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Topic: I don't believe the official story of 9/11
mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sun 08/26/12 12:28 PM
The government's new weapons are not so "super secret." They have been practicing with them for years. Just because they don't blast this information all over the Major Media does not mean it is "super secret." You have to know that there are many many super secret things hidden from us by the government, otherwise why would they have everything so "classified?" They have top secret and many levels above top secret, and levels of top secret above the head of the President. So NO, Bush himself knows very little. He basically does as he is told and is bribed with ways to make billions of dollars in the countries he invades and bombs. How long have we been using microwave ovens? How long before that was microwave technology invented? Christ, you know if you have any common sense at all, that any new technology the government gets their hands on, the first thing they do is figure out a way to make it into a weapon. Making fun of the governments' "super secret" weapons technology as if it does not exist is ludicrous and extremely naive. Are you claiming it does not exist? The government denied for years and years the very existence of area 51, even when people who worked there were trying to sue them in court. Wake up people. Damn. i'll use your logic here... THERE IS NO PROOF of these "super-secret" weapons.... You would be wrong about that. again, i'll use your logic... no, i'm not wrong... if there is no proof, they can't be real... it's that simple

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 08/26/12 12:30 PM
The government's new weapons are not so "super secret." They have been practicing with them for years. Just because they don't blast this information all over the Major Media does not mean it is "super secret." You have to know that there are many many super secret things hidden from us by the government, otherwise why would they have everything so "classified?" They have top secret and many levels above top secret, and levels of top secret above the head of the President. So NO, Bush himself knows very little. He basically does as he is told and is bribed with ways to make billions of dollars in the countries he invades and bombs. How long have we been using microwave ovens? How long before that was microwave technology invented? Christ, you know if you have any common sense at all, that any new technology the government gets their hands on, the first thing they do is figure out a way to make it into a weapon. Making fun of the governments' "super secret" weapons technology as if it does not exist is ludicrous and extremely naive. Are you claiming it does not exist? The government denied for years and years the very existence of area 51, even when people who worked there were trying to sue them in court. Wake up people. Damn. i'll use your logic here... THERE IS NO PROOF of these "super-secret" weapons.... You would be wrong about that. again, i'll use your logic... no, i'm not wrong... if there is no proof, they can't be real... it's that simple Then I'll use your logic.... Prove it.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sun 08/26/12 12:53 PM
The government's new weapons are not so "super secret." They have been practicing with them for years. Just because they don't blast this information all over the Major Media does not mean it is "super secret." You have to know that there are many many super secret things hidden from us by the government, otherwise why would they have everything so "classified?" They have top secret and many levels above top secret, and levels of top secret above the head of the President. So NO, Bush himself knows very little. He basically does as he is told and is bribed with ways to make billions of dollars in the countries he invades and bombs. How long have we been using microwave ovens? How long before that was microwave technology invented? Christ, you know if you have any common sense at all, that any new technology the government gets their hands on, the first thing they do is figure out a way to make it into a weapon. Making fun of the governments' "super secret" weapons technology as if it does not exist is ludicrous and extremely naive. Are you claiming it does not exist? The government denied for years and years the very existence of area 51, even when people who worked there were trying to sue them in court. Wake up people. Damn. i'll use your logic here... THERE IS NO PROOF of these "super-secret" weapons.... You would be wrong about that. again, i'll use your logic... no, i'm not wrong... if there is no proof, they can't be real... it's that simple Then I'll use your logic.... Prove it. yep, thats right...

