" with Romney...Former Obama supporters can go either way. Some may grudingly vote for Obama and give him another chance. Some may decide not to vote at all. And others may vote for Romney with reservations...Hard to know what will happen quite yet. This is how I feel anyway...Who will win over the majority of Independent voters? The Republicans had this race locked up if they had a better candidate. 2010 showed us that. I still think Romney will win but it would have been an easier fight with someone else. |
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Honestly, if anyone did Romney favors at the RNC, then it was Ryan and Rice. Hate Ryan all you want but he is exactly what Romney needs if he has any hope of winning this election. I know Ryan is the equivalent to Pelosi in that Pelosi leans so far to the left while Ryan is the ultra staunch conservative. Rice presented herself as the stronest precense at the RNC. Her speech was pure gold and it even had liberal analysts on MSNBC loving it. Now. I am tired of hearing about how Romney is rich, he is this and that, and he doesn't understand the majority of American's problems. And you think Obama does? Obama has no idea what it is like for farmers to struggle. Neither does Romney. Obama doesn't work two jobs and barely can keep all his bills paid like a majority of American's do. Neither does Romney. So stop with that argument. You can blame Romney for being rich all you want. But that isn't what makes people not like Romney. Romney's problem is that he just can't sell himself to the public. Obama is a master at that. And that will probably be the difference in this election. I guarantee you that Obama will give one heck of speech next week at the DNC. And what will he say? Oh, I bet it will be exactly like what he said in 2008, and that is what irks me about him. He needs to quit with the great speeches, get off his lazy arse, and get things done. That's what he said he would do. He promised to get Republicans and Democrats to work together. Hell, he can't even get many in his own party to agree with him. So how on God's green Earth will it change in the next four years. And would Romeny be any better? I don't know (at this point) if he is, but I am leaning more towards giving him a shot at it. I really don't care if we have a Democrat or Republican in the White House. I just want more good paying jobs coming into our country than leaving. I personally know people who have Master's degrees (MBA's, Education, etc) who work retail cause they cannot find work at all. They have all this education and they can't find the work, and so they work two jobs to make ends meet. That is nonsense! Question is, do I vote to give Obama four more years to show me that he can deliver? Or do I vote for Romney and see what he can do? Honestly, Obama does not stand up against Congress.....he never has. He says he has, but the reality is that he backs down when the going gets tough. His Obamacare was pushed heavily this year cause it was an election year. Hell, he wants to look good so yeah...I see the strategy. But what else is he doing? What else can he do? Or will he do? I want to hear him speak next week. And, I want to hear what the DNC leaders will say as well. I honestly believe that if Obama had more of a backbone he would have achieved much more. Trust me. When he took office, I wanted to see that same guy who delivered the speeches that made me believe he could achieve so much. And yet, he simply hasn't. My vote is still undecided (even though I am leaning towards Romney now). Obama will have my full attention this coming week. Hell, the DNC will have my full attention. Ultimately, I just want whomever wins this election to hunker down and get our country back on track. the argument that Mitt is out of touch comes from his OWN statements,, his background is a rational 'excuse' for his condition,, otherwise he would just be pretty dumb so, his background ALONG With his statements is what causes me to believe him to be extremely out of touch with reality. As far as Obama, how many presidents have been 'farmers' and what has that to do with it. He grew up with FIRST hand exposure to struggle via a struggling single mom and struggling parents and a financial struggle throughout college. I believe OBAMA is more AWARE And IN TOUCH with what it is to actually STRUGGLE than Romney does or ever will. Who cares if he is out of touch. He has a HISTORY of creating SUCCESSFUL businesses, creating and saving millions and millions of jobs, helping with charaties, turning around struggling events and so on and so on. Who cares if he cant relate to someone as long as he can help them get a better life who cares if he can relate. More Obama talking points. please share some of this 'history'....of Romney creating and saving 'millions' of jobs? bain capitol TODAY has under 6000 employees, and mass. has a population of a little over 6mill with even a 15 percent unemployment that makes 900000 people out of work if he saved EVERY unemployed persons job and every bain employee, that still wouldnt quite be 1 million and its far less than likely that he saved anywhere near that many jobs for the state or for Bain, considering he helped push BAIN himself out..lol so where did he create these jobs again? and even if he created 'some' jobs somewhere,, by his own logic regarding healthcare reform The Massachusetts health care plan "dealt with 8 percent of our population," far less than the "100 percent of American people" affected by President Barack Obama’s health care law. even mitt doesnt think dealing with a STATE of 6 millionis the same as dealing with a COUNTRY,, Im sure dealing with a company of a few thousand is even less like running a country,,, The millions of jobs he created