Except braking the law...by "white crime"....so many examples,. that $ can buy!

there was a time when laws were enforced by PEACE OFFICERS. it seems those days are gone. now LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS are enforcing laws that don't keep peace. used to be anyone could travel anywhere in the continental united states without being stopped and asked to identify themselves, now stopping citizens and asking them to submit to questioning and checking id's without probable cause is common. requiring permits, and fining citizens to create revenue for the city, county, or state takes priority over street patrol. laws used to be in place to protect you from me and me from you. now some laws are in place to protect people from themselves

No judgement from me. The title came from the video, which we just found today and watched. It made me wonder what your opinion of this is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DiathA-_Es

Have you seen it too? What do you think? Watched it. Makes me think that most decisions should be thought through and individuals need to take more responsibility for their choices but even this can be risky for some people who want to believe what they want to believe be damn who has to cover the cost of their choices.

How much of it is True? False?

Sadly there is truth in many of theses stories. But if we take a cernal of truth and apply it as gosphel for every similiar situation then what started out a truth gets bastardized to a lie.

Were these really based on facts? Some are. Some not.

Or were all exaggerations? I thend to think by the sum of the total most are missing the point of the regualtion in the first place.

Do you agree with the laws?

Some I actually do. For obvious saftey reasons I think children selling anything without immediate and constant adult supervion should be illegal. Depending what they are selling and how long even that is limited.

Selling anything consumable should be restricted to certain reasonable guidelines. If you have never seen the tradgic results of food born illness and the catestrophic medical debts that generally fall on the tax payers back you would feel much differently.

I feel the absolute power of the government to control the use of the land is extreem. But until you see your property values collasp because someone puts a pig farm up wind of you and or build in such a way you are flooded, and various other problems one property owner can wreck on another you would feel differently.

What has happen is too often knee jerk legislation is written at the expense of all or those least able to defend themself.

Do you think it's unnecessary? Some good laws definitely need fine tuneing and a lot of out of date or not up to date laws need abolished or re-written.

No judgement from me. The title came from the video, which we just found today and watched. It made me wonder what your opinion of this is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DiathA-_Es

Have you seen it too? What do you think?

How much of it is True? False?

Were these really based on facts? Or were all exaggerations?

Do you agree with the laws? Do you think it's unnecessary?

Everything is illegal!!!... So put em up and spread em

"Everything Is Illegal In America"

so that's what happened to the s & i thread...

Say what you like....ya'll ain't wrong.

Then again...I am fortunate as hell to be in this jacked up country. We ain't perfect....far from it. I ain't heard of a perfect country yet.

I love America. This country let's me be the man I wanna be without asking for permission. When I get in my car and move 2,000+ miles to be with my Mingle b*tch at the end of the month, ain't no one will try to stop me. As long as I do follow the basics...don't drive stupid....I can do whatever the hell I want.

(I live outside of city limits so, alot of the petty crap that city dwellers put up with...don't apply to those of us who don't want city councils or neighborhood organizations telling us wha we can or cannot do . That is city people's deciscions to do what others say)

We got no building codes or leash laws. We cross the road anywhere we want. I can legally pee in my yard. I dig it and our cops and deputees are really good guys and gals.

The one dumb law we got....livestock has the right of way on all roads except for highways and interstates....yield to the cows.

I hit a cow in a '32 Frazier Nash convertable roadster on a blind S curve just down the road........cow had the right of way so insurance wouldn't touch it. (the cow was just bruised and scared...did major daage to that car though)

It's Fox News...Based off that, it is over exaggerated.

I can't stand their idea of news journalism, it is as screwed up as watching Alice in Wonderland with Lucy. Did you know that they have been proven to of lied in live broadcast on multiple occasions? Or that they have a history of misleading the public by contorting the truth, it is dirty journalism.

Don't believe **** you hear on the news, especially coming from Fox.

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Selling goods that are consumed by people and are prone to rotting are regulated. Only those establishments that have the readiness to keep things fresh and unrotted can get a permit to sell chicken, lobster, etc.

-- I agree with this law. Much more food poisoning cases would come up to the courts. Huge lawsuits could be generated. If people died of poisoned (even if unintentionally poisoned) food, all hell would break loose. Givign the nice name "entrepeneur" to the seller of perishable food items is not a cause for vindication house-to-house selling.

-- in case of the kids selling lemonade: A cop is required by law and his oath to investigate and report crime, (and to use his discretion in prioritizing his activities.) Selling perishables while not licenced, is a crime. It would be ardorous to make all the exceptions that could be made. There is the issue in law, how detailed the law wants to discriminate the incriminables from the non-incriminables. It all boils down to saving money in drawing up laws that are easier to use than harder.

-- most cops will overlook a couple of kids selling lemonaide, but if their day is slow, they will bust the kids. They have to prioritize, and if there is no crime at that time more important to solve or make an arrest, then the pigs will go after the kids, they are mandated to do so -- both the kids and the cops.

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"One guy was thrown out of his own property even after he won the lawsuit against the government."

Okay, not enough information given. He won a lawsuit against the government (there are at least three levels of gov - which you mean?) (and you don't say if he was thrown out for the same reason that generated a suit -- if it was the same reason, what was the suit for? Without that I can neither agree with your consternation nor disagree. I am not going to watch the video.)

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The tree in the yard -- could it have been of the type that houses the asian horned beetle, or the like? Or could it have been planted over a water line or sewage line? Was the tree too close to his house, or to the neighbour's house? or was this an area of severe water shortages, and tree presented a fire hazard, or a danger to wildlife and flora, because it would suck up too much environmental water?

Without details, again, you are not making it clear what we must decide.

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What I see is that the show was aimed at viewers who have little critical ability, who have only a rudimentary sense of reality, and who are not familiar with the extent and breadth of the complexity of today's living in society, and which complex system must be regulated, in order for all of us to get along nicely.

It's Fox News...Based off that, it is over exaggerated.

I can't stand their idea of news journalism, it is as screwed up as watching Alice in Wonderland with Lucy. Did you know that they have been proven to of lied in live broadcast on multiple occasions? Or that they have a history of misleading the public by contorting the truth, it is dirty journalism.

Don't believe **** you hear on the news, especially coming from Fox.