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A law or a crime should be about harming another person. IT IS CALLED COMMON LAW.
THERE MUST BE A VICTIM. If a law broken does not involve an actual victim, someone that you personally did harm to, then it is not a crime. UCC rules are just corporate rules. Jay walking. Pot smoking. Driving with no license. Driving without insurance. Driving with no seatbelt. Until someone is actually hurt by YOU breaking those UCC rules, they are not crimes. |
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guy who sells drugs = desperate ,criminal taxes arent 'stolen' money guy who avoids being 'robbed' by the government = freeloader, wanting the privileges of citizenship without being required to invest anything into its preservation politicians = no more (or less) 'virtuous' than any other citizen cops who drag someone over marijuana infraction= legal thugs people defending themself from such treatment, when not provoking the treatment themself = victim most drug dealers more virtuous than social workers ? impossible to prove or disprove (HUGE ASSumption,,) hippy lets others be free and voters dont,,,??? ,,,,,so the country would be better off if we all were just 'free' hippies doing what we want? ,,,not a logical aim,,,,as what people 'want' to do or have varies so much and impacts upon their families, environments, and communities,,,, ,,,,comparing voters to nazis? interesting,, most americans dont really have good 'table' manners, but would also not kill people for the aim of a more 'pure race',,,, ,,,anyway,, dont have the patience for much more I hope that guys life gets better, I will pray for him,,, Msharmony, beggin your parden, but you are endoctrinated. You do not understand the financial system or the UCC rules that they purport to be "laws." The point is that people don't want to take the responsibility for themselves or for doing what is right. Instead they expect the government to tell them how to live. An indoctrinated person is one who might say: "THEY OUGHT TO MAKE ANOTHER LAW..." who votes the people in office that makes these laws? YOU DO.. MSharmony is correct, you seem to think anarchy is the answer... So the Founding Fathers where anarchists? You ever read The Deceleration of Independence. It was a deceleration against tyranny. It was an overthrow of a government to establish a new one. "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government" |
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if by indoctrinated you mean I can use common sense, than yes the assessment that people want laws so they wont have to be responsible for themself is an oxymoron if they didnt want to have self responsibility, the best thing would be no LAWS because there would be no consequence to whatver they chose to do or not do,,, REALLY???  No consequences? Are you kidding? THERE ARE ALWAYS CONSEQUENCES FOR EVERYTHING YOU CHOSE TO DO OR NOT DO. It is a law of God. The law of Karma, anything you want to call it. The law of attraction, vibration. There are consequences for everything. It is the law of cause and effect. so what was the karma that befell the slaveowners, whose descendants are now benefitting? what was the karma that befalls the rapist who is never caught? what is the karma that befalls a serial killer who is never caught? why do we raise children or teach them anything if 'karma' can do it for us...? ,, Im sorry, that karmic consequence sure doesnt seem to do much to deter people,,,, First you need to understand the difference between COMMON LAW AND UCC Corporate rules that have NO victims. Rape is a crime. There is a victim. It is a crime with or without UCC rules. Murder is a crime. There are consequences, both legal and otherwise. If you don't believe in the Law of God, then how can you say that you have faith in God? |
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guy who sells drugs = desperate ,criminal taxes arent 'stolen' money guy who avoids being 'robbed' by the government = freeloader, wanting the privileges of citizenship without being required to invest anything into its preservation politicians = no more (or less) 'virtuous' than any other citizen cops who drag someone over marijuana infraction= legal thugs people defending themself from such treatment, when not provoking the treatment themself = victim most drug dealers more virtuous than social workers ? impossible to prove or disprove (HUGE ASSumption,,) hippy lets others be free and voters dont,,,??? ,,,,,so the country would be better off if we all were just 'free' hippies doing what we want? ,,,not a logical aim,,,,as what people 'want' to do or have varies so much and impacts upon their families, environments, and communities,,,, ,,,,comparing voters to nazis? interesting,, most americans dont really have good 'table' manners, but would also not kill people for the aim of a more 'pure race',,,, ,,,anyway,, dont have the patience for much more I hope that guys life gets better, I will pray for him,,, Msharmony, beggin your parden, but you are endoctrinated. You do not understand the financial system or the UCC rules that they purport to be "laws." The point is that people don't want to take the responsibility for themselves or for doing what is right. Instead they expect the government to tell them how to live. An indoctrinated person is one who might say: "THEY OUGHT TO MAKE ANOTHER LAW..." who votes the people in office that makes these laws? YOU DO.. MSharmony is correct, you seem to think anarchy is the answer... No, I don't. COMMON LAW IS THE ANSWER. Not more UCC rules. Do you know the difference? |