HotRodDeluxe Joined Sun 05/06/12 Posts: 2743	Sun 08/26/12 01:21 PM Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sun 08/26/12 01:37 PM
Flights 77 and 11 did not crash into the towers and no one can prove they did. And you wonder why people question your sanity? http://youtu.be/NpUKM0MFNaM Yep, that looks like a plane-all 44 angles of different footage. I can't see any missliles; energy balls; alien spacecraft, or HAARP Sonic weaponry, just an Airbus flying straight into a building. Flight 11 crashed into the North Tower and Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon and no-one can prove they didn't. Those goalposts must be getting heavy by now.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 08/26/12 06:05 PM
It probably was a plane. But no one can prove it was flight 11.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 08/26/12 06:36 PM
Missing Building Contents Most Contents of the Towers Were Turned to Dust Accounts of Ground Zero agree on the thoroughness of the destruction. What remained was primarily the structural steel, other metal pieces, paper, and dust. Not only were the non-metallic parts of the building -- such as concrete and glass -- pulverized, so were the building contents, as firefighter Joe Casaliggi recalls (mpeg). At the end of the first week, a fireman from Brooklyn recalled bluntly his frustration and awe at how little was left. He had just completed a 24-hour shift. You have 10-story buildings that leave more debris than these two 100-story towers, Where the f___ is everything? A serious week-long search and we've found 200 [bodies] in a pile of 5,000? What's going on? Where is everyone? Why aren't we finding more bodies? Cause it's all vaporized -- turned to dust. We're breathing people in that dust. The levelings may have destroyed evidence of crimes beyond just plane impacts and building collapses. There were vaults of gold bullion in the basement of 4 World Trade Center, but the amount of gold recovered seems to be only a small fraction of the amount known to be stored there. Was the gold stolen? Being a dense, malleable metal, gold should not have been broken up by whatever destroyed the towers. Gold is also one of the most inert elements, and is extremely unlikely to participate in chemical reactions. Even if it were possible to pulverize and disperse the gold, its storage in the basement of WTC 4 assured that it escaped the violent forces that pulverized the towers.

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Sun 08/26/12 08:41 PM
It probably was a plane. But no one can prove it was flight 11. Well it wasn't flight 101001001010011111001

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Sun 08/26/12 09:08 PM
It probably was a plane. But no one can prove it was flight 11. Well it wasn't flight 101001001010011111001 Or was it? That is a suspicious looking number!

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Mon 08/27/12 04:36 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 08/27/12 04:40 PM
I have never heard of, or seen any video of people boarding flight 11. According to American Airlines records, it did not depart on 9-11. I would like to actually find someone who was there, who actually took a family member to that airport, and watched that plane take off. BTS - Bureau of Traffic Statistics showing Flight 11 never departed from Boston Logan international Airport on 9/11/2001. There were others that were recorded as having never departed either. Is this standard practice? Or are they just bad record keepers?

flathunder Joined Sun 08/28/11 Posts: 8	Mon 08/27/12 04:56 PM
Sadly, The American public has bee asllep for many years. Too many people are comfortable with the system the govenment has designed for them. Anyone with half brain would know that the chances of (18) men coming into this country, using our money,support,and our airplanes to do what happened unabated is ludicris to say the least. Your post is true and accurate. I don't think the truth would ever come out until enough time passes that the conspirators have passed on , anf the few with knowledge talk. Even then, they would have to convince the public. Have a nice day

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Mon 08/27/12 04:58 PM Edited by metalwing on Mon 08/27/12 05:07 PM
I have never heard of, or seen any video of people boarding flight 11. According to American Airlines records, it did not depart on 9-11. I would like to actually find someone who was there, who actually took a family member to that airport, and watched that plane take off. BTS - Bureau of Traffic Statistics showing Flight 11 never departed from Boston Logan international Airport on 9/11/2001. There were others that were recorded as having never departed either. Is this standard practice? Or are they just bad record keepers? They are just bad record keepers. The "board" you keep referencing is not an official record. It's just a convenience posting. They are rarely accurate.

HotRodDeluxe Joined Sun 05/06/12 Posts: 2743	Mon 08/27/12 05:03 PM
I have never heard of, or seen any video of people boarding flight 11. According to American Airlines records, it did not depart on 9-11. I would like to actually find someone who was there, who actually took a family member to that airport, and watched that plane take off. BTS - Bureau of Traffic Statistics showing Flight 11 never departed from Boston Logan international Airport on 9/11/2001. There were others that were recorded as having never departed either. Is this standard practice? Or are they just bad record keepers? So, you haven't seen the records and make a claim that the plane never departed (without proving it), then offer the possibility that this may not be anomalous while considering it as evidence to support an as yet, unknown hypothesis?

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Mon 08/27/12 05:15 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 08/27/12 05:17 PM
I have never heard of, or seen any video of people boarding flight 11. According to American Airlines records, it did not depart on 9-11. I would like to actually find someone who was there, who actually took a family member to that airport, and watched that plane take off. BTS - Bureau of Traffic Statistics showing Flight 11 never departed from Boston Logan international Airport on 9/11/2001. There were others that were recorded as having never departed either. Is this standard practice? Or are they just bad record keepers? So, you haven't seen the records and make a claim that the plane never departed (without proving it), then offer the possibility that this may not be anomalous while considering it as evidence to support an as yet, unknown hypothesis? My claim is that so far,there has been no evidence that the plane was ever boarded,(by anyone) or departed. It may have been boarded, it may have departed... but I have seen no evidence to that assumption.