were through Bain Capital. Bain may have only a few employees but the companies they own, run or invest in and keep afloat have hundreds of thousands if not millions of employees. Here are only a few of the companies they own or run AMC Entertainment, Aspen Education Group, Brookstone, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, Clear Channel Communications, Domino's Pizza, DoubleClick, Dunkin' Donuts, D&M Holdings, Guitar Center, Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), Sealy, The Sports Authority, Staples, Toys "R" Us, Warner Music Group and The Weather Channel. If I invest in stock that makes me a profit, can I also claim to be creating the jobs in those companies? he worked in INVESTMENTS, they bought people out (cost jobs) to build bigger profit for other people,,,(including themself) that doesnt really matter to the average struggling american doesnt count as being some great job creator either,,, |
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GreenEyes48
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Sun 09/02/12 01:51 PM
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msharmony...I agree with you about the debates. It will be interesting to see the president "square-off" with Mitt Romney...Romney's come across in different ways. Hard to know how he will act with Obama..The debate between Paul Ryan and Joe Biden will be interesting too...I agree with you. Body language plays a role too...Romney seemed (and acted) a bit too "mushy" for me at the beginning of his convention speech. Normally I like to be around caring men. (Versus "macho" and insensitive men.) But Romney laid it on "thick" and he just seemed really odd to me...I think we need to be able to trust that our president and leaders will act "appropriately" in any given situation. (Especially when they visit foreign countries or deal with foreign dignataries etc.) You mentioned this in your post too...I guess Joe Biden is famous for his "gaffes." Paul Ryan got some criticism for "stretching the truth" a few times in his convention speech.
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msharmony
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Sun 09/02/12 02:54 PM
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msharmony...I agree with you about the debates. It will be interesting to see the president "square-off" with Mitt Romney...Romney's come across in different ways. Hard to know how he will act with Obama..The debate between Paul Ryan and Joe Biden will be interesting too...I agree with you. Body language plays a role too...Romney seemed (and acted) a bit too "mushy" for me at the beginning of his convention speech. Normally I like to be around caring men. (Versus "macho" and insensitive men.) But Romney laid it on "thick" and he just seemed really odd to me...I think we need to be able to trust that our president and leaders will act "appropriately" in any given situation. (Especially when they visit foreign countries or deal with foreign dignataries etc.) You mentioned this in your post too...I guess Joe Biden is famous for his "gaffes." Paul Ryan got some criticism for "stretching the truth" a few times in his convention speech. if it were between Ryan and Biden, Id have to choose Ryan but thank goodness they arent the presidential candidates, and the candidates we have seem healthy and sound enough for me not to be concerned about any reality where our VP would take over,,,lol honestly, I think thats what cost McCain alot of votes,, he didnt 'apppear' the picture of health so his VP choice ended up being pretty vital... Im expecting Obama to be more leaderlike in the presidential debates and I would be shocked if Ryan wasnt more leaderlike in the VP debates Biden speaks publicly about as well as Romney,, in my opinion cant have a leader with that much foot in the mouth disease,,lol |
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msharmony..I agree with you. The VP nominee can have an affect on the "top dog" and the race. Guess this is why some wanted Obama to dump Biden and bring in Hillary Clinton as VP...Sarah Palin definitely made John Mc Cain seem much "older."...The contrast between Romney and Ryan isn't quite as bad. But Ryan comes across with confidence and determination and "definite ideas."...Where Romney seems "blah" and "bland" and even "vague" at times. (Though he's had a few good speeches.)...Even though Biden can be "out there" and "off the wall" at times he does seem pretty youthful for his age. (And full of "life.") Don't you think? Maybe "spirited" is a good term or passionate...Romney seems a bit "stiff" and lacking in passion at times. He tries to be a "regular guy" but misses the mark at times...Good to see Obama smiling and "playing around" a little more out on the campaign trail. He seems more human. And he doesn't come across as "running scared."...I felt sorry for Romney when he had to give his speech at the GOP convention because he was under so much pressure. It doesn't look like the convention gave the GOP the "big bump" they were hoping for...Now it's Obama's turn this week with the DNC convention.
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GreenEyes48
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Mon 09/03/12 09:20 AM
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I think most people have "political leanings" even if we try to stay in the "middle" and look at both "sides.".. We all have critical issues that are important to us...I'd probably be more inclined to vote for Romney if he had a definite and "sure-fired plan" to create more jobs and help the middle class...Right now it all seems pretty "vague" to me. And this is why I haven't joined the "Romney bandwagon."
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