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guy who sells drugs = desperate ,criminal taxes arent 'stolen' money guy who avoids being 'robbed' by the government = freeloader, wanting the privileges of citizenship without being required to invest anything into its preservation politicians = no more (or less) 'virtuous' than any other citizen cops who drag someone over marijuana infraction= legal thugs people defending themself from such treatment, when not provoking the treatment themself = victim most drug dealers more virtuous than social workers ? impossible to prove or disprove (HUGE ASSumption,,) hippy lets others be free and voters dont,,,??? ,,,,,so the country would be better off if we all were just 'free' hippies doing what we want? ,,,not a logical aim,,,,as what people 'want' to do or have varies so much and impacts upon their families, environments, and communities,,,, ,,,,comparing voters to nazis? interesting,, most americans dont really have good 'table' manners, but would also not kill people for the aim of a more 'pure race',,,, ,,,anyway,, dont have the patience for much more I hope that guys life gets better, I will pray for him,,, Msharmony, beggin your parden, but you are endoctrinated. You do not understand the financial system or the UCC rules that they purport to be "laws." The point is that people don't want to take the responsibility for themselves or for doing what is right. Instead they expect the government to tell them how to live. An indoctrinated person is one who might say: "THEY OUGHT TO MAKE ANOTHER LAW..." who votes the people in office that makes these laws? YOU DO.. MSharmony is correct, you seem to think anarchy is the answer... So the Founding Fathers where anarchists? You ever read The Deceleration of Independence. It was a deceleration against tyranny. It was an overthrow of a government to establish a new one. "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government" if you think thats what you need to do, then do it... I don't think so... there have been worse times than this in history, even in our history, and nobody needed to revolt then... time will heal this, or time will tell if there needs to be a revolt... but right now, things are not really that bad... |
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A law or a crime should be about harming another person. IT IS CALLED COMMON LAW. THERE MUST BE A VICTIM. If a law broken does not involve an actual victim, someone that you personally did harm to, then it is not a crime. UCC rules are just corporate rules. Jay walking. Pot smoking. Driving with no license. Driving without insurance. Driving with no seatbelt. Until someone is actually hurt by YOU breaking those UCC rules, they are not crimes. ok, so laws are reactionary and rules are precautions and the idea is that we only be a reactionary society and take no precautions...? interesting |
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I am probably the least "religious" person on mingle but I see that I actually have more real faith in the law of the Universe (karma or God) that those who claim to be believers in God.
So just as the video says in the O.P. People worship THE STATE. |
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if by indoctrinated you mean I can use common sense, than yes the assessment that people want laws so they wont have to be responsible for themself is an oxymoron if they didnt want to have self responsibility, the best thing would be no LAWS because there would be no consequence to whatver they chose to do or not do,,, REALLY??? No consequences? Are you kidding? THERE ARE ALWAYS CONSEQUENCES FOR EVERYTHING YOU CHOSE TO DO OR NOT DO. It is a law of God. The law of Karma, anything you want to call it. The law of attraction, vibration. There are consequences for everything. It is the law of cause and effect. so what was the karma that befell the slaveowners, whose descendants are now benefitting? what was the karma that befalls the rapist who is never caught? what is the karma that befalls a serial killer who is never caught? why do we raise children or teach them anything if 'karma' can do it for us...? ,, Im sorry, that karmic consequence sure doesnt seem to do much to deter people,,,, First you need to understand the difference between COMMON LAW AND UCC Corporate rules that have NO victims. Rape is a crime. There is a victim. It is a crime with or without UCC rules. Murder is a crime. There are consequences, both legal and otherwise. If you don't believe in the Law of God, then how can you say that you have faith in God? not sure what the Law of God has to do with anything here respecting mom and dad has no 'victim' but yet it is Gods law having no Gods before God has no 'victime' but yet it is also Gods law thou shalt not 'covet' also has no victim, but it is Gods law because God has a bigger view of danger that humans do not, and not coveting is a PRECAUTION to avoid what could lead to stealing, or harming another,,, that God had no laws concerning guns and vehicles,,may be put upon the fact that guns and vehicles werent in EXISTENCE yet |
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A law or a crime should be about harming another person. IT IS CALLED COMMON LAW. THERE MUST BE A VICTIM. If a law broken does not involve an actual victim, someone that you personally did harm to, then it is not a crime. UCC rules are just corporate rules. Jay walking. Pot smoking. Driving with no license. Driving without insurance. Driving with no seatbelt. Until someone is actually hurt by YOU breaking those UCC rules, they are not crimes. ok, so laws are reactionary and rules are precautions and the idea is that we only be a reactionary society and take no precautions...? interesting If you want to take "precautions" then perhaps you better make driving illegal altogether. Let the government provide transportation. Make cars illegal. If you want to take "precautions" you could just stay in bed in the morning and never venture out into the dangerous world. |
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if by indoctrinated you mean I can use common sense, than yes the assessment that people want laws so they wont have to be responsible for themself is an oxymoron if they didnt want to have self responsibility, the best thing would be no LAWS because there would be no consequence to whatver they chose to do or not do,,, REALLY??? No consequences? Are you kidding? THERE ARE ALWAYS CONSEQUENCES FOR EVERYTHING YOU CHOSE TO DO OR NOT DO. It is a law of God. The law of Karma, anything you want to call it. The law of attraction, vibration. There are consequences for everything. It is the law of cause and effect. so what was the karma that befell the slaveowners, whose descendants are now benefitting? what was the karma that befalls the rapist who is never caught? what is the karma that befalls a serial killer who is never caught? why do we raise children or teach them anything if 'karma' can do it for us...? ,, Im sorry, that karmic consequence sure doesnt seem to do much to deter people,,,, First you need to understand the difference between COMMON LAW AND UCC Corporate rules that have NO victims. Rape is a crime. There is a victim. It is a crime with or without UCC rules. Murder is a crime. There are consequences, both legal and otherwise. If you don't believe in the Law of God, then how can you say that you have faith in God? not sure what the Law of God has to do with anything here respecting mom and dad has no 'victim' but yet it is Gods law having no Gods before God has no 'victime' but yet it is also Gods law thou shalt not 'covet' also has no victim, but it is Gods law because God has a bigger view of danger that humans do not, and not coveting is a PRECAUTION to avoid what could lead to stealing, or harming another,,, that God had no laws concerning guns and vehicles,,may be put upon the fact that guns and vehicles werent in EXISTENCE yet The ten commandments are not "God's Law." They are commandments. (For those who believe in free will, they are suggestions.) I am talking about LAWS of the universe, and laws of cause and effect. Laws like "time" and "gravity" and cause and effect. Laws of vibration. Not some religious ideas of what you think "gods law is" as it is written by men. |
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I am probably the least "religious" person on mingle but I see that I actually have more real faith in the law of the Universe (karma or God) that those who claim to be believers in God. So just as the video says in the O.P. People worship THE STATE. there is a false ideal some have, regardless of religious conviction, that God is there to serve them, or Karma that everything makes itself right NATURALLY without man ever lifting a finger that was not the message of God, thats a lie the devil tells,,, the lesson stays longer, the gift is worth more, if we put our OWN effort into it, instead of JUST leaving it to God AFTER we mess it up,,,, We were never intended to not put any effort into it ourself, just because we have FAITH in God.... |
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A law or a crime should be about harming another person. IT IS CALLED COMMON LAW. THERE MUST BE A VICTIM. If a law broken does not involve an actual victim, someone that you personally did harm to, then it is not a crime. UCC rules are just corporate rules. Jay walking. Pot smoking. Driving with no license. Driving without insurance. Driving with no seatbelt. Until someone is actually hurt by YOU breaking those UCC rules, they are not crimes. ok, so laws are reactionary and rules are precautions and the idea is that we only be a reactionary society and take no precautions...? interesting If you want to take "precautions" then perhaps you better make driving illegal altogether. Let the government provide transportation. Make cars illegal. If you want to take "precautions" you could just stay in bed in the morning and never venture out into the dangerous world. because that would lack COMMON SENSE, and be strictly reactionary and vendictive its like the kid that says, If i cant have candy because its unhealthy , why let me eat ANYTHING at all but fruits and vegetables,,,,? there is a common sense/middle ground that is decided upon based upon logical assessment of food available to eat, some is healthy and some is unhealthy of the CANDY available, very little of it has any healthy advantage and most have several unhealthy advantages, so it makes sense to restrict candy, but not restrict ALL FOOD likewise,,, of the cars on the road there is a small percentage having accidents of the cars on the road with drivers DRINKING there is a much larger percentage that have accidents the latter assessment of actual numbers and incidence, makes it logical to take some precaution when it comes to DRINKING DRIVERS,,,, |