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Tue 08/28/12 12:29 PM
Sadly, The American public has bee asllep for many years. Too many people are comfortable with the system the govenment has designed for them. Anyone with half brain would know that the chances of (18) men coming into this country, using our money,support,and our airplanes to do what happened unabated is ludicris to say the least. Your post is true and accurate. I don't think the truth would ever come out until enough time passes that the conspirators have passed on , anf the few with knowledge talk. Even then, they would have to convince the public. Have a nice day Your so right...I will say it again. If the Government came out long enough and hard enough using all its propaganda tools, including its internet shrills and claimed Santa Clause existed, a large part of the population would believe it.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Tue 08/28/12 12:52 PM
Sadly, The American public has bee asllep for many years. Too many people are comfortable with the system the govenment has designed for them. Anyone with half brain would know that the chances of (18) men coming into this country, using our money,support,and our airplanes to do what happened unabated is ludicris to say the least. Your post is true and accurate. I don't think the truth would ever come out until enough time passes that the conspirators have passed on , anf the few with knowledge talk. Even then, they would have to convince the public. Have a nice day Your so right...I will say it again. If the Government came out long enough and hard enough using all its propaganda tools, including its internet shrills and claimed Santa Clause existed, a large part of the population would believe it. and there are those that jump on every little coincidence and then start making up fantasies in order to make up for a lack of knowledge of how things can happen.

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Tue 08/28/12 02:14 PM
Sadly, The American public has bee asllep for many years. Too many people are comfortable with the system the govenment has designed for them. Anyone with half brain would know that the chances of (18) men coming into this country, using our money,support,and our airplanes to do what happened unabated is ludicris to say the least. Your post is true and accurate. I don't think the truth would ever come out until enough time passes that the conspirators have passed on , anf the few with knowledge talk. Even then, they would have to convince the public. Have a nice day Your so right...I will say it again. If the Government came out long enough and hard enough using all its propaganda tools, including its internet shrills and claimed Santa Clause existed, a large part of the population would believe it. and there are those that jump on every little coincidence and then start making up fantasies in order to make up for a lack of knowledge of how things can happen. Dude............ the 911 commission rejects its own report...... The 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission. Farmer, Dean of Rutger Universities' School of Law and former Attorney General of New Jersey, was responsible for drafting the original flawed 9/11 report. Does Farmer have cooperation and agreement from other members of the Commission? Yes. Did they say Bush ordered 9/11? No. Do they say that the 9/11 Commission was lied to by the FBI, CIA, Whitehouse and NORAD? Yes. Is there full documentary proof of this? Yes. Farmer states...“at some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened... I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The [Norad air defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. This is not spin.” http://www.salem-news.com/articles/september112009/911_truth_9-11-09.php

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 08/28/12 04:34 PM
Sadly, The American public has bee asllep for many years. Too many people are comfortable with the system the govenment has designed for them. Anyone with half brain would know that the chances of (18) men coming into this country, using our money,support,and our airplanes to do what happened unabated is ludicris to say the least. Your post is true and accurate. I don't think the truth would ever come out until enough time passes that the conspirators have passed on , anf the few with knowledge talk. Even then, they would have to convince the public. Have a nice day Your so right...I will say it again. If the Government came out long enough and hard enough using all its propaganda tools, including its internet shrills and claimed Santa Clause existed, a large part of the population would believe it. and there are those that jump on every little coincidence and then start making up fantasies in order to make up for a lack of knowledge of how things can happen. um... yeh, its called "thinking." As apposed to accepting programming without questioning it.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 08/28/12 04:35 PM
There are no "coincidences." Calling everything a "coincidence" is basically ignoring clues. Ignoring clues leads to shoddy investigation.

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Tue 08/28/12 04:38 PM
There are no "coincidences." Calling everything a "coincidence" is basically ignoring clues. Ignoring clues leads to shoddy investigation. Ignoring facts leads to much shoddier investigation.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 08/28/12 06:58 PM
There are no "coincidences." Calling everything a "coincidence" is basically ignoring clues. Ignoring clues leads to shoddy investigation. Ignoring facts leads to much shoddier investigation. True, but a lot of people can't recognize a fact when they see one. They claim that something is a fact and it may not be a fact at all. In that respect, a "fact" becomes an opinion that someone just calls a fact. And since everything is a point of view that depends on perception and agreement, you could say that everything is an opinion.