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if by indoctrinated you mean I can use common sense, than yes the assessment that people want laws so they wont have to be responsible for themself is an oxymoron if they didnt want to have self responsibility, the best thing would be no LAWS because there would be no consequence to whatver they chose to do or not do,,, REALLY??? No consequences? Are you kidding? THERE ARE ALWAYS CONSEQUENCES FOR EVERYTHING YOU CHOSE TO DO OR NOT DO. It is a law of God. The law of Karma, anything you want to call it. The law of attraction, vibration. There are consequences for everything. It is the law of cause and effect. so what was the karma that befell the slaveowners, whose descendants are now benefitting? what was the karma that befalls the rapist who is never caught? what is the karma that befalls a serial killer who is never caught? why do we raise children or teach them anything if 'karma' can do it for us...? ,, Im sorry, that karmic consequence sure doesnt seem to do much to deter people,,,, First you need to understand the difference between COMMON LAW AND UCC Corporate rules that have NO victims. Rape is a crime. There is a victim. It is a crime with or without UCC rules. Murder is a crime. There are consequences, both legal and otherwise. If you don't believe in the Law of God, then how can you say that you have faith in God? not sure what the Law of God has to do with anything here respecting mom and dad has no 'victim' but yet it is Gods law having no Gods before God has no 'victime' but yet it is also Gods law thou shalt not 'covet' also has no victim, but it is Gods law because God has a bigger view of danger that humans do not, and not coveting is a PRECAUTION to avoid what could lead to stealing, or harming another,,, that God had no laws concerning guns and vehicles,,may be put upon the fact that guns and vehicles werent in EXISTENCE yet The ten commandments are not "God's Law." They are commandments. (For those who believe in free will, they are suggestions.) I am talking about LAWS of the universe, and laws of cause and effect. Laws like "time" and "gravity" and cause and effect. Laws of vibration. Not some religious ideas of what you think "gods law is" as it is written by men. the question was about whether I Believe in the 'law of God' I guess that depends upon what source you use to define what that law is,,, the 'commandments' to me ,,are Gods Laws,,,, |
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guy who sells drugs = desperate ,criminal taxes arent 'stolen' money guy who avoids being 'robbed' by the government = freeloader, wanting the privileges of citizenship without being required to invest anything into its preservation politicians = no more (or less) 'virtuous' than any other citizen cops who drag someone over marijuana infraction= legal thugs people defending themself from such treatment, when not provoking the treatment themself = victim most drug dealers more virtuous than social workers ? impossible to prove or disprove (HUGE ASSumption,,) hippy lets others be free and voters dont,,,??? ,,,,,so the country would be better off if we all were just 'free' hippies doing what we want? ,,,not a logical aim,,,,as what people 'want' to do or have varies so much and impacts upon their families, environments, and communities,,,, ,,,,comparing voters to nazis? interesting,, most americans dont really have good 'table' manners, but would also not kill people for the aim of a more 'pure race',,,, ,,,anyway,, dont have the patience for much more I hope that guys life gets better, I will pray for him,,, Msharmony, beggin your parden, but you are endoctrinated. You do not understand the financial system or the UCC rules that they purport to be "laws." The point is that people don't want to take the responsibility for themselves or for doing what is right. Instead they expect the government to tell them how to live. An indoctrinated person is one who might say: "THEY OUGHT TO MAKE ANOTHER LAW..." who votes the people in office that makes these laws? YOU DO.. MSharmony is correct, you seem to think anarchy is the answer... So the Founding Fathers where anarchists? You ever read The Deceleration of Independence. It was a deceleration against tyranny. It was an overthrow of a government to establish a new one. "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government" if you think thats what you need to do, then do it... I don't think so... there have been worse times than this in history, even in our history, and nobody needed to revolt then... time will heal this, or time will tell if there needs to be a revolt... but right now, things are not really that bad... We will see. But when people have nothing to lose they will fight for a better life. The French did, The Russians did. |
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guy who sells drugs = desperate ,criminal taxes arent 'stolen' money guy who avoids being 'robbed' by the government = freeloader, wanting the privileges of citizenship without being required to invest anything into its preservation politicians = no more (or less) 'virtuous' than any other citizen cops who drag someone over marijuana infraction= legal thugs people defending themself from such treatment, when not provoking the treatment themself = victim most drug dealers more virtuous than social workers ? impossible to prove or disprove (HUGE ASSumption,,) hippy lets others be free and voters dont,,,??? ,,,,,so the country would be better off if we all were just 'free' hippies doing what we want? ,,,not a logical aim,,,,as what people 'want' to do or have varies so much and impacts upon their families, environments, and communities,,,, ,,,,comparing voters to nazis? interesting,, most americans dont really have good 'table' manners, but would also not kill people for the aim of a more 'pure race',,,, ,,,anyway,, dont have the patience for much more I hope that guys life gets better, I will pray for him,,, Msharmony, beggin your parden, but you are endoctrinated. You do not understand the financial system or the UCC rules that they purport to be "laws." The point is that people don't want to take the responsibility for themselves or for doing what is right. Instead they expect the government to tell them how to live. An indoctrinated person is one who might say: "THEY OUGHT TO MAKE ANOTHER LAW..." who votes the people in office that makes these laws? YOU DO.. MSharmony is correct, you seem to think anarchy is the answer... So the Founding Fathers where anarchists? You ever read The Deceleration of Independence. It was a deceleration against tyranny. It was an overthrow of a government to establish a new one. "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government" if you think thats what you need to do, then do it... I don't think so... there have been worse times than this in history, even in our history, and nobody needed to revolt then... time will heal this, or time will tell if there needs to be a revolt... but right now, things are not really that bad... We will see. But when people have nothing to lose they will fight for a better life. The French did, The Russians did. |
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guy who sells drugs = desperate ,criminal taxes arent 'stolen' money guy who avoids being 'robbed' by the government = freeloader, wanting the privileges of citizenship without being required to invest anything into its preservation politicians = no more (or less) 'virtuous' than any other citizen cops who drag someone over marijuana infraction= legal thugs people defending themself from such treatment, when not provoking the treatment themself = victim most drug dealers more virtuous than social workers ? impossible to prove or disprove (HUGE ASSumption,,) hippy lets others be free and voters dont,,,??? ,,,,,so the country would be better off if we all were just 'free' hippies doing what we want? ,,,not a logical aim,,,,as what people 'want' to do or have varies so much and impacts upon their families, environments, and communities,,,, ,,,,comparing voters to nazis? interesting,, most americans dont really have good 'table' manners, but would also not kill people for the aim of a more 'pure race',,,, ,,,anyway,, dont have the patience for much more I hope that guys life gets better, I will pray for him,,, Msharmony, beggin your parden, but you are endoctrinated. You do not understand the financial system or the UCC rules that they purport to be "laws." The point is that people don't want to take the responsibility for themselves or for doing what is right. Instead they expect the government to tell them how to live. An indoctrinated person is one who might say: "THEY OUGHT TO MAKE ANOTHER LAW..." who votes the people in office that makes these laws? YOU DO.. MSharmony is correct, you seem to think anarchy is the answer... So the Founding Fathers where anarchists? You ever read The Deceleration of Independence. It was a deceleration against tyranny. It was an overthrow of a government to establish a new one. "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government" if you think thats what you need to do, then do it... I don't think so... there have been worse times than this in history, even in our history, and nobody needed to revolt then... time will heal this, or time will tell if there needs to be a revolt... but right now, things are not really that bad... We will see. But when people have nothing to lose they will fight for a better life. The French did, The Russians did. alot of people did... but it is up to you to decide when it is time, and the time is not right for me... |
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I want to protest, but crap I am even scared to do that. Some cop will say you are trespassing or disturbing the peace. Welcome to the police state.
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If you are, you won't like to hear this video Message to the voting cattle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxIAuY9gq_Q Larken Rose is great!  Thanks for sharing. 
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I want to protest, but crap I am even scared to do that. Some cop will say you are trespassing or disturbing the peace. Welcome to the police state. So apply for a permit. Most places have laws in place that give you the right to protest. You are just to lazy to go through with it. |
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I want to protest, but crap I am even scared to do that. Some cop will say you are trespassing or disturbing the peace. Welcome to the police state. So apply for a permit. Most places have laws in place that give you the right to protest. You are just to lazy to go through with it. Its a specific corporation who would arrest me on site. Own private police force. |